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wvParticipantTalk Radio is lowering my IQ,
audio, by audio, slowly, enexorably,
lowering me to a bonobo level.And Frank Cusomano wasn’t even
on that one.…btw, i saw a book review about a
book called Inner Ape or something like that,
where a Bonobo took care of a sick bird
and nursed it back to health,
thereby…proving…something.w
vJanuary 7, 2016 at 5:06 pm in reply to: Bucs fire Lovie, Coughlin resigns, which naturally leads to Fisher discussion #36764wvParticipantI thought Fisher did a good job his first year here, but that must have been due to a weak schedule, because the team hasn’t done better since.
7-8-1
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7-9Now, if we look back at his days with the Oilers/Titans, he started out:
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8-8His fifth year was the turnaround. That was 1999. 13-3 and a trip to the Super Bowl thanks to that miracle special teams play. Then, one yard away from forcing OT for the championship.
So, maybe 2016-2017 is the season the Rams go back to the Super Bowl … if only they hang on to Fisher.
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Well, to go ‘that’ deep in the playoffs, he’s
gonna need someone as good as prime-Steve McNair.They can scratch and claw their way
to ten ugly wins with Keenum/Mannion….maybe they give the OC job to the Browns coach,
and then give a pick for Josh McCown. I dunno.w
vwvParticipantYeah, well, I don’t think he has any fans. I hope they don’t think that getting a new receivers coach is the answer. Pretty sure most of us just want the guy off the roster.
Yeah, no more David Lynch
tight ends.w
vJanuary 7, 2016 at 8:50 am in reply to: From the archives: Kroenke's pledge to keep the Rams in St. Louis #36749wvParticipantSure, he’ll say that.
I would say that he attempted much harder to find a way to get to L.A. than he has to find a way to stay in St. Louis. He stopped taking phone calls from the STL Mayor and MO Governor. At the same time, he was working with Inglewood’s Mayor. I mean, people aren’t stupid. It’s easy to see through.
I just hope weasels like Kronky and Jerry Jones dont destroy the NFL
the way the rich-idiots in MLB have destroyed pro Baseball.w
vwvParticipantI’m just gonna go on predicting ten wins
every year. No-one can stop me.2016 — Ten Wins.
I also predict Kronky will drown in the ocean
under suspicious circumstances,
and a showgirl will inherit the Rams,
and she will move them to Vegas.w
vJanuary 6, 2016 at 11:07 pm in reply to: Bucs fire Lovie, Coughlin resigns, which naturally leads to Fisher discussion #36743wvParticipantInteresting stat on the Steelers
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vhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/06/aj-mccarron-will-be-the-sixth-straight-backup-steelers-have-faced/
AJ McCarron will be the sixth straight backup Steelers have faced
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 6, 2016, 5:48 PM EST
Johnny Manziel, Arthur Moats APIf, as expected, the Bengals are forced to go with backup quarterback AJ McCarron on Saturday, it will be a familiar feeling for the Steelers’ defense: Playing backup quarterbacks has become the norm for Pittsburgh.
In fact, assuming Andy Dalton can’t go, Saturday’s game would be the sixth straight game in which the Steelers faced a backup on the other team.
On Sunday, the Steelers closed the regular season against Browns third-string quarterback Austin Davis. A week earlier the Steelers got the Ravens’ fourth quarterback, Ryan Mallett. The week before that, the Steelers got Broncos backup Brock Osweiler. The week before that, the Steelers got the Bengals and McCarron. The week before that, the Steelers got Colts backup Matt Hasselbeck.
The Steelers also faced Browns backup Johnny Manziel in Week 10, which means that counting McCarron on Saturday, Pittsburgh will have faced a backup in seven of its last eight games. Overall, the Steelers were 5-1 against backup quarterbacks this year and 5-5 against starters. They owe part of their position in the playoffs to bad luck befalling opposing teams’ quarterbacks.
