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wvParticipantI’ve now had about fifteen minutes to think about this. …and I’d like to be the FIRST to begin the board-war-question: So….who’s better, Aaron Donald or Myles Garrett?
I shall take my leave now.
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vwvParticipantWaiting for WV to tell us how scared he is of Micah Parsons and Jordan Love
I am frightened of La-Floor, as well. 5-0 against McVay.
One good thing about the trade is Myles didnt go to the Eagles. I would have been peeing myself if the Eagles added Garrett to that green-defense.
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vwvParticipanti think verse is a solid player. and i like the guy. he just brings a great attitude and his effort is always there. but garrett is on a different level. he brings the same intangibles but his physicality is off the charts. he’s an aaron donald level player. he’s a difference maker. just not sure verse will ever be there.
I ‘do’ feel bad for Verse. Hollywood to Cleve-land. I dont think he will be happy. …is anyone happy in cleveland?
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vwvParticipanthey. now we just need news that donald is coming out of retirement.
I would like Merlin and Deacon to come out of retirement as well. Maybe Coy Bacon.
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vwvParticipantGarrett will be 31 in December. How much longer will he be a top DE? I think this trade is a big gamble and deals with a position of strength, rather than upgrading a weakness.
They gave up a lot for a player on the downside of his career, IMO.
Yeah, I just heard about it 2 minutes ago. Haven’t had time to digest it, but my very first thought was ‘Garrett is how old?…’ There’s a reason the Rams agonized over giving up Verse.
I did say the other day, I found Verse to be somewhat immature. I dunno what Myles Garrett is like in the locker-room. I hope hes a good leader.
Seattle fans were happy about the Ty Simpson decision. Something tells me they are not happy about this decision.
The important thing is…now Aaron Donald can come out of retirement and we can revisit the days of Merlin and Deacon 🙂
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vwvParticipantDidnt see this on the board. Havenstein.
“I’m basically offsides everytime”
wvParticipantwvParticipantSee, this is how a team gets soft after a Super Bowl win.
wvParticipantZach Brandon@MVP_Mindset
Matthew Stafford shares how his QB coach, Dave Ragone, once studied his performance after turnovers and sacks..
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The key is not wasting energy arguing with reality and training yourself to respond and re-engage quickly.…
Hmmmm. Well, i’ve spent my entire life arguing with reality.
I see no reason to try and get along with reality.
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vwvParticipantIn the lil-vids I’ve seen of Puka lately he seems…different. I think maybe there’s some hope he’s grown up a bit. Probly not, but maybe.
We’ll see. Remains to be seen. Rome wasnt built in a day. Time will tell.
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vwvParticipantTop 5 Rams?
(Comments mentioned Faulk, Slater, Pace, Gabriel, Fears, Crazy Legs, Holt, Flipper, Cromwell…Fred Dryer )wvParticipantThe Ferragamo bomb to Ron Smith reminded me a bit of the Warner pass to Ike to win the Ring. They both got clobbered as they were throwing. Kearse was whacking Warner and Randy White was mauling Ferragamo.
The Ferragamo pass to Waddy was beautifully feathered in among a gazillion defenders, but Vince had all day to throw. The pass to Smith was a whole different kind of Quarterbacking.
Ferragamo will always be a mystery. Had some elite moments in the clutch.
wvParticipantOld Ram fans remember the pass to Waddy, but how many remember the TD pass to Ron Smith:
(5:50 on the vid)wvParticipantFerragamo to Waddy (Rams vs Cowboys 1979 NFC Divisional Playoff Game)
Its important to watch Ferragamo’s pass every now and then.
wvParticipantI like Nate, but geezus he doesnt take a breath. Old Hacker, he is not.
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vwvParticipantThe story of Harambe (Swahili word means ‘working together, pulling together’)
Do not watch the bit that starts at the 46:22 mark. You have been advised.
wvParticipantwvParticipantThey’re being American media people… This vid is about finding a bland consensus that avoids noticing the truth about this.
Exactly.
Though, i have a certain sympathy for people like D.Foxworthy. I know he cant stand MAGA-policies etc, but he wants to stay in the big-money-limelight. And to do ‘that’ you have to sell out and bland-ify, minimize or outright-ignore certain topics.
