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wvParticipantTy Simpson, apparently has a lot of experience behind bad Olines.
April 26, 2026 at 9:54 pm in reply to: Rams draft grades & assessments from everyone (including us) #163661wvParticipantwvParticipantSeems like that will create a tsunami of great players will hit next year. They can’t stay in college forever.
I read that Ty made 800,000 at Alabama.
According to A.I.
“Miami offered Simpson approximately $6.5 million, with other schools like Tennessee and Ole Miss offering between $4–6.5 million to enter the transfer portal.
NFL Comparison: By entering the 2026 NFL draft, Simpson’s rookie contract with the Los Angeles Rams is projected to be around $25.4 million, with $4.6 million in the first year”
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vwvParticipantI guess its clear now that the Name-Image-Likeness (NIL) money has allowed kids to stay in college and so the later rounds of the draft just arent going to be as good anymore. Maybe no more Pukas in the 6th round, etc.
“last year rounds 6-7 wiped out because of NIL. This year rounds 4-7 wiped out because of NIL”
April 26, 2026 at 4:30 pm in reply to: Rams draft grades & assessments from everyone (including us) #163648wvParticipantMike Greenberg: “Its a terrible pick”
wvParticipantIn fact he may have the best legs of any decent starting qb they’ve had since I first started watching them. Not a Vick, but good enough.
Yeah, i stand corrected on the mobility thing. He’s in the Purdy category as far as running. He’s actually a bit faster than Purdy according to 40 times.
Though, fwiw, the analyst in one of the vids i posted up there said Ty was not very accurate when passing on the run.
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vwvParticipantWhen I first started reading your post, I immediately thought of Brees. But then you mentioned him.
Fwiw Joe Montana was 6’2, 200.
It’s a different era of course but great 6’0 and 6’1 qbs include Bart Starr, Unitas, Fran Tarkenton, Sonny Jurgensen, Len Dawson, Joe Theismann, and Billy Kilmer.
So oh ye, be it known-eth, it has-eth been done-eth.
Yeah, i thought of those golden-agers. Fran had a good career, of course, too. I just dont think we can compare the 70’s guys to todays players. I tend to think of todays era as starting in the 90s, maybe? I dunno.
Back in the old days Roman Gabriel was one of the few tall QBs. He was 6’4 and 220 or so, as i recall. I remember having a magazine back in 1970 or so, with an article about Roman. (i kept it for, like 30 years). The article was about how Roman Gabriel represented the coming age of ‘giant’ quarterbacks. The new prototype.
I also separate out the ‘mobile’ QBs from the pocket guys. I think of Ty as a Pocket QB. A smallish pocket QB in the modern era. So ya got Brees, and….not much else that i can remember from the 90’s on.
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vApril 26, 2026 at 10:57 am in reply to: Rams draft grades & assessments from everyone (including us) #163624wvParticipantGeneral assessment? Hmmmm.
Ty Simpson, Klare, Trost, CJ Daniels, Keenan.
Sigh. Well, there’s not a single player there I’m really excited about.
Like everybody else, I’ll just wait and see, and hope for the best, of course. But I cant remember a McSnead draft that i was less excited about.
Bring on the Undrafted kids. I’d love to see them add a couple special-teams demons.
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vwvParticipantSo Lemon went to the Eagles in that unusual trade with the Cowboys.
In wv-brain, Lemon and Ty are now forever linked.
Like Suh and Bradford, or Goff and Wentz.
I shall keep my eye on Lemon and the Eagles.
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vwvParticipantOr his wife got mad because she found out that day that the Rams intended to draft a quarterback at 13. I can just hear the squabble. “The man I married would have taken a receiver.”
All i know is we now need an ‘angry shark’ emoji around here.
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vwvParticipantBrock Purdy is also 6’1″.
Brock Purdy isn’t Matthew Stafford, but he’s good enough. And if the Rams got Brock Purdy for close to Free, then that’s a W.
The question is: can McVay develop a QB? I would think he will be more patient because he doesn’t want to make the same mistake he already made with Goff, so maybe.
Yeah, and R.Wilson was smallish. There’s been some good ones. But i think the height thing has also limited Wilson and Purdy. I always thought the Rams took advantage of Wilson’s smallishness.
Wilson and Purdy could both RUN pretty effectively too. I dont think that is a big part of Ty’s game, really.
Probably the only modern smallish QB that really was an outlier was Drew Brees. He was a pocket guy and he had the Hall of Fame career. But, man, its just not what ya want. A smallish QB.
As Dominique Foxworthy (who i have a ton of respect for) said: the pick was a big risk. He didnt argue against the pick. Didnt say it was a ‘bad’ pick. Just that it was a big risk. They coulda had a sure thing, like Lemon, and they rolled the dice that next year’s team would be good enough…
Course you can argue ‘anything’ — you can argue it would be a big risk NOT to take a future-QB when you have the chance, blah blah.
