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  • #148891
    zn
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    What are they saying about 2023 and prospects for 2024

    #148979
    InvaderRam
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    i don’t know if this belongs here but right now i’m wondering about davis allen. i don’t know what the kid’s mental makeup is like, but he’s gotta realize the opportunity in front of him right now. higbee most likely is not ready for the start of the season. there aren’t really many viable candidates besides him. long maybe but he ended the season with an injury. he really seemed to step it up a little bit at the end of the season. my guess is he’s gotta get the blocking down because he looks like a vacuum catching the ball. not very fast or agile, but he can jump. he’s got good ball skills and he’s a huge target. he’s only 22 so he can get much much stronger. it’s all right there for him to make a kyren like leap from his rookie to sophomore seasons. maybe that’s going too far. he doesn’t need to be that good. but at least good enough to be an adequate replacement for higbee.

    #148991
    Zooey
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    I don’t know if this belongs here, either. Is this devoted to news, or is analysis welcome? If this belongs in a different thread, then by all means, move it.

    The marvelous Jourdan Rodrigue on off-season priorities.

     

    Five Rams’ offseason priorities — OL investment, tough conversations — and one big question

    By Jourdan Rodrigue
    Jan 23, 2024

    The Rams are currently in the after-action review of a 2023 season during which they overachieved relative to the experience level of their roster, and outside expectations.

    Ten wins, a narrow wild-card loss, an offense that got back into the top 10 in the NFL and the emergence of a strong rookie class — not bad, right?

    They did it by going back to some of their fundamentals as coaches and executives. General manager Les Snead preached discipline from last offseason into the trade deadline, where the Rams had previously spent big capital (money and draft picks), and his scouting and personnel departments were patient and intentional about the players they selected in the draft and veteran free agency.

    The 2024 season, it seems, is set up to reward them for that discipline. They will have around $40 million in workable cap space (estimations vary up until the new league year) and will wipe most of their dead money off the books. They’ll have their first-round pick and a full slate underneath it. Some of their top players are heading into only the second or third years on their initial contracts. But success is not a given. How can the Rams avoid regression in 2024?

    “From this point forward, a lot of messaging will be, ‘OK, you got to this point and you’ll just move forward next year,’” Snead said. “What we do know is, we can reason that next year is gonna be different. We’ll be a different team. We’re not gonna be able to just show up and hop back on the train and be in rhythm. That took a lot of work. And I think the thing that we can do — what you can apply from this year — is, last year we really said ‘let’s come in every day and try to do something every day so that the collective can play quality football.’ We never talked about having more points than the other team, just quality football.

    “The lesson would be not to come in and think, ‘OK, now this is what we do, and now we’ll have 11 wins over 10 (wins).’”

    Setting the table in the offseason is all-important. Here are five priorities:

    1. Continued investment in the offensive line 

    The moves the Rams made along their offensive line in the draft and via trade — plus a scheme change in their run game — paid dividends. Rookie Steve Avila will start for them at left guard for a long time. Left tackle Alaric Jackson, an undrafted free agent, got better as the season progressed. Coleman Shelton was consistently solid at center. Right guard Kevin Dotson, whom the Rams traded for in August, was one of the top guards in the NFL in 2023 and paired very well with Avila. Right tackle Rob Havenstein is still the veteran and captain of the group. They also invested in a four-person coaching staff, from position coach Ryan Wendell to assistants Zak Kromer and Nick Jones, and consultant Mike Munchak.

    Jackson is a restricted free agent, so subject to a tender. Shelton is an unrestricted free agent, as is Dotson. Snead indicated that at least trying to re-sign Dotson is a goal of the Rams this spring, but he will have a competitive market.

    “I would bet that he’ll definitely have a marketplace, for sure, people are gonna want him to come play football for them — we’re one of those teams,” said Snead, adding that the process could take some time. “… But I can say, too, agents will call (and) we’ll start engineering and designing kind of a blueprint, more of a timeline of communication so that each step of the way they know where we stand.”

    The Rams may need a right guard, or a center, or both. Even if they are able to keep Dotson, continuing to add for the future along the offensive line is important and should be a priority for a team that learned the hard way in 2022 what could happen if multiple linemen got hurt at once.

    It’s important to remember that just because the Rams have resources again, it doesn’t mean they will burn through them all or over-extend their long-term financial plans in the case of a competitive contract discussion. Both Snead and coach Sean McVay have reiterated this point through the start of the offseason. Don’t be surprised if the Rams aren’t splashy in the early days and weeks of free agency.

