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    in reply to: Rams 1st round pick, #13…Ty Simpson #163785
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    Me: according to Atkins, there was an offer to trade down from 13, but the Rams didn’t like it. I underline the passage where he says that.

    Yeah. So the trade value chart didn’t match reality this year. The 7th, and maybe the 6th rounds were going to be UDFA-level guys.

    Coach Sean McVay and general manager Les Snead felt two forces pulling them at once: an urge to push this team over the top for another Super Bowl it could host in SoFi Stadium in February, and staying power at the game’s most important position that defines whether they’re a contender going forward.

    And here’s the thing: as optimistic as I would have been about Sadiq/Lemon, there really is no guarantee either one would have been a significant difference-maker either. You can’t know that.

    What they apparently felt sure of is that Simpson was a better QB than anybody they are likely to be able to draft next year at 30-32. Which is where they expect to pick. And everybody else expects them to pick.

    Here we are. Whether they guessed right, or wrong, well… time will tell.

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    At the end of that vid above they had a chart with Rams draft grades from 24 sports-expert-sites:
    Out of the 24 grades, two were F’s, and nine were D’s. Nine were C’s. Four B’s. One A.

    Only the Jags got lower grades.

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    All these analysts keep reciting that the Rams were *this* close to winning the Super Bowl last year, and then they drafted Ty Simpson who won’t help get them over the hump.

    But almost all of them neglect to consider that the Rams, with the 29th pick, got McDuffie, and signed Watson as a FA, and they ALREADY made a significant upgrade where they needed to before the draft even started. AND all these aholes are grumbling about the Rams draft while conceding that the Rams are STILL the #1 pick to win it all this year.

    They are analyzing the draft as if the McDuffie/Watson thing never happened.

    This is the problem with national media. They simply can’t cover it all, and so all of their assessments suffer from that shallowness of understanding and context. We have seen this again, and again, and again, and again over the past 28 years.

    We know more about the Rams than the “experts” do. Most of these people don’t know the Rams any better than they know the Bengals or Texans or Dolphins. “Ty Simpson was a ‘reach.’ We had him slotted late first, early second.” That’s all they know. These are people who saw Havenstein retire, and decided the Rams needed to draft OT because they never heard of McClendon.

    The Rams didn’t need Lemon to beat the Seahawks. They needed McDuffie and Watson.

    Simpson is about beating the Seahawks 3 years from now.

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    Then next year when others teams are drafting 1st rd QBs, better players drop to pick 32.

    Jim Everett drops his preseason prediction early.

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    i would have chosen sadiq.

    I think I was leaning slightly to Sadiq. But part of that was that I was imagining what McVay would do with him. Lemon seemed okay to me, but he said/did something pre-draft that seemed kinda like a red flag problem child thing. I don’t remember what it was, though.

    As the draft got closer to #13 and people were talking about Bain, I thought he might be okay, too. Then you have Byron Young’s replacement.

    I’ll be interested to see Simpson, though. The first mobile Rams QB since the legendary T.J. Rubley (who mostly ran backwards).

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    BTW, the last time the Rams drafted somebody with the #13 pick in the draft, it worked out pretty well.

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    Syracuse TE Dan Villari
    Played TE, QB and RB at Syracuse

    Villari was primarily a tight end at Syracuse, but he also took snaps at quarterback. He rushed 84 times for 410 yards and four touchdowns, completed 23 of 33 passes for 177 yards with one touchdown and two picks, and also caught 66 passes for 671 yards and three touchdowns in four years.

    The Shohei Ohtani of college football.

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    Rich Eisen and I have landed at the same place.

    in reply to: Rams 6th rd pick – CJ Daniels, WR. Miami #163748
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    Rams gave up 3 of their 4 remaining picks to get him in the 6th

    they did not have a 4th or 5th round pick

    im guessing they had him rated higher than a 6th round pick

    At first, I thought giving up 3 7th rounders was a lot to move up 10 spots, but I read somewhere that the 6th and 7th rounds were thinner than usual this year due to NIL, and that was one of the things that made it hard for the Rams to trade down in the 1st – the extra late picks did not have the same value as usual.