If they lose the Super Bowl because Davante has a bad hamstring, I will, of course, be a gigantic pain in the ass.
…I’m still hoping an OBJ type deal is coming down the road.
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vwvParticipantThat’s about as good as it gets.
Okay. She buried my concern.
I do think McVay was upset about something, though. And that’s the first thing he offered as an explanation, that there was something unrelated to the pick that agitated him. The concern about Stafford came out later, and doesn’t add up to me. But there’s a plethora of possibilities. Maybe they were *THIS* close to trading back a couple of slots and getting some bonus as well as getting their guy, and it fell through. Or maybe his wife is mad because he left the milk out on the counter again, and it spoiled, and now the kids have no milk. In fact, that’s what I think I’m going with.
Yeah, when Jordan is in topform she is as good as it gets. She’s always emphasizing her interest in ‘processes.’
Btw, is it…’normal procedure’ to tell your Hall of Fame QB that you are drafting another QB on the DAY of the Draft? I woulda thot they would talk to Stafford about it a month ago.
I dunno what was bothering McVay after the first round pick was made. I just assumed ‘something’ went wrong in the draft. In the past the draft has always seem to fall just right for McSnead. Not this time.
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vApril 25, 2026 at 9:57 pm in reply to: Rams draft grades & assessments from everyone (including us) #163576wvParticipantwvParticipantKlatt on Ty
wvParticipantSchefter says they didnt receive a single call to trade down, so they were stuck at 13.
wvParticipantThe Los Angeles Rams made the decision to trade up in the NFL draft on Saturday, after doing so twice last year. They moved up to the 197th selection, adding Miami Hurricanes wide receiver CJ Daniels.
See, this just PROVES they botched this draft. They could have gotten their future Hall Of Fame franchise QB with that last 7th round pick. But they frittered it away for the WR.
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vwvParticipantTrue. But the point is, with a good defense they wouldn’t need the offense to be #1 every game. We already saw how having the #1 offense didn’t matter against Seattle since the Rams also had what turned out to be the #17 defense.
The defense should be better. Indeed.
They coulda made the offense better with a stud WR. Instead they picked Simpson.
Seattle is right there with the Rams. (Not to mention the Bears, Lions, Packers, 49ers, Eagles…) I think they coulda used another great WR.
Ok, I’ve said my piece on this issue.
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vwvParticipantI thought the Rams had 3 Seventh Round picks? I thot they got two comp picks in the 7th rd. I guess not?
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vwvParticipantBut what if that good-future-QB-pick costs the Rams a Super Bowl this season? What if Davante or Puka go down. (Puka plays like a tasmanian devil, and Davante is old)
Arguably, they just needed the corners. They managed to have the #1 offense in the league last year with the receivers they have–including PN and DA missing time.
In the final 2 games against Seattle, they faced a super bowl defense that was 6th in yards and 1st in points allowed. And in those 2 games averaged–on just offense–534 yards, 32 points, and 0 turnovers.
Their problem was defense, and the weak spot was CB.
Yeah, they fixed their glaring weakness. True. And so they looked at the 13 pick with that in mind and they concluded they didn’t need to add a WR.
I dont agree with that approach. That number one offense could be better with M.Lemon. Especially if there are injuries.
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PFFHis measurables are above the 50th percentile for NFL receivers, and he appears to have long arms, though he is still on the smaller side for an outside receiver. That does not show up in contested situations, however, as he has posted a contested catch rate above 80.0% over the past two seasons, ranking in the 100th percentile.
He lacks true difference-making long speed, but he is quick and sudden in his releases and at the top of routes, allowing him to consistently create separation on intermediate routes. He is not a major factor after the catch, with low percentile production in that area.
Daniels has the experience and release package to line up at all three receiver spots. As a blocker, his slender build can show up against stronger defenders, but he competes with a feisty mentality…
https://www.pff.com/news/draft-pff-2026-nfl-draft-guide-cj-daniels-miami
wvParticipantwvParticipantBut I will say that the Rams arguably DID go for it when the acquired McDuffie with their first round pick, and snagged the other dude whatshisface in free agency.
So they’re sitting there with the 13th pick that they paid very little to acquire. And, as we know, it usually costs a lot to get a good QB. Brady and Purdy are exceptions, but that’s 2 QBs in the past 25 years. You either have to give up a lot of capital, or you have to go through a dark patch as a team.
If Simpson actually develops into Bulger, we will come around to loving this pick.
The algebra is tricky. Lots of unknowns.
Their approach was rational, and forward-thinking, and kinda bold. And yes, Ty Simpson could turn out to be a good QB, down the road.
But what if that good-future-QB-pick costs the Rams a Super Bowl this season? What if Davante or Puka go down. (Puka plays like a tasmanian devil, and Davante is old)
I agree with the Seahawk fans 🙂
I would have prioritized picks that are plug-and-play and make an impact THIS season. Lemon seemed like one of those guys.
