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    Carolina cut Miles Davis

    I bet he’s a different kind of blue today.

    in reply to: Rams trade Hunter for Atwell #165663
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    Love this move with TuTu. The offense needed a player who could stretch the defense. And he won’t cost $10 mil like last time.

    As an aside, I haven’t been here in a couple of years (selling my home and moving to a new area). I cannot find a new post button. Can someone give this old man some some pointers?

    Thanks in advance.
    Oz

    There is no New Post button. Scroll all the way to the bottom of the home page, and you will find a box just sitting there, waiting for you to create a new post.

    Welcome back. I was wondering what you were up to.

    in reply to: Rams 1st round pick, #13…Ty Simpson #165652
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    After 3 preseason games.

    This is Simpson’s qb type.

    Processing skills and field vision. Short to mid-range accuracy. Quick release. Not a cannon arm but not a bad arm either. Has anticipation, rhythmic timing, and quick decisive decision-making. Confident. Looks like he belongs out there. Quick movements. Can bail on a sack with abrupt suddenness, but it’s under control–he can bail abruptly and still position himself on the run to make throws. More than just mobile, though not a classic running threat. He can dart around.

    No other Rams qb we’ve seen has had this particular combination of traits.

    Will all of that hold up against NFL defenses as they get to know him? I think quite possibly, yes. In fact, I’m optimistic. Though you can’t say it has happened until it happens.

    So either this is a case of time will tell if we shall see, or a case of we shall see if time will tell.

    Well, if we’re lucky, we won’t see him again until next preseason. So Ty Simpson Season 2 shouldn’t be available to stream for another 11 months.

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    Simpson is capable of turning a loss into a gain. He’s not, however, going to take off like the elite running QBs, but that’s probably good. Those guys – Cunningham, Murray, Vick – all got themselves in trouble by relying too much on their legs, and I don’t think Simpson is likely to fall into that trap.

    To expand on that – I don’t think my thinking behind this was clear – I think Simpson has a lower ceiling as a scrambler than those other guys. He isn’t gifted enough to turn a sack into a broken field, whirling dervish 48-yard run…so I don’t think he will do that. So far he has played “within himself.” Looks like he’s agile and quick enough to take a chunk of what the defense leaves in front of him, but I don’t expect him to get himself kilt trying to be a hero.

    Also, I’m still pretty pissed off that the 9ers got Purdy with the last freaking pick in the draft. I wanted them to suffer for years for the Trey Lance disaster, but Shanahan just straight up went out and fixed that problem.

    The Rams better win that first game. My preference is that they win it convincingly, like 27-9.

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    Rams 53-man roster projection: Tutu Atwell adds to crowded pass-catching group

    By Nate Atkins
    Aug. 28, 2026 Updated 7:02 am PDT

    The preseason is over, and that means crunch time has arrived for the Los Angeles Rams to decide their 53-man roster.

    Cutdown day is Sunday, and the Rams have a more straightforward roster than many teams after returning nearly every starter from last season’s NFC Championship Game loss, give or take a trio of big-name additions.

    However, the roster has also gotten bloated at a few positions, making it challenging to decide which players to keep and which to expose to waivers before building the 16-man practice squad.

    This season’s roster is a moving target, as the Rams are bracing for the potential of two starter suspensions, have a pair of roster locks currently working back from injuries and also have a former three-time NFL Defensive Player of the Year they could need to save a spot for.

    Quarterback (3)
    In: Matthew Stafford, Stetson Bennett, Ty Simpson

    Out: Matthew Caldwell

    The Rams have made it clear they are keeping three quarterbacks again, and Bennett will likely take the backup role Jimmy Garoppolo held the past two seasons. That would set up Simpson to sit and learn as a rookie, which the Rams see as valuable given the position’s complexity.

    If Stafford were to suffer a significant injury, the Rams could consider calling Garoppolo, who is currently a free agent and has been contemplating retirement. If it’s a short-term injury, Bennett seems likely to be the replacement, but it’s not as settled a spot as it has been in recent seasons.

    The Rams like what they’ve seen out of Caldwell this training camp, and he should be one of their practice squad additions if he clears waivers as expected.