    So they dumped the picks in exchange for a WR they thought had MUCH higher value, and got all the UDFAs anyway.

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    why were the Rams so ashamed of their interest in Simpson?

    I asked ChatGPT, and here is the definitive answer:

    The Los Angeles Rams’ interest in O. J. Simpson wasn’t something they advertised widely at the time, largely because of how controversial and complicated he already was—even before his later legal troubles.

    Back in the late 1970s, when Simpson was nearing the end of his career with the Buffalo Bills, the Rams considered bringing him to Los Angeles. On paper, it made sense: he was a huge star, a Southern California native, and a former standout at University of Southern California. But there were a few reasons the team was uneasy:

    1. Declining performance and injury concerns
    Simpson was no longer the dominant running back he had been earlier in his career. Teams worried about paying for his name rather than his production.

    2. Locker room and personality concerns
    He had a reputation for being more focused on his celebrity career (acting, endorsements) than football at that point. The Rams were a serious contender and didn’t want distractions.

    3. Public image—even then
    Even before the O. J. Simpson murder trial, Simpson had a complicated reputation. Some executives reportedly felt his larger-than-life persona didn’t fit the team culture they wanted.

    4. Internal disagreement
    There wasn’t a unified push within the Rams organization. Some people wanted the publicity boost; others thought it was a bad football decision.

    So it wasn’t exactly “shame” in the moral sense—it was more discomfort and hesitation. The Rams ultimately did trade for him in 1978, but by then it felt more like a calculated gamble than a proud acquisition, and his performance never lived up to his earlier superstar level.

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    “It was just straight football. And it was like a kid in a candy store,” Simpson said. “Me and him are sitting there, and we’re just going back and forth. You can tell the obsession he has for the game, and you can tell the love he has for quarterback play.

    “It’s something that I appreciate, and it’s something that I enjoy because I really enjoy playing the position and value the position. So, being with him and then getting to know him and then just seeing a little bit of how I would get coached if I was fortunate enough to go there was something that I couldn’t have asked for a better situation.”

    Given the way McVay put together film for Adams and what we know about his compulsiveness (and memory) from Hard Knocks, it’s really kinda inconceivable that McVay wouldn’t have spent hours with a prospective QB to find out if he was going to track mentally or not. It feels silly to have believed them when they said McVay had NEVER MET Simpson. As if he’s going to take a QB in that spot based on film alone. These guys are waaaay too thorough for that kinda shit, and it’s hard to believe I fell for that lie. I believed the Rams when they said that because it goes along with not attending the combine and not having all the visits. Now Snead is confessing they met with 66 potential draft picks. It’s smart that they don’t want anybody to know whom they’re talking to, but I’m never falling for that crap again. These guys KNOW whom they’re drafting.

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    Whats the plan if Stafford goes down for a month or so?

    What if its in the first part of the season — is Ty-15-college-starts going to be the Rams back-up QB? Or are they keeping Stetson and carrying three QBs?

    Whats the back-up QB plan?

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    Snead is going to force another QB down McVay’s throat, but it’s all hush-hush right now because everyone is sworn to secrecy.

    in reply to: Rams 1st round pick, #13…Ty Simpson #163698
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    My own take? Some things about him point to a “mid-level guy.” But some things point to him being more than that.

    Football IQ plus fast processing under fire plus accuracy plus very good feet/movement plus toughness (he had a terrible OL at Alabama)…plus intangibles.

    That is where I’m landing, too. I think that all the Positives I’m reading about him are more important that the Negatives.

    Size and Experience are important. But not as important as mental processing and ability to make throws, and make plays off script. Plus he seems to be a football nerd who pounds the film room.

    And Simpson seems to be stronger on those latter things.

    So I’ll take him over Ryan Leaf.

    Mid-level seems to me to be a Floor, not a ceiling. But Time Will Tell.

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    I’m good with this pick now. I’ve now had a chance to watch much of the video content all of you shared here, and I appreciate your efforts.

    I’m convinced now that McVay loves what he sees, and his situation – lots of learning behind Stafford – I think it’s all good. People seem to believe he is a mid-level guy, but I’m okay with that. If you draw up a list of the top 15 QBs in the NFL right now, you have 15 really good QBs. Even at the 12- 15 range.

