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  • #166199
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    A lot of good things.

    Buncha mistakes.

    Winston was never going to beat them.

    Bailey got a sack!

    #166201
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    I gotta say, i did not think Davante still had that kind of game in him.

    Surprising game to me. I thought the Giants would be much tougher. I thought their DLine would be a problem for the Rams Oline.

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    #166220
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    I gotta say, i did not think Davante still had that kind of game in him.

    Surprising game to me. I thought the Giants would be much tougher. I thought their DLine would be a problem for the Rams Oline.

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    Me too.

    And I don’t mean that in a sexual harassment kind of way.

    I was expecting more Smash from the Giants, and I’m not sorry that they let me down on that point.

    I actually think it’s surprising that the Rams did not hang up 42 on them, the way things were going.

    Davante Adams made me happy. He did not look like a guy just barely hanging on at the end of his career. He Looked like a football player.

    The Rams just looked like a team that showed up, did the football thing, and left.

    Seeing AD out there just caused me to have multiples, though. I am so happy to see that dude out there.

    #166224
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    Even with the drop on third down, I was encouraged by the play of Ferguson.

    I’m stressed whenever Kyren has the ball in his hands as I’m always waiting for his next turnover.

    McDuffie looked great.

    I hate any missed FG.

    Adams seemed unstoppable.

    Rams defense played well vs the run.

    Jamis Winston didn’t look good.

    I like how McVay used the run in this game, and I loved the even split between Williams and Corum.

    I thought AD was solid.

    Denver is going to be tough, especially on a short week.

    Great bounce back win by the Rams.

    #166229
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    I think the Giants were jet-lagged. What time did they get to LA ?

    Also, I’m vexed that they didnt get Davante 6 more yards.

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    #166239
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    With other teams if a star player is out, they lose that player’s production and try to compensate for that.

    With the Rams it’s like, okay, Nacua is out, so this gives us a chance to make up for neglecting Adams as much as we have till now.

    BTW I don’t know if people know this, but the Rams had 3 WRs on the inactive list, 2 cause of injury. Nacua, Whittington, and Daniels.

    #166248
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    Every win without Myles Garrett counts double, you know. So the Rams are actually 2-1.

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    #166260
    Hram
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    Donald looking this good this early is huge. Devante looking this good at his age is huge.

    They need to manage both players they don’t overwork them during the season.

    Rams are gonna be fairly decent when miles and puka come back to the lineup 🙂

    #166261
    Avatar photoEternal Ramnation
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    Tutu running that speed out to perfection. I’m not excited about the special teams though they look about the same, missed Fg trouble fielding kicks etc

    #166264
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    It is true that the Giants were more banged up than the Rams. But of course the Rams were banged up too. On the Rams side, this led to the double specter of a top run game and a brilliant connection between Stafford and Adams, all against a very good defense.

    There were times we can all remember where the Rams would lose games like this.

    For me, in the midst of the weird combo of gaudy yet mistake prone offense, it was a pleasure to see players like Adams and McDuffie excel.

    And in the middle of all this chaos league wide driven by compromised OL play, it was good to see the Rams OL just be solidly effective.

    Some details.

    * Kyren Wms said he worked on his speed in the offseason. To me, it showed. He didn’t suddenly become Tony Dorsett, but he had a bit more speed in his game.

    * The Rams DL is so deep it’s almost unbelievable. And we didn’t even hear much from Fiske or Ford. I have this radical new deep revelation that leads to me to a profound new claim: namely, I think this unit is going to just get better and better. Really. I promise. It’s true. I swear.

    * Some games, Lake just makes plays. When he does that he just seems to be tuned in to what the opposing offense is trying to do.

    * Atwell, in his few plays, looked more confidently decisive than before. He’s still a role player, but it could grow into an important role.

    * Ferguson took steps toward being the “TE in the 3rd WR” role that he is kind of destined for in McVay’s mind. I like the fact that both Stafford and McVay chewed him out for the dropped 3rd down pass, and that he responded to that in a constructive way.

    * Protection is big for this offense. Higbee was more a 6th lineman than a true TE. I bet we see more of that this year.

    * Everyone on defense plays crazier and more tuned in when Donald is active–that’s whether he is on the field or the sideline. Players used to say that with Steven Jackson on the team, you just played harder out of respect for him. I think it’s the same with Donald.

    * Special teams has gone from being a game-killing, bottom of the league unit capable of causing multiple disasters, to being just somewhat below average/slash/mediocre. So…big improvement!

