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ZooeyModeratorYeah, I am a little disappointed the Rams didn’t put them away. They moved the ball at will the first couple of drives, but couldn’t get it in the end zone, and settled for field goals. And they had a chance at the end of put the game completely out of reach, and didn’t finish.
Still there was never any concern that the Rams would lose, either. The Rams had the upper hand the entire game, and never really let Denver get in it. It felt like the Rams won by more than 3 points.
But it was 25 degrees in Denver, the Broncos had their back against the wall, and really needed a win. But the Rams got the W. In spite of the Chiefs’ loss, they can’t feel good about where their season is headed now.
Fingers crossed for the injury report.
But …damn…I said at the time that I would be happy if Kupp was back for the playoffs, and the day ended more promising than that. I haven’t seen any update since the game, but I was stunned that he came back on the field. That has to be a good sign.
ZooeyModeratorThank you, guys.
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Goff analysis: one guy’s view
That was a good read. And I buy it.
I think Goff is on a trajectory to be the greatest Rams QB ever. This guy is good. This guy is special. Even if he doesn’t know where the sun sets. This is a Montana kind of guy. He may be good at nothing else his entire life, but he is good at football.
ZooeyModeratorI wouldn’t take anyone over Goff right now. Love the way he throws…. no wobble…. gets to the perfect spot and the footbal is so easy to catch. That kind of pinpoint Accuracy is hard to find.
Yeah, he’s been better than I expected. I was hoping to see improvement this year, you know. Growth. Some people warned of a slip backwards.
He has been pretty close to flawless.
He doesn’t have the strongest arm in the league, but he can heave it 60 yards accurately. I mean…that’s good enough, right?
ZooeyModeratorIt is supposed to snow 1 inch on Sunday in Denver.
Perfect conditions for the Rams who always have to play in 80-degree weather.
Also, my next door neighbor has a regulation flagpole in his front yard…I mean…one of these 60′ jobs…and he flies his Broncos flag on it during football season. He has a billiard table with the Donkey logo on it, and two TVs in the room, mounted in the corners.
So…yeah.
Rams by 20.
ZooeyModeratorTwo things (if I may).
1. Marcus Peters was beat by a lot more than a strained leg on those TD passes. That was not the injury alone. He blew it. Dunno more than that, but I do know that much.
2. Jared Goff is a very good QB.
ZooeyModeratorthe 99 rams team had great special teams units. didn’t they have that coach who loved to run around training camp with something strapped to his back making loud noises?
Frank “Crash” Ganz. I think.
ZooeyModeratorOf course there are going to be tough games. They WON, though. They could have lost that game, and it really would not have been a big shame, and it really wouldn’t have hurt them that much. And tough games are important, too. The Rams need the experience and confidence that comes with these kinds of games because the playoffs are going to be tough as always. They need some gut checks along the way. To stay hungry. I’m good with it.
ZooeyModeratorSeattle played tough. They were able to stick with their gameplan, and I think it’s the best strategy to beat the Rams. Run…run…run…play action. Had the Rams scored a TD on that early drive rather than suffer the pachinko interception, it might have forced Seattle out of the strategy earlier.
Seattle played well. Run defense got gouged.
Goff is good.
ZooeyModeratorCooks and Kupp both got concussed. Were the hits dirty?
Kupp was just a head-hitting-the-turf thing.
Cooks hit was marginal, but Cooks lowered his head right before impact, so I’m not sure it was a penalty. Close…but not flagrant, imo.
ZooeyModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
Looks like it might be a wet one tomorrow between #Rams and #Seahawks with rainin the forecast
Good. That will slow down the Seahawks’ defense. Make it even easier for the Rams to score.
ZooeyModeratorRobert Quinn the top rusher. It’s too bad the Rams couldn’t hang onto him.
ZooeyModeratorYeah. But I don’t care.
I never liked tackling with intent to harm It’s a goddamn game. And I get that the players have zillions of dollars at stake, but I just want to see good football games, and when the stars are out because of injury, it compromises the quality of the games. And I love strong defense, too. Grew up on the Rams.