Etc and so forth
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vwvParticipantDominique Foxworthy choosing his words carefully, on the Jaxson Dart / Trump thing:
wvParticipantScott Kacsmar@ScottKacsmar
People want you to believe Brady was winning SBs during his statistical peak (2007-12). He didn’t.
Brady’s stats are probably pretty odd (i have never looked at them) because he played so LONG that his career covers different eras with different rules. I dont remember when all the various rules changes took place. But they all made it easier to pile up gaudy stats as well as stay healthy.
I think about this every time some media-celebrity decides to tell me who the best QBs in NFL history are. I mean, just imagine if Roger Staubach played under the rules Mahomes gets to play under. Or Gabriel, etc etc.
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vwvParticipantSo does this mean Jaxson Dart is a racist? Might lead to some rough sacks.
wvParticipant49er history
May 22, 2026 at 3:13 pm in reply to: Stafford signs extension (thread for contract stuff only) #164045wvParticipantStafford contract
wvParticipantA strange sight, five million years ago…
wvParticipantDov Kleiman@NFL_DovKleiman
Mina Kimes’s Top 10 QBs in the NFL:1) Patrick Mahomes
2) Josh Allen
3) Lamar Jackson
4) Joe Burrow
5) Drake Maye
6) Justin Herbert
7) Dak Prescott
8) Jordan Love
9) Caleb Williams
10) Matthew StaffordHmmmm. Assuming all are healthy. And assuming its just for one season.
I probably go:
1-2 Tied. Josh Allen / Mahomes
3-4 Tied. Stafford / Burrow
5 Lamar
6-10 Tied. Dak, Caleb, Love, Herbert, Goff.
11 Drake Maye (the playoffs exposed him, imho)I have always thought Mahomes was in a league all his own, but the last two years, I think he’s ‘dropped’ to….a tie…for the best in the NFL.
I also think all 11 could win a Super Bowl, given the right supporting cast, and given some luck.
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vwvParticipantNot normally a dunk-appreciator, but this one….
wvParticipantI’m still pissed-off about the 1985 playoffs. Rams v Bears.
I’m not sure ANY strategy would have given the Rams a win against that Bear defense. (maybe the best defense ever) But i always blamed John Robinson for the high-school-offense approach he relied on. Basically a handful of simple running plays to Dickerson and nothing else.
I just cant picture Bill Walsh attacking the Bears that way. Zero creativity.
Rams were never in the game. Not for one second were they in that game.
If nothing else i would have moved the damn pocket. Rolled the QB out.
Ah well. I thought about the 85 game, last season when the Rams nipped the Bears in Chicago. Tough place to play. Chicago. Philly. Green Bay. Home field matters.
wvParticipantRams ‘C’ grade for Matthew Stafford trade aged horribly
Five years after the Los Angeles Rams “lost” trade for Matthew Stafford, the deal looks wildly different now.s…I didnt realize there had been people who gave the rams a low grade on that trade.
Maybe i’ve just forgotten how it was viewed.But I do remember Kyle Shanahan wanted Stafford.
Just seemed like an obvious upgrade to everyone on this board, anyway.
Goff is a B+. Maybe even an A-. But Stafford is an A or an A+.
I never saw Bob Waterfield or Norm Van Brocklin, but Stafford is the best Ram QB I’ve seen.
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Top Tier: Stafford, WarnerSecond Tier: Gabriel, Everett, Bulger, Goff. (Trent Green)
Third Tier: Jaworski, James Harris, Ferragamo, Chris Chandler.
Fourth Tier: Pat Haden, Tony Banks, Dieter Brock.
I dunno what to do with John Hadl. He was very good, but he only had one full year that i can remember with the Rams and he was a bit past his prime.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Los_Angeles_Rams_starting_quarterbacks
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vwvParticipantmurmurations
wvParticipantI get McVay’s regret about how he handled things with Goff. However, had he been transparent with Goff and told him that the Rams were going to explore trading him and then the trade didn’t come to fruition, how would that have impacted their relationship moving forward? I’m not trying to defend McVay, as it doesn’t even seem like he’s defending himself in this case. It’s just something I wonder about. It seems like a difficult and maybe even risky conversation to have with your starting qb.
I wonder if the Goff experience affected McVay’s handling of the AJ Brown / Davante Adams situation.
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