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znModeratorCrary is married to an old girlfriend of mine. We broke up in 83 and she met him later that year. They’ve been married 38 years. She and I are still distant, occasional contact friends.
znModeratorThis is the machine/drill all of the young Rams DL put in extra work on in their spare time/after practice/basically whenever they can FWIW. https://t.co/1Mw6ujNNlN
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) June 3, 2023
znModeratorSimply can’t coach some of stuff @Vol_Football’s Byron Young does playing on the move. Very few guys—college or pro—can hit a reactive tight spin move like @byron_97 does in this rep. Snaps like this are why @seniorbowl is excited about Young’s upside.#TheDraftStartsInMOBILE™️ pic.twitter.com/e3GwqYEt9p
— Jim Nagy (@JimNagy_SB) July 21, 2022
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Tennessee EDGE Byron Young opens the OT up with an inside move to set up an outside spin for the QB hit – very controlled feet, good balance, impressive rep pic.twitter.com/3SGZmtv6he
— Nick Falato (@nickfalato) April 13, 2023
June 3, 2023 at 4:38 pm in reply to: the 2023 OL thread (w/ definitive article posted on 5/30) #144289
znModeratorthe various oline combos the rams fielded last year, by game, red text = guys who are now gone. pic.twitter.com/9ZuzzRZFGk
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) June 3, 2023
June 3, 2023 at 3:28 pm in reply to: the 2023 OL thread (w/ definitive article posted on 5/30) #144288
znModeratorMike LaFleur revealed that the Rams don’t have a set starting OL unit yet and that the ‘best five are going to play’ in 2023. https://t.co/hLIzBYbwMn
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) June 2, 2023
znModeratordead money: 2017-2023
since 2017, mcvay's first year as rams hc, no team has used up more cap space on dead money than the rams.
yet in that time, only 5 tms have won more reg season gms than the rams, on 2 tms have won more playoff gms, and only 1 tm has been to more sb. pic.twitter.com/8L3RFmseRc
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) June 3, 2023
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roberto clemente@rclemente2121
interestingly, the rams and eagles rank #1 and #2 in most cap space eaten up by dead money since 2017, which seems like a bad thing, yet both teams have been to the super bowl twice in that time.then you have a team like the chargers – no team has burned less cap space on dead money than the bolts since 2017, but what do they have to show for it? 3 playoff wins?
znModeratorHealth will be big but @nickbaumgardner has Rams WR Puka Nacua on his list "…great quickness but stays under control…adjusts to poor throws…maintains his feet near the sideline…finds soft spots in zones…" https://t.co/FG9yXeLXjp
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) June 2, 2023
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[link above]
from: Day 3 NFL Draft sleepers who can make an immediate impact as rookies
Puka Nacua, WR, Los Angeles Rams
(Round 5, No. 177)He has to stay healthy, which has been easier said than done for Nacua. He had to deal with a lot of injury-related frustration in college (foot, ankle, hamstring) and never started more than eight games at either Washington or BYU. Nacua also got injured at the Senior Bowl.
When he’s healthy, though, he’s one of the best in this class at tracking the ball. He’s a very confident athlete who isn’t afraid to compete in the air — and he has the frame (6-1, 210) to do so. Nacua runs routes with great quickness but stays under control. He also adjusts to poor throws and maintains his feet near the sideline, and he finds soft spots in zones with consistency.
He could be a QB-friendly receiver for Matthew Stafford and the Rams. Receivers like Nacua who understand how to get open and aren’t afraid to play through contact tend to do just fine in the league.
znModeratorKyren Williams is getting an extended look in OTAs this spring, sharing reps with Cam Akers at running back https://t.co/qpc9eNPZBj
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) June 2, 2023
June 2, 2023 at 10:04 pm in reply to: the 2023 OL thread (w/ definitive article posted on 5/30) #144281
znModeratorCome for the Alaric Jackson pass protection.