    Running back (3)
    In: Kyren Williams, Blake Corum, Ronnie Rivers

    Out: Jordan Waters, Dean Connors

    The Rams cleared up this position on Thursday by trading Jarquez Hunter to the Miami Dolphins for Tutu Atwell. They should roll with just three options to start the season, with Williams and Corum in a timeshare of carries and Rivers serving as a versatile special teams player who is adequate as a rusher, receiver and pass protector.

    Waters and Connors impressed this preseason and should be options for the practice squad if they aren’t claimed by other teams on waivers.

    Wide receiver (7)
    In: Puka Nacua, Davante Adams, Jordan Whittington, Konata Mumpfield, Xavier Smith, Tutu Atwell, CJ Daniels

    Out: Alex Bachman, Tru Edwards, Brennan Presley, Tyler Scott

    The Rams made a surprising trade by re-acquiring Atwell in the deal that sent Hunter to the Dolphins. That addition adds a needed speed option and could cover a potential suspension of Nacua under the league’s personal conduct policy. Either way, Atwell, on a $1.075 million contract, is easier to treat as a luxury than when they did so last season with him on a $10 million deal.

    Whittington and Smith became roster locks when the Rams gave them steady special teams roles, and they’ve been impressed with the growth of Mumpfield in his second season, including as an option on special teams.

    Daniels has had a busy preseason and training camp but might struggle to see the field early with how many options the Rams have. The team also has to brace for potential load management and missed games for Adams, who still looks great but is 33 and managed several lower-body injuries last season.

    Tight end (5)
    In: Terrance Ferguson, Colby Parkinson, Tyler Higbee, Davis Allen, Max Klare

    Out: Mark Redman, Dan Villari

    The Rams are leaning into three-tight end sets even more than last season, when they discovered it midseason and led the league in that usage by a wide margin. That helps explain the second-round selection of Klare, and this group is deep enough that he could see several healthy scratches — like Ferguson did last season — until the Rams have an injury.

    Ferguson should be a featured option after a year of learning the playbook and an offseason of trimming body weight and learning several different alignments, positions and route combinations. Allen missed time in training camp with a quad injury but should be ready to go by Week 1.

    Offensive line (10)
    In: Alaric Jackson, Steve Avila, Coleman Shelton, Kevin Dotson, Warren McClendon Jr., David Quessenberry, Justin Dedich, Beaux Limmer, Keagen Trost, Blake Hance

    Out: AJ Arcuri, Dylan McMahon, Bill Murray, Bryce Henderson, Wyatt Bowles, Austin Blaske

    The Rams would ideally proceed with nine offensive linemen, but injuries to Trost and Dedich have muddied the picture, as has a potential looming suspension for Jackson. It makes sense to create extra space at tackle, given the questions facing Jackson and Trost and the fact that Quessenberry is 36. Once those situations stabilize, Hance could depart to make room for a third center.

    Offensive line depth remains the biggest question mark for this team, given how strong the starters are and how one injury or suspension could create major risk for a 38-year-old pocket quarterback managing a degenerative back injury.

    Defensive line/outside linebacker (10)
    In: Myles Garrett, Kobie Turner, Poona Ford, Byron Young, Tim Keenan, Tyler Davis, Josaiah Stewart, Braden Fiske, Desjuan Johnson, Wesley Bailey

    Out: Ty Hamilton, Devean Deal, Tomon Fox, Darryl Peterson III, Payton Zdroik, Bill Norton, Jaxson Moi, Larrell Murchison

    This is such a deep and loaded group, and that’s before the Rams factor in a spot for a potential Aaron Donald return. If and when that happens, Johnson or Bailey likely gets the boot. Bailey is a wild card, as he flashed in ways few saw coming this preseason, and the Rams have to know they won’t get him back if they expose him to waivers.

    Inside linebacker (4)
    In: Nate Landman, Omar Speights, Grant Stuard, Shaun Dolac

    Out: Nikhai Hill-Green, Elias Neal, Monty Rice

    This was another fairly set group from the start of training camp. Landman established himself as a leader last season and earned a three-year, $22.5 million extension. Speights should start in base but will likely be subbed out on passing downs for lots of dime personnel. Stuard and Dolac will lead and be key players on the special teams coverage units.

