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znModeratorAccording to @PFF, DT Aaron Donald has the 2nd-best pressure grade (90.7) and the 4th-best defensive grade for interior defensive linemen (89.1). @AaronDonald97 #RamsHouse pic.twitter.com/9pTyLdvROC
— Los Angeles Rams PR (@TheLARamsPR) November 16, 2023
znModeratorWhere I am going to differ is in the defense of terrorism. First there are South African militants who condemned the “neck tie” burnings. So that’s not a universal example of battling apartheid. But my main thing is, everyone who commits terror believes in their hearts it’s in the name of a just cause. That includes the KKK with its lynchings, McVeigh and Oklahoma, the Nazis in their ascent to power, Mussolini’s fascists, and so on…for that matter it includes the illegal settlement mafia that attacks West Bank Palestinians to drive them off their land. If we say to them our cause is true and yours isn’t, they say the same to us.
So I never excuse anything that can just be used by the other side, using the same rationale.
I also don’t equate Hamas with Palestinians.
And in case that sounds like some thin anti-muslim veneer, during the conflict between the Israeli state forces and Hezbollah, I defended Hezbollah.
The current Israeli government promoted Hamas. Not enough people know that yet.
To me the left and wars of liberation have to honestly act like they really are better, not just in their principles but in their tactics. That can be done in ways that are pragmatic and effective, so I don’t accept the Stalin-like argument that the other side plays dirty so you have to too (that’s not addressed to anyone here–it’s something I hear around sometimes when these issues come up).
To quote The Hound (it’s the exchange that starts at 3:20):
znModeratorThe Rams offense is tied for 1st in the NFL in goal to go efficiency (91.7%), 9th in red zone efficiency (59.1%), 9th in fourth down conversation rate (58.3%), and 10th in third down conversation rate (42.1%). #RamsHouse pic.twitter.com/MiSr6SV8BF
— Los Angeles Rams PR (@TheLARamsPR) November 15, 2023
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znModeratorRams QB Matthew Stafford (thumb) gets full workload in at Rams practice. https://t.co/qArnl5LDi9
— Sarah Barshop (@sarahbarshop) November 16, 2023
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Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Rams QB Matthew Stafford said he got a full workload in today. “It was nice to get back out there and get my feet wet again, literally and figuratively.” He says he expects to also practice fully Thursday and Friday. Initially feared injury was worse than a sprain. Now, “I feelpretty confident in my ability to go out there and play at a pretty high level.”
znModeratorKyle Shanahan was asked a question, then the reporter pushed back on him, and Shanahan went on a rant about the difference between an offseason QB coach outside the building and what a position coach does during the week.
"I understand. I don't think you understand." pic.twitter.com/V0qW0Pnveo
— KP (@KP_Show) November 15, 2023
znModeratorhttps://t.co/3vGSfonqvi pic.twitter.com/HDRZmzSJRu
— Rams Brothers (@RamsBrothers) November 16, 2023
znModeratorIn honor of #Seahawks week, let’s take it back to when the #Rams executed arguably the greatest special teams trick play in NFL history. pic.twitter.com/K5xgYVFtpL
— Rams Tapes 🥶 (@RamsTapes) November 16, 2023
znModeratorpff – qb rankings when kept clean:
top 5:
#1 goff
#2 allen
#3 tagovailoa
#4 stafford
#5 stroud pic.twitter.com/Md1QXOT8Qe— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) November 16, 2023
znModerator— Rams Tapes 🥶 (@RamsTapes) November 16, 2023
znModeratorI was always told, when God closes one door….you should listen to your handlers, and market yourself as a new-improved, team-player. w v
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znModeratorExtra time with his family was nice, but the extended wait for his next NFL opportunity was also humbling and challenging for Carson Wentz.
He now has it with the Rams, and wants to use it to show he still has a lot to offer, no matter his role:https://t.co/PUkCk44y0O
— Stu Jackson (@StuJRams) November 16, 2023
znModeratorBelieve it or not, this amounts to a pretty good summary.
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znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRamsSean McVay said QB Matthew Stafford will be a full participant in practice today..Other updates from McVay: Rob Havenstein (calf), Puka Nacua (knee) and Cobie Durant (shoulder) will all be limited in practice today. McVay still expects Havenstein to play vs. Seahawks. Durant is day-to-day, not 100% sure if he’ll play. Nacua being limited is preventative..Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueMatthew Stafford threw the football. Spin and velocity looked normal in limited media viewing portion of practice so noting small sample size (watched individual drills with RBs and WRs). Light sprinkling of rain. Wearing soft brace/wrap around right thumb..McVay says Stafford won’t be limited re. gun/under center stuff.znModeratorRashard Higgins@Rashard_HigginsQB talent is the best it’s ever been. QB Play, some of the worst in a while tbh..Brandon@BrandonJBrandenBig Ben was overshadowed by Brady , Manning, Rodgers and Brees and the occasional QB that balled that season Cam, Ryan , Lamar but the average peak Ben season would be considered the best QB in the league in 2023znModeratorMore on the Rams moving their practice headquarters to Woodland Hills ahead of the 2024 NFL season, including a timeline for the move, what it means for training camp and other details from COO Kevin Demoff:https://t.co/nTHS2s1AD7
— Stu Jackson (@StuJRams) November 15, 2023
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Rams COO Kevin Demoff on timeline for moving practice facility to Woodland Hills ahead of 2024 NFL season, what it means for training camp
Stu Jackson
WOODLAND HILLS, Calif. – When the Rams begin preparing for their 2024 regular season opponents, they will be doing so with their practice facility in a new location.