    I’m ready to go. I’m not up for all the push-ups and wind-sprints personally, but I’m ready for the Rams to start doing them.

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    , traded 3 picks just to move up 10 spots to land this guy in the 6th round.

    That’s how much they wanted him.

    Yep, that struck me on draft day. They gave up 3 picks to move up ten spots. That is remarkable.

    This guy is my favorite pick atm.

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    Yeah, this is the guy I’m most excited about. Come down with the ball, you know? You may not always get open. Come down with the ball anyway.

    I’m a fan of this guy already.

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    I think I would be happy to take one of those 5 WRs. I don’t think Jennings would come in at the right price, and he has no interest in being #3; he thinks he’s #1. Hill has been injured to the point that he wouldn’t contribute much in the early part of the season, and we would have no idea what he could do later, so…pass. I don’t know how Diggs, Allen, of Samuel might fit, but McSnead knows. And if they signed one of them, I’d trust they had a plan, and I’d feel better about the WR room.

    I expected more than what we got from Whittington last year, and Mumpfield was taking only baby steps, and CJ hasn’t even done any bench presses in Thousand Oaks yet, so I don’t know if one of those guys might pop out this year. But I don’t think one of those 3 FA guys would hurt the Rams any.

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    Ty Simpson, apparently has a lot of experience behind bad Olines.

    Kill Kurt

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    It ended on Thursday, after McVay apprised Stafford of the plan, and the Rams pushed the button on the night’s biggest surprise.

    Conspiracy Theory #4: Matthew Stafford was pissed. Especially since Simpson ripped up Georgia. And he raised his voice at McVay.

    And that’s what we saw.

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    Though, fwiw, the analyst in one of the vids i posted up there said Ty was not very accurate when passing on the run.

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    Since that’s illegal anyway, it probably doesn’t matter.

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    I guess its clear now that the Name-Image-Likeness (NIL) money has allowed kids to stay in college and so the later rounds of the draft just arent going to be as good anymore. Maybe no more Pukas in the 6th round, etc.

    “last year rounds 6-7 wiped out because of NIL. This year rounds 4-7 wiped out because of NIL”

    Seems like that will create a tsunami of great players will hit next year. They can’t stay in college forever.

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    Anyway I edited out the misleading quotation from the article you originally responded to.

    I’d rather have the 39th overall prospect as an UDFA, but…thanks?

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    BTW, in CBS’ mock draft for 2027, they have this as the Rams’ pick.

    So. High Expectations.

    However, they have Seattle at pick 31, so I guess they’re also expecting a change in the rules for how the playoffs are seeded.

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    Yes Kiper rated him that high. And it’s 39th among players, not rushers:

    No, Invader is right. 39th among Edge rushers. From the Kiper link you posted.

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    OLB Eddle Walls – Houston | Rated at 39th overall on Mel Kiper’s draft board,

    You’ve got to be fucking kidding me.

    Not that Mel Kiper is the best evaluator, just the first and maybe the loudest, but he’s not nobody. WTF is this?

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    From CBS. I pasted the other NFC West grades in the non-Rams draft thread.

    The Rams only had three picks in the first five rounds and used them all on offensive players. And they kept the trend alive on Day 3 when they finally got the receiver many thought they would prioritize in the first round.

    On one hand, finding the heir to Matthew Stafford makes a lot of sense. On the other, drafting Ty Simpson on Day 1 is a bit of a head-scratcher. The No. 13 pick feels early for a prospect who was no sure thing to go in the first round. This will likely be one of the most scrutinized selections of the entire draft.

    Renner is high on Simpson, though, and tabbed it as an A-grade pick.

    “Simpson showed high-end ability last season before injuries started piling up,” Renner said. “He understands how to attack tight windows and play with the anticipation necessary to translate to the NFL. I also think he gets underrated physically, as he’s got very light feet in the pocket and an NFL-caliber arm. The Rams don’t plan on picking this high until Matthew Stafford retires, and now they have their transition plan.”

