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November 7, 2023 at 11:29 pm in reply to: media, twitter, some plays, the big articles, etc. … GB game #146679
znModeratorReally cool pressure design from Raheem Morris.
Loops Aaron Donald around the formation and all the LT can do is watch. pic.twitter.com/fl28MkMbqc
— Blaine Grisak š (@bgrisakTST) November 7, 2023
November 7, 2023 at 11:15 pm in reply to: media, twitter, some plays, the big articles, etc. … GB game #146678
znModeratorIt's not always perfect, but have been very impressed with Kobie Turner in the run game. Another stud rookie drafted in the 3rd round.
Turner leads all rookie DL in run stops via PFF with 17 and stop percentage at 12.3%.
Turner: 17 stops
Next closest rookie: 8 pic.twitter.com/rkiIZnnVmN— Blaine Grisak š (@bgrisakTST) November 7, 2023
znModeratorRams OLB Byron Young is among the nominees again: https://t.co/bMiHVMyQiU
— Stu Jackson (@StuJRams) November 7, 2023
November 7, 2023 at 7:02 pm in reply to: media, twitter, some plays, the big articles, etc. … GB game #146674
znModeratorI do think it's worth continuing to point out Henderson's ability in pass pro. He's been very good in that area since re-joining the team.
Won't be surprised if he stays in that role once Kyren Williams does return. pic.twitter.com/Yrz0x4m1hS
— Blaine Grisak š (@bgrisakTST) November 7, 2023
znModeratorMike Garafolo@MikeGarafoloWentz has been working with Jon Gruden this offseason. Now joins Gruden disciple Sean McVay with the #Rams, as @AaronWilson_NFL first reported..Rams24/7@Rams24_7McVay is far too stubborn. Heās made crucial personnel decisions late even though they seem like no-brainers to everyone else: 1. Z. Thomas @ LT over Noteboom wk 3 2. Waiting until after PIT game to look for alternatives to Maher 3. Waiting until after GB game to upgrade Rypien.Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueSwitching around various backups with a starter returning from an injury is not ideal but Rams find themselves doing it two years in a row. 11 months ago (almost to the day), the Rams picked Baker Mayfield up off waivers after previously starting John Wolford and Bryce Perkins in games in which Matthew Stafford was hurt. Now, they sign free agent Carson Wentz after Brett Rypienās start on Sunday.
znModeratorI donāt like Wentz much. But the Rams donāt take my calls anymore so I guess I have no input. ā¦
I sāpose you wanted them to bring in Bert Jones for a looksie.
No! I was thinking Namath.
znModeratorI don’t like Wentz much.
But the Rams don’t take my calls anymore so I guess I have no input.
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znModeratorR U SERIOUS KEENAN?
šŗ: @espn pic.twitter.com/nSmXEEfIEf
— Los Angeles Chargers (@chargers) November 7, 2023
znModeratorQuarterback play is down across the league. If you watched the New York Jets play on Monday night, you’re well aware.
Want to know why scoring is down? Check out the QB play across the league. Why does it seem there are no great teams this season? QB play.
Why is it hard to fill out a top-five best games of the season list after two months? You guessed it.
Think of it this way: How many quarterbacks are playing better than their expectation this season? That list is very short.
There was a four-year stretch from 2018-21 in which the passer rating across the league was above 90 each season, peaking at 93.6 in 2020. That dipped to 89.1 last season and was 89.3 this season before Monday night’s game, in which winning quarterback Justin Herbert had a 65.4 rating. This season’s rating could drop well below 89 as injuries pile up and the weather gets worse.
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams
Sean McVay said Tyler Higbee is āfighting through a lot of stuffā and that heās āplaying with something that restrictsā his right hand, on his right thumb.Tried to mix in Brycen Hopkins and Davis Allen, but also mentioned trying figure out the balance between
that and taking a veteran leader and contributor off the field, and what that percentage/threshold is.
