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    Matthew Stafford Is Healthier Than He’s Been in Years

    ALBERT BREER

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/08/07/nfl-training-camp-takeaways-rams-matthew-stafford

    We’re rolling—14 teams down on my camp trip—so here are my takeaways from the trail 


    I’d be encouraged with where Matthew Stafford is if I were a Rams fan. Sometimes, if you’ve been covering these things for long enough, you can pluck a subtle difference in a player’s or a coach’s demeanor, or outlook, this time of year that carries over when the games start to count. And I had one of those moments with Stafford on Saturday out at Rams camp on the campus of UC Irvine.

    Sean McVay had used the word “reenergized” in describing where his quarterback was two weeks into camp, and I relayed the thought to Stafford himself.

    “I would agree with him,” Stafford says. “I mean, it was two years of battling through something that made doing my job really painful and not fun. It’s difficult when you’re out there and you’re in a lot of pain. It’s nice to feel healthy again and feel good enough to go out there and spin it like I want to with all these guys. And just operate like I want to.

    “It’s also fun being a little bit of an elder statesman and having a bunch of young guys around to try and teach them and coach them up as fast as I can, because we’re gonna need those guys. We’re gonna rely on them.”

    Stafford is in a much better position to prepare for the season than he was this time last year.

    As Stafford spoke, I noticed the sleeve over his right arm—when I brought it up to him, he explained it was just a cautionary thing. It was significant to me, really, in that it was the only trace of all that went wrong a year ago.

    Remember, at this point last year, Stafford was being carefully managed through camp. He wasn’t practicing much and, worse, it wasn’t like this was something new. More so, it was the crescendo of a couple of years of pain, which only made an already troublesome injury (any injury to a quarterback’s throwing elbow is) even scarier. It was fair, at the time, to at least wonder about his future.

    Which is why he addressed it aggressively this offseason, through a lot of trial and error.

    “Rest, rehab, a lot of work,” Stafford says. “A lot of things I try that either worked or didn’t work, helped a little, helped a lot. A lot of work from me, the training staff, a lot of people to try to get back to feeling good.”

    And on this day, he told me this is the best he’s felt in 


    “Three years? I don’t know,” he says, laughing. “It’s not a huge number, but it’s been a while. It’s really been a while. It’s the last four of five offseasons. I had a fractured back in ’19. After ’20, I came here, I had thumb surgery. After ’21, I had elbow stuff going on. So it’s been quite a few offseasons since I’ve felt like I could operate and get a full offseason under my belt and go play.”

    The result, for me, was easy to see. Stafford was bouncing around during practice. He was smiling afterward. For him, even training camp is fun again.

    “Yeah, I like doing my job again,” he says. “I feel good doing it. It’s a whole lot of fun when it’s like that.”

    #144807
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    from https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/10/rams-matthew-stafford-andrew-whitworth-elbow-injury/

    Andrew Whitworth is the latest person to come out and reveal just how much it impacted Stafford and the Rams as a whole. He said on the “Rich Eisen Show” that he wishes Stafford was on Netflix’s “Quarterback” series just so everyone could see what he was going through last year.

    “I think people really don’t understand because he is such a private guy and somebody that would never complain or even ever let you know when he’s going through something,” Whitworth said. “Last year was a really, really tough year. It’s unfortunate he wasn’t on the ‘Quarterback’ series that just came out because it would’ve crazy for people to see just how intense his arm issues and things that were bothering him.”

    Whitworth was almost baffled by Stafford’s limited offseason in 2022. He can’t believe he went into the season getting in so little work throughout the spring and summer, not being able to go through his typical offseason regimen.

    “He’s a private guy but I mean, to not throw a football with your guys the entire offseason basically,” Whitworth continued. “And then to get into camp and be like, ‘Hey, you can only throw so many balls a day and only so many times a week. To really have zero opportunities as a quarterback to throw passes to receivers and then walk into an NFL game and say, ‘All right, I’m gonna go out here and perform.’ One, you know that your arm is obviously not in a great place in how it’s feeling. And two, just having that ability to throw passes in practice and work at your craft. And that’s what every quarterback does. You see them after practice constantly working on certain things. To not have the ability to do that, man, just the mental state he had to be in of struggling. Like, ‘Hey, I want to go out here and perform. I want to live up to the expectations, but right now, I’m in a situation I can’t.’”