    Cornerback (4)
    In: Trent McDuffie, Jaylen Watson, Emmanuel Forbes Jr., Josh Wallace

    Out: Cam Lampkin, Steven Gilmore, Nyzier Fourqurean, Al’zillion Hamilton, Alex Johnson

    The Rams overhauled this group in the offseason by acquiring McDuffie and Watson, and McDuffie’s All-Pro abilities at outside and nickel cornerback should add versatility. Forbes should be a better fit as a No. 3 outside option who sees playing time in dime personnel. Wallace has been training as an inside and outside cornerback in addition to safety work.

    Lampkin was a difficult cut, but the Rams are overly deep at the nickel spot, which is his primary position. This would be a spot they’d need to load up on through the practice squad.

    Safety (4)
    In: Quentin Lake, Kam Curl, Kam Kinchens, Jaylen McCollough

    Out: Alex Cook

    This is one of the Rams’ strongest position groups, so they didn’t have any spots to be won. Lake is a hybrid cornerback-safety who will be the team’s primary nickel corner. Expect to see Curl move to more spots this year after inking a three-year, $36 million extension. Kinchens has a chance to be a breakout player, with his ball skills behind this pass rush.

    Cook should be a player the Rams try to get back on the practice squad, given his strong preseason and connection to defensive backs coach Jimmy Lake.

    Specialists (3)
    In: Harrison Mevis, Ethan Evans, Joe Cardona

    International pathway player: Jack Bouwmeester

    For all of last season’s woes on special teams, these positions were set with few worries through training camp. Mevis locked the kicking role down with his performance last season, when he made 18 of 19 field goals and a game winner in the divisional round against the Chicago Bears.

    Evans had a strong start to last season, and the Rams hope they’ve tightened the coverage and blocking units to bring more out of him. Cardona began his career under new coordinator Bubba Ventrone in New England and brings 11 years of experience.

    Nate Atkins is a Senior Writer for The Athletic covering the Los Angeles Rams.

    in reply to: Game thread, Chargers game (NFL network, 7 pt, 10 et) #165640
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    he’s an improviser. I can’t think of the last Rams qb where a broken play can be less of a disaster and more of an opportunity.

    I don’t think the Rams have ever had a QB like this. I’ve spent decades frustrated by opposing QBs escaping a collapsing pocket and turning it into a strong gain. Simpson is capable of turning a loss into a gain. He’s not, however, going to take off like the elite running QBs, but that’s probably good. Those guys – Cunningham, Murray, Vick – all got themselves in trouble by relying too much on their legs, and I don’t think Simpson is likely to fall into that trap.

    His similarity to Purdy was mentioned by Rams insiders as a reason they drafted him. There was no Matthew Stafford available at 13, and Purdy is plenty good enough to keep the offense moving forward. Simpson looks more agile than Purdy, but it’s the decision-processing and accuracy that are crucial.

    He looks more controlled and poised than any other Rams rookie QB I can remember, including Goff, Bradford, and Banks. I was out of the country Everett’s rookie year, so I dunno, but Simpson looks like he belongs out there. I’d like to see some deep throws from him, though. Can he thread a needle 30 yards downfield? And can he nail a sideline pass or a fade?

    I’m leaning into buying Simpson stock. It’s a small sample against vanilla defenses and generally lesser talent, but that was a strong preseason. And, to be fair, he’s playing a vanilla offense with generally lesser talent. The complexity of the task ahead is a bigger challenge, but he aced all the tests in round one.

    in reply to: Game thread, Chargers game (NFL network, 7 pt, 10 et) #165626
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    Who got burned on the 65 yard TD?

    Lampkin was one of two guys trailing, but I don’t know who the other guy was, and I don’t know whose assignment it was.

    in reply to: Rams trade Hunter for Atwell #165624
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    Yeah, I don’t think they brought him in to be the #3. He wasn’t the #3 last year, so why would he be that guy this year?

    His job is to come in and stretch the defense vertically. He wasn’t worth that at $10m, but he’s worth it for $1m.

    And there’s just really no spot for Hunter that can’t be filled by the PS guys.

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    I’ll be able to watch the game tonight, so I’ll be able to explain things to all of you later.

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    Ranking NFL divisions: NFC West, NFC North battle for supremacy, clear choice for worst
    The loaded NFC West takes the top spot behind the Rams, 49ers and reigning champion Seahawks, while all four NFC North contenders look to maintain last year’s winning pace

    By Zachary Pereles

    Last year, an 8-9 record was enough for the Panthers to win the NFC South.