Stay for the Cooper Kupp touchdown. pic.twitter.com/d5wIeQaKP7
— Blaine Grisak 💭 (@bgrisakTST) June 2, 2023
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Don't have to worry about Jackson being overpowered. Handles Vita Vea coming around the edge. pic.twitter.com/dt9dQeS6s7
— Blaine Grisak 💭 (@bgrisakTST) June 2, 2023
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Jackson does a great job of taking his guy wide and forcing them to go the longest route to the QB. Does that to Joe Tryon here. Allows Stafford time for the deep ball. pic.twitter.com/fXof0YgDJq
— Blaine Grisak 💭 (@bgrisakTST) June 2, 2023
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Alaric Jackson = 🧱🧱🧱
Has his man on 🔒on this play at LT. pic.twitter.com/9sKZAQmsZ7
— Blaine Grisak 💭 (@bgrisakTST) June 2, 2023
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Jackson remains extremely solid in pass pro. This is a longer developing route. Gives Stafford time to find Kupp. Exactly what you want from your LT. pic.twitter.com/pgd7oNd5he
— Blaine Grisak 💭 (@bgrisakTST) June 2, 2023
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znModeratorUsing a 1st on running backs now is frowned upon, but I think they have more value overall than a receiver. The downside, obviously, is they have shorter careers.
Just taking off and running (so to speak) with that point. I agree with the sentiment that a 1st round RB isn’t worth it really. But then this discussion reminds me of people who have said you can wait for a back in the lower rounds (after the 3rd). (You did not say that, this is not addressed to you personally BT, just me thinking out loud.) I’ve done the numbers on that before…and, your chances of getting a starting RB after rounds 2 and 3 go way down.
Yet having said that, the Rams have 3 backs in camp that could pan out, and they’re all either low picks or a UDFA. This is 3 guys after Akers of course, who as we know was a 2nd rounder. They are Evans (round 6 23), Wms (round 5 22), and T.Evans (UDFA 23). I don’t think it’s a stretch to think one of them will come through.
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znModeratorThe Rams considered trading up for 5 different offensive players before taking Steve Avila in the 2023 NFL draft. https://t.co/5OLD6BQkNw
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) June 2, 2023
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Before announcing Avila’s name, The Athletic’s Jourdan Rodrigue mentioned that the Rams discussed possibly trading into the first round for five offensive players on their draft board.
Here is the excerpt on what the Rams were discussing during the draft before taking Avila in the second round:
Similar to 2021, skill-position players tempted some on staff during the draft — the Rams discussed trading up into the first round for five different players, all on offense. A series of first-round maneuvers from other teams excluded the Rams, who ultimately stayed at No. 36. Avila was the Rams’ top prospect when they reset their board after the first round in preparation for Day 2.
znModeratorChase Blackburn says he’s gotten positive reviews from other special teams coaches about the Rams’ rookie specialists https://t.co/75wNO7i88m
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) June 2, 2023
June 1, 2023 at 9:49 pm in reply to: the 2023 OL thread (w/ definitive article posted on 5/30) #144269
znModeratorBlaine Grisak @bgrisakTSTReally hoping to see Alaric Jackson as the left tackle on the Rams offensive line this season. In Week 6, 8, and 9, Jackson had the 9th best pass-block grade via PFF among tackles.
znModeratorRams ST coordinator Chase Blackburn mentioned in his press conference this week that he and asst. ST coach Jeremy Springer had gone to around 44 pro days in the spring. That wasn’t just for specialists! You can read more here from a few weeks ago: https://t.co/JJnur8fghd
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) June 1, 2023
znModeratorDespite a down year in 2022, Aaron Donald was still ranked as the best interior defender in the NFL https://t.co/d5kwLWI3dF
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) June 1, 2023
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The Top-10 interior defenders in the NFL, per @PFF_Gordon pic.twitter.com/jvsBUx8H0B
— PFF (@PFF) May 31, 2023
znModeratorRams DC Raheem Morris helps save drowning child, credits AED training.
Incredible, life saving reaction by Morris. https://t.co/wJ1aP9um3C
— Lindsey Thiry (@LindseyThiry) May 31, 2023
znModeratorWhen Aiden Cicchetti was interviewed he denied he even had sex. When shown the video of him sexually assaulting the girl and people laughing while she begged him no, all of a sudden he and his attorney mom says it was consensual.