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    ESPN: NFL Quarterback Council 2023: Ranking top 10 QBs by trait

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38151402/nfl-quarterback-council-2023-ranking-top-10-traits

    Today’s NFL quarterbacks are asked to do so much every Sunday, and the best ones are often elite in multiple traits. Reading the field and finding weaknesses in the defense. Airing out deep shots for huge gains. Making precision passes on the move outside the pocket. Driving their teams downfield when the game is on the line. Picking up first downs on the ground when plays break down. But how do the top signal-callers in the league compare in each skill area? How do the NFL’s best of the best stack up by specific traits and abilities?

    For a third straight year, we asked ESPN’s NFL analysts — Matt Bowen, Tim Hasselbeck, Matt Miller, Dan Orlovsky, Jason Reid, Jordan Reid, Mike Tannenbaum, Seth Walder and Field Yates — to rank their personal top 10 NFL quarterbacks entering the 2023 season in 10 distinct categories, from arm strength to pocket presence. We combined those lists with a points-based system to generate final rankings in each area, all 10 of which are below.

    Our analysts then reacted to each list, explaining why the quarterbacks at or near the top of each group belong there and discussing what surprised them most about the final top-10s. We also gave a big stat to know, spun it forward with a young rising QB to watch for each trait and pointed out snubs who probably should have cracked each ranking. Let’s start with the best downfield throwers in the league, but you can jump to each category to see how the top quarterbacks rank in the other nine skills.

    Arm strength | Accuracy | Touch
    Mechanics | Field vision | Decision-making
    Compete level and toughness | In the pocket
    Rushing ability | Second reaction

    Arm strength

    This category is all about the biggest arms in the NFL. Pass velocity and the amount of zip a QB can put on a throw were factors in the ranking, as was the ability to hit the deep ball. Who are the best quarterbacks throwing the ball vertically and driving it into tight windows with authority? Here’s how we voted …

    1. Josh Allen, Bills
    2. Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs
    3. Justin Herbert, Chargers
    4. Aaron Rodgers, Jets
    5. Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars
    6. Anthony Richardson, Colts
    7. Jalen Hurts, Eagles
    8. Matthew Stafford, Rams
    9. Lamar Jackson, Ravens
    10. Kyler Murray, Cardinals

    Accuracy

    Arm strength doesn’t mean much if you can’t place the ball where it needs to go. Who can hit the tightest windows? Who locates their passes in the perfect spots? And who is never off target with their throws, displaying pinpoint precision?

    1. Joe Burrow, Bengals
    2. Aaron Rodgers, Jets
    3. Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs
    4. Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins
    T-5. Justin Herbert, Chargers
    T-5. Geno Smith, Seahawks
    7. Kirk Cousins, Vikings
    8. Matthew Stafford, Rams
    9. Dak Prescott, Cowboys
    10. Jalen Hurts, Eagles

    Mechanics

    In today’s NFL, quarterbacks have so many different throwing motions. But mechanics are still a big part of success. That includes a QB’s throwing motion, arm slot, release, follow-through and footwork, among other traits. Who are the most technically sound signal-callers in the league?

    1. Joe Burrow, Bengals
    2. Aaron Rodgers, Jets
    3. Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs
    4. Justin Herbert, Chargers
    T-5. Dak Prescott, Cowboys
    T-5. Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars
    T-7. Josh Allen, Bills
    T-7. Kirk Cousins, Vikings
    9. Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins
    T-10. Matthew Stafford, Rams
    T-10. Jared Goff, Lions

    Field vision

    Here we’re looking at the ability to read the field. Included in that are awareness and recognition when it comes to seeing defensive schemes or coverages, along with the fast eyes to identify blitzers, breaking defensive backs and open targets. Will a QB audible out when he needs to, diagnosing and understanding different defensive looks? And how quickly can he get through his progressions? Does he get stuck on his first read too often and stare down receivers, making it easy for the defense? Or can he scan the field, make the defense bite with his eyes and then find the open receiver?