But, seriously, I’m not a fan of tackling with intent to injure. That’s just stupid, imo.
ZooeyModeratorWhen things are going poorly, hope is all that you have, so I love it when opposing fans still have hope prior to the game.
Because as the game unfolds I know that hope is draining away.
Then they have nothing.
And I laugh.
I never get enough of crowd shots. Nothing quite like seeing a couple of people who spent an hour putting on paint and strange costumes sitting with slumped shoulders, looking like they got caught for an hour in a downpour.
ZooeyModeratorDo you think they have a “What Rams fans are saying…” over on the Seattle board?
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ZooeyModeratorI’ll just add this.
According to Football Outsiders, the Rams have a much greater chance of getting a BYE week in the playoffs than any other team has of even making the playoffs.
ZooeyModeratorI can’t see how Ogbo is going to matter this year. He is a rookie who missed all of camp.
ZooeyModeratorAnd CBS didn’t move them up the rankings, either. They still have the Rams only one notch above the 2nd ranked team which is ridiculous.
October 2, 2018 at 12:24 am in reply to: do the Rams have a prayer against Seattle in Seattle? #91779
ZooeyModeratorRams and Chiefs are the only 2 undefeated teams at this point.
Preedictshun:
By the time that game rolls around, we will have forgotten this bit of trivia.
ZooeyModeratorBarron, Zuerlein, Natson.
I have no complaints about Ficken, btw. He hasn’t cost the Rams a game, or anything, and I appreciate his effort. He isn’t as good as Zuerlein, but…duh.
https://www.therams.com/news/barron-zuerlein-natson-all-may-return-in-week-5
While head coach Sean McVay shared disappointing injury news on Monday with outside linebacker Dominique Easley undergoing knee surgery, he also had good news to report on a few players.
McVay noted that inside linebacker Mark Barron, kicker Greg Zuerlein, and returner JoJo Natson all have a chance to play against the Seahawks this week.
While Barron participated in Los Angeles’ walk-thru sessions throughout training camp, he was unable to participate in the vast majority of the club’s practices in the first quarter of the regular season. Barron was listed as a limited participant in the final season of Week 4. And now it looks as if he may be able to play against Seattle.
“We’re encouraged. We’re looking forward to seeing how he progresses this week. And there’s a possibility he could be ready to go. That’s something that we’re going to evaluate as the week progresses,” McVay said. “But this was kind of always a target date that we had set to really get a chance to truly evaluate him, knowing that we had those four games in, really, a short time span. So this week provides an opportunity to evaluate him. And if we can get Mark back on the field, we’ll feel good about that.”
Barron was on the field for Monday’s practice during the portion open to the media.
Returner JoJo Natson was practicing as well. He’s recovering from hand surgery, but McVay said he has a chance to suit up against Seattle.
“There’s a possibility,” McVay said. “He had a good surgery. It is on that left hand, so his dominant hand of how he holds the football is with that right [hand]. But we’ll see as the week goes with him as well.”
Zuerlein, however, was not spotted on the field for Monday’s practice. But the head coach said Zuerlein was able successfully complete a recent workout.
“I think there’s a chance, also, that Greg could be ready to go this week. So that’s something that’s very encouraging,” McVay said. “He had a workout yesterday, did a great job. Like anything else, got a little bit fatigued towards the end. But there is a possibility that Greg could be ready to go.”
“Until you really get a little bit further into the week with Greg, with Mark — those are things that will be evaluated and will certainly affect how we go about our 46 and who’s going to be active on gamdday.”
There is some urgency in particular for the club’s kicking position. During his conference call last Friday, McVay said the club would have to evaluate that spot. Through two games in Zuerlein’s stead, Sam Ficken has missed a pair of field goals — one from 46 yards against the Chargers, and another from just 28-yards out against the Vikings last Thursday.
“Certainly we’ve got to be better in that area when we get a chance to go up 13 in a game that’s been back and forth. Those are plays that we have to be able to make and make them consistently,” McVay said on Friday. “Unfortunately, that hasn’t been the case the last couple weeks, but every decision we make is something that we discuss as a staff.”
