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wvParticipantSD moving to LA is like the Rams moving to Columbia
yeah. not exactly like moving half way across the continent.
See he totally lost me with that.
I thought he meant Columbia the nation,
and… i was mulling that over.w
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wvParticipantBtw, so much of this anger in St.Louis
is exactly what the fans in LA went
through back in the 90’s. I mean
you can go back and read the letters
and articles from the LA times, etc.http://articles.latimes.com/1994-05-04/news/mn-53698_1_rams-move
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wvParticipantThe most despicable part of this was SK’s scorching of STL on the way out. He was “a Missouri guy” dedicated to finding a way to stay in STL … until there was a chance to build a stadium in L.A. He’s poisoned the well here, and now all the owners know it would be a horrible situation in STL if he stays put with the Rams. The lack of fan support is a self-fulfilled prophecy. He’s such an asshole, though, that Spanos won’t play ball with him. It will take an extraordinary amount of carrot-and-stick diplomacy to get another owner to go in with SK on a deal. The guy has absolutely no ethics. He wants what he wants when he wants it.
I actually do think that the Raiders to St. Louis is a potential solution. There is just no way that Oakland’s using public funds, and the Raiders have been trying to get a new stadium for decades. I would say that, somehow, the Raiders could make use of the STL stadium plan.
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Well, I don’t think he’s any more of an asshole than Georgia
was. Or Rosenbloom. Or most of them ‘Owners.’Georgia was a hero to a lot of St.Louis folk. Why?
Cause she screwed over the LA fans.Kroenke is an asshole to a lot of St.Louis folk.
Cause he wants to move the team, just
like Georgia did — for more money.I just think identifying with an ‘owner‘
is probly, maybe, not a good idea for fans.I guess my point is — if Kroenke is an asshole,
so was Georgia. But i didnt hear St.Louis
fans saying “Georgia is an asshole for moving
the team away from LA, to St.Louis”Ya know.
Owners are billionaire Cthulhus.
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vJanuary 12, 2016 at 8:55 am in reply to: Peter King reviews the last playoff games and previews the next set #37017
wvParticipantHis foot struck the ball underneath the laces anyway.
He shanked it.
And then later, he and the Vikings
announcers cried.Dont forget the crying
part.w
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wvParticipantThey ain’t winning the NFC this year.
Somethin aint quite right with them this year.The Vikes were mediocre and they barely escaped.
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wvParticipantWentz sounds good to me. I doubt
he’s around at 15.w
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wvParticipantI don’t think he’s that special. I think he gets points for how he used Barron after Ogletree went down. The run D struggled at times even with a great D line. I think maybe he gets a B grade.
Is it a ‘great line’ though, without Quinn?
Brockers aint great. Simms? Hayes? Fairley?
Solid players?
I dunno if its really a ‘great line’
without Q.w
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wvParticipantWord on Green Bay is that they not only miss Nelson, their OL has been very banged up. When guys are not out, they’re playing with injuries, and it looks out of sync. It’s like the 2014 Rams in that regard.
Washington, on the other hand, relies on its OL as a team strength, and their line is pretty healthy.
It’s the old story, and it’s why Cousins looks good and Rodgers doesn’t.
Well if it stays close, my money
is still on Rogers.Point taken though. Earlier
in the year folks were arguing
that A.Rogers THE greatest QB of ALL TIME.
Not so much this last month.w
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wvParticipantBaylor QB: “Honestly, I wish I’d done a little bit more as far as being proactive to get into a pro style [offense],” he said, singling out the need to decipher fronts or coverages. “It was things I have never seen before.”
——————-I remember reading how Russell Wilson specifically looked
for a college that ran a PRO offense. He wanted to be ready
for the pro-game.It really surprises me that more QBs dont show the
foresight that RW showed.w
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wvParticipantI see that the Vikings handed back an unwanted win to Seattle.
It all comes down to making plays. Or, making them when you need them.
I am the one who came up with that cliche btw…so you heard it here first.

I was disappointed those two teams
didnt go into 47 overtimes with
both collapsing of physical exhaustion
and spiritual and existential ennui,
each player, giving up football
forever.The Vikings have never been known
for winning the big game have they.w
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wvParticipantLots of great OLinemen.
I;ve said this before but it bears repeating.
