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znModeratorBrooklynRam74
Mel Kiper tonight on ESPN Draft Recap just singled out Brennan Jackson as a great pick in the 5th Round. Said he’s a great pass-rusher and had him ranked 2 rounds lower, 3rd Round.
znModeratorHeard the grass is looking real nice in sofi… maybe we just keep it this time around? pic.twitter.com/tkydIg38H5
— Cooper Kupp (@CooperKupp) April 29, 2024
znModerator.@TampaBayTre drops his post-Draft grades on @NFLTotalAccess 👀
Did your team do well in the Draft? 🤔 pic.twitter.com/HwvFOg7a4i
— NFL Network (@nflnetwork) April 29, 2024
znModeratorMichigan DB Josh Wallace Michigan defensive back Josh Wallace competed throughout his college football career. But he joined the Michigan Wolverines in his final season, putting an exclamation point on his NFL prospects. He is a high character guy who has solid numbers and always seems to get his hands in there to knock the pass away. He didn’t have the level of interceptions that some scouts wanted to see, but his ability to break up passes is a coach pleaser nevertheless. He stands 5-foot-11 and weighs 185 pounds. He will need to add about 10 pounds of muscle armor to raise his durablity in the NFL, but he has potential.
znModeratorNew one: DB Cam Lampkin, Washington StateznModeratoryou’re saying 6-7 hits. that’s a 60-70% hit rate. as a rams fan sure i’ll take that. it’s just astronomical the chances of that happening.
Maybe up to 6 or 7 but yeah that would be very rare if it happened.
znModeratorNot that they will stay in their base formation, but what is their base formation?
ROLB……ILB/nickel-DB……ILB…….LOLB
……RDE or 3-TECH……NT…….LDEGoing from left (or ROLB) to right, starting with the LBs:
Young
?Rozeboom?/Lake
Jones
VerseThen it gets tricky?
Turner (if 3 -TECH), Fiske (if 3-TECH or DE)
Brown
Johnson? Fiske? Hoecht? Goodlow (UDFA)? Olajiga (UDFA)?Last year the RDE was Jonah Williams but he signed with the Vikes.
I have a feeling it will be
Turner (3-Tech)
Brown (NT)
Fiske (LDE)That btw does not look great. It’s too young. The defense might be generally effective in 2024 but I see them ranking between 18th and 12th.
znModeratorSo I think this is a great pick by Atlanta.
Agree. It’s a Jordan Love, Brett Favre situation. First year of a new regime with time to rebuild, so they have some breathing space to make an “invest in the deep future” type pick like that,
znModeratorfrom https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2024/4/29/24144751/rams-draft-beaux-limmer-value-espn
ESPN’s Matt Miller has to grades hundreds of prospects in the draft every year, if not sometimes tipping the scales close to 1,000 names, so it’s notable that he was especially stunned that the Los Angeles Rams were able to draft offensive lineman Beaux Limmer in the sixth round. On Monday, Miller posted his best values and biggest reaches in a thread on Twitter and named Limmer alongside receiver Brenden Rice and quarterback Michael Pratt.
znModeratorramsman34
The D front will be very situation-multiple. The more Shula can mix up the fronts, personnel, stunt/blitz looks, the more issues it creates for opposing offensive game plans and protections.
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodriguethe Rams look at athletic test scores. Measurements. Medicals. Football IQ/EQ and leadership. All star events. All of it matters. *How* data is sorted and weighed, by position, is the key factor working in confluence with the most important thing – the tape, assessed.Louis Riddick@LRiddickESPNTeam building and talent collection are two different things. They don’t remotely resemble one another.znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueMiami safety Kamren Kinchens is Dane Brugler’s No. 79 overall prospect. Per Brugler, Kinchens has great spatial/positional understanding especially playing from depth/two high – something the Rams prioritize over more average speed testing.znModeratorSeth Walder@SethWalderThe Rams’ trade-up for Braden Fiske was the most expensive Day 2 overpay of at least the last six drafts, according to ESPN’s draft pick valuations. Rams traded 52, 155 and a 2025 2nd to Carolina for 39..Cornell@gqscholarJust last year, Steeler and others alike said the Rams overpaid for Dotson 🙂znModeratorBrugler rated the Falcons draft as the worst, and he seems to share the consensus opinion that drafting Penix was a mind-bogglingly dumb pick.
How did the Daily Bugler rank the Rams draft?
znModeratorznModeratorznModeratorwell if you’re looking at just hits and not the quality of hits
No not doing that either, really. I said starter or significant contributor, which is quality. Either way quality is what I am talking about–when I discuss drafts, it is always what I talk about.
And yeah Nacua is a big find, but then I also said there is just not going to be that many Nacua’s either in Rams drafts or in NFL drafts generally.
But what I mean is that good starters and significant contributors from 2024 will outnumber those from 2023. Hitting on 5 is 50%. 50% drafts are rare. If it remains 5 from 2023, then that’s 36% (appx.) which is still good, and if you factor in getting Avila, Turner, and Nacua, then that’s a superb 36%. Anyway I wasn’t downplaying the 2023 draft, it was clearly a good one. I just think it will be more than 5 from 2024. It could be 6 or 7. That is, if Whittington does what I think he will, which is become a valuable top special teamer active on several STs units (which I count as a significant contributor).
To give you a sense by what I mean by hits, here’s my take on the 2022 draft.
Hits are blue.
Busts or we haven’t seen enough yet to judge, black.