    It would have been the worst record in the NFC North, which became just the second division post-1970 AFL-NFL merger to have four teams with a winning record.

    Such is life in the NFL, where the power can swing wildly over the years. Yes, the NFC North was historically strong one through four last year, but in 2021, it only had one team over .500.

    It can also swing unexpectedly year to year. In 2024, the AFC South had just one team with a winning record and had two of the five worst teams in the NFL. In 2025, two teams — the Texans (13-4) and the Jaguars (12-5) were two of the best teams in the NFL, and the Colts might have been, too, had Daniel Jones stayed healthy.

    So how will the conferences shake out this year? We’ve ranked them 1-8, with several tough calls up and down the rankings.

    1. NFC West
    The NFC West went 29-15 against non-division opponents last year, the best mark in the NFL, and it went 4-1 against the NFC North, including playoffs. So, yes, while the Cardinals won’t be very good this year, there might be three NFC West teams better than the best NFC North team.

    The Rams are the Super Bowl favorites. They finished one possession short of a trip to the big game last year, and since then, all they’ve done is add one of the best defensive players of all time in Myles Garrett and overhaul their worst position group, trading for Trent McDuffie and signing Jaylen Watson. On paper, it’s as talented as any team in recent memory.

    The Seahawks are the reigning Super Bowl champs, and yet they’ve been under-appreciated from the moment they lifted the Lombardi Trophy. With Mike Macdonald calling the shots, the star-studded defense should be among the NFL’s best. The 49ers, meanwhile, just won 11 games while being obliterated by injuries all year. They have Fred Warner and Nick Bosa back on defense. They added Mike Evans, who is a perfect fit for Kyle Shanahan and Brock Purdy.

    Simply put, if you asked every team which division they’d least like to be in, most would say the NFC West. Sorry, Cardinals, that you’re indeed in it in real life.

    2. NFC North
    First off, let me get this out in the open for the fans of NFC North teams who won’t like this (still very high) ranking: The NFC North is awesome. It is incredible that four teams, all with clear flaws, posted winning records last year. And it could be awesome again.

    But, when comparing it to the only division ahead, I see more clear flaws from its legitimate playoff contenders. The Bears’ defense was bad last year but forced a lot of turnovers; history says turnovers are finicky year to year. Sure, the offense could be so good that the defense doesn’t doom them, but it’s still a weakness. The Lions’ defense could be without both of its star safeties — Brian Branch and Kerby Joseph — for most if not all of the year, and there are glaring holes at cornerback and pass rusher opposite Aidan Hutchinson.

    The Vikings finished 9-8 despite horrible quarterback play last year. Kyler Murray should be an upgrade, but there’s uncertainty there. We know his floor, historically, is much better. How high is his ceiling? In Green Bay, there will be no Micah Parsons for the first month (at least), and there are questions on the offensive line and in the secondary.

    It’s easier to finish third in the NFC West than it is in the NFC North. But it’s also easier to win the NFC North.

    3. AFC West
    Someone other than the Chiefs finally won this division last year, with the Broncos ending Kansas City’s nine-year run. With the Chargers also making the playoffs, the AFC West had two playoff teams for the fourth time in the last five years.

    Expect that to become five times in six years. The Broncos aren’t being talked about enough, probably because their offseason was relatively quiet. This is a team that went 14-3, was the AFC’s No. 1 seed and addressed its most glaring need — explosiveness — by trading for Jaylen Waddle. The offensive line is still excellent. The defense is arguably even better and loaded with standouts up front and in the secondary.

    The Chargers are hoping the addition of Mike McDaniel and healthy tackles Rashawn Slater and Joe Alt supercharges the offense. I’m bullish there, and it seems like all Jim Harbaugh does is win. The Chiefs could be the hinge team here. If they’re a playoff team again, this division is loaded. If they’re not, this ranking is probably too high. I’m willing to take my chances on Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid and Steve Spagnuolo.

    4. AFC North
    Last year was an uncharacteristic one for the AFC North, which the Steelers won at 10-7. In five of the previous six years, at least one AFC North team had won 12+ games. The 2025 season was also the first time since 2019 that the division didn’t produce multiple playoff teams.

