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ZooeyModeratorMy concern is we could be one and out in the playoffs. Our field goal kicker is trash, and our secondary is trash. Derion Kendrick starting, means to me, no one else is as good as him, on the roster. It is sad, you look in free agency for 2024, it is not that good either, based on what’s out there.
They don’t need free agency and are frankly better off just signing their own guys. In fact they really don’t have money to make a huge splash. Remember what the naysayers predicted for this season. That it was an awful team, too young, and years away. Will the 2nd youngest team in the league have some holes? Sure. But in the process of proving the naysayers wrong, the Rams either found or proved they had already found a long list of players: Witherspoon (FA, vet minimum) Lake (low pick, 2022, came through) Young (2023 3rd rounder) Jones (who we knew about but he stepped up to another level) Turner (2023 3rd rounder) Brown (another in a long list of Rams budget draft pick NTs) Jackson (UDFA becomes a starting left tackle) Avilla (expected of a 2nd round pick but still) Dotson (budget trade) Allen (very promising rookie) Nacua (5th rounder competing for OROY) Robinson (another vet minimum FA) Williams (didn’t have much of a chance in 2022, stepped up in 2023) They still have holes but not even the most optimistic observer predicted all of that. So why can’t they keep it up in 2024? Draft picks, UDFAs, “ronin” signings, budget trades. They don’t need an expensive FA. This team is ahead of schedule and has already demonstrated that it knows how to find players. But you can’t expect the 2nd youngest team in the league to completely “there” yet so 2023 is just for starters. They have 11 picks in 2024 plus enough cap space to keep a number of their own UFAs. Plus they have a number of top notch position coaches, including Ryan Wendell, who just might be the best OL coach they’ve had since Hudson Houck back in the 80s (and the Rams have had many good OL coaches, it’s just that Wendell very well may be the best of the lot outside of Houk). …
Yep.
I think the Rams need to add another CB, an effing PK, and depth everywhere else, and they’re in the SB hunt next season.
Health matters as much as talent, and there’s nothing you can do about the former. And we know the difference between a bottom unit and a top unit can be one guy. The Rams have a lot of picks next year, and they’re a pretty good football team as it is right now. They need another quality CB, and some dude who can kick the ball accurately.
ZooeyModeratorYou guys don’t know the first thing about tanking. If you want to tank, you play the starters so they all get injured. That way you end up with higher draft picks in 2024. Which would then give them a chance to build a team capable of going to the playoffs.
LOL
I tell y’all what.
I’m fine with the Rams losing their first game in the playoffs. I will allow myself about 60 seconds to have a good cry about it, then I’m going to celebrate one of the most interesting and hopeful seasons I’ve experienced as a Rams fan.
Seriously, there was a LOT of talk – an Expectation, really – that the Rams were headed for Caleb Williams.
Now I never believed that. I said from the beginning I thought they were ~.500 team, but they are better than that when they have KW and MS healthy. And the defense, though weak in the secondary, is much, much better than I expected. ST is worse, but there ya go.
ZooeyModeratorIn a season of surprises, this isn’t one of them.
ZooeyModeratorEnh. I’ve seen all this too many times now. Somebody doing really well on a line with Aaron Donald. I dunno how good Turner really is. He’s certainly played well, and he’s ‘solid’ and he was a great draft pick. But more than that, I dunno. w v
Yeah, that’s my question, too.
However, it is clear to me that he should win DROY because.
ZooeyModeratorFirst off, Chicago is going to trounce the Packers. Its a lock. I will bet Nittany’s soul on that. Second, i like the Rams chances against Dallas in Dallas. I actually like their chances against Dallas more than Detroit. Plus, beating the Cowboys AND the 49ers on their march to another Super Bowl beating the Ravens — in this ‘retooling’ year, is a nice story.
And if GB does lose to Chi, then it’s likely that Seattle would get the 7 seed. That sends the Rams to Detroit. And I don’t know why I assumed GB would beat the Bears. I believe I have heard that Chi has been playing better recently, and GB is certainly a mediocre team.
The playoff bracket is reseeded after round 1, right? So if the Rams win their game, they go to SF where the 9ers will be coming off a bye.
Okay, whatever.