Ficken has, however, connected on a 34-yard field goal and all 10 of his extra-point attempts.
Zuerlein converted 4-of-5 field goals and three extra points in Week 1 at Oakland — including a 55-yard field goal off the Oakland Coliseum infield dirt. His 158 points scored led the league in 2017, with 38 field goals and 44 extra points.
ZooeyModerator3 of his 5 TDs had Anthony Barr in coverage. He is officially my favorite Vikings player.
October 1, 2018 at 5:50 pm in reply to: do the Rams have a prayer against Seattle in Seattle? #91763
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ZooeyModeratorKavanaugh on Patriot act:https://mises.org/files/judge-andrew-napolitano-brett-kavanaugh-and-patriot-act
Thing is, and il jus keep sayin it — Trump will just appoint someone else who shares the same views, and who hasnt been a sexual-abuser.
So while it will be nice that this prick isnt confirmed, it wont stop the trump-policies from moving right along…
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vYes. But the longer it takes, the better. This Double Indemnity case coming up this week is huge. Vital. If the SCOTUS considers that with the 8 current members, Mueller can still squeeze Trump’s lieutenants. If Kavanaugh gets in there, it becomes law of the land that Trump can legally just wipe out criminal investigations into his circle, basically. That’s on the table right NOW.
Secondly…if they defeat Kavanaugh, they may be able to defer another nomination until post-election, and if the Dems get control of the Senate by some miracle, they can force Trump to put forward someone less radical. They will still have a 5-4 majority on the court for the next 20 years, but Kavanaugh is a real life textbook fascist, and anything is better than that.
ZooeyModeratorI watched Act I live, but I had tickets to another event Thursday, and didn’t get to see the second Act until last night. I took the pleasure of rewatching Act I while I was at it.
So…Goff…of whom I already had a high opinion, and expected to enjoy watching get even better…that was absurd. That was ridiculous. We have ourselves a QB. I wanted to rate him Top Ten at the beginning of the year, but in reviewing a list of all QBs in the league, I think I couldn’t honestly put him above 12 or 13 IIRC. I don’t watch a lot of other games, so I really can’t make informed comparisons to other guys (apart from SFO which I am forced to see portions of throughout the year). But I’ve seen a lot of games over the years, and a lot of Rams games. And Goff is a Real QB. Very real. His accuracy and velocity are just nonsense.
Two TD throws stood out in particular to me. The first TD pass to Gurley…I’ve watched that several times now, and I still don’t know how he got it in there. Gurley had a clear step, but Barr was in the way. I just can’t see a straight line from Goff to Gurley no matter how many times I see that. It must have been a curveball. The other throw was to Kupp in the corner of the end zone in double coverage. A dart thrown about 30 yards while he was on the run into a tight window. Both live and last night I was struck by Aikman calling it a great catch. That ball was right THERE. The catch was routine. The pass was incredible.
On defense, well…that was less impressive. Peters seemed to get burned several times. Probably more times in this game than he has all season up to now. Combination of a good offense and calf injury, I suppose, but I hope it was the calf, and he will be better next week. I think we are all hoping to see more sacks in the future. The LBs are still pretty green, and I hope their play improves each week because they are mediocre at best, seems to me.
Anyway. Any victory is a good victory, especially over the Vikings.
ZooeyModeratornever mind. used my mad research skills.
ZooeyModeratorThe following is a post from a reddit forum called “LawSchool.” I found it while fact-checking a meme on Brian Hundley, the second case on this list:
In one of his earliest opinions, Jane Doe v. DC, 489 F.3d 376 (D.C. Cir. 2007), Judge Kavanaugh overruled U.S. District Judge Henry Kennedy’s preliminary injunction, 374 F.Supp.2d 107 (D.D.C. 2005) and later summary judgment and permanent injunction, 232 F.R.D. 18 (D.D.C. 2005) and said that even when a severely intellectually disabled person expresses that they do not want an unnecessary elective surgery, the government can still impose that surgery against their wishes without violating constitutional or statutory rights.