    Injuries to Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow were clear culprits for the Ravens and the Bengals, respectively, but there’s reason to believe both will bounce back. Jackson has won MVP every time he’s had a new offensive coordinator, and new coach Jesse Minter should fix a leaky pass defense. The Bengals finally made major investments on defense in Dexter Lawrence, Jonathan Allen, Boye Mafe and Bryan Cook.

    The Steelers are running it back with the formula that’s kept them over .500 but not really a threat to do much more for the past half-dozen years or so. Aaron Rodgers is fine, and the defense is good. Expect more of the same. If that’s the third-best team in the division, it’s a pretty good division.

    The Browns are starting Deshaun Watson. We’ll leave it at that.

    5. NFC East
    The difference between the NFC East and the next two divisions below was minuscule. DraftKings likes the NFC East much more in terms of win totals, but I’m not so sure.

    The Cowboys are coming off consecutive seven-win seasons, but their win total is at 9.5. It’s easy to understand why. There have been across-the-board defensive improvements. New defensive coordinator Christian Parker is a rising star. Dallas has Quinnen Williams for an entire season. There are several upgrades in the secondary, led by first-round pick Caleb Downs. If Dak Prescott is healthy, this has the look of a team that could make a playoff run, though how long have we been saying that for? Prescott hasn’t played full seasons in consecutive years since 2018-19. Still, Dallas’ ceiling and floor have both been raised.

    The Eagles’ defense could be a top-five unit. A healthy Jalen Carter is a game changer, and Riq Woolen was an excellent under-the-radar signing. On offense, there’s still plenty of talent, even after A.J. Brown’s departure. Jalen Hurts is adapting to a new system, this one far different than anything he’s done before. There will be some bumps, but this roster is still loaded, and I’ll bet on that every time. Philly has made the playoffs five straight years.

    I have significant concerns about the Commanders (offensive line, overall roster talent) and the Giants (Jaxson Dart, offensive ecosystem). If the bottom falls out on both, this ranking is too high. If one or both can be middle of the pack, though, this ranking will look prudent.

    6. AFC South
    The AFC South occupied a spot nearer the bottom of these rankings for a long time. This still might be a little bit too low. It’s really a game of “What’s Real?” regarding three quarterbacks.

    Was Trevor Lawrence’s outstanding second half of the 2025 season real? Or is he somewhere between that and his up-and-down first half of the season?
    Was Daniel Jones’ outstanding first half of the 2025 season real? Or is he somewhere between that and the mediocre, injured player he’s been much of his career?
    Was C.J. Stroud’s miserable postseason real? Or is he still the guy who looked excellent as a rookie and has since been held back by a brutal offensive line and running game, both of which Houston addressed this offseason?
    A quick guess here: Lawrence is still good, but the Jaguars take a step back; Stroud plays better, and that defense is excellent; and Jones is OK, but the roster as a whole isn’t quite good enough. This division has two playoff teams at best. The Titans are still far away from contending.

    7. AFC East
    The call between the AFC South and the AFC East was an agonizingly close one. Ultimately, the AFC South got the nod, because the bottom doesn’t fall out quite so quickly.

    The Bills and the Patriots are both bonafide Super Bowl contenders, but after that, the Jets figure to be a team picking in the top 10, and the Dolphins might be in line for the worst record in the league. If you add up all four AFC East teams’ wins totals, via DraftKings, it comes out to 30. The AFC South is at 32.

    8. NFC South
    For the third time in four years, the NFC South winner had single-digit wins. The division has combined for one playoff win in the past four seasons.

    This, of course, is a measure of 2026, not the past. But it doesn’t look especially promising.

    The Panthers finally unseated the Buccaneers atop the division, and Carolina made big moves (Jaelan Phillips, Devin Lloyd) in free agency to try to solidify their status. Still, Bryce Young has been a below-average quarterback at best his entire career, and injuries to OT Taylor Moton, OT Ikem Ekwonu, EDGE Nic Scourton, DL Tershawn Wharton and WR Chris Brazzell III are concerns.

    The Buccaneers haven’t exactly had the smoothest training camp, and the Saints have already lost DL Bryan Bresee for the entire season and No. 8 overall pick Jordyn Tyson for a significant part of it. The Falcons are having a decidedly underwhelming quarterback battle between Tua Tagovailoa, who has failed to impress, and Michael Penix Jr., who is just now starting to participate in 11-on-11 drills.