Big questions to answer/haven’t played consistently well enough to earn a starting role yet, red.Round 3, Pick 104: Logan Bruss, OG, Wisconsin
Round 4, Pick 142: Decobie Durant, CB, South Carolina State
Round 5, Pick 164: Kyren Williams, RB, Notre Dame
Round 6, Pick 211: Quentin Lake, S, UCLA
Round 6, Pick 212: Derion Kendrick, CB, Georgia
Round 7, Pick 235: Daniel Hardy, LB, Montana State
Round 7, Pick 253: Russ Yeast, S, Kansas State
Round 7, Pick 261: AJ Arcuri, OT, Michigan StateznModeratorMore Corum.
For the forum.
To cure boredom.
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znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueThe Rams do not extend RBs so I think fans (and the team itself) could look at this as a six-year plan and not at 2024 in a vacuum. At some point you’re gonna have to put something into the position. You may as well spend a 3rd on a fit and be done with the capital there.znModeratorznModeratorRound 7
No. 254 (compensatory): KT Leveston, G, Kansas State
Dane Brugler’s analysis
Leveston needs to introduce more technical control and finesse to his execution, but he has the functional movements and power in his lower half and hands that the NFL requires inside at guard. He projects as an NFL reserve who should continue to see more snaps as he gets comfortable on the interior.
znModeratorfrom https://theathletic.com/5426661/2024/04/27/los-angeles-rams-2024-draft-picks-grades-scouting-reports/
No. 217 (compensatory): Beaux Limmer, C, Arkansas
Dane Brugler’s analysis
Limmer must continue to fine-tune his leverage points and play with better overall control, but he has the functional athleticism and finishing demeanor to continue developing. He projects as an immediate backup (center and guard) with starting potential at center, ideally suited for a wide-zone scheme (similar to Jake Brendel).
znModeratorRound 3
No. 83: Blake Corum, RB, Michigan
Dane Brugler’s analysis
Corum is smaller than ideal for his run style, but he makes quick, urgent decisions with the low center of gravity and burst to bounce runs or maneuver through congestion. His determination to maximize each carry will translate well to an NFL offense, although his effectiveness on third downs will determine his upside.
znModeratorNo. 19: Jared Verse, edge, Florida State
Dane Brugler’s analysis
When he channels his relentless energy, Verse is as disruptive as anyone in this class, because of his explosive get-off, power through his frame and NFL-quality hand use. His physical traits and competitive football temperament give him a high floor as an NFL starter (reminiscent of eight-year NFL veteran Dante Fowler).
znModeratorzn wrote: This draft may even be better than last year’s.
that’s a tall order.
I should have been more clear.
I think this draft will provide more “hits,” ie. starters and top contributors.
No one is going to surpass or equal Nacua’s rookie season.
But I think that in the end when you count the hit percentage, the 2024 draft will provide more players.
znModeratorKamren Kinchens has a shit ton of potential. One of the better safeties to ever come out of the U.
We called him our steal of the draft. Heard @LRiddickESPN say he’s a future pro-bowler 👀 pic.twitter.com/DGWbCaL4yn
— Rams Bros. (@RamsBrothers) April 28, 2024
znModeratorThey have a good back in Kyren Williams, who they got in the fifth round. They could have waited to take a back.”
That’s Prisco. And I strongly disagree. If you look at past drafts, the percentage of backs taken after round 3 who are in the same tier as KW is very, very small. Your odds of getting a good, load-carrying back after round 3 are slim. Rams lucked out with Kyren (though they did trade up for him which suggests they had some idea who and what he was). Still, by far the largest percentage of load-carrying, top caliber backs are taken in rounds 3 and up.
Honestly, what Prisco said is like declaring that the Rams should not have traded so much for Stafford because the Rams showed in 99 that you can get a qb from the Arena League.
znModeratorfrom https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2024/4/28/24143690/rams-2024-draft-class-grades-mel-kiper-pff
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ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. gave LA a B+ and called first-rounder Jared Verse a “10-sacks-per-season guy,” despite being a “difficult evaluation” for the draft guru.</p>
“L.A. got excellent rookie seasons from Byron Young and Kobie Turner in 2023, and GM Les Snead has started putting together his plan for life without Aaron Donald, who retired this offseason.
Speaking of, Snead traded up in Round 2 for a potential starter at defensive tackle in Braden Fiske (39), getting Carolina’s pick but surrendering Nos. 52 and 155 along with an extremely valuable 2025 second-rounder. Fiske had 11.5 sacks when lined up as DT over the past two seasons, which were the second most in the FBS. He isn’t going to be Donald — one of the greatest defensive linemen in NFL history — but Fiske can wreak some havoc. Still, I have to downgrade it a little bit because of that 2025 pick.”
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Trevor Sikkema from Pro Football Focus also gave LA’s draft class a B+. Like Kiper, Sikkema praised Verse and considered him to be “arguably the best power rusher in the class,” being a firm believer in his potential. The PFF analyst also appeared somewhat bothered by the somewhat lofty compensation sent to the Panthers for the opportunity to land Fiske.
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Pete Prisco from CBS Sports said Snead “had another good draft” and gave the GM an A for his efforts. Prisco named Brennan Jackson as the Rams’ best pick while surprisingly labeling Blake Corum as the team’s worst pick. Here is everything the CBS Sports writer had to say about both selections:“I loved the pick of Washington State defensive end Brennan Jackson in the fifth. He will bring a relentless style that will keep him in the league for a long time. He is perfect for the Rams defense.
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I didn’t love the pick of running back Blake Corum in the third. They have a good back in Kyren Williams, who they got in the fifth round. They could have waited to take a back.”
znModeratorIf you want to know more about your team's draft, easiest way to do it is search my @ and player's name. You'll find up-close videos from pre-game exposures last fall, like this👇one of #RamsHouse second-rounder Braden Fiske, and plenty of other tape breakdowns. RT for friends. pic.twitter.com/fpY2W3R2Ul
— Jim Nagy (@JimNagy_SB) April 28, 2024
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