They laughed while she was being raped. pic.twitter.com/UhK5j3uns9
— AskAubry 🦝 (@ask_aubry) May 31, 2023
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams
Rams OC Mike LaFleur on rookie WR Puka Nacua: “He’s a good-sized kid, he’s got a good frame to him. He catches the ball really effortlessly, he can stay grounded through the catch. and so he’s doing a good job with it. Particularly moving him around quite a bit…… not babying him at all with the motions and the alignments and stuff like that. So he’s doing a good job.”
LaFleur said you can tell by looking into young players’ eyes when they’re in the huddle who’s “swimming” and who isn’t. Nacua has a calm demeanor, fitting in nicely.
Rams DC Raheem Morris praised CB Derion Kendrick for the urgency Kendrick is bringing as well as his effort and playmaking on and off the ball during OTAs.
“What I want to see from Derion Kendrick is exactly what he’s giving me,” Morris said.
znModeratorHe really did not need to tell me. He was male. pic.twitter.com/WE4oTUt2Fr
— AskAubry 🦝 (@ask_aubry) May 30, 2023
znModeratorAaron Donald or Chris Jones
Who is the best interior defender in the NFL?https://t.co/HfINqb1blX
— PFF (@PFF) May 30, 2023
znModeratorDerion Kendrick steps into his 2nd year with an opportunity to start at Cornerback. Kendrick had some ups and downs as a rookie but played plenty of reps that he can use to step up in year 2.
Do you expect Kendrick to start this season? pic.twitter.com/NIw1AchVlA
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) May 30, 2023
May 30, 2023 at 11:33 pm in reply to: the 2023 OL thread (w/ definitive article posted on 5/30) #144259
znModeratorRams OL working through new combinations in OTAs, hoping to leave 2022 behindone.”
Jourdan Rodrigue
Whatever could go wrong, did go wrong. A wave of injuries crushed their starters, most backups, and even some third- and fourth-string players in rapid succession. They featured 12 different starting combinations in their first 13 games and were starting from scratch their teaching of a complex language in that position group every week — with players at most positions who had not even been with the team in training camp. According to Football Outsiders, the Rams had 71 “adjusted games lost” to injury along the offensive line alone, the most since the statistic was developed in 2001 (the next closest were the 2020 Eagles, with 57.1 AGL).
Quarterback Matthew Stafford took 63 hits in nine games, the most a quarterback has been hit on a Sean McVay-led team, before also suffering a season-ending spinal cord contusion. For fans, the historically awful offensive line angst throughout 2022 even came with a little gut kick at the very end of the year: A player they definitely could have selected the in 2021 NFL Draft, center Creed Humphrey, anchored the Chiefs in the Super Bowl as one of the NFL’s best players at his position.
Everyone is trying to move on.
“No two teams are the same, and what happened last year stays in last year,” right tackle Rob Havenstein said earlier this month. “I’m not gonna harp on that too much. Whatever happened, happened. Can’t change it. Don’t want to change it, it is what it is.”
Yet a team can’t just visualize a reset, and hope it happens on the field. That team has to physically make it happen.
McVay fired previous offensive line coach Kevin Carberry and hired former player and Aaron Kromer disciple Ryan Wendell to take over the group, with Kromer’s son, Zak, assisting him. Former longtime left tackle and captain Andrew Whitworth has been a consistent presence in the building this spring, though no formal coaching or consulting role has been announced by the team.
In 2022, the Rams drafted guard Logan Bruss at No. 104, their top pick that year. But Bruss tore his ACL and his MCL that preseason, and so his potential is still unknown (although he’s cleared for practice and the Rams are cautiously onboarding him into the mix).
Re-investing in their offensive line was going to take much more than a lone late third-round draft pick, anyway.
This spring, amid a wave of cost-cutting and one-sided roster-rebuild moves, the Rams quietly extended guard/center Coleman Shelton on a two-year deal worth up to $4.75 million, pending incentives. They also reduced center Brian Allen’s contract by about $3 million via a restructure, after he battled injuries through much of 2022.
They drafted TCU starting guard (previously a center) Steve Avila at No. 36 and doubled up with fifth-rounder Warren McClendon, a two-year starter at Georgia.
Similar to 2021, skill-position players tempted some on staff during the draft — the Rams discussed trading up into the first round for five different players, all on offense. A series of first-round maneuvers from other teams excluded the Rams, who ultimately stayed at No. 36. Avila was the Rams’ top prospect when they reset their board after the first round in preparation for Day 2.