    Long story short, there’s not a single Super Bowl contender here. As of right now, it’d be a surprise if an NFC South team wins a playoff game.

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    They have to keep Edwards. A guy who wins contested catches has a job. It doesn’t matter if he can’t always separate if he catches the ball anyway. Sometimes you need 6 yards.

    We know they already have 4. Nakua, Adams, Mumpfield, Whittington. They won’t keep more than 6 I think (we’ll see).

    My bet is that Daniels won’t make the practice squad. Edwards could make the practice squad.

    They do seem to be going out of their way to giving Smith a 2nd chance after he cost them a super bowl. Plus he may be the only one out of all of them who has some speed.

    I meant Daniels. Not Edwards. No idea how I mixed those two guys up. Daniels is the guy to keep. Edwards is expendable.

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    Daniels
    Edwards
    Mumpfield
    Presley
    Smith
    Whittington

    I have seen nothing that suggests Smith’s job as returner is an open competition.

    They have to keep Edwards. A guy who wins contested catches has a job. It doesn’t matter if he can’t always separate if he catches the ball anyway. Sometimes you need 6 yards.

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    Having said that. IF he is still A.D. And if Myles is still Myles. And if Young and Turner enter their prime. And if Poona is still a run-stuffing-machine. And if Fiske is in the rotation. …well…Am i just a crazy-ram-homer, or could that be the best DLine in NFL history? Thats gotta be crazy, right?

    Interesting that you left out Stewart and Bailey. Seems like you’re trying to minimize the quality of the DLine.

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    It’s even different from 2000 and 2001 when we were thinking they might do a mini-dynasty, but we knew they had some holes. Then, turned out, they drafted badly, and had injuries, and that was that.

    This team has looked like the team to beat since the McDuffie trade. The Watson signing and the Garrett trade just put a cherry on top.

    And Aaron Donald is coming back, too, so there’s that.

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    Now of course I am just talking about personnel acquisitions. They haven’t won anything yet. And I always remember the 2007 Patz, who went 18-0 through the playoffs and then lost the super bowl. Results are finicky. Luck is part of that.

    But…the Rams do have themselves some players.

    Yeah, given the Rams’ superiority on paper – and it’s analyst-wide, media-wide – there is still only about a 15% chance of them winning the Super Bowl, historically.

    But this team is Loaded.

    Some people point at the LBs as being underwhelming, but the Rams use LBs differently from the way they were used most of our lives. I don’t know what that is, exactly, but they have LBs who do their assignments, and Landman had a really, really good year last year. And their OLB/Edge guys are ferocious. Their secondary is packed with All-Pros and borderline All-Pros. Stafford is among the very best players ever. They are leaking TEs like an overfilled bucket of sand jogging down the street, and their OL starters are ranked, like, 3rd in the league. Williams and Corum are strong enough to make both the running game and passing game deadly, and while neither is elite, they are both good enough to be a feature back in the NFL. Devante Adams is HOF-worthy, and is still productive, leading the league with 14 TDs last year, while 4 guys were tied for 2nd with 11. And Puka is possibly the most ridiculously good WR I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen a lot of great WRs. Then they’ve got McVay. And the culture he’s built. And continuity at DC.

    I have entered the season optimistic about the Rams many times, but this is a higher level. It’s hard to believe the two, long periods of futility the Rams went through. We are observing the pinnacle of Rams history right now. So they had better fucking win it all this year.

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    Well, based on the little bits that we know now, how do you rate the 3 big NFC West teams in comparison to each other? The Rams, the Searocks, and the SF Substationers? I’m honestly asking.

    Rams: +100
    Seahawks: +205
    49ers: +305
    Cardinals: +10000

    This seems right to me. I don’t hold any unconventional views, I’m afraid.

    I think that the Rams and Seahawks were even last year. During the offseason, the Seahawks maintained their core, and stay about the same. Maybe a slight tick back with the loss of Walker. The Rams, meanwhile, got appreciably better in their weak spots: CB and ST.

    The 9ers have Warner and Bosa returning, and added Evans.