āThereās certain plays that weāve kind of talked about that to try to protect him and get those other guys involved,ā McVay said.
znModeratorCJ Stroud was the most impressive player in the @NFL this Sunday, and heās just a rookie.
If you have a pulse, youāll want to see this. Just wow, wow. #AchoAnalysis @HoustonTexans pic.twitter.com/ef52iv5gyp
— Emmanuel Acho (@EmmanuelAcho) November 6, 2023
znModeratorLos Angeles Rams PR@TheLARamsPRNT Kobie Turner recorded career-high numbers on Sunday. He totaled single-game career bests in tackles (10), sacks (1.0), and tackles causing unsuccessful plays for the offense (5). Turner also recorded 2 pressures, 1 QB hit, 1 hurry, and 1 tackle for loss..Rams Tapes@RamsTapesByron Young:
2 sacks
1 forced fumble
1 QB hit
10 total tackles
znModeratorApart from Seattle, though, I {partially} recall only one other time where I saw McVay do this, and it was when he came out with a greater emphasis on running the ball. It might have been against the Colts;
That was Arizona.
Good post btw and I agree.
The entire Rodrigue article I quote is at the end of this thread: media, twitter, some plays, the big articles, etc. ⦠GB game
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znModerator* McVay struggles at adjusting in game and is much more of a preparation guy. It definitely is something to keep an eye on..Jourdan Rodriguemaybe Iām being overly fair but really trying to listen to what Kupp is saying – [note: Kupp said this: “The Rams are an offense against which other teams are successfully breaking their own defensive tendencies. That means the Rams see certain patterns and sequences on tape when studying opponents, but Kupp said in the game they are also frequently seeing teams deviate from that tape when they play Los Angeles”] – thereās a difference between understanding how to adjust and then having the ability (skill, experience, yes inclusive to calls, menu of calls etc) to do it. Probably somewhere in the middle and a hard lesson for a coach who is used to vets to learn, plus a hard lesson for young players to learn quickly. I hearken back to 2019 ā¦different circumstances but still had a face a league shift he helped create head on, and it was tough sledding. Did it, though. I think McVay is a great coach who is going through the learning curves and league arcs most others do while assistants, not in the big seat. That said learning and growth by ALL must occur. Thatās what they promised this year would truly be about, after all.November 6, 2023 at 9:51 am in reply to: media, twitter, some plays, the big articles, etc. … GB game #146639
znModeratorThe Rams saw a bleak glimpse of what a future without competent quarterback play would mean especially with a young roster and a staff that seemed to be spinning.
But Sundayās loss also reiterated some things that might be more insidious https://t.co/TvXoJ1WDtC— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) November 6, 2023
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Rodrigue: Bleak day for Rams leads to bigger questions about short and long term
By Jourdan Rodrigue
GREEN BAY, Wis. ā The Los Angeles Rams spent all offseason telling fans they would be more competitive than expected in 2023 because of their three āweight-bearing wallsā: quarterback Matthew Stafford, receiver Cooper Kupp and defensive tackle Aaron Donald.
In Sundayās 20-3 loss to the Green Bay Packers, whoever stuck around through all four quarters to watch the stink fest saw the depths of the other side. Without just one of those players ā Stafford, who suffered an ulnar collateral ligament sprain last week in a loss to the Dallas Cowboys and was inactive ā an offense that was already struggling to put together a complete game deteriorated.
Backup Brett Rypien completed 13 of 28 pass attempts, fumbled twice (and lost one) and threw an interception in an awful outing.
āI think there were some instances where we can play better around him, we can put him in better spots,ā coach Sean McVay said, āand then he can certainly do some things in terms of his ability to play at a higher clip consistently throughout. ⦠Collectively, we can do a better job.ā
The Rams averaged 2.3 yards per carry between their two running backs and had five runs that lost yardage ā including a sweep to Ben Skowronek on third-and-1 in the opening drive. The defense, which was not perfect by any stretch ā they allowed 184 rushing yards and had some big miscues in the pass game on the Packersā second touchdown drive ā did take the ball away from the Packers twice, after which the Rams scored no points. The Rams had four first downs in the second half, of 10 total.