There is at least one Ram lineman in the pro bowl every single season from 1967 until 1990. That’s 24 consecutive years and 12 different players. In fact the 68 line had 4 pro bowlers, as did the 78 line and the 85 line.
I wonder if the Rams next pro-bowl OLineman
is on the team now? Hav seems like a solid
guy but not probowl material.w
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wvParticipantWell I’m only gonna include QB’s I’ve
actually watched. So that starts in 68,
and leaves off the two greats from the 50s :Tier 1 Kurt
Tier 2 Roman
Tier 3
T.Green, Everett, James Harris,
Jaworski, Ferragamo.Bradford dont make the top three
tiers. Or Haden.Roman’s is difficult to judge because,
he really didn’t have great WRs
or great RBs, like Kurt did. He might
belong in Tier 1…or Tier3. Hard to say.If you start in the late 60’s like i did,
the Rams just dont have a Great, storied history
of QB play. You have Kurt…and then a bunch
of mediocre qbs, and some pretty good ones. But
it aint like Joe Montana, Steve Young, John Brodie…RB’s and Defensive Players looks better.
Probably the best group is the OLinemen.
Lots of great OLinemen.w
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wvParticipantIntent, that is subjective, right? Don’t make me write a passive construction.
Well ‘intent’ is a concept full of nuances.
There’s “heat of passion” intent where you hit
the gardener in the head with a lamp. (discovering your
spouse in bed with the gardener)
And then there’s the kind of deliberate intent
where you slowly poison the gardener over
a period of months.I know Burfect ‘intended’ to hit the WR,
but i think it was one of the split-second
‘micro-intent’ things. Its tough to coach that
out of DBs. The league is trying though.
But there’s always gonna be hits like that
from time to time — that one was really
bad, but so was the the hit by McCleod,
i think it was, on the sideline last year.
He almost kilt the guy.I just dont know that I’d call the McCleod
hit much different from the Burfect hit.
McCleod didnt hit the guy in the head,
but it was still a dangerous hit on a
defenseless player. I dunno. Tricky stuff.My sister’s family lives in Cincy. They
blame everything on Marvin Lewis.w
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wvParticipantI dunno. I dont think it was
much different than the hit by
the Ram DB on the Viking QB.
I think its a penalty for sure
but I suspect its one of those split-second
micro ‘decisions’ thats not really a decision,
exactly. Just instinct. Competitive instinct.Still its a penalty for sure. Coulda
killed the guy.That one will be shown in meetings for
decades. What not to do.w
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wvParticipantWell the Burfict hit was just
one of those bang-bang plays. They happen,
when yer flyin around out there.I disagree about the Burfict hit. He was head-hunting.
Well what makes you think that?
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wvParticipantWell, lotsa folks seem to think he’s
a great offensivie Mind.
We’ll see if he’s a leader of men.w
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wvParticipantWell the Burfict hit was just
one of those bang-bang plays. They happen,
when yer flyin around out there.The stupid play was simply
the Fumble. You cant fumble
in that situation. Ever.
That was the Stupid play of the Year.Aside from stupid fumbles though,
i think it was stupid of the Bengals
to play without their No.1 QB.
Its stupid to play a playoff game with
a no.2 QB.I believe I read somewhere this is the 6th
team in a ROW the Steelers have played
that was starting a backup QB.
Sooner or later they are gonna come
up against a guy like Brady.w
vJanuary 8, 2016 at 5:15 pm in reply to: Kroenke Building Stadium No Matter What (relocation thread) #36854
wvParticipantFascinating. Its like a mini-series.
Like Shogun or somethin.w
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wvParticipantUgh. There’s zero guarantee he
is on “the road to recovery.”Q stands for Question mark,
now.It took a quarter of a century
for the Rams to find an equivalent
to Merlin and Deacon — and we might
have lost that magic after one year.w
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wvParticipantI just dont see how people
can blame Snead for anything.
I dunno that he gets an “A”
but he gets at least a “B”
I’d think.And if by chance Mannion
turns out to be a no.1
he gets an A+w
vYou know that I have gone through drafts of good drafting teams, and drafting well means hitting on around 40+%…to the mid/high 40s. Anything much beyond the high 40s is just unusually good, beyond the “good” norm into the “rare and superb” tier.
According to my count, Snead has hit on 46%.