    All 3 teams have concerns: The Rams have questions about OL and WR depth. I think they’re okay there, but compared to every other position (except QB), they haven’t proven themselves. They also have the most brutal schedule I’ve ever seen, considering strength of schedule, kickoff times, and travel mileage. And if Stafford and/or Nacua miss time, they’re going to take on water. I’ve been thinking, though, that the Rams’ Defense could end up being the story of the season anyway. This defense looks like they could etch their legacy next to the all-time great defenses, so a dip in offensive production just might not matter. The Rams are better (on paper) than they were last year, and may be the best Rams team we’ve ever seen, and potentially one of the all-time great teams if health allows them to play it through.

    The Seahawks have the post-SB letdown to deal with, and I think that’s a real thing. Maybe McDonald can coach them through that, and maybe the fact that the Rams are getting 90% of the media attention will keep them mentally razor sharp. I think Sam Darnold is “real,” but I think they’ll miss Walker. I think they took slight downgrades at RB, OLB, and S, and did not upgrade anywhere. I think they’re basically the same team. They took some steps back, but not the kind of dropoff that can’t be recovered through development of younger players assuming more responsibility.

    The 49ers main concern is the substation, obviously. Bosa, McCaffrey, and Kittle have had compound injuries, and they’re getting up there in age. Trent Williams enters the season at 38. Evans is past his prime. This is a talented, but older team. Shanahan may be the best coach in the league, though. He’s a guy that makes Kendrick Bourne look like an All-Pro. He’s 11-7 against McVay, btw. And he won some of those games when the 9ers were reeling with injuries. Their secondary is below average, and their DL isn’t good enough to negate that weakness (though it’s good). With that problem, and the likelihood that McCaffrey and/or Kittle blows out a tire…I think they fall short. I expect them to make the playoffs, though, and I don’t like playing them Week One in Australia.

    What do you think?

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    No, it isn’t. It’s the entire goddam list. And while it’s an impressive string of headlines, the only thing in there that really matters is that Pearsall is out for the season. This writer is… uh… overly dramatic.

    And btw, Ricky Pearsall, in 20 career games, has a total of 928 yards and 3 TDs. Those are his career numbers. They’ve been competitive without him.

    The sky is not falling in SF.

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    The aforementioned list is just a handful of the offseason storylines surrounding San Francisco.

    No, it isn’t. It’s the entire goddam list. And while it’s an impressive string of headlines, the only thing in there that really matters is that Pearsall is out for the season. This writer is… uh… overly dramatic.

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    PFF@PFF
    Most receiving yards per route run over last three seasons
    (min 200 targets)

    Puka Nacua 3.19
    Nico Collins 2.75
    Tyreek Hill 2.69
    CeeDee Lamb 2.50
    A.J. Brown 2.48

    That’s not even close. There is a significantly greater gap between the #1 and #2 receivers on that list than between #2 and #5.

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    LAFB Network@LAFBNetwork
    Two preseason games, two wins and ZERO touchdowns allowed by the Rams defense.

    And that’s the B and C squads.

    Lots of depth on defense this year.

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    I dont got a problem with it.

    I don’t, either. Don’t know why anyone would be bothered, unless they are the “sanctity of college athletics” type, but that ship has sailed.

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    49ers Owner was arrested and plead no-contest to something or other involving ‘criminal tools’ and prostitution. You can google it.

    w
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    The “criminal tools” is the only point of interest in this story for me, and this is all I have found so far (The Athletic):

    Cleveland-based attorney Marisa Darden described “criminal tools” as a “fairly nebulous, broad statute” that criminalizes possession of any instrument, substance, device or article designed or adapted for criminal use. She said she has rarely seen it used in situations relating to prostitution and suggested that, in this case, it could have related to the use of an electronic device or a response to an online advertisement. “But that would be a little bit of an aggressive charging posture,” she added.

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    Fom CBS on promising UFA:

    S Nick Andersen, Rams
    A few years ago, I conducted some research that found defensive backs were the most likely undrafted free agents to make an NFL roster. Safety, specifically, is a position that requires a higher level of cerebral understanding and is not necessarily solely reliant on athleticism. Los Angeles, in particular, has done an excellent job identifying these players through the years: Jaylen McCollough, Tanner Ingle and a handful of other Day 3 selections.

    Andersen may be next. In his five collegiate seasons, he amassed eight interceptions. In preseason exposure, he has not been afraid to play downhill and deliver big hits.

    *******

    I guess this is turning into speculation on final 53 after all.

    If Anderson makes the cut, that would probably push Lampkin to the PS.