McVay and Rypien got a long chance to talk together near the sideline during the break between the third and fourth quarters, with a fourth-and-2 coming up on the other side and the Rams still only down 10-3. The play call was a short-yardage run, out of 11 personnel (three receivers, only one tight end), and out of shotgun. It failed.
Early in the third quarter, McVay took a delay penalty and elected to punt from the Green Bay 36-yard line instead of going for a 53-yard field goal (kicker Lucas Havrisik previously made a 52-yarder on the opposite goal posts, the Ramsā only points of the day), citing the distance as the issue. Havrisik missed his next attempt, a 49-yard try. Tight end Tyler Higbee, McVay acknowledged, has been āfighting through a lot of stuff, and is playing with something that restricts his hand on his right thumb.ā Higbee also appeared to bang up his left hand during the game. Yet several of the run game concepts the Rams activated Sunday depended on Higbeeās blocking (a two-hand, two-armed task), and he had a pass broken up that should have been secured as a catch, with McVay indicating after the game that in part they needed to have another veteran presence on the field (they are without right tackle Rob Havenstein, as well as Stafford).
And on, and on ā yet even that descriptor is not accurate, because it implies forward progress and the Rams had next to none.
āA good, humbling day,ā McVay said after the game, āsometimes you have days like that. ⦠There really (were) not a lot of positives to take away.ā
āHumbling is a word,ā said Kupp, who finished the game with two catches for 48 yards. āāCrappyā would be good, too. ⦠We have so many good football players, so many competent people on that sideline. And when things arenāt working, itās a frustrating feeling.ā
Among his postgame comments, McVay noted the weather ā sporadic rain and chilly, though not freezing, temperatures ā was a factor in Rypienās and othersā play and even limited the menu of plays from which he felt comfortable selecting. There were multiple fumbles/ball-security issues from both teams and a couple of drops by receivers. Rypien, who changed his cleats and put on a glove mid-game to combat the more slippery conditions, didnāt want to use the weather as an excuse for his errors.
āItās tough to say how I feel right now,ā he said after the game, ābecause I did really feel like I had a great week of practice. Probably my best Iāve had, going into a start. Itās frustrating, to say the least. I canāt really put my finger on it, but I just never really felt like we were able to get over that hump and really get rolling and get on the same page. Itās frustrating, for sure.ā
Stafford might return in Week 11, and McVay said he was āhopefulā on that front though couldnāt commit with certainty. Kupp was a little firmer on the matter, saying, āIām optimistic. Iāve said earlier this week, Matthew is the toughest guy Iāve ever met. I know heās going to do everything he can to be out there on the field. Whenever he is on the field, Iām sure itāll be sooner than anybody else wants him to be on the field.ā
Sunday, no matter what McVay said or didnāt say at the podium throughout the prior week, Staffordās availability was always going to come down to whether he could grip a football ā it wasnāt even about pain, more so functionality. With that understanding, Rypien and the coaching staff prepared as if he would get the start, as noted frequently throughout the week. He spoke in Staffordās designated news conference slot Wednesday. He took the first-team reps, and players talked about him to media as if heād start in Green Bay as early as Monday afternoon.
Do I believe the organization realistically thought Stafford could play Sunday after Mondayās tests revealed the sprain, with a Week 10 bye? No, I donāt (though some internally did remain hopeful). The Rams tried to sign former backup John Wolford last Monday, for example, which is not the sign of a team that is confident in its starterās availability nor the ability of its rostered backups. The media can ask all the questions possible in McVayās Wednesday and Friday news conferences ā on grip, on swelling, on what the return-to-play process looks like ā but he still declined to say Friday whether Stafford could grip a football (anything that is not a āyesā is a āno,ā folks!) when asked directly. Sunday night, Rypien pulled back the curtain a little bit when he said he had a good idea heād start throughout the week but knew for sure Friday ā when Stafford āwasnāt really able to grip a ball or anything.ā
Do I believe Stafford did everything he could to play, and so the organization publicly left the door open in case of some Sunday morning miracle in the teamās Appleton, Wis., hotel? Sure. Stafford will always try to play. If he canāt grip a football, he canāt play. That is a fact, it was all week, and it will be after the bye.