Brian Hundley was a 41-year old graduate of Howard University School of Dentistry studying for his boards. He was sitting in his car, unarmed, when a 6’3”, 204-pound off- duty police officer in street clothes ordered him to get out, and in short order shot and killed him with his 9mm Glock. The officer said he shot Brian because he moved his hand behind his back, but the jury specifically rejected that story in a special interrogatory verdict, and found for Brian’s surviving loved ones. In Hundley v. DC, 494 F.3d 1097 (D.C. Cir. 2007), however, Judge Kavanaugh overruled the jury and found for the officer. The opinion describes the facts from the officer’s point of view, id., despite the jury rejecting the officer’s story. As we have already been taught as 1Ls, in a situation like this, the judge is supposed to be deferential to the jury and state the facts in a light favorable to sustaining the jury’s verdict. But this early opinion was just one of Judge Kavanaugh’s regular departures from federal rules and constitutional standards.
Seventeen-year old Antonio Hester was sentenced to a maximum of ten years in prison as a minor. He had a learning disability, and DC public schools, which had been providing him special education for years, promised to continue to provide those services while he was incarcerated in Maryland, or, if they were not allowed into the prison, to provide compensatory services after his release. The Maryland prison did prevent DC from entering to provide Antonio with services, however, and DC then refused to provide services after release. U.S. District Judge Gladys Kessler held that DC had backed out of a consent decree and ordered the school district to provide Antonio with compensatory services. 433 F.Supp.2d 71 (D.D.C. 2006). Judge Kavanaugh disagreed, however, and not only reversed summary judgment but – glossing over a factual dispute he had with the district court (not the job of an appellate judge) and Judge Kessler’s legal analysis – directed judgment against Antonio, erasing any chance of educational relief. Hester v. DC, 505 F.3d 1283 (D.C. Cir. 2007).
Judge Kavanaugh is no friend to liberty. In U.S. v. Bullock, 510 F.3d 342 (D.C. Cir. 2007) Kavanaugh justified ordering a person out of his car, detaining him, and searching his crotch area and under his pants by saying that the police had a “reasonable suspicion” that the car was stolen because the person “could not produce registration and could not name the car’s owner,” 510 F.3d at 345–46. But the arrestee had given the car owner’s first name and his own driver’s license, and the police had confirmed that the driver’s license was clean and the car had never been reported missing or stolen. Judge Kavanaugh’s opinion upheld the arrestee’s 12-year prison sentence for possession of crack cocaine. Judge Kavanaugh consistently rules for the government in search-and-seizure. U.S. v. Glover, 681 F.3d 411 (D.C. Cir. 2012) (warrantless entry into house & a later search warrant lacking probable cause), U.S. v. Washington, 559 F.3d 573 (D.C. Cir. 2009) (giving deference to “aggressive traffic patrols” in “high crime areas”), U.S. v. Spencer, 530 F.3d 1003 (D.C. Cir. 2008) (permitting search of home), U.S. v. Askew, 529 F.3d 1119 (D.C. Cir. 2008) (dissenting from en banc opinion) (allowing police officers to partially unzip man’s jacket without consent after a pat down and later, after man was not identified by witness, to fully unzip the jacket).