    2. Re-invest resources into 2 premier positions and 1 ‘abnormal’ position

    The Rams historically have viewed a couple of positions as “premier,” meaning they are comfortable putting a lot of financial resources and/or draft capital there whether the player was developed in-house or acquired in a trade: outside linebacker/pass rush, quarterback, cornerback and, in very rare cases, receiver (Cooper Kupp, who was also a homegrown player).

    In 2023, they stayed young and/or financially disciplined at those spots, particularly pass rusher and cornerback. Rookie Byron Young emerged as a starting outside linebacker with a bright future. Elsewhere, there are clear holes to fill. The Rams badly need another pass rusher on the outside and this year could afford to go the “veteran at the end of first contract/free agent” route for the right player. It could be argued that they need two cornerbacks, too. They have had success with a “pay one, draft and develop the other” strategy with their outside corners.

    One position outside their typical team-building model that could merit a rare contract extension is inside linebacker. Ernest Jones has emerged as a team captain and core leader of the defense. Jones is entering the final year of his contract.

    “Obviously he’s someone who is a very important part of that defense for many reasons, definitely the leader of the defense,” Snead said of the 2021 third-round draft pick. “In the past, obviously we’ve been invested in some other positions. But I think as we evolve, and as teams evolve, there are times where you may be less invested at a certain position than you were in the past and one of your better players is an inside linebacker. So, he’s definitely someone we’ll discuss and definitely someone we’d like to have around.”

    3. Have the hard conversation about future at offensive skill positions 

    The Rams got great production from their three offensive skill spots in 2023 from a combination of veterans and young players (even if one, tight end, was more blocking-centric in a re-invented run scheme). Still, significant injuries at running back, receiver and tight end should give reason to deeply evaluate all of those positions, and continue to invest in them.

    At running back, second-team All Pro Kyren Williams missed four games to an ankle injury. Williams was a legitimate star for the Rams in 2023, should be again in 2024 and his presence on the field made a huge difference in their overall production:

    Rams offense: With and without Kyren Williams
    ACTIVE OFF THE FIELD/REST
    EPA/Play
    +0.159
    -0.153
    Success Rate
    47.8%
    38.4%

    Ronnie Rivers and Royce Freeman were capable backups to Williams but Rivers also missed time with an injury. The Rams have continuously supplemented this position via the middle to later rounds of the draft. Williams is deservedly their lead rusher, but because the position is not one they have financially invested in since 2018, continuing to draft and develop a year or two in advance may be important. This might mean picking up a young running back every offseason — that has certainly been their pattern over the last few years.

    Meanwhile, tight end is a question after veteran Tyler Higbee tore his ACL and MCL from a low hit by Detroit safety Kerby Joseph in the wild-card loss. Higbee will miss spring workouts and could potentially even miss a chunk of training camp. The only other healthy tight end with any game experience — who is not a free agent in 2024 — is Davis Allen, a rookie in 2023 who showed a lot of promise.

    Finally, after his Triple Crown season in 2021, Kupp has battled multi-week injuries in 2022 (ankle) and 2023 (hamstring, ankle). Rookie Puka Nacua emerged as the No. 1 receiver even when Kupp returned to the field after missing the first four games. Kupp and the Rams need a healthy 2024, and he still holds a crucial role for the offense on and off the field — but the Rams also have to keep filling out this room in light of his injury issues, Nacua’s physical style of play and No. 4 receiver Tutu Atwell entering a contract year.

    4. Continue draft momentum 

    This is obvious, sure — but if the Rams can bring in a second consecutive solid draft class in 2024, they’ll have even more financial flexibility over the next three to five years. A cheap, talented roster core compiled from strong drafts in succession means the freedom to take big swings at high-value positions, and even the potential to extend homegrown talent when the time comes. It also means critical depth even if the roster eventually gets top-heavy again!

    5. Patience in filling potential staff openings 

    Defensive coordinator Raheem Morris reportedly has second interviews this week with the Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, Washington Commanders and Seattle Seahawks for their head coaching positions. The Rams’ executives, many current and former players, McVay and even opposing coaches such as Kyle Shanahan have all made strong and public endorsements over the last several weeks for Morris to get one of those positions. McVay has noted that he would “hate” to lose Morris, one of his best friends as well as a colleague who often takes on a “co-head coach” role.

