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  • #145427
    zn
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    from https://theramswire.usatoday.com/lists/rams-puka-nacua-stats-records-history-nfl/

    Below are eight crazy stats and records from Nacua’s first two weeks of the season, including a few feats that no other player in league history has accomplished. Some stats courtesy of the NFL’s official record release.

    1 Most receptions in a single game by a rookie: 15

    Nacua caught 15 passes for 147 yards in Week 2 against the 49ers, which are the most receptions in a single game by a rookie in NFL history. He did so on 20 targets, which ties Cooper Kupp’s career-high despite Nacua only playing two career games.

    2 Most receptions by a rookie in first two career games in the NFL: 25

    Nacua shattered this record, which was previously held by Earl Cooper of the 49ers. Cooper caught 19 passes in his first two career games in the NFL, so Nacua eclipsed him by six receptions.

    3 First player ever with 10 catches, 100 yards in first two career games

    No player in NFL history had ever caught at least 10 passes for 100 yards in each of his first two games before Nacua did it this season. He had 10 catches for 119 yards in Week 1 and another 15 catches for 147 yards in the second game of the season.

    4 Fifth player with 10 catches, 100 yards in first two games of a season

    Nacua is only the fifth player in NFL history to start a season with at least 10 catches and 100 yards in each of his first two games. That’s not just rookies. That’s all players. The others to accomplish this were Miles Austin in 2010, Isaac Bruce in 1998, Kupp in 2022 and Andre Rison in 1994.

    So of the five players to do this, three are/were Rams.

    5 Third player with at least 25 catches in first two games of a season

    Nacua was three receptions shy of tying the NFL record for the most receptions in the first two games of a season, a record held by Michael Thomas (28). He set that back in 2018 when he also broke the record for the most receptions in a single season, which still stands today at 149.

    Rison also had 26 receptions in the first two games of the 1994 season, making Kupp the third ever to hit 25.

    6 Fourth player in NFL history with 100 yards in first two career games

    Nacua has finished with at least 100 yards in each of his first two games, becoming the fourth rookie ever to start a season that way. Will Fuller (2016), DeSean Jackson (2008) and Don Looney (1940) are the only other receivers to do it.

    7 Most targets ever by a rookie in his debut

    Nacua’s 15 targets last week against the Seahawks were the most ever in a rookie’s debut. Matthew Stafford showed a ton of trust in Nacua to start the year, and that continued on Sunday in Week 2.

    8 Most receiving yards by a Rams rookie in his debut

    In terms of franchise history, his 119 yards last week against the Seahawks were the most ever in a Rams rookie’s debut.

    #145428
    InvaderRam
    Moderator

    he and kupp should be dynamite together.

     

    if he’s supposedly playing the robert woods role. and cooper kupp will presumably play the uhhhh… cooper kupp role, they should complement each other instead of being redundant.

     

    that’s also very encouraging.

    #145430
    Hram
    Participant

    Tutu in the Hakim role?

    #145439
    zn
    Moderator
    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
    Rams’ rookie WR Puka Nacua had 15 receptions for 147 yards Sunday, the most receptions in a single game by a rookie in NFL history. Nacua is the first player in NFL history with at least 10 receptions and 100 receiving yards in each of his first two career games. Nacua is the fifth player in NFL history with at least 10 receptions and 100 receiving yards in each of his team’s first two games of a season, joining Miles Austin in 2010, Isaac Bruce in 1998, Cooper Kupp in 2022 and Andre Rison in 1994.
    #145530
    zn
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    #145532
    wv
    Participant

    Irksome thing is, Kupp is probly not gonna be Kupp this year.    He may come back but he wont be full-throttle.

    Probly wont get to see them together and both healthy till next year.