January 6, 2016 at 10:48 pm in reply to: Kroenke Building Stadium No Matter What (relocation thread) #36740wvParticipantI think a Rams move to LA might officially cure me of my addiction to this team. I’m a nomad so Stan’s actions don’t piss me off because he’s betraying St Louis. Stan just comes across as a giant hypocritical, asshole. The owner of my team doesn’t need to be a wonderful person, but I’d like his nastiness to at least remain hidden.
From what I understand, the Rams chose to release the report that trashes St Louis and cements my feelings. If true, that’s just mind boggling to me. I also find the part of the report talking about the decline in attendance offensive. How can anybody expect people to spend their money watching this team when they’ve been bad for so long? Haven’t the Rams continued to make money even though they have been a failure for the most part for over a decade?
Stan’s complaint about St Louis being a 2 sport town is not only a bad argument, but it’s also annoying or insulting or something. I’m also especially turned off by Stan’s previous comments that he would do his “damndest” to stay in St. Louis. Maybe his hypocrisy shouldn’t irritate me as much as it does, but it really bothers me.
Like most others, I already have demands on my time–3 small children in my case–that make following the team challenging at times. Now I feel like the enjoyment I get from the Rams will be further tainted by Kroenke. I feel like I’ll have a hard time divorcing the LA Rams from Stan the lying asshat.
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Well the Rams, like most major pro-teams,
have a line of billionaire-asshats that have owned
them. Read about Carroll Rosenbloom sometime, if
you wanna read about a total asshat. Do i need
to even mention Georgia and all the Nixonian,
unethical crap she pulled. And now we got
Mr corporate-sociopath-Kronky.Its much like the Game of Thrones.
Through it all though, despite the
Owners, there’s also been…Merlin, and Jack Y,
and Snow, and SJax…and Massey.w
vwvParticipantI think they’re running a Weak Coffee Offense. Could be wrong … I could use some stronger coffee today.
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Wobbly Cake Offense ?
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vJanuary 6, 2016 at 7:28 pm in reply to: From the archives: Kroenke's pledge to keep the Rams in St. Louis #36727wvParticipant——————
From the archives: Kroenke’s pledge to keep the Rams in St. Louis
April 21, 2010 12:00 am“I’m going to attempt to do everything that I can to keep the Rams in St. Louis,” Kroenke said in a phone interview Tuesday night. “Just as I did everything that I could to bring the team to St. Louis in 1995. I believe my actions speak for themselves.”
…Kroenke said, “I’ll do my damnedest,” to secure the Rams’ future in St. Louis.
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“I’m born and raised in Missouri,” Kroenke said. “I’ve been a Missourian for 60 years. People in our state know me. People know I can be trusted. People know I am an honorable guy.”
———————Well, when you really look at those quotes,
there was no pledge other than to ‘try’.
And in Kronky’s mind, I’m sure he would
say he “did his damndest” but St.Louis
wouldn’t give him a good deal.That’s what he’d say, right.
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vwvParticipantI thought I would drop in to say hello. I hope this finds you all well and on your way to an epic 2016.
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Comrad Ozone. It has a nice ring to it 🙂
What do you have to say about this
last season. How would you sum it all up?w
vwvParticipantReally its not that much of a change. The RB coach. And the WR coach. The others were kinda minor coaches, right?
They keep Boudreau and Boras.
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vRB, WRx2, and ST. I want to see who he hires. btw, did you look at next year’s schedule? He had better find some good ones
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Well the Important thing to me,
is that NOW, we can start all-new conspiracy theories
about who nudged Fisher, and
why Fisher was forced at gunpoint to fire coaches,
and just How much did John Shaw have to do with this,
and what did the smoking man know,
and when did he know it….and what about all
those fields of corn…w
vwvParticipantReally its not that much of a change. The RB coach. And the WR coach. The others were kinda minor coaches, right?
They keep Boudreau and Boras.
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vwvParticipantFwiw, DeFilippo runs a WCO.
There was a time when that would have bugged me. Never liked that horizontal passing game featuring quick outs and shallow crossing patterns. It’s the offense that brought the ‘pick play’ to football, which by all rights should be OPI. I’ve always been a fan of the Coryell offense even before the GSOT days.