That’s not a “B” that’s a solid “A” IMO. Especially when you factor in guality, which includes Donald, plus as I said 2 top 10 corners in the same draft (without spending a 1st round pick).
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Enh. I dunno. Have you factored in the
fact that Snead has had more first and second
round picks than other GMs ?
I mean the RG3 trade gave him
some cant-miss options.w
vJanuary 8, 2016 at 11:15 am in reply to: Bucs fire Lovie, Coughlin resigns, which naturally leads to Fisher discussion #36821
wvParticipantWell as for the race issue, i think
its interesting. All the owners are white, I think,
aren’t they? So when coaches like Garrett and Fisher
get long runs, its understandable that some people
would question just how the good-ole-boy system works.Nothing wrong with raising that issue, and
conversing about it.As far as all this anti-fisher talk lately
that scolds the media for somehow liking him
more than they should — I dont even know
how to process that.Whats missing from all these ‘national’ celebrity
rants is, any serious break-down of what
happened during each of his seasons, and why
things either went well or didnt. They just
count the winning seasons and the losing
seasons and they call that analysis.w
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wvParticipantI just dont see how people
can blame Snead for anything.
I dunno that he gets an “A”
but he gets at least a “B”
I’d think.And if by chance Mannion
turns out to be a no.1
he gets an A+w
vJanuary 8, 2016 at 8:32 am in reply to: From the archives: Kroenke's pledge to keep the Rams in St. Louis #36811
wvParticipantStan’s getting excoriated in the press here, by everybody. Business leaders, government leaders, fans, media … it’s what you’d expect, I guess. There is some very strong vitriol, and most of it comes from that scathing attack on STL as a viable market. I don’t see how Stan can show his face in Missouri again, not that he plans to.
Well, in a diabolical way that works ‘for’ him.
I mean, he can argue to the NFL that relations
are so poisoned and hostile now in St.Louis that
he cant possibly be expected to stay.w
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wvParticipantI didnt think he actually showed
that much before he got hurt.
I didnt see any special-talent shown
or an ability to win contested catches, etc.I dunno though. I wonder about Ray Sherman
and what his firing and replacement will mean
to the team. …maybe Ray is the reason
they chose Quick, who knows…w
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wvParticipantWell, he’s just kinda stating the obvious.
Nothing wrong with that.Heck i think Mack is harder on the NFL
than that guy.w
vJanuary 7, 2016 at 6:34 pm in reply to: 101, 1/7 … Mike Mayock (on playoffs & Foles), & Martz (on relocation & Rams O) #36775
wvParticipantMartz: “personnel is the life blood…….In today’s NFL the front office wants to micro manage… try to tell you who to hire…”
Martz may be remembering Jay Zygmunt
among other things.Martz emphasized his offense was much different
than the ‘spread’ offense popular today. He said
he likes what Sean Payton does in New Orleans…w
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wvParticipantwhere a Bonobo took care of a sick bird
and nursed it back to health,
thereby…proving…something.Bonobos tend to be more social and empathetic than chimps. Chimps, meanwhile, are aggressive and violent.
So what it proves is that bonobos evolved differently than chimps.
So then Chimps would make good special teams
coaches? Maybe the Rams have too many
bonobos ?w
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wvParticipantThey had 3 JT podcasts. I picked out good one.
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Well…now i have some inkling
of why they call them ‘pod’ casts.They just dont seem to be big on context,
analysis or nuances. They do love
to jump up and down and shout
“we didnt make the playoffs, again !”Very insightful.
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v curmudgeonJanuary 7, 2016 at 5:27 pm in reply to: Bucs fire Lovie, Coughlin resigns, which naturally leads to Fisher discussion #36768
wvParticipantI think they are going to trade Foles and draft Cook. Cook had a bad playoff game and is falling a bit. Treadwell’s draft status is probably linked to his 40 time at the combine. We should interview all the OCs that out coached GW.
Well, I think we’d all love a Foles trade-away.
But who is gonna want him? I mean would ‘you’
give a 7th round pick for him? I wouldn’t.I imagine the Rams would have to agree to pick
up half his salary or somethin.I dont want anymore players named Cook.
The last good cook who played in the NFL
was the Bengals Greg Cook. Now ‘there’
was an old-school football player.w
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