    1. Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs
    2. Joe Burrow, Bengals
    3. Aaron Rodgers, Jets
    4. Josh Allen, Bills
    5. Justin Herbert, Chargers
    6. Jalen Hurts, Eagles
    7. Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars
    8. Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins
    9. Dak Prescott, Cowboys
    10. Matthew Stafford, Rams

    Compete level and toughness

    Who has the most desire to win? Toughness rolls into it, and our analysts looked at each quarterback’s bounce-back ability and resilience here, along with how well they can take a hit. Physicality is a big trait in this section, too. Compete level also speaks to a quarterback’s command of his offense, leadership qualities and ability to deliver in the clutch. Simply put, you can never count out the players who made this top 10.

    1. Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs

    2. Josh Allen, Bills
    3. Joe Burrow, Bengals
    4. Jalen Hurts, Eagles
    5. Justin Herbert, Chargers
    6. Matthew Stafford, Rams
    7. Dak Prescott, Cowboys
    8. Aaron Rodgers, Jets
    9. Justin Fields, Bears
    T-10. Lamar Jackson, Ravens
    T-10. Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars

    from https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2023/8/15/23832439/rams-matthew-stafford-qb-ranking-espn

    Stafford was notably snubbed in touch and pocket presence. On pocket presence, former New York Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum came to the quarterback’s defense:

    “Matthew Stafford’s movement traits and instincts in the pocket have allowed him to play at a high level for a long time, so I would have expected him to make the top 10.” per Tannenbaum of ESPN

    As for his touch, Stafford has proven that he can throw more than darts with his cannon of a right arm as NFL analyst Matt Bowen notes:

    “I was shocked to see Matthew Stafford missing here. Yes, he can throw absolute lasers, but let’s not forgot about his ability to deliver the ball with both touch and pace. It allows Stafford to layer throws over the second level of the defense or drop the ball into a bucket downfield.” per Bowen of ESPN

     

     

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    #144943
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    from the wiki

    Stafford in 2021

    Stafford passed for the second-most yards in a single postseason with 1,188. He became the first quarterback since Eli Manning to lead a fourth-quarter comeback in a Conference Championship and a Super Bowl in the same playoff season.<sup id=”cite_ref-245″ class=”reference”></sup> He became the first player in NFL history to pass for at least 6,000 yards and 50 touchdowns in the regular season and postseason combined all while leading a team to a Super Bowl victory in the same season.

    #144944
    InvaderRam
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    i wanna see him play for the rams for a long time and retire with this team.

     

    i think he’s got a lot of quality football left with him as long as he gets the protection he needs.

     

    and as long as coop can stay healthy. and i got good feelings about puka as well.

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    Stafford has some abilities i dont ‘think’ any other Ram QB has had.   When he’s healthy he can zing bullets so incredibly accurately over the middle.   I mean, they are on Fire.

    (Roman Gabriel had a cannon of course, but i dunno that Gabe was quite as accurate, plus George Allen kept him on a tight leash so i guess we will never know what he could have been. )

    I think about Stafford and Warner a lot.   I compare them in my mind all the time.

    I’m not sure which of the two i would want if i had to pick one for a big game.

    Prime-Warner or Prime-Stafford?   I dunno.

     

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    #145274
    InvaderRam
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    Prime-Warner or Prime-Stafford?

     

    hmmm. that’s an interesting question. i guess it’d depend on who the supporting cast is. if the talent around them was less i’d go with stafford. if the talent around them was greater and i wanted to maximize that talent i’d guess warner.

     

    i often wonder how warner would do in today’s nfl where qbs get so much protection due to the rules.

    #145275
    zn
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    Prime-Warner or Prime-Stafford?   I dunno.

    To me? It’s Stafford, and that’s without taking anything away from Warner. I just think a healthy Stafford does more. He makes all the plays Warner could, and has the sidearm and no-look passes in his aresenal at the same time, plus is more athletic overall. When he was younger he had a huge arm, a much stronger arm than Warner’s. Stafford is a rare player in the league, not just in Rams history. It’s as if the Rams got Archie Manning in 1978, with a lot of good years left in him.

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    InvaderRam
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    It’s as if the Rams got Archie Manning in 1978, with a lot of good years left in him.

     

    i wanna see him play six more years with the rams.  that includes this year.

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