    * On third and short, setting up a run look then rolling Stafford out to hit a TE who had lined up before the snap as a blocker? That play looks unstoppable. In the future, teams will defend that, but doing so will just subtract from the run defense. It’s a clever thing McVay does with that, since the play and then (eventually) just threatening to run that play will force defenders into contradictory no-win responses.

    * To be honest? I knew Adams was good, we all did. But I had no idea how good. He truly ranks right up there with a very long list of great Rams WRs, including Ellard, Bruce, Holt, Kupp, OBJ, and Nacua. That’s just true of course but what I want to stress here is how much seeing him in that game just drove that point home. In one game, I went from “yeah he’s good glad we have him” to “wow.”

    #166269
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    A lot of what went on was a result of a backup qb and cb injuries.

    But one thing that we can say for sure is the Rams Oline faced a solid Dline and they dominated. 7 yards per rush and very little pressure.

    That is encouraging.

    They now face the best sack-line from last year.

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    #166271
    Avatar photoBilly_T
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    Good to see them play well and get the win. Was great to see Donald back. Keep it going, Rams!

    #166276
    Avatar photoZooey
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    It is true that the Giants were more banged up than the Rams. But of course the Rams were banged up too. On the Rams side, this led to the double specter of a top run game and a brilliant connection between Stafford and Adams, all against a very good defense.

    There were times we can all remember where the Rams would lose games like this.

    For me, in the midst of the weird combo of gaudy yet mistake prone offense, it was a pleasure to see players like Adams and McDuffie excel.

    And in the middle of all this chaos league wide driven by compromised OL play, it was good to see the Rams OL just be solidly effective.

    Some details.

    * Kyren Wms said he worked on his speed in the offseason. To me, it showed. He didn’t suddenly become Tony Dorsett, but he had a bit more speed in his game.

    * The Rams DL is so deep it’s almost unbelievable. And we didn’t even hear much from Fiske or Ford. I have this radical new deep revelation that leads to me to a profound new claim: namely, I think this unit is going to just get better and better. Really. I promise. It’s true. I swear.

    * Some games, Lake just makes plays. When he does that he just seems to be tuned in to what the opposing offense is trying to do.

    * Atwell, in his few plays, looked more confidently decisive than before. He’s still a role player, but it could grow into an important role.

    * Ferguson took steps toward being the “TE in the 3rd WR” role that he is kind of destined for in McVay’s mind. I like the fact that both Stafford and McVay chewed him out for the dropped 3rd down pass, and that he responded to that in a constructive way.

    * Protection is big for this offense. Higbee was more a 6th lineman than a true TE. I bet we see more of that this year.

    * Everyone on defense plays crazier and more tuned in when Donald is active–that’s whether he is on the field or the sideline. Players used to say that with Steven Jackson on the team, you just played harder out of respect for him. I think it’s the same with Donald.

    * Special teams has gone from being a game-killing, bottom of the league unit capable of causing multiple disasters, to being just somewhat below average/slash/mediocre. So…big improvement!

    * On third and short, setting up a run look then rolling Stafford out to hit a TE who had lined up before the snap as a blocker? That play looks unstoppable. In the future, teams will defend that, but doing so will just subtract from the run defense. It’s a clever thing McVay does with that, since the play and then (eventually) just threatening to run that play will force defenders into contradictory no-win responses.

    * To be honest? I knew Adams was good, we all did. But I had no idea how good. He truly ranks right up there with a very long list of great Rams WRs, including Ellard, Bruce, Holt, Kupp, OBJ, and Nacua. That’s just true of course but what I want to stress here is how much seeing him in that game just drove that point home. In one game, I went from “yeah he’s good glad we have him” to “wow.”

    That’s a really good post, and I could expand on several of those points, but I’m triggered mostly by the last one on Adams. There were three plays that he made that weren’t just “good,” but which were funking great. One was the second? touchdown pass he caught? Both Stafford’s throw and his catch were just ridiculous. But he caught a few passes that no human being can catch during the game. This guy, Adams, is not just a random addition to a team. He is legend.

    #166277
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    on Adams. There were three plays that he made that weren’t just “good,” but which were funking great. One was the second? touchdown pass he caught? Both Stafford’s throw and his catch were just ridiculous. But he caught a few passes that no human being can catch during the game. This guy, Adams, is not just a random addition to a team. He is legend.

    That was a great play. It looked like they were just playing catch against open air. Pretty much every catch was great in one fashion or another. I am also thinking of the long one on the right side of the field, where Adams gets open with a move so subtle I had to replay it to even see what he did.