But beggars can’t be choosers. I stopped caring how the Rams win a long time ago. I just want an offense that works and if Flip is their best hope for making that happen then I say hire him.
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I thot the ‘were‘ running a
Worst Coast Offense.I’ll be here all week.
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vJanuary 6, 2016 at 4:36 pm in reply to: Kroenke Building Stadium No Matter What (relocation thread) #36707wvParticipantI’m wondering if somewhere along the way that SK felt disrespected in this process …
I really don’t know how L.A. fans like Joe could go through this type of thing and still follow the Rams so closely. If there’s anything that will keep me following, it could be this bunch of fans on this board right here. I can’t say that for sure, because honestly I get busy and I’m very stingy with my time.
And, really, as I get older, sports becomes less and less important to me. .. There are much worse things that can happen to you than to lose an NFL franchise (a second time).
I don’t think it’s a matter of disrespect with Stan. I don’t think anything is personal with him. It is all business. The man’s entire life has been business deals, making money. That’s what he does. He is one of those guys who is simply a Borg of Business. He is literally a Multi-national Corporation in human form. Corporations aren’t sentimental. St. Louis is simply a market. Los Angeles is a market. For Kroenkeco, Los Angeles is a better place to build Empire than St. Louis is. It is that simple.
And I agree with WV in the sense that his argument is entirely “legal” rather than emotional. There’s no name-calling or anything personal. It is “scorched earth” in the sense that he argues that St. Louis is entirely deficient as a marketplace. He doesn’t stop with just saying, “The dome isn’t 1st tier.” He wants to move. So he pulled out all the stops, and presented the most damning argument he could against St. Louis, and the most favorable argument he could towards his Inglewood project. If he pulled punches anywhere, it was on Carson.
And I fully agree with you on “time,” and on priorities. I have other things to do, too, things that matter. And sports…as much fun as they are…the longer I live, the more I am disappointed. My heart got broken on the scoreboard many times when I was a kid. And I saw my favorite players leave as free agents, and I saw rule changes I didn’t like, and traditions discarded, and the commodification of everything, and the price of paraphernalia and tickets skyrocket, and games get harder to watch on TV, and teams move away from loyal fans, and strikes, and lockouts, and replacement players, and it all just takes a toll. There are far, far more ways to be disappointed in sports than there are ways to find happiness. Only one team wins each year. Everyone else experiences some level of disappointment.
Bu you are certainly right when you say there are worse things that can happen to you.
I follow the Rams even when they are down, but if not for this band of brothers posting here, I wouldn’t spend as much time on them as I do.
You know, I think a lot of fans treat their fandom like a religion, and they cast disdain on “bandwagon” fans, and all that. I just am not wired that way. And I think all the disappointment in my teams, the owners, the management, the league, has just taught me that I should treat my loyalty the same way the owners treat their teams. I mean…Stan (and hosts of other owners before him) has shown he doesn’t care about the fans per se. Owners believe they don’t owe us anything. So I don’t see why we owe them anything. I don’t understand sports as religion. It’s a business arrangement. And if they provide a crappy product, I don’t have to give it my money. I’m NOT paying to watch the games, and I’m not paying $185 for a shirt that cost them $4 to make in China.
When the Rams left LA, I had to decide if I was dropping them as a fan or not. I, like other nomads, decided the zip code of their stadium wasn’t as important to me as the team and the history of it that I grew up with, and internalized. It was important, but not THAT important. To me. But “home” team was never a thing for me, since none of the teams I root for are local. Anyway, I just realized that the Rams are part of me. And I wasn’t going to let them take that from me. That was my decision. I just decided – as much as I didn’t want them to move – that geography was less important to me than other things.
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Ditto to all that, zooey.
I kinda wish fans would stop doin what they do.
I wish they’d stop paying ridiculous ticket prices.