When Judge Kavanaugh has ruled for a criminal defendant on a point of law, he has specifically noted that it made little to no material difference in the outcome for the defendant. U.S. v. Smith, 640 F.3d 358, 361 (D.C. Cir. 2011) (“The vacatur and remand of the felon-in-possession count does not affect Smith’s term of imprisonment”). Hamdan v. United States, 696 F.3d 1238, 1257, 1257 n.1 (D.C. Cir. 2012), overruled by Al Bahlul v. United States, 767 F.3d 1 (D.C. Cir. 2014) (“Hamdan was transferred in late 2008 to Yemen and then released there . . . . Our judgment would not preclude detention of Hamdan until the end of U.S. hostilities against al Qaeda[,] [n]or . . . any future military commission charges against Hamdan. . . [,] [n]or . . . appropriate criminal charges in civilian court.”); US v. Bostick, 791 F.3d 127, 162 (D.C. Cir. 2015) (“We affirm the judgments of conviction . . . . two of the defendants . . . are entitled to vacatur . . . and to resentencing under the advisory Sentencing Guidelines. . . The [life] sentence of the remaining defendant . . . is affirmed. We also remand for . . . technical corrections . . . .”); US v. Williams, 784 F.3d 798, 804 (D.C. Cir. 2015) (“We affirm the judgment of the District Court except that, consistent with this Court’s ordinary practice in these circumstances, we remand the case so that the District Court may address Williams’s claim of ineffective assistance of counsel in the first instance.”); US v. Nwoye, 824 F.3d 1129, 1133–34 (D.C. Cir. 2016) (“In 2013, after the termination of her supervised release, Nwoye filed a motion to vacate her conviction . . . [w]e reverse the judgment of the District Court and remand for further proceedings.”) (note that this case has been upheld as evidence of Judge Kavanaugh’s sympathy for criminal defendants and women; it should be noted that Judge Tatel had already dissented from the court’s affirmance of the conviction years earlier, 663 F.3d 460 (D.C. Cir. 2011), and Judge Kavanaugh’s ruling happened after the defendant had completed her sentence – and he nonetheless said the case was “close.”); US v. Burnett, 827 F.3d 1108, 1112 (D.C. Cir.) (“We affirm the judgments of conviction and sentence in all respects, except that we vacate Burnett’s sentence and remand for the District Court to resentence Burnett.”);
In U.S. v. Lathern, 488 F.3d 1043 (D.C. Cir. 2007), Kavanaugh allowed the exclusion of exculpatory testimony from a defendant’s witness and expert witness in upholding an 8-year /97-month prison sentence. Other rulings in favor of long sentences include US v. Franklin, 663 F.3d 1289 (D.C. Cir. 2011) (life sentence); U.S. v. Duvall, 705 F.3d 479 (D.C. Cir. 2013) (ruling against retroactive correction of crack cocaine disparity); U.S. v. Wright, 745 F.3d 1231 (D.C. Cir. 2014) (ruling against defendant in case alleging attorney conflict of interest); U.S. v. Haight, 892 F.3d 1271 (D.C. Cir. 2018) (reversing a 12 year, 8 month sentence and vacating because it should be at least a 15 year mandatory minimum sentence); U.S. v. Knight, 824 F.3d 1105 (D.C. Cir. 2016) (rejecting speedy trial act and due process claims and a number of challenges to sentences).
By way of contrast: When Carlos Gustavo Gardellini filed a false federal tax return and illegally used offshore accounts, the federal guidelines called for a 10- to 16-month prison sentence. But Judge Kavanaugh, U.S. v. Gardellini, 545 F.3d 1089 (D.C. Cir. 2008), upheld a no-prison-time sentence with five years of probation in Belgium for this white collar criminal with his wife and child, and none of the normal probation conditions or restrictions. Judge Williams dissented. In U.S. v. Settles, 530 F.3d 920 (D.C. Cir. 2008), Judge Kavanaugh held that it was permissible for the district court to consider alleged conduct for which the defendant was acquitted in calculating a criminal sentence using the factors in the sentencing guidelines.
In Omar v. McHugh, 646 F.3d 13 (D.C. Cir. 2011), Judge Kavanaugh held that American citizens have no Constitutional habeas corpus or due process rights to judicial review of whether they are likely to be tortured if they are transferred from U.S. to (in this case) Iraqi custody.
In Harbury v. Hayden, 522 F.3d 413 (D.C. Cir. 2008), Judge Kavanaugh ruled that CIA employees who tortured and killed Guatemalans could not be held accountable in US courts for their violations of international and US law.
Over a dissent, in Jackson v. Gonzalez, 496 F.3d 703 (D.C. Cir. 2007), Kavanaugh threw out a black prison guard’s claim of discrimination, not even allowing it to go to trial, where the guard had shown evidence that he scored 98 out of 100 on qualification exams and that the prison kept positions open for years and had never hired an African American at the level of job he was seeking.