In truth, it matters less who was publicly vague or noncommittal throughout the week, and it matters most that the Rams caught a glimpse of a future without competent quarterback play. It was as bleak as the skies overhead, with a roster and staff seemingly ill-equipped in its current state to suffer such a future.
If they continue to play like this, the Rams might have a shot at solidifying their long-term outlook at the position, even if a returned-to-health Stafford (who was playing really well when healthy) is certainly their shorter-term future.
But thereās something more insidiously concerning at play: The Rams are an offense against which other teams are successfully breaking their own defensive tendencies.
That means the Rams see certain patterns and sequences on tape when studying opponents, but Kupp said after the game they are also frequently seeing teams deviate from that tape when they play Los Angeles. The Rams considered the Packers, for example, to be a āman (man-to-man) outfit on third down,ā Rypien said, but they instead played disguised man looks where they sank into Tampa 2 after the snap.
āThis year, for whatever reason, I feel like weāve seen a lot of that,ā Kupp said of the defensive tendency-breaking, including on Sunday. āIām sure Matthewās brain is part of the reason why. Defensive coordinators want to feel like they throw some different stuff out there. Try to mess Matthew up. But weāve been seeing some weird stuff, some different stuff that has kind of come from out of the blue.ā
Kupp expanded when I asked him whether, collectively ā players and coaches ā are adequately coming up with the correct answers to their in-game problems on the fly. If defenses are throwing different things at the Rams during a game, the next step is the Ramsā adjusting to counter. But the offense has struggled to put four complete quarters together and has only scored more than 20 points once in the last five games (a 1-4 stretch).
āYeah,ā Kupp said, āI think there is something about being able to say, āWhat is the capacity to be able to make plays right?ā I do think, I credit Green Bay, they put some stuff on film, some tendencies (things that are) beyond tendencies, like, āHey, this is pretty locked in. This is how they do things.ā Suddenly, we get something thatās not. They break that tendency on a random third down, or a random fourth down. Itās like, āshoot,ā well, you always anticipate and you never try to predetermine. And thatās football. ⦠(Green Bay) did a good job of changing some stuff up, like most defenses have that weāve seen this season. Stuff weāre seeing on film, we get some different stuff.ā
Stafford alluded to the tendency-breaking Kupp discussed two weeks ago when I asked him a similar question.
āI think, from what Iāve seen from defensive coordinators, I think they have a lot of respect for who our head coach is and who our core offensive minds are in this building,ā he said at that time. āWhat you see on tape is not what you get on Sundays. I think weāve had to adjust quite a bit, probably more so than some other teams ā then youāve got to go out there and make the adjustments and go make the plays.ā
Kupp said he believes the coaching staff has ādone a good job adapting,ā but added that in the middle of a play, the players also have to know their jobs āand when things change, youāve got to make it rightā (Kupp noted specifically he was also addressing himself in those comments).
Nobody, Kupp added, is reinventing the wheel against the Rams. āNothing otherworldly,ā he said, āItās just about recognizing (it), and being able to make the changes.ā
Kupp was talking about collective in-game adjustments between players and coaches, against defenses.
But the Rams must apply his exact words to their bigger picture ā during the bye, in the rest of the season, and beyond.
znModeratorGeoff Schwartz@geoffschwartzBengals beat 49ers and Bills in back to back weeks. Bengals are back.
znModeratorHeck, I think the Rams would have won that game behind Wolford.