The franchise on Tuesday announced it would be moving its practice headquarters to Woodland Hills ahead of the 2024 season, with construction work beginning later this week.
“It is nice (to be able to officially make the announcement,” Rams Chief Operating Officer Kevin Demoff said after a celebratory ceremony held at the Topanga Village indoor-outdoor mall, which will be adjacent to the team’s Woodland Hills site. “You heard all these whispers, people in Woodland Hills saying, ‘Oh, I hear the Rams might be coming, who’s buying the Promenade?’ And then it’s, oh, the Anthem building is for sale and maybe you’re buying that, and then we were able to buy the Village. So it is nice to be able to stand up here and say we’re officially coming in 2024, that we do own these 100 acres.”
Demoff said the organization would love to have the temporary practice facility at the Woodland Hills site built by the time the offseason program starts, with the drop-dead date for that move being when the team returns from training camp.
In terms of that temporary setup, Demoff said they’re not going to move anything “except the people,” meaning that rather than move the temporary buildings from Thousand Oaks down the road to Woodland Hills, the Rams will be taking new temporary buildings and assembling something similar to what they currently have at California Lutheran University. According to the press release, that the temporary setup will include “modular trailers that will include office space and meeting rooms for coaches, players, scouts and staff, a weight room and training room, locker room, media room, and meal room,” with two practice fields adjacent to those trailers.
Grass for the practice fields is in the process of being grown.
“We’re gonna go build that new on one side of the practice fields,” Demoff said. “The grass fields we put in will be permanent, so those will be where the permanent fields will go. We’re going to put the temporary facility on the west side of the fields, and ultimately the plan is to build a permanent facility on the north side of the fields, so that way we’ll be able to be at the practice facility while we go build a new permanent facility. Otherwise, it just seemed like there was no reason to announce you were coming to Woodland Hills and actually moving to Woodland Hills.”
Demoff added that the goal is to move the organization’s Agoura Hills business office somewhere in Warner Center in the “near future,” and then combine the football and business offices when the new permanent facility opens for training camp.
When the business and football sides become located closer to one another, Demoff said it will able to give the business side more opportunity to interact with leaders on the football side.
“I think it will be a great experience for them,” Demoff said. “When you sign up to join a sports team, you want to feel and be part of the team, and we haven’t had that point of connection except on gamedays, except at training camp. It will be amazing for our staff, and I think certainly for all of us to be in one place, to have that truly be the heartbeat (of the organization).”
When it comes to training camp plans, Demoff said as of right now camp will not be headquartered in Woodland Hills.
“Our vision has always been, and not just because it would be a little hot to hold training camp here in Woodland Hills, but we’ve always liked the idea of going away a little bit for training camp,” Demoff said. “UC Irvine’s been a great partner. We’ve looked in and around other places within Southern California. When we started at UC Irvine, it was always with the idea of being in Orange County, with the idea to move it, so we’re going to explore that moving forward, but it is not our current plan to hold training camp here. That could change at some point, but we would probably need an indoor facility, or certainly some shade, to make that happen.”
An indoor facility is “certainly one of the things we’re looking at on the map,” according to Demoff.
“The truth is, in California, you don’t need an indoor facility, but it would always be great to build one,” Demoff said. “If we built an indoor facility, you’d be looking at, how could you use it for community uses as well? Do you do something like The Star (the Cowboys’ facility in Frisco, Texas) where you’re playing high school games or other events in it? Are you using it just for a practice facility? Those are all things that we’re really working to look at now. No promises, but (head coach) Sean (McVay) has always wanted an indoor practice facility. But getting out of the wind I know is the first step for him. I know he’s excited about that.”
znModeratorRodrigue, from https://theathletic.com/5060402/2023/11/13/rams-matthew-stafford-carson-wentz/?source=emp_shared_article
That the Rams waited until Week 10 of the regular season to sign Wentz, who had previously made it known through various channels that he’d be willing to be a backup quarterback, was the result of what McVay called “learn(ing) through experiences.” The team selected Stetson Bennett in the fourth round of this year’s NFL Draft but stuck with Rypien (who was with the team through training camp) into the regular season after Bennett was designated to the non-football/illness list Sept. 13. The Rams also tried, and failed, to sign former backup John Wolford off the Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ practice squad, but Wolford was promoted to that team’s 53-man roster and could not be poached.