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    Well, CBS likes the Rams’ draft better than anyone else’s in the division. I’ll put the Rams in the “general draft grades” thread, and the Enemies List here:

    Arizona had a clear plan in this draft: Build a running game. The Cardinals went running back–interior lineman with their first two picks. But then they took a quarterback. That’s not a shock, but what is questionable is taking Carson Beck rather than making a move for Ty Simpson in Round 1.

    Beck’s arm is a real concern following a senior year at Miami in which he struggled to hit some deep throws. His UCL injury at the end of his Georgia career also clouds his long-term future. That’s not quite the sure thing a team would prefer when taking what it hopes is a franchise signal-caller.

    Earlier, the Cardinals were about as aggressive as they could have been at No. 3. They made Jeremiyah Love the first running back selected in the top five since Saquon Barkley went second overall in 2018. They are now heavily invested in the position even though they don’t have a long-term quarterback, which makes this a “C+” pick, according to Renner. That is no knock on Love, though. Many analysts view him as the best player in the draft, and he has superstar potential.


    The 49ers fielded calls for the No. 33 pick all day Friday, according to multiple reports, but elected to keep the second round’s first pick when they did not receive an enticing enough offer. They used it to continue reshaping their receiving corps with the selection of De’Zhaun Stribling. The Ole Miss product joins Mike Evans as a newcomer in a new-look group — one that seems certain to lose Brandon Aiyuk and has already said goodbye to Jauan Jennings.

    Rounds 3 and 4 are where the 49ers addressed their significant need on the defensive front. Romello Height was one of many disruptors on the dominant Texas Tech line last year and is both a depth addition and an upside pick for a team that could not stay healthy on the edge in 2025. Gracen Halton, meanwhile, bolsters the interior.

    The third round is also where they made a less-than-inspiring pick at running back. In a perfect world, Kaelon Black will be nothing more than a backup to Christian McCaffrey for the next few years.


    In a vacuum, the first round is probably a bit early to take the No. 2 running back in this class. It works for the Seahawks, however, because they’re in a unique position as the reigning Super Bowl champions with very few needs.

    Running back is the most glaring of those deficiencies with Kenneth Walker III out the door and Zach Charbonnet likely to miss a sizable chunk of 2026 as he recovers from a torn ACL. Seattle could afford to reach a bit to round out what it hopes is another championship roster, and Price is such a talented ball carrier that nobody batted an eye at the selection.

    The safety and cornerback additions addressed the Seahawks’ two next-biggest deficiencies. That’s textbook drafting.

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    I’m pretty meh about this draft.

    The draft didn’t make me more excited about this coming season. None of them are starters. I just don’t know if this entire draft class is going to see many snaps this year. The guy I am most interested in is CJ Daniels. His profile is intriguing. And Keenan may be able to give Ford a breather from time-to-time, so he may get the most snaps of the entire bunch. So, fine. Investing in the future is good. It’s just not exciting.

    Also, I’m going to complain about getting only 5 picks. I particularly like getting multiple picks in 3-5 because the Rams feast there. Only one 3rd, no 4th, no 5th, and one 6th that they traded three 7ths to move up 10 slots for.

    As for Simpson, he may be just fine, or even better than that. You can win with Purdy, and that’s enough. Stafford is the best QB the Rams have ever had, I think, and so the next guy is not going to be as good. That’s okay, too. Just none of it is exciting.

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    i’m really curious as to what numbers he would have put up if he had participated at the combine.

    so he ranks in the 99.6 percentile in on field athleticism score. i had to look that up. it apparently uses computer vision to track player movements on the field. interesting. i think this is what they are referring to. apparently sam laporta and nacua both ranked in the 99th% according to this article.

    That sounds like a good thing.

    The knock seems to be his blocking, and some say he has a limited upside there. I wondered about that because my impression is that blocking is mostly leverage and angles i.e. technique. Why can’t he improve there?

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    Btw, is it…’normal procedure’ to tell your Hall of Fame QB that you are drafting another QB on the DAY of the Draft? I woulda thot they would talk to Stafford about it a month ago.

    This question has been dancing around in my mind, too. I don’t think we shall ever see.

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