Just stay the F### Home. And stop paying for all those
ridiculous tv-packages. And stop buying all the corporate
jerseys for a gazillion dollars. Etc.
Stop all the money-madness, and just…follow the team
without giving money to the corp-machine.But of course thats like saying don’t buy plastic
shit at Walmart — aint gonna happen.I could go on…. 🙂
Anyway, i enjoy the hell out of this small
group of posting-apes on this small planet,
in this swirling blazing galaxy, in this mysterious
dark void of space.w
vJanuary 6, 2016 at 2:08 pm in reply to: Kroenke Building Stadium No Matter What (relocation thread) #36704wvParticipantStan has taken a scorched earth policy.
Yeah, he completely set fire to St. Louis, not just for the Rams, but he argues that it is a losing business proposition for any team.
I don’t know, of course, what the counterarguments are on the economic issues surrounding the stadium and the city, but he clearly burned every bridge behind him. Wow.
I don’t know what his Plan B is, but it isn’t St. Louis.
Well, i dunno shit about how stadium-corporate-Bizness
works, but maybe its not so much “scorched earth” language as much
as “the usual contract language” in cases like this. Ya know.I have no idea, what Mr Walmart really ‘feels’ about St.Louis.
My sense though…is that he would not even
care about…the Canolis.wvParticipantThrough the first 15 games, I have the 49ers averaging 14.6 points per game, so…
(And they averaged 15.2 vs. non-Ram opponents)Ultimately, I’m just really tired of getting burned by dumpoff passes.
–Mike
Mike, I think i speak for everyone on this little board of outcasts, banned-posters, riff-raff, savages, and Ag,
when i say, we really appreciate all the work and the posts.Dont be a stranger.
w
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“The sight of human affairs deserves admiration and pity. And he is
not insensible who pays them the undemonstrative tribute of a
sigh which is not a sob, and of a smile that is not a grin.” Joseph ConradJanuary 6, 2016 at 10:05 am in reply to: Kroenke Building Stadium No Matter What (relocation thread) #36693wvParticipantI think kroenke is getting desperate.
Well if you worked for the Anti-Christ
you might feel a little pressure, too.w
vwvParticipantI think it’s as simple as, if they have Gurley they win.
I agree, but it was a last place team they
were playing. So one would like to root for a team
that could beat a last place team even without Gurley.You see, i have danced circles around your
Gurley post.w
vwvParticipantBad play-calling day all around, particularly from Gregg Williams, who’s gotten off the hook, not even been on it, actually, all season despite a number of horrid play-calling games.
He has been out coached in a number of games.
16 points in four quarters
is not good enuff for you and Mike?Tough crowd.
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vwvParticipant“There isn’t another team in the NFL that would bring Jeff Fisher back next season.”
You know, for better or worse,
this might be true.I dont blame GW for any
thing in this one, myself. 16 points
in four quarters is all GW’s D gave up.
I’d say his plan worked well enough.It was the passing game that kilt em.
As per usual.
And of course the injuries (Gurley, Quinn, etc)Are you gonna be posting in the offseason,
Mike?w
vwvParticipantDoes it really matter who the OC is, when we don’t have a QB? I mean, there’s only so much they can do with this offense.
Is that crafty old QB McCown a free agent?
w
vJanuary 6, 2016 at 7:50 am in reply to: Kroenke Building Stadium No Matter What (relocation thread) #36682wvParticipantStan has taken a scorched earth…
I’m telling you now, if this all plays out the way it looks to me, I just don’t know if I can support the NFL anymore. I’ll see how I feel after the dust settles, but I’m pretty sick about this whole process at this point. Billionaires holding up cities for public assistance…”
Yeah, i totally understand that feeling/thought-process.
I dont think i need to tell-ya how much I despise
the ‘Big-Corporate‘ aspect of College-Football,
MLB, Pro-Football, NBA, etc, etc.Somehow or other, i find a way
to enjoy the game-itself, and tune out all
the hype, corporate-shit, pre-games, post-games,
Commissioner-stuff, ticket-price-crap,
player-salaries, coach-salaries, TV-crap…
….prettymuch ALL of it — except the game,
itself. Its still fun for me, to watch a ‘team’
struggling through ‘adversity’ to reach a goal.