     

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    #145534
    Zooey
    Participant

    How Rams WR Puka Nacua is growing with ‘Coach Kupp,’ a breakfast club and tough hits

    by Jourdan Rodrigue

    THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — In 2021, it was playfully nicknamed “the breakfast club,” a daily film appointment between
    Los Angeles Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford and receiver Cooper Kupp that took place in the earliest hours of the
    morning.These days, a third player sits in with the two veterans: rookie receiver Puka Nacua.
    “Those two — as much as they’re in the moment for the reps that we’re taking, they’re thinking light-years ahead. ‘Hey, we’ve
    played this team before, on this look we have run this before, we’ve got a different look so when you run this, expect this
    because we’ve seen that before,’”said Nacua, waving his hands to demonstrate how rapid-fire the information comes toward
    him from Stafford and Kupp.“It’s been sweet, it’s been a blessing. Every morning. …They’re next level.I guess that’s a part
    of being a professional.They are the best of the best.I’m trying to build some of those things into my routine.”
    Nacua burst into the NFL’s view in historic fashion.In just two games — minus Kupp, who is on injured reserve with a
    hamstring issue — Nacua has 25 catches for 266 yards and the Rams’ pass game has a 15.9 EPA whenever he is targeted,
    according to TruMedia.This ranks No. 4 among NFL receivers. His 15 catches for 147 yards (on 20 targets) Sunday marked
    the most catches made in a single game by a rookie receiver in NFL history, and he is also the first in NFL history to have
    10-plus catches and at least 100 yards receiving in each of his first two career games.

    Getting to this point has been a group effort, Nacua said, and it started in spring OTAs — just a few weeks after the Rams
    drafted him out of BYU in the fifth round.
    If “the breakfast club”is a graduate-level study program, Nacua had to begin with some “gen eds.” During OTAs, he started
    showing up in the mornings to passing game specialist Jake Peetz’s office — Kupp and Stafford in a room somewhere down
    the hall — to get a base layer of information about the Rams’ passing concepts, from alignment details to formations and how
    the team layers and times routes.
    “Every morning (of OTAs) I was coming in, after practice coming in to see him,”Nacua said.“It slowly started branching out
    from there. (Peetz) got me some reps with the ones, and I was able to work with Stafford and with Coop. (Then, Stafford) is
    giving me coaching points because we got live reps together. … Everybody (started) chiming in.”
    On the field, Nacua worked closely with receivers coach Eric Yarber especially on what his responsibilities would be away
    from the ball. Catching passes well doesn’t guarantee playing time for Rams receivers, who are fully involved in blocking
    concepts along with the tight ends and offensive linemen.If Nacua could grasp the requirements there, he could get on the
    field earlier.
    “It really did start in the run game,”Nacua said.“If we have a closer split, if I’m all the way out wide, how does that change
    our run rules? …That was,I guess (a way) to build into our offense.It starts in our play-action, stuff like that.The ground
    level really was all the run game stuff, and I love that.I found a new way to look at the defense.”
    By Week 2 against San Francisco, Nacua was executing some of the run-blocking assignments the Rams used to give former
    veteran receiver Robert Woods.
    “Those receivers, they got to put their face in there and when they do, it sets a tone for everyone else on offense,” offensive
    coordinator Mike LaFleur said.“It’s good that he’s embraced that.I think that’s the culture he walked into and like I said,
    giving Yarbs (Yarber) a lot of credit for getting that done.”
    As OTAs and training camp continued, Nacua took coaching wherever he could get it.In June, McVay spent time in
    practices working with Nacua on his release off the line of scrimmage.In July, between OTAs and training camp, Stafford
    organized throwing sessions with Nacua, Kupp and other young receivers.In training camp and into the preseason while he
    dealt with a hamstring strain, Kupp spent most practices on the sideline with the receivers and got in Nacua and others’ ears
    after each play. But the other receivers — Tutu Atwell, Van Jefferson and Ben Skowronek — also got in Nacua’s ear.
    “The other guys have been right there along the way, helping me as much as they can,” he said.“As much as I feel like I’m
    learning things, and picking things up, there’s the little nuances (they know), they’ve just been in the offense for a while.
    They’re always willing to help me.