He consistently ruled for the government in FOIA cases against government transparency. Blackwell v. FBI, 646 F.3d 37 (D.C. Cir. 2012), Hodge v. FBI, 703 F.3d 575 (D.C. Cir. 2013), Sack v. DOD, 823 F.3d 687 (D.C. Cir. 2016)
Against free speech when it applies to workers: In Southern New England Telephone Company v. National Labor Relations Board, 793 F.3d 93 (D.C. Cir. 2015) Kavanaugh denied NLRB’s cross-application to enforce its order for the company to permit employees working in public to wear union shirts that said “Inmate” on the front and “Prisoner of (Company)” on the back.
He has shown a comparatively huge amount of concern for trivial or corporate rights, e.g., finding the CFPB unconstitutional, PHH Corporation v. CFPB, 839 F.3d 1 (D.C. Cir. 2016), or FAA regulations against flying model airplanes near D.C. monuments unlawful. Taylor v. Huerta, 856 F.3d 1089 (D.C. Cir. 2017).
ZooeyModeratorThis is about a lot more than abortion.
There is a case coming before the Supreme Court on Friday that could rewrite Double Indemnity. If Kavanaugh gets his hands on it, he will vote to make it illegal to charge someone on the state level if he has been tried (or pardoned) at the federal level. It would literally cut out any leverage Mueller has, and it will be over.
Kavanaugh is backed by the Kochs. He is their guy, and they have the same vision. The Kochs want a constitutional convention to revise the constitution to their liking, and their “liking” is fascism.
Here is a list of the things the Kochs hope to accomplish (from the platform when David Koch ran for Vice President). After this, I will post some Kavanaugh decisions.
What’s at stake here is democracy as we know it.
“We urge the repeal of federal campaign finance laws, and the immediate abolition of the despotic Federal Election Commission.”
“We favor the abolition of Medicare and Medicaid programs.”
“We oppose any compulsory insurance or tax-supported plan to provide health services, including those which finance abortion services.”
“We also favor the deregulation of the medical insurance industry.”
“We favor the repeal of the fraudulent, virtually bankrupt, and increasingly oppressive Social Security system. Pending that repeal, participation in Social Security should be made voluntary.”
“We propose the abolition of the governmental Postal Service.”
“We oppose all personal and corporate income taxation, including capital gains taxes.”
“We support the eventual repeal of all taxation.”
“As an interim measure, all criminal and civil sanctions against tax evasion should be terminated immediately.”
“We support repeal of all law which impede the ability of any person to find employment, such as minimum wage laws.”
“We advocate the complete separation of education and State. Government schools lead to the indoctrination of children and interfere with the free choice of individuals. Government ownership, operation, regulation, and subsidy of schools and colleges should be ended.”
“We condemn compulsory education laws … and we call for the immediate repeal of such laws.”
“We support the repeal of all taxes on the income or property of private schools, whether profit or non-profit.”
“We support the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency.”
“We support abolition of the Department of Energy.”
“We call for the dissolution of all government agencies concerned with transportation, including the Department of Transportation.”
“We demand the return of America’s railroad system to private ownership. We call for the privatization of the public roads and national highway system.”
“We specifically oppose laws requiring an individual to buy or use so-called “self-protection” equipment such as safety belts, air bags, or crash helmets.”
“We advocate the abolition of the Federal Aviation Administration.”
“We advocate the abolition of the Food and Drug Administration.”
“We support an end to all subsidies for child-bearing built into our present laws, including all welfare plans and the provision of tax-supported services for children.”
“We oppose all government welfare, relief projects, and ‘aid to the poor’ programs. All these government programs are privacy-invading, paternalistic, demeaning, and inefficient. The proper source of help for such persons is the voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals.”
“We call for the privatization of the inland waterways, and of the distribution system that brings water to industry, agriculture and households.”
“We call for the repeal of the Occupational Safety and Health Act.”
“We call for the abolition of the Consumer Product Safety Commission.”
“We support the repeal of all state usury laws.”
ZooeyModeratorI couldn’t find anything to dislike in Eisen’s comments.
Goff isn’t throwing the ball up and letting the WR run under it. He has already this year made a bunch of throws that are on a rope and within…like…a 3″ window. He has been ridiculous in his accuracy. He makes every throw. This is a spectacle.
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