ZooeyModeratorAnd what a weird F’ing situation in the last week of the regular season. 49ers dont need it. Rams dont need it. What will they do?
That’s actually a good point/question.
The Rams might find more value in resting some guys before the playoff game than in going all out for the 6 seed. Maybe get Nacua the rookie records, and then put in the JV team.
ZooeyModeratorThe Packers are the only team that can overtake the Rams for the No. 6 seed, so their game against the Bears is the only other matchup that can affect Los Angeles’ seeding. If the Rams lose and the Packers beat Chicago, Green Bay will be the No. 6 seed based on its head-to-head tiebreaker over Los Angeles
Well, that’s unfortunate, since that’s probably what will happen, in which case the Rams go to Dallas where the Cowboys are unbeaten this year.
ZooeyModeratorSo… the Rams have locked up the 6th seed? Is that so?
ZooeyModeratorwow. what a season. unbelievable. i’d like a win next week though.
I want a win the week after that.
One playoff win will send me into orbit.
I’m happy anyway. This season is already a Win, as far as I’m concerned. They can lose next week, and in the wildcard, and I’m still walking out of the casino a happy man.
This is/was a great year.
House money.
ZooeyModeratorI can’t believe that with 8 billion people on this planet, there aren’t 32 of them who can kick a damn ball through the uprights. That is all.
indeed. a planet that’s filled with soccer players at every corner of the world. There’s got to be someone much more capable than freaking Haver-sick
Well, it’s interesting, isn’t it?
Kickers matter.
And there are, like, 2,000 college football teams, all with a placekicker. Plus all the soccer players who can kick the hell out of a ball, but can’t play soccer for whatever reason.
What the hell?
Gotta be a bartender somewhere who can kick the bloody ball. Right?
ZooeyModeratorI can’t believe that with 8 billion people on this planet, there aren’t 32 of them who can kick a damn ball through the uprights.
That is all.
December 31, 2023 at 12:31 pm in reply to: praise for Stafford after TNF (definitive article posted 1/9) #148091
ZooeyModeratorThe marriage of McVay and Stafford is so effective. I dont think it can ever by over-stated just how great it must be for McVay to have a veteran with as much mental-power and experience as Matthew Stafford. Now that Brady has retired, who is the top QB-brain active on the grid-iron? If it aint Stafford, I dunno who it would be. w v
I am stunned by how good Matthew Stafford is. More so this season than the SB season. He was good that year, but good lord almighty.
That “No Look” throw in the Super Bowl was Something Else. It was not just a “cool throw.” There is a good chance that that pass would not have been completed, if it weren’t for the fact that it was a No Look pass. That LB was right there. He was smack in the sweet spot of that passing lane. And Stafford’s “misdirection gaze” made that dude lean slightly to his left, and by the time he saw where the ball was going, he just couldn’t quite reverse his momentum enough to get his fingertips on that pass, and that was a HUGE play.
But now it seems like I see that freakshit from Stafford every single fucking game. The stakes aren’t as high, so maybe if we are judging passes like a Diving judge, and taking context into account, the Super Bowl pass was the highwater mark. But this year, it’s like he is making those throws without anybody paying much attention to it. He is doing it all the time. Roll to the left, throw cross-body to the right, splitting the legs of a LB, and darting the ball between 2 guys in the secondary who stretch out within 6 inches of the ball, right into the hands of some goddamn receiver nobody heard of before this year. With broken bones and probably a collapsed lung. It’s ridiculous. I am beginning to realize that I am deeply in love with Matthew Stafford.
I’m going to say it right now: I think he’s better than Pat Haden was.
December 30, 2023 at 10:36 am in reply to: praise for Stafford after TNF (definitive article posted 1/9) #148066
ZooeyModeratorroberto clemente@rclemente2121 just thinking out loud…. stafford’s last 5 games: qb ratings ———– 120.7 118.0 103.1 110.1 121.1 and —– > 4-1 record > 14 tds, 1 int > led offense to 31.6 offensive pts / gm avg > hung 34 on the browns, 29 on the ravens
It just makes you wonder what Stafford could be doing if he wasn’t washed up.