    The Rams are going to have to expose a 53-worthy player or two as they park guys on the PS.

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    Okay.

    I just think WB (Bailey) will make it.

    I hope he does. From what I’ve read. I hope Lampkin makes it, too. I just don’t think either are a lock.

    49 locks means 4 jobs up for grabs. I think there is one more WR (Daniels?), and one more RB (Hunter?). That leaves room for Bailey and Lampkin, and that’s it.

    Murchison, Dolac, and Thomas are goners, and everybody else. Some obviously go to the PS, but some end up on the Seahawks and 9ers, and other teams like that which are short-handed on talent.

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    Players not getting McVay protection treatment, likely on roster:

    QB-SB, TS
    OL-JD, KT, AA
    TE-MK
    LB-NL,OS, GS
    K-HM
    P-EE

    So that’s 49.

    DL and Edge?

    What do you mean?

    I don’t see anybody else who is not on the bubble. I think Murchison, Dolac, and Thomas are all replaceable. I was just trying to add to the list of “safe” players. I’m not trying to predict a final roster, or anything. I don’t know. But I don’t think any of those 49 players will get cut in the end.

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    TurfShowTimes@TurfShowTimes
    38 players seemingly getting the McVay protection treatment, likely on roster

    Rams 0 snaps pw2:
    QB-MS
    RB-KW, BC, RR
    WR-PN, DA, JW, KM, X
    TE-TH, CP, TF, DA
    OL-AJ, SA, CS, KD, WM, DQ, BL
    DL-KT, PF, BF, TD, TH
    EDGE-MG, BY, JS, DJ
    CB-TM, JW, QL, JW2, EF, ZM
    S-KC, KK, JM

    .

    Players not getting McVay protection treatment, likely on roster:

    QB-SB, TS
    OL-JD, KT, AA
    TE-MK
    LB-NL,OS, GS
    K-HM
    P-EE

    So that’s 49.

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    Geoff Schwartz@geoffschwartz
    You can win games without drafting well if your top end talent is elite which the 49ers have. The question is whether I buy 49ers stock in the future and the answer is no because they’ve drafted poorly.

    The 49ers start three players on offense (depends on the depth chart and reports) that have been drafted in the last 5 drafts. A few of those are 7th round picks.

    It’s better on defense with 6 guys and half are guys they drafted in 2025.

    There’s just no argument they’ve drafted well.

    Ricky Pearsall was mugged and shot his rookie year, and has been disabled by injuries ever since. He’s showed promise when he’s actually been on the field. The buzz on Stribling in camp this year is high, and while the 49ers were widely criticized for picking him in the 1st round, word is that he has a specific skill set that Shanahan wants, and it’s looking good so far in camp.

    They have done better in late rounds than the first round, where they have failed pretty spectacularly. They have not drafted well, but they’ve done well in trades and free agency (mostly bargain FAs). In spite of those spectacular first round failures, they’ve done okay in the draft, probably middle-of-the-packish. They would look better if Pearsall and Aiyuk worked out, but they both derailed for completely different reasons, not talent.

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    Well if he turns out to be a ‘deep threat’ that would be great. But he’s a 4.63 guy. (He seems a little clunky to me)

    40 time doesn’t matter if he’s 6’5 with a big catch radius, which means catching them over his head.

    I don;t know about klunky. He looked fairly smooth for 250 lbs to me.

    My eyeballs told me he was pretty agile and quite tall. zn brought all the numbers in his initial response, and that sort of lines up for me. I didn’t know he averaged 21/yds a reception, but I knew he made some explosive plays.

    Tyler Higbee’s 40 time was 4.77, and you can bet it’s slower than that after everything his knees have been through.

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    I saw only a bit of the game, from somewhere early 3rd quarter until about 4 minutes left when I apparently fell asleep.

    Apart from seeing a lot of unfamiliar names on jerseys, I will say that Simpson looked pretty solid to me. I didn’t see panic or confusion. When he needed an extra beat to throw the ball, he took it, instead of rushing it. That can, of course, get a QB killed, but he seemed to fearlessly stand in there. Also, he showed mobility. He didn’t write himself into the record books, but he looked pretty good, and showed more zip on the ball than I expected. It’s only one preseason game, of course, but if you’re grooming a future QB, you would certainly hope they looked as good as Simpson did in his first ever outing.

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