    By the time the season began, Nacua had “graduated”from his morning sessions with Peetz and started sitting in with
    Stafford and Kupp.
    “I’m kind of following Coop, like, ‘Hey, when do you guys come in? Hey, Coop, can I watch with you guys?’”Nacua said
    laughing.“The first couple of meetings,I’m like a fly on the wall. Nothing is really being said to me, they’re just like,
    watching the tape (and) talking to each other.Then they’re like, ‘Oh, Puka, you’re in on this rep? This is what we want you to
    do.’ And I’m like, ‘Oh, you’re talking to me?’I’m so focused the whole time! My ears perk up and I’m like, ‘He’s talking to me
    now.’”
    As the season approached, coaches started to see the young receiver “get it.”LaFleur noticed that when Stafford broke the
    huddle, and Nacua went to his spot, he did so without confusion or indecision.
    “There’s a lot of things that are said in that huddle for a rookie receiver that they’ve never experienced in their life,”LaFleur
    said.“Every guy is going to be a little bit different on how they approach it … I won’t even mention names, but some
    (rookies), when the first parts of the play call are coming in, they’re pointing to what direction they have to break (out) of the
    huddle. You can almost kind of see them playing the play out with their hand and stuff like that. For Puka, he just breaks it
    with confidence — and then he goes.”

    When the Rams traveled to Seattle in Week 1, the younger receivers asked McVay if Kupp could travel with the team so he
    could be on the sideline with them.
    “What was the most powerful thing is that those guys asked,”McVay said.“Usually guys that are on IR don’t make the trips
    to these away games, things like that.Those guys specifically asked because they wanted his feedback, his ability to lead and
    the information that he’s able to give them that can be digestible and applicable. …
    “There’s such a credibility that comes.It’s one thing when we’re saying it, it’s another thing when Cooper is explaining it.To
    be able to articulate it through (the) lens, ‘I’ve been in these exact situations,I know exactly what we’re looking for.’ He was
    right there on the sidelines. He’s ‘Coach Kupp’right now.”
    Against Seattle, Nacua was targeted 15 times by Stafford, and caught 10 passes for 119 yards. He also lined up all across the
    line of scrimmage and became one of the early reads in Stafford’s progression against zone coverage, a sign that the coaching
    staff and quarterback trusted him to account for many of the concepts called for Kupp when he’s healthy.
    In that game, Nacua bruised his ribs on a tough catch across the middle of the field — “welcome to the NFL,” he said — but
    was all smiles, shoots and goshes postgame and said he couldn’t wait to call his mom

    #145535
    Zooey
    Participant

    he and kupp should be dynamite together. if he’s supposedly playing the robert woods role. and cooper kupp will presumably play the uhhhh… cooper kupp role, they should complement each other instead of being redundant. that’s also very encouraging.

    My concern – and it was expressed by Steven Smith – is that Kupp and Nacua are the same guy. Not complementary guys.

    But…I would think a good coach would be able to stress a defense with 2 guys who are that good. And maybe this is where Atwell actually gets to be the lightning.

    #145538
    nittany ram
    Moderator

    he and kupp should be dynamite together. if he’s supposedly playing the robert woods role. and cooper kupp will presumably play the uhhhh… cooper kupp role, they should complement each other instead of being redundant. that’s also very encouraging.

    My concern – and it was expressed by Steven Smith – is that Kupp and Nacua are the same guy. Not complementary guys. But…I would think a good coach would be able to stress a defense with 2 guys who are that good. And maybe this is where Atwell actually gets to be the lightning.

    Kupp and Robert Woods we’re the same guy, and that worked out ok for a few years.

    #145542
    Zooey
    Participant

    Kupp and Robert Woods we’re the same guy, and that worked out ok for a few years.

    I dunno about that. I think Woods’ was notable for his ability to find open space in crucial situations, and make those catches. The thing I see in Kupp and Nacua is the ability to create tight windows, fight for the ball, and then fight for extra yardage when it looks like the play is over.

    How do you see Woods and Kupp as similar?

    #145544
    wv
    Participant

    How in the heck did Kupp last till the 3rd round and Nacua into the 5th round?

    Purty good drafting.

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    #145545
    Zooey
    Participant

    Purty good drafting.

    Avila and Nacua.

    Plus Kobie Turner and Byron Young, starting.

    And some promise in other guys.

    The 2023 draft is looking really, really, uncommonly good at this point. Obviously, the 3-year rule applies, by…my goodness.

    #145548
    nittany ram
    Moderator

    Kupp and Robert Woods we’re the same guy, and that worked out ok for a few years.