I actually found myself feeling sentimental about John Wolford yesterday.
They tried to sign Wolford off the Tampa practice squad and he turned the Rams down to stay in Tampa.
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRamsSean McVay said Tyler Higbee is āfighting through a lot of stuffā and that heās āplaying with something that restrictsā his right hand, on his right thumb. Tried to mix in Brycen Hopkins and Davis Allen, but also mentioned trying figure out the balance betweenā¦.that and taking a veteran leader and contributor off the field, and what that percentage/threshold is. āThereās certain plays that weāve kind of talked about that to try to protect him and get those other guys involved,ā McVay said.
znModeratorRamblin’ Fan@RamblinFanAfter 9 games in his rookie season, Lions’ Aiden Hutchinson had 5.5 QB sacks and 31 tackles After 9 games in his rookie season, Rams’ Byron Young has 5.0 QB sacks and 39 tackles.November 5, 2023 at 6:34 pm in reply to: media, twitter, some plays, the big articles, etc. … GB game #146616
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams
Sean McVay said postgame that although Matthew Stafford (right thumb) is “making good progress” gripping the football, “it wasn’t anywhere to where we thought he would be able to go for us.”Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueYou would think that the Packers getting 37 yards on third-and-12 off what looked like a miscommunication in the defensive backfield, then a TD two plays later, would be classified as the “back-breaker” of this game, except it already felt like that back at 10-3..Duke Shelley came in for Cobie Durant, who is with medical staff on sideline. Durant coming off a shoulder stinger last week. Interesting that Shelley was the first sub on the outside.November 5, 2023 at 6:30 pm in reply to: media, twitter, some plays, the big articles, etc. … GB game #146615
znModeratorLuckiest play in NFL history š pic.twitter.com/y1IhkLYUFU
— Rams Tapes š„¶ (@RamsTapes) November 5, 2023
November 5, 2023 at 6:13 pm in reply to: media, twitter, some plays, the big articles, etc. … GB game #146614
znModeratordonald is a generational talent, but on top of that he just wants it more than most everyone else, what a beast, one of the greatest that's ever played. pic.twitter.com/qFzqNotT6p
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) November 5, 2023
November 5, 2023 at 6:10 pm in reply to: media, twitter, some plays, the big articles, etc. … GB game #146613
znModeratormy guess is this looked better on the chalkboard? pic.twitter.com/NJFRGYmV1P
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) November 5, 2023
znModeratorBlaine Grisak@bgrisakTSTThe loss of Ernest Jones is being very underrated for the Rams defense. He’s been one of the best LBs against run this season. Packers are getting Aaron Jones back. Would expect Quentin Lake at “money LB” in sub-packages, but big questions in the run game.
znModeratorAdam Schefter@AdamSchefterRamsā Puka Nacua, listed as questionable for Sunday due to a knee injury, is expected to play vs. the Packers, per source. twitter.com/adamschefter/sā¦
znModeratorIan Rapoport@RapSheetNo one would rule #Rams QB Matthew Stafford out, but sources say the plan is for QB Brett Rypien to get the start on Sunday vs the #Packers, per me and @TomPelissero. Unless Stafford (UCL sprain) surprises everyone and wakes up feeling ready, itāll be Rypien..Blaine Grisak @bgrisakTSTBrett Rypien’s last start came last season for the Denver Broncos against the Arizona Cardinals. The Broncos won that game 24-15 as Rypien went 21-for-26 for 197 yards, throwing one touchdown and an interception.
znModeratorReggie White casually using wide receivers as projectiles š
pic.twitter.com/zyMB3kql9C— Footballism (@FootbaIIism) November 4, 2023
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The great John Madden breaking down the dynamic matchup between Dwight Freeney and Rams @ProFootballHOF Left Tackle @OrlandoPace_HOF #AllMadden #RIPJohnMadden pic.twitter.com/UHS57OrH7R
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) December 29, 2021
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