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vwvParticipantand the other thing is they still have some cap space too. something like 10 million after signing the rookies. so maybe some surprise signing in the future?
even a trade at some point?
I think they’ll sign a WR at some point. The way Seattle did last year. Somebody who just wants to win a ring.
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vwvParticipanti just watched it. the mechanics issues are worrisome. i guess that can be corrected with coaching? but he also needs live reps too. which he ideally won’t get outside of preseason.
late diagnosing plays? again maybe a reps issue?
the physical problems i don’t have so much of an issue with. he’s not going to outrun defenders.
he looks like a second rounder. i know snead doesn’t put much stock into draft capital. just a means to get a player. i don’t know. i know he’s got fancy mathematicians mathing the outcomes. maybe it makes sense from that point of view? but from where i’m sitting i want another superbowl. any number of injuries could happen. a nacua suspension is not out of the question. an oline injury (although they addressed that later in the draft). adams. or one of the dbs could go down.
stafford is not replaceable. impossible in the near future. very unlikely in the distant future. this is why you got him in the first place. he’s supposed to be the elite qb to get you over the hump like mina kimes said in that video. i don’t think you can math that problem if he goes down. the other ones you can math.
the more i think about it actually the less convinced i become. unless mcvay and the coaching staff find the next steve young in this kid.
I agree with all that.
Questions about the strategy itself. And questions about Ty Simpson as a player.
But again, i get why they went with this approach.
At any rate, we got High-Hopes for this season. When’s the last time there was a consensus around the country that the Rams were favorites to win it all?
Maybe…the year Martz took over? Its been a while.
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vwvParticipanti hate the pick. i’m not sure there’s anything that can convince me otherwise.
i understand the logic. and if it was a better qb or at least a better profile i’d feel more comfortable with the pick. but all due respect to simpson and daniels, he seems more like the next chase daniels than the next brock purdy (who had 46 starts in college).
the only way he sees the field is if stafford goes down in which case it doesn’t matter. the rams are screwed they’re not going to win with a rookie qb who only has 15 starts in college under his belt. it’s not gonna happen. it’s just a bad move. again. i understand the logic but for a better qb.
they shoulda just traded down if possible.
(Check out the vid “why i almost fell in love with simpson”. At about the 10 minute mark he starts the negative stuff on Ty. )
I agree with all you said, there.
Mainly I think it was the wrong approach because I think the Rams window is — one year. I think next season is their entire window. After that, Stafford will probly leave (or start to go down hill). And without prime stafford this team is not gonna beat the elite teams. Also, they are gonna start losing some good players after this season.
I think they will still be playoff contenders, maybe challenge for the division but i dont think they will be one those elite top-four type teams.
So, if you believe the window is just one year — ya go for it, in that one year.
If you dont think the window is one year, then the algebra changes.
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vwvParticipantwvParticipantI think the main thing with this pick, and the guard they took in rnd 3, is plugging up in advance the holes that will be caused by free agency next year. Next year both veteran TEs (Higbee and Parkinson) and 4 of the starting OL will be up for extensions. They can’t sign all 6 of those guys. They will need fresh bodies.
The idea that this draft was all about the 2026 window was obviously wrong.
Stafford is working on a multiple year extension (at least 2 years) and that means the window is open longer.
But come next year, they won’t be able to pay all their draft picks and other acquisitions from 2023-2024. So this draft is about developing replacements.
Well, I dont get why you think the third rounder is a guard? He started all his college games except one at Tackle.
As far as it being wrong that this draft was about the 26 window — I think it SHOULD have been about 2026. I think McSnead was wrong to make it about the future.
I get why they did it, etc. And their approach was totally reasonable and understandable blah blah. I just dont agree with it. Winning a Super Bowl is really really hard, and i think when you have a clear shot at it in Stafford’s possible-last-year or last-healthy-year, i think you take that shot. I think M.Lemon was the pick. I like the tight-end-weapon. And I like the OLineman.
In my time as a ram fan, Simpson is the most intriguing pick i can ever remember the Rams making.
It will be very interesting to see how this season and the Ty Simpson years turn out.
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vwvParticipantcam newton, kyler murray, anthony richardson, mitchell trubisky, and dwayne haskins.
if you expand it to 20 games, it also includes four others. trey lance, mark sanchez, mac jones, and ryan tannehill.
it makes no mention of kurt warner and i didn’t really cross check to verify the accuracy of this answer.
edit. this only includes qbs drafted in the first round which is why warner isn’t on this list.
Ok, well….has any QB ever become a topflight player in the NFL who only had 15 starts in college AND was 6’1 inches tall 🙂
The height bothers me more than the number of starts, actually.
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vwvParticipantHe runs with more authority than Ferguson.
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