    I dunno about that. I think Woods’ was notable for his ability to find open space in crucial situations, and make those catches. The thing I see in Kupp and Nacua is the ability to create tight windows, fight for the ball, and then fight for extra yardage when it looks like the play is over. How do you see Woods and Kupp as similar?

    Neither Kupp nor Woods are speedsters, but they get separation through precise route running.  Kupp takes that ability to another level.

    When the Rams traded Woods, it wasn’t just because of the cap. Snead said they wanted someone with a different skill set because Kupp and Woods were similar players. Then they went after Robinson who had a different skill set – which turned out to be none.  The no skill set.  But in Snead’s defense, having no skills did set him apart from Kupp and Woods.

    #145550
    Zooey
    Participant

    Neither Kupp nor Woods are speedsters, but they get separation through precise route running.  Kupp takes that ability to another level. When the Rams traded Woods, it wasn’t just because of the cap. Snead said they wanted someone with a different skill set because Kupp and Woods were similar players. Then they went after Robinson who had a different skill set – which turned out to be none.  The no skill set.  But in Snead’s defense, having no skills did set him apart from Kupp and Woods.

    So you hate the pick of Nacua then.

    Okay, well that’s bold. And you’re the first.

    #145574
    zn
    Moderator

    How Rams WR Puka Nacua is growing with ‘Coach Kupp,’ a breakfast club and tough hits

    By Jourdan Rodrigue

    https://theathletic.com/4879483/2023/09/21/puka-nacua-rams-receiver-rookie-cooper-kupp/?source=emp_shared_article

    THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — In 2021, it was playfully nicknamed “the breakfast club,” a daily film appointment between Los Angeles Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford and receiver Cooper Kupp that took place in the earliest hours of the morning.

    These days, a third player sits in with the two veterans: rookie receiver Puka Nacua.

    “Those two — as much as they’re in the moment for the reps that we’re taking, they’re thinking light-years ahead. ‘Hey, we’ve played this team before, on this look we have run this before, we’ve got a different look so when you run this, expect this because we’ve seen that before,’” said Nacua, waving his hands to demonstrate how rapid-fire the information comes toward him from Stafford and Kupp. “It’s been sweet, it’s been a blessing. Every morning. … They’re next level. I guess that’s a part of being a professional. They are the best of the best. I’m trying to build some of those things into my routine.”

    Nacua burst into the NFL’s view in historic fashion. In just two games — minus Kupp, who is on injured reserve with a hamstring issue — Nacua has 25 catches for 266 yards and the Rams’ pass game has a 15.9 EPA whenever he is targeted, according to TruMedia. This ranks No. 4 among NFL receivers. His 15 catches for 147 yards (on 20 targets) Sunday marked the most catches made in a single game by a rookie receiver in NFL history, and he is also the first in NFL history to have 10-plus catches and at least 100 yards receiving in each of his first two career games.

    Getting to this point has been a group effort, Nacua said, and it started in spring OTAs — just a few weeks after the Rams drafted him out of BYU in the fifth round.

    If “the breakfast club” is a graduate-level study program, Nacua had to begin with some “gen eds.” During OTAs, he started showing up in the mornings to passing game specialist Jake Peetz’s office — Kupp and Stafford in a room somewhere down the hall — to get a base layer of information about the Rams’ passing concepts, from alignment details to formations and how the team layers and times routes.

    “Every morning (of OTAs) I was coming in, after practice coming in to see him,” Nacua said. “It slowly started branching out from there. (Peetz) got me some reps with the ones, and I was able to work with Stafford and with Coop. (Then, Stafford) is giving me coaching points because we got live reps together. … Everybody (started) chiming in.”

    On the field, Nacua worked closely with receivers coach Eric Yarber especially on what his responsibilities would be away from the ball. Catching passes well doesn’t guarantee playing time for Rams receivers, who are fully involved in blocking concepts along with the tight ends and offensive linemen. If Nacua could grasp the requirements there, he could get on the field earlier.

    “It really did start in the run game,” Nacua said. “If we have a closer split, if I’m all the way out wide, how does that change our run rules? … That was, I guess (a way) to build into our offense. It starts in our play-action, stuff like that. The ground level really was all the run game stuff, and I love that. I found a new way to look at the defense.”