Avila is expected to start for the Rams right away, but much of that will be up to him.
As spring workouts unfold, it has become clear that the Rams will rotate many different players along the offensive line between the first, second and third teams. Where last year’s lone position battle was right guard, competition will happen this year at left tackle, left guard, center and right guard.
Possible starting combinations (note, media has only viewed one day of OTAs): From left to right, Alaric Jackson or Joe Noteboom; Avila or Noteboom or Jackson; Shelton or Allen; Tremayne Anchrum or Bruss or Shelton; Havenstein.
It’s interesting that the Rams’ starting group will potentially feature so many players with position flexibility. If 2022 was a worst-case injury scenario, multiple “flex” players could help with any “normal” injury scenarios that arise.
Another notable characteristic of this group is the size of its players (in OTAs especially, it’s OK to drop the often-skewed roster numbers and go with the eye test). Shelton isn’t a giant center, but he’s bigger than Allen. Jackson is a massive presence at either guard or tackle, with long arms. Avila is built like a prototypical body-moving guard, and even Anchrum (who entered the NFL as a tackle/guard combination player) is developing more like a stout guard rather than a tackle, though he can play either position.
Having both Shelton and Allen, who when playing center will do so on separate fields (between first and second/third teams), might be wasteful of a roster spot when the season begins — but for now, it’s useful. Both players are entrenched in the language of the offensive line and help “call” the offense. If a former starter is able to do that for the second and third teams, all of the developing players can better learn on the fly with someone next to them correcting and advising them, versus simply applying what they got in the meeting room to the field.
Noteboom doesn’t appear to be fully participating in OTAs so far, and McVay said they would continue to be cautious with his return from a 2022 Achilles tear. The Athletic previously reported that Noteboom should be cleared for training camp, but that the team will still onboard him slowly.
Jackson, who was cleared earlier this spring from the blood clots that ended his 2022 season, bluntly remarked in January that he wants to pick up where he left off at left tackle. He impressed at left guard last season when former starter David Edwards entered the concussion protocol and then slid over to left tackle as Noteboom’s replacement.
“I love playing left side, honestly,” Jackson said. “Tackle is my thing, for the most part. I understand that they paid Joe, so I get that whole part. But whatever I can do for the team, I’ll do for the team.”
Stafford seemed to appreciate that tenacity from Jackson during the first week of OTAs.
“Yeah, I think he’s a competitive guy. I think it comes out in his attitude probably when you guys talk to him, but also when he plays,” Stafford said. “Typical nasty offensive lineman and it’s fun to be around. He’s definitely a competitive guy that wants to get out there and play physical. It’s up to all those guys to go earn their spots like it is everybody on our team. As much competition as we can possibly have at all the positions is a good thing for us.”
Player to watch: McClendon — he didn’t allow a single sack in his final two seasons at Georgia. He also has become fast friends with Avila, which is important for the long-term future of the position group if the two players can set an early foundation.
“I feel like we just have similar personalities,” said Avila, who initially met McClendon at the Senior Bowl. “Usually there are some guys who are stuck up, in a way. I mean, he went to Georgia (laughs). … But he’s not like that. I’m glad that I have a teammate like that. He’s a cool guy (and) we’re going through this together!”
Between the draft and their coaching/consulting reset, the Rams are clearly hoping they have recalibrated the trajectory of an offensive line that in 2022 was swirling the drain.
Will it be enough?
Well, it’s May.
Linemen aren’t run blocking or having to truly protect the quarterback from any type of contact right now. For the Rams, these early days of OTAs are about evaluating different combinations of linemen, to see who sticks where. For many players and even coaches, this time of year is also about learning how to practice in the first place — and about resetting standards with new players and veterans.
This group may already look bigger, and some may be higher-round draft picks than many of the players who came before them. In the very limited time on the field so far, their overall energy is high. But Havenstein, who in this young group is now the grizzled, salty veteran entering his ninth season, knows not to lean too much into hope and projections in May.
“I think everyone came back ready to work,” Havenstein said. “Ready to get after it. … Guys who were here rehabbing, it’s been showing. Guys who went home, it’s been showing too. I’m very pleased with where everyone is now. Now (it’s) building some rapport with everyone.