ZooeyModeratorLos Angeles Rams PR@TheLARamsPR According to @PFF, the Rams have four receivers in the top 25 (for receivers with at least 20% of snaps played) in run blocking grades. -Nacua is t-5th (72.4) – Kupp is 12th (67.3) – Robinson is 18th (65.1) – Atwell is 25th (62.7)That is astonishing.
4 of the top 25.
The other 31 teams split the remaining 21 guys, and that means at least ten teams have nobody in the top 25.
That’s coaching. That’s culture. That’s winning football.
I do not look forward to Sean McVay’s inevitable move to the showbiz side of the game.
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ZooeyModeratorRam fans know all about Ernest
And we understand the Importance of being that.
ZooeyModeratorThat would mean the Rams would have to lose another game this season, and I don’t see how that can happen.
The football gods say: “that happens if the 9ers want to redeem themselves by beating a fiesty division rival.”
The way you framed that…sounds like you think it’s up to the 49ers. Honestly, I just hope that Nittany doesn’t see this post because it will just confirm his worst fears about you.
Now, I didn’t get to see more than about 5 minutes last night, but one of those minutes that I saw featured a Guard getting an owie, and the talkers saying that the 49ers were going to be forced to bring in their last OL on the active roster, and that Trent Williams was also in a jacuzzi, if not on an operating table.
I am also informed that Brock Purdy was also in pain, and even at full health the man is never mistaken for Matthew Stafford (9).
I forcefully reject your entire post.
From this point forward, I am Mr. Arrogant. The Rams have the entire NFL in the bag. That’s my line, and I will not be deterred.
ZooeyModeratorThe Seahawks could finish 10-7 while the Packers and Rams finish 9-8. If that scenario were to happen, the Rams would miss the playoffs.
That would mean the Rams would have to lose another game this season, and I don’t see how that can happen.
ZooeyModeratorWe must burn sage and manifest crippling injuries for that north-calif team.
I’m on it.
I am up to date on the latest meditation/curse techniques.
ZooeyModeratorHere’s what they were good at in 2023 and it’s not hard to assume they can keep being good at it.
Yeah, I dunno. 2023 is going to grow into a legend on this board, I think. This is easily the greatest off-season this century, and arguably since some of those drafts in the early 70s. The only year that could give it a fight would be ’99, when they got Trent Green, Torry Holt, and Marshall Faulk. I think they got Dre’ Bly that year, too.
As you acknowledge, their 2nd-round pick history is checkered, at best, and they have no history of 1st-round picks. They have also have some moves that they’ve botched, Allen Robinson being the most recent example. I’m not sure they “figured it out,” so much as just had a hot streak.
There is plenty of evidence, however, that they are better than most teams at evaluating talent, and getting the “right” type of players, both for their schematic needs, and for the culture. (They also get rid of guys who don’t fit).
I just happen to think that they did so damn well this year that even if this coming off-season is just average for them, they are on pace to be one of the top 3 or 4 favorites going into next season. They are going to get a lot of primetime games on their schedule next year.
Anyway, 11 draft picks is a lot. Not only could they acquire more, as you point out, they might also do the unprecedented, and package some of those picks to move up. I mean, if they could snag both an OT and and Edge that they really, really like in the early part of the draft, they might do that. Or a CB. Or they might package those picks in a trade for some stud on the last year of his contract (Brian Burns?).
I tell you what, though. We have ourselves a damn good storyline going on right in front of us. This has been a famously fun season, and the future looks pretty goddam good.
They had better beat the Giants. That’s all I can say. I’m emotionally invested in this team right now, and I am looking for a payday.
ZooeyModeratorI was sorry to see S J-D go, but $8m/ year is a lot.
Meanwhile, Nacua signed a four-year, $4,084,977 contract with the Rams, including a $244,976 signing bonus and an average annual salary of $1,021,244. That’s value.
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ZooeyModeratorIf they win this one they have a winning season (9 wins) no matter what happens the following week against SF.
And a 92% chance of making the playoffs.
At this point, I think the Rams are playing with House money. They have exceeded the most optimistic expectations for this season.
Last 5 games, the Rams have averaged 32.4 points per game, and 434 yards per game (rounded up slightly). Against the league’s 14 game stats, that would rank –>
points per game: 1st
yards per game: 1st
And let it be noted that they played the Browns and Ravens defenses in that stretch, as well as the Saints who had not given up a TD in their last 2 games.