And its fun to see the unexpected plays,
and beauty and strategy and force of the game.So far, i still enjoy the game itself,
and the internet message-board conversations.It’s easier to do that as a ‘nomad’ though.
I don’t have to care where they play.w
vJanuary 5, 2016 at 1:30 pm in reply to: Wagoner: Fisher undecided on offensive coordinator, hints at other changes #36653wvParticipantWell it sounds like a wise decision,
to think about it. See who’s out there.
Rationally, calmly, Weigh the pros and cons.
And then, ya know, catapult all the offensive
coaches and most of the players into the Sea.w
vwvParticipantI think what will happen is the Rams will fire David Lynch, only to re-hire him several seasons previous to this, before they originally hired him. But. Will it be him? Ask the cowboy, I bet he knows.
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Ok, but I’m for Firing the first David Lynch,
and keeping the second David Lynch.Though, I think the second David Lynch
needs to be waterboarded until he agrees
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Laram (On Treadwell)I’m going to really start to break him down, but at this point looking at him I’m not overly impressed.
Long strider who doesn’t appear to separate well at all, so he will have to have some other things in his toolbox.
I will be looking for those “other” things.
Reminds me of Alshon from first glance.
wvParticipantThe Rams didn’t score a single point after the half, and only scored a TD due to a great defensive play.
Gurley ‘is’ the offense.
If you are a DC, what else is out there
on the field you would worry about?They need to draft or sign a couple of
offensive playmakers that give a DC
somethin to worry about.Thats do-able, i would think.
w
vJanuary 4, 2016 at 3:52 pm in reply to: Podcast 1/4 – Thomas and Balzer Those are like David Lynch Zombie audios. #36614wvParticipantWhat’s with all this David Lynch stuff all the sudden?
Bad director filled with bad ideas. Not suave at all. Trying my best to forget everything he ever did.
Before I can even start to plot / plan travel next year, what are the odds we’re still in the NFC West next year?
Thanks a bunch.
But who would you rather have coaching the Rams:
Jeff Fisher or David Lynch?I mean, assuming they couldnt get
the Coen Brothers.w
vJanuary 4, 2016 at 2:53 pm in reply to: Podcast 1/4 – Thomas and Balzer Those are like David Lynch Zombie audios. #36604wvParticipantYou failed to mention that
Frank cusomano is on the Balzer audio.It would be wrong
to listen to that one.The JT one is even worse,
btw.Those are like David Lynch Zombie
audios.w
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2016 NFL draft order
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/194439/titans-top-nfls-2016-draft-orderThe 2016 first-round draft order for the 20 non-playoff teams.
Pick Team W-L Win Pct
1 Tennessee Titans 3-13 0.188
2 Cleveland Browns 3-13 0.188
3 San Diego Chargers 4-12 0.250
4 Dallas Cowboys 4-12 0.250
5 Jacksonville Jaguars 5-11 0.313
6 Baltimore Ravens 5-11 0.313
7 San Francisco 49ers 5-11 0.313
8 Miami Dolphins 6-10 0.375
9 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 6-10 0.375
10 New York Giants 6-10 0.375
11 Chicago Bears 6-10 0.375
12 New Orleans Saints 7-9 0.438
13 Philadelphia Eagles 7-9 0.438
14 Oakland Raiders 7-9 0.438
15 St. Louis Rams 7-9 0.438
16 Detroit Lions 7-9 0.438
17 Atlanta Falcons 8-8 0.500
18 Indianapolis Colts 8-8 0.500
19 Buffalo Bills 8-8 0.500
20 New York Jets 10-6 0.625January 4, 2016 at 12:55 pm in reply to: Aaron Donald just broke J.J. Watt’s all-time grade record, and should be DPOY #36600wvParticipantHe’s kinda like Faulk,
only a DT.w
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