“Like every NFL year, there are no slated starters anywhere (on the line). … We will find our best five guys to go out there and get it done.”
znModeratorThe Rams got a punter with a powerful leg when they selected Ethan Evans out of Division II Wingate this year https://t.co/5a98ekww7m
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) May 29, 2023
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OKAY, FOR THIS DRILL…NO WAIT HALF A SEC, #1 IS DOING HIS “EVEL KNIEVEL ON AN IMAGINARY BIKE” ACT AGAIN….
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znModeratorEthan Schmidt, the right-wing activist who went viral for destroying Pride merchandise in Target, has been active on gay dating apps for several years. pic.twitter.com/y2gTSngDy3
— Travis Akers (@travisakers) May 28, 2023
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You know that Ethan Schmidt guy who is attacking Target LGBTQ+ merch?
Guess he spent a lot of time on Grindr in Arizona and few people are saying they recognize him from umm face to face meetings.
Free yourself, you'll be so much happier and healthier. pic.twitter.com/0jsbRT5CTI
— AskAubry 🦝 (@ask_aubry) May 28, 2023
znModeratorA top Republican chair and MAGA official in Georgia has come out as a flat-earther, suggesting the notion that Earth is round is a left-wing conspiracy. “Every store, you buy a globe. There’s globes everywhere. Every movie, every TV show, news media. Why?”https://t.co/XzYQhWyrAY
— No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen (@NoLieWithBTC) May 28, 2023
znModeratorfrom https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2023/5/27/23739681/rams-undrafted-free-agents-rashad-torrence
.The Draft Network’s Justin Melo says that safety Rashad Torrence II out of Florida has a good chance to make the Rams final roster. Here’s what Melo had to say about the Rams undrafted free agents and Torrence in particular,
“Former Florida safety Rashad Torrence II is the standout among the group. Torrence could play himself into a significant year-one role…Torrence was a versatile playmaker at Florida, lining up at several different positions. He especially thrived when playing as a deep safety. Seeing the offensive action develop from a bird’s-eye view allowed Torrence to come downhill and make a bunch of tackles in the box. Football IQ and play recognition led to three interceptions for Torrence. He also proved capable of covering tight ends in man-coverage scenarios…In Raheem Morris’ defense, Torrence best projects to play near the line of scrimmage due to his limited athletic profile. It’s a role Torrence can carve a successful career out of. Write off Torrence at your own peril…The Rams’ depth chart is completely barren of proven talent at the safety position. It’s headed for an equal-opportunity summer with a may-the-best-man-win approach. Torrence possesses an opportunity to start for the Rams this season
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from https://www.nfl.com/prospects/rashad-torrence-ii/3200544f-5269-4955-846e-142194cb85e8
AnalysisBy Lance ZierleinOverviewFree safety with adequate athleticism but a lack of top-end speed and explosiveness on tape. Torrence understands the game and has a safety’s feel for leverage and caution when needed. He’s generally around the action and in position, but he needs to become a much more consistent wrap-up tackler. He can be opportunistic but is unlikely to create ball production at a high level as a pro due to his lack of instincts and burst. Torrence’s athletic testing at the NFL Scouting Combine could force him to compete for a roster spot as an undrafted player.Strengths- Plays with good eye balance from split safety.
- Looks to jar ball loose from pass-catchers.
- Fluid lateral movement in coverage underneath.
- Operates with smart angles to ball as a high safety.
- Runs the alley with appropriate pursuit leverage.
- Searches the scrum looking for running back leakage.
Weaknesses- Fails to gain ground quickly from an upright backpedal.
- Average reactive quickness and change of direction.
- Unable to find second gear for deep ball recovery.
- Below-average burst to close on the ball.
- Allowed too many yards after contact as run defender.
- Needs improvement closing out and running through the ball-carrier.
znModeratorMatthew Stafford is in favor of the new emergency QB rule, which allows teams to carry a 3rd QB on game days without taking up a roster spot.
He thinks guys will be more honest about injuries, knowing there will be a 3rd QB available https://t.co/dhO0WY6CXP
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) May 26, 2023
znModeratorOnly two St.Louis Rams left 🐏 pic.twitter.com/eOGizE8Hyt
— HoldenCantor (@HoldenCantor) May 26, 2023
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