    By Week 2 against San Francisco, Nacua was executing some of the run-blocking assignments the Rams used to give former veteran receiver Robert Woods.

    “Those receivers, they got to put their face in there and when they do, it sets a tone for everyone else on offense,” offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur said. “It’s good that he’s embraced that. I think that’s the culture he walked into and like I said, giving Yarbs (Yarber) a lot of credit for getting that done.”

    As OTAs and training camp continued, Nacua took coaching wherever he could get it. In June, McVay spent time in practices working with Nacua on his release off the line of scrimmage. In July, between OTAs and training camp, Stafford organized throwing sessions with Nacua, Kupp and other young receivers. In training camp and into the preseason while he dealt with a hamstring strain, Kupp spent most practices on the sideline with the receivers and got in Nacua and others’ ears after each play. But the other receivers — Tutu Atwell, Van Jefferson and Ben Skowronek — also got in Nacua’s ear.

    “The other guys have been right there along the way, helping me as much as they can,” he said. “As much as I feel like I’m learning things, and picking things up, there’s the little nuances (they know), they’ve just been in the offense for a while. They’re always willing to help me.”

    By the time the season began, Nacua had “graduated” from his morning sessions with Peetz and started sitting in with Stafford and Kupp.

    “I’m kind of following Coop, like, ‘Hey, when do you guys come in? Hey, Coop, can I watch with you guys?’” Nacua said laughing. “The first couple of meetings, I’m like a fly on the wall. Nothing is really being said to me, they’re just like, watching the tape (and) talking to each other. Then they’re like, ‘Oh, Puka, you’re in on this rep? This is what we want you to do.’ And I’m like, ‘Oh, you’re talking to me?’ I’m so focused the whole time! My ears perk up and I’m like, ‘He’s talking to me now.’”

    As the season approached, coaches started to see the young receiver “get it.” LaFleur noticed that when Stafford broke the huddle, and Nacua went to his spot, he did so without confusion or indecision.

    “There’s a lot of things that are said in that huddle for a rookie receiver that they’ve never experienced in their life,” LaFleur said. “Every guy is going to be a little bit different on how they approach it … I won’t even mention names, but some (rookies), when the first parts of the play call are coming in, they’re pointing to what direction they have to break (out) of the huddle. You can almost kind of see them playing the play out with their hand and stuff like that. For Puka, he just breaks it with confidence — and then he goes.”

    When the Rams traveled to Seattle in Week 1, the younger receivers asked McVay if Kupp could travel with the team so he could be on the sideline with them.

    “What was the most powerful thing is that those guys asked,” McVay said. “Usually guys that are on IR don’t make the trips to these away games, things like that. Those guys specifically asked because they wanted his feedback, his ability to lead and the information that he’s able to give them that can be digestible and applicable. …

    “There’s such a credibility that comes. It’s one thing when we’re saying it, it’s another thing when Cooper is explaining it. To be able to articulate it through (the) lens, ‘I’ve been in these exact situations, I know exactly what we’re looking for.’ He was right there on the sidelines. He’s ‘Coach Kupp’ right now.”

    Against Seattle, Nacua was targeted 15 times by Stafford, and caught 10 passes for 119 yards. He also lined up all across the line of scrimmage and became one of the early reads in Stafford’s progression against zone coverage, a sign that the coaching staff and quarterback trusted him to account for many of the concepts called for Kupp when he’s healthy.

    In that game, Nacua bruised his ribs on a tough catch across the middle of the field — “welcome to the NFL,” he said — but was all smiles, shoots and goshes postgame and said he couldn’t wait to call his mom.

    “It was a cool moment for it to be going as well as it was,” he said, “but also, you realize this is a grown man’s game. Everybody out here is ready. If your head is not on a swivel and your feet aren’t locked into the ground, they will put you on your butt. They won’t be lying you down to put you to bed, they’re trying to put you to sleep in a completely different way.”

    In Week 2, Nacua was targeted 20 times by Stafford. He caught 15 passes for 147 yards.