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I don’t see them beating Cleveland or Baltimore even with Stafford.
With Stafford they are in and can win the Seattle, Arizona, Washington, New Orleans, and NYG games.
If healthy they are capable of upsetting SF.
My view? They could end up anywhere from 6-11 to 9-8.
Odds are very much against a playoff season but this season is just plain not like the 90s or 2007-2011. We’re watching them develop into a team for 2024. They have some good players on both sides of the ball and some good 2023 draft picks. As we know they have money and picks in 24 and from what I am hearing it is a loaded draft.
I am not one of those despairing fans who are on twitter with “time for a coaching change?” tweets.
znModeratorOld enough to remember when Jared Goff was labeled Sean McVay’s puppet who couldn’t handle the blitz. #DetroitLions pic.twitter.com/kXTTJulOfw
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) November 13, 2023
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueSean McVay says the Rams are preparing for and expecting that Matthew Stafford will return this week and he was able to throw – and grip the ball! – in individuals today. They will also get starting RT Rob Havenstein and starting ILB Ernest Jones back..Sarah Barshop@sarahbarshopMcVay said Stafford was able to throw the ball during individual drills during practice today.…Maybe it was the break, a chance to rest and spend time with his newly expanding family that gave back the coach of a 3-6 team some of his signature zip. Seeing with his own eyes in the Rams’ walk-through/drills earlier that day that quarterback Matthew Stafford could throw and grip a football probably didn’t hurt, either..“Matthew should be ready to go,” McVay said. “He was out there taking part in individual (drills) today, he’s making great progress. We are operating with the anticipation and expectation that he is going to be good to go. He’ll be pushing through, but we expect him to be able to start and play and do his thing and lead the way this week.”znModeratorSam Monson@PFF_SamUsing PFF’s Go/No-go model for 4th downs Only two of Dan Campbell’s FIVE fourth-down attempts were a ‘soft-go’ per the numbers. The other three were firmly ‘no-go’. Campbell was radically MORE aggressive than the ‘analytics’, and it worked!November 13, 2023 at 11:55 am in reply to: comics, jokes, one-shot memes, funny tweets, etc. #146752znModeratorfound on quora
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A blonde walks in a bank to get a loan. “I need to borrow $100 for a month,” she says.
The banker frowns, but takes her information anyway. He runs her credit but can’t find a report. “I’m sorry,” he says, “but in the absence of a credit record, we’ll have to charge 20% interest on the loan, and you’ll need to put up collateral.
“What does that mean?” the blonde says.
“It means,” the banker says, “you’ll have to repay us $120, and you’ll need to give us something more valuable to hold onto until you pay us back.”
“Something more valuable?” The blonde says. “How about my Ferrari?”
The banker nearly snorts his coffee all over his desk, but he prides himself on customer service so he soldiers on. He runs the title on the Ferrari and what do you know, the blonde owns it free and clear. “Okay, he says, “I’ll print out the papers.”
“Just so I understand,” the blonde says, “I give you my Ferrari and you give me a hundred dollars, right? And then in a month, I give you $120 and you give me my Ferrari back?”
“Yes,” the banker says, “that’s the deal.”
She signs the paperwork and hands him the keys. He counts out $100 for her and watches her saunter out the door.
A month to the day later, he’s sitting at his desk when the blonde saunters back in. She hands him $120 and says “I get my car back, right?”
“Yep, he says as he hands her the keys. She turns to go but he stops her. “Miss, I really have to ask, why did you use a $140,000 car as collateral on a $100 loan?”
“Oh!” The blonde says. “I got called out of town unexpectedly on business. How else can I park a Ferrari for a month in Manhattan for only $20?”
znModeratorThe Texans have won 5 of their last 7 games
The last time they won 5+ games in a single season was 2019 😳 pic.twitter.com/ShAnCAmCkl
— PFF (@PFF) November 12, 2023
znModerator— Allen Sales (@AllenSales) November 13, 2023
znModeratorMichael Silver@MikeSilverThe 49ers and Seahawks remain tied for the NFC West lead. They meet twice in an 17-day span, beginning Thanksgiving night in Seattle…znModeratorgoff – 5-year gap
2023 vs bolts
2018 vs boltsbtw, what a ballzy 3 & 1 call by campbell / johnson with the game tied in the 4th, eh? pic.twitter.com/aO3MwSvmbB
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) November 13, 2023
znModeratorso in the 12 days since joining the vikings, dobbs has led them to a 2-0 record, led them to an avg of 29 offensive pts per game, and booked a 101.4 qb rating in process?
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) November 13, 2023
znModeratorLooks a lot like, what I said, in a different post, earlier in the week
Yours was a different topic, Jack. This thread was just about watching games today, and along with that, some observations about the league after the games were done. You asked about people would do during bye week and listed a lot of things like going to the movies and clubbing. Not really the same topics. You’re a board regular and a familiar and most welcome member of our community, but as I personally have learned the hard way many times, not every topic takes off.
znModeratorNo one in the NFC West lost this week.
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