Stafford is healthy. The OL has gelled. Williams has taken off. Nacua and Robinson came out of nowhere.
ZooeyModeratorRandom Thoughts:
Looks like the Rams are trending towards a first round matchup with the Lions. That will be a memorable matchup no matter what happens in the game, and I would expect a barn burner.
The Rams have flawed special teams, pass rush, and secondary, and they won’t survive a 4-game playoff gauntlet, but they will go toe-to-toe with anyone they face.
I heard somebody on the radio this morning say that the one team the 49ers do not want to see in the playoffs is the Rams, and I got to thinking about that, and I think he’s right. The 49ers have beaten Jacksonville, as well as Dallas and Philadelphia, and in my view they are clearly the team to beat in the NFL. Without looking, I know they are the SB favorites in the betting circles right now. That is an excellent football team.
And they really haven’t got much to fear from Philly or Dallas, imo, especially with home field advantage. Those are good football teams, and they won’t go down without a fight, but the 9ers are favorites there.
The Rams familiarity with them, though, combined with an offense that is rolling right now – that’s the team that would have the best chance of upsetting them.
I don’t think the Rams will get that far, but if they do… Jiminy Cricket.
I think that threat alone will make Shanahan take Week 18 seriously. I expect the 9ers to come out and play that game. They are not going to fold. I don’t think so. I think Shanahan is coaching to win it all this year, and he won’t take his foot off the gas. The 9ers get a first round bye, so they will have all the extra rest as well as home field for their game against whatever sad football team wins the South anyway. And you have to put your rival away. You have to do that. Even if the game means nothing in the standings.
December 22, 2023 at 11:39 am in reply to: praise for Stafford after TNF (definitive article posted 1/9) #147806
ZooeyModerator.@RamsNFL Stafford keeping the play alive. DRob been a great addition to the offense in last month. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/LJpNAqCGPq
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) December 22, 2023
This side-armed pass, rolling left and throwing against the grain is as good a pass as you will ever see. Stafford made at least 2 other precision throws to Robinson, the one down the left sideline, and the TD pass. He also nailed Nacua on the opening play of the second half. He gets the velocity right. He gets the angle right. He puts the ball exactly where it needs to be. He makes throws before the WR even breaks. He improvises well. He makes multiple reads.
Stafford does this every week. He makes it look easy. He is one of the all-time elite QBs. There are QBs that have thrown as well as Stafford, but nobody can throw it any better. If he can get one more Lombardi before he retires, he is a first ballot HOF.
ZooeyModeratorcan someone help me get my helmet on straight so I can continue to rip this NFL apart.
LOL.
I’m used to great analysis from Baldy. That’s the first time I recall a comic internal monologue.
ZooeyModeratorCowherd is right again. It’s amazing how few national guys get beyond platitudes. Cowherd and Eisen actually know what they’re talking about.
As exciting as this season is, Cowherd is right to point out that the Rams don’t have enough pass rush, give up the deep ball, and have substandard special teams. And that’s enough to keep them from getting to the NFC championship game.
And that’s where the Rams will invest this offseason, I think. They can’t be happy with the CBs, and Havrasik is gone.
ZooeyModeratorBTW zn, I think that I take your game day work on this board for granted. I really like scrolling though everything you post here before and after games. It’s nice to have everything in one place. Thank you.
Ditto.
zn makes this board what it is.
Thanks.
ZooeyModeratorSloppy play from the punt block to the TD two plays later, but otherwise the Rams owned the Saints pretty much the whole game.
Saw Durant give up the TD which reminded me I hadn’t seen #1 out there all night.
This team is getting it done. Gave up 35 yards rushing total, 19 to Kamara. Saints leaned heavily into the passing game all night. And they went for it on 4th down early and often. It’s like they knew they were giving up 30, and planned for a shootout.
Now they get to enjoy the holidays while everyone else is working. Get a nice rest, and off to the big apple.
Sorry we didn’t get to see Wentz.
ZooeyModeratorKyren Williams has been the most successful running back in Matthew Stafford’s career
This reads like a Mea Culpa for Stafford.
The guy played with Barry Sanders, Alex Karras, and Night Train Lane, so I really think it’s the uniform that has helped Stafford more than anything else.
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