    Coaches and teammates who have been around Nacua since his humble draft selection in April are not shocked by any of it. Nacua is still growing, and asking questions, and seeking out more coaching.

    “He’s been making plays since OTAs,” LaFleur said after Week 1, “(but) Puka has not ‘arrived’ by any means. He had a great game (in Seattle) and no one was surprised by it.

    “Cool thing about Puka is he’s going continue to build off that and continue to work the right way. He’s not satisfied with any of that. I don’t know what his individual goals are. I don’t think he even cares. I think he’s just doing whatever he can to help the team, whether it’s in the run game, pass game, whatever he has to do. I know Puka’s got the right mindset to get that done.”

    #145580
    InvaderRam
    Moderator

    (73.236.54.8) How in the heck did Kupp last till the 3rd round and Nacua into the 5th round?

     

    i think i read that nacua had a third round grade on him but injuries pushed him down. i still think it’s a legitimate concern. and i think he needs to learn to sometimes just go down. he absorbs a lot of punishment.

     

    i think that’s his main issue. health. but he’s a young dude. a lot of potential. it’s kinda funny actually. he’s got that youthful energy. but he prepares like a veteran. that’s a good combination.

    #145581
    zn
    Moderator

    #145592
    zn
    Moderator
    Sarah Barshop@sarahbarshop
    Puka Nacua holds the NFL record for most catches (25) by any player in his first three NFL games. He has only played two. Anquan Boldin previously held the record with 23 receptions in his first three games back in 2003. (h/t@NFL)
    #145607
    zn
    Moderator

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    #145609
    zn
    Moderator

    They talk about Nacua for the first couple of minutes.

    .

    #145615
    InvaderRam
    Moderator

     

    i don’t know for sure.  this is just my impression.  but i get the sense that kupp entered the league a much more polished receiver than nacua.  he came in a couple years older, and he was more developed physically as well.

     

    i’m not saying that nacua will be as good as kupp.  but as much as he has produced in the first two games of his career, i still see a raw receiver with huge upside.  that’s what excites me the most.  he’s gotta stay healthy though.  and he’s not the most athletic receiver out there.  but he’s strong.  he’s tough.  he’s got the instincts.  if he can master the technique.  and i don’t see why he can’t.  he’s playing alongside a master technician.  and he already seems to have developed a bond with him.

     

    he and steve avila.  and i should mention kobie turner as well.  the reports and highlights i’m seeing of those guys.  it’s given me hope that the rams future is bright.  this could be one heckuva rookie class.

    #145622
    nittany ram
    Moderator

    I see Puka is listed as questionable this week and played last week with sore ribs.

    Gotta wonder if he can survive an entire season getting so many touches a game.

    I think not.   Kupp coming back in a couple weeks is the best thing that could happen to him.

    #145623
    zn
    Moderator

    This vid does Puka and Tutu too (too).

    #145644
    Zooey
    Participant

    Just did a quick search to see what draft reports were like on Nacua, and the one thing that came up consistently is his tendency to miss a lot of games due to injury. Quite a few comments about his tenacity, and YAC.

    #145780
    InvaderRam
    Moderator

    • This reply was modified 7 months, 1 week ago by InvaderRam.
    #145812
    zn
    Moderator
    NFL Rookie Watch@NFLRookieWatxh
    Puka Nacua currently has more receptions (39) than Justin Jefferson and Davante Adams. More receiving yards (501) than Stefon Diggs and Keenan Allen. Averages more separation (3.2 yards) than Tyreek Hill and AJ Brown. Averages more yards after catch per reception (4.7) than Amon-Ra St. Brown and Terry McLaurin.
    #145821
    zn
    Moderator

    #145837
    zn
    Moderator

    Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
    Only 14 wide receivers have more than 80 “run-blocking snaps” via PFF. Puka Nacua is one of them. Nacua and Zay Flowers are the only rookies on that list.

    Among those 14 WRs, Puka Nacua’s 75.2 run-blocking grade ranks 2nd behind Josh Reynolds and ahead of Amon-Ra St. Brown.

    #145846
    zn
    Moderator

    They discuss Nacua at 2:10 in. It’s a good one.

     

    #145847
    InvaderRam
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