    This play. He basically gets the DB to lose his balance by pivoting on him, but it’s not just some garish big obvious move, it’s a subtle shift of a couple of inches from the fake–where Adams gets the DB to commit to covering outside toward the sideline–to the take off. All taking place in a split second.



    #166316
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    I am also thinking of the long one on the right side of the field, where Adams gets open with a move so subtle I had to replay it to even see what he did.

    #166320
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    Davante had an outlier kinda game against a rookie CB and a banged up secondary. I mean, he’s great-and-all, but he also had, like 25 yards against a good defense this year.

    They need Puka.

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    #166322
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    Davante had an outlier kinda game against a rookie CB and a banged up secondary. I mean, he’s great-and-all, but he also had, like 25 yards against a good defense this year.

    I would say that the SF game is its own outlier. Everyone was off in that game. I don’t think that represents the Rams against a good defense. I would say that represents the Rams against SF in Australia.

    The Giants secondary was beat up. But then there was no Puka, and in fact there barely was another receiver. And that same defense the week before against Dallas held them to 3.8 air yards per reception, and held them to 69 yards on 18 carries rushing (3.83 per).

    Denver is a bigger test. We all know that. But yes if Puka is out, and you want to take advantage of a banged up secondary, then Adams showed what he is capable of. What we are marveling at with Adams though is the specific skills he showed. The masterful subtle shifts in route running, the high octane body control on what were actually some challenging catches. The only receiver the Rams have had recently to match all that in terms of sheer raw skills was OBJ in 2021.

    #166323
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    Davante had an outlier kinda game against a rookie CB and a banged up secondary. I mean, he’s great-and-all, but he also had, like 25 yards against a good defense this year.

    They need Puka.

    they do need puka, but i thought adams was great.

    one side benefit to having puka out. this might give ferguson a chance to grow into the offense a little bit. with some live reps against first team nfl defenses. in the long run, maybe this benefits the offense.

    i hope.

    #166324
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    they do need puka, but i thought adams was great.

    one side benefit to having puka out. this might give ferguson a chance to grow into the offense a little bit. with some live reps against first team nfl defenses. in the long run, maybe this benefits the offense.

    i hope.

    Yeah, thats what i was thinking after the Ferguson TD. Good confidence-builder for him.

    To me, the best omen about the Rams was the Oline. BigBlue’s Dline was intact. I expected a ton of pressure on Stafford — but he had all day. Plus they punched big holes for Blake and Kyren.
    Much different than the Australia fiasco.

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    #166325
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    I would say that the SF game is its own outlier. Everyone was off in that game. I don’t think that represents the Rams against a good defense. I would say that represents the Rams against SF in Australia.

    The Giants secondary was beat up. But then there was no Puka, and in fact there barely was another receiver. And that same defense the week before against Dallas held them to 3.8 air yards per reception, and held them to 69 yards on 18 carries rushing (3.83 per).

    Denver is a bigger test. We all know that. But yes if Puka is out, and you want to take advantage of a banged up secondary, then Adams showed what he is capable of. What we are marveling at with Adams though is the specific skills he showed. The masterful subtle shifts in route running, the high octane body control on what were actually some challenging catches. The only receiver the Rams have had recently to match all that in terms of sheer raw skills was OBJ in 2021.

    Well, we certainly hope the Australia-Fiasco was an outlier. I ‘think’ it was, but I’m not sure. After all the first Shanahan game last year was a fiasco in its own right.

    Davante had 88 yards in the first 49er game and 77 in the second. I would say that is more indicative of who he is, than the Giant-Outlier. And thats still very good, etc, and so forth.

    I think Davante is still a talented WR, but just past his prime, and as the season goes on he’s gonna wear down.

    Great game Monday Night. Very entertaining. Showcased about every kind of catch there is.

    I was surprised McVay did not give him 5 more yards.

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    #166326
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    Well, we certainly hope the Australia-Fiasco was an outlier. I ‘think’ it was, but I’m not sure. After all the first Shanahan game last year was a fiasco in its own right.

    Hence the SF outlier.

    The same team that lost to SF in one game gave Seattle defense its most severe tests of its entire season twice within a few weeks. The Rams lost those games by a combined 5 points because of big problems on defense and special teams. We at least know they have addressed the issues of defense, and that’s even without Garrett.

    The one loss to SF was an outlier last year–and that same Rams offense took it to the Seattle defense last year like no other team did.

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