    Defensive line coach Eric Henderson accepted a position as the defensive line coach/co-defensive coordinator at USC shortly after the Rams’ season ended.

    Meanwhile, pass game coordinator/quarterbacks coach Zac Robinson will reportedly interview with the New England Patriots, Pittsburgh Steelers and Las Vegas Raiders for their open offensive coordinator jobs, while tight ends coach Nick Caley will also interview with the Patriots for the OC job.

    McVay took his time when filling his coaching staff last offseason, and said last week he hoped for continuity (though recognized some would have opportunities for advancement elsewhere). He’ll wait until he knows whether Morris is getting a head coaching job before filling the defensive line coach opening, though mentioned young assistant A.C. Carter as an in-house possibility. If Robinson gets a job, in-house candidates to replace him could include K.J. Black and/or Jake Peetz.

    The Rams’ staff played a crucial role in the sound development of their rookie class and even many of their second-year players. McVay remaining patient and casting a wide net if he has to replace anybody is important.

    One big question

    Do the Rams draft a quarterback this year?

    CALM DOWN, people. This is not a suggestion to replace Matthew Stafford in 2024, after a remarkable 2023 season and the expectation he’ll again have a clean bill of health heading into the offseason. The Rams seemed to study a successful blueprint — Seattle’s 2021 offseason — when embarking on their sprint-rebuild of 2023. It’s fair to wonder if they’ll study another (and very familiar) one in the Green Bay Packers, who identified quarterback Jordan Love as a late first-round pick in 2020, and sat him for a couple years behind a veteran star. Coaching, patience and quarterback skill level have all married together and Love is now the future at the position in Green Bay, and growing alongside a young team that won’t incur large cap space in the next couple of years.

    The Rams don’t have a clear backup quarterback, with Carson Wentz scheduled to be a free agent and uncertainty over whether Stetson Bennett will return from the non-football/illness list. Bennett was drafted in the fourth round last spring with solidifying the long-term backup spot in mind.

    The Rams are committed to Stafford in 2024, and he to them. As long as he’s feeling good, their offense is in great shape. If he’s this healthy for a consecutive season, it would even be logical to have the conversation about him playing into his very late 30s. But is this the year they start thinking about what happens after that?

    #148992
    zn
    Moderator

    I don’t know if this belongs here, either. Is this devoted to news, or is analysis welcome? If this belongs in a different thread, then by all means, move it.

    I think it goes here just fine. In fact, thanks.

    Fwiw though, and for future reference–the site doesn’t allow admins to move posts anymore.

    #148997
    Zooey
    Participant

    I don’t know if this belongs here, either. Is this devoted to news, or is analysis welcome? If this belongs in a different thread, then by all means, move it.

    I think it goes here just fine. In fact, thanks. Fwiw though, and for future reference–the site doesn’t allow admins to move posts anymore.

    I bet you could still copy a post, though, and post it somewhere else, and go back and delete the original.

    #148998
    zn
    Moderator

    I don’t know if this belongs here, either. Is this devoted to news, or is analysis welcome? If this belongs in a different thread, then by all means, move it.

    I think it goes here just fine. In fact, thanks. Fwiw though, and for future reference–the site doesn’t allow admins to move posts anymore.

    I bet you could still copy a post, though, and post it somewhere else, and go back and delete the original.

    I do do that sometimes. Though, more often if something is really in the wrong thread, I ask the poster to just re-post it in the right thread. But as a rule that doesn’t happen much, posters are usually on top of the “what goes in what thread” issue.

    #149010
    Zooey
    Participant

    Dunno how this will work because I think a team can have a max of 4 compensatory picks, and the Rams already have 4 this year.

     

     

    #149016
    zn
    Moderator

    Dunno how this will work because I think a team can have a max of 4 compensatory picks, and the Rams already have 4 this year.

    I think it’s accounted for completely separately from comp picks for free agent players.

    #149019
    InvaderRam
    Moderator

    four picks in the first three rounds is alright by me.

    #149036
    InvaderRam
    Moderator

    one thing i saw on turf show times which i completely forgot about is the fact that avila played a significant amount if time at center in college. another option at the rams’ disposal? still would need to find a left guard though.

    #149411
    zn
    Moderator

    from https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2024/2/15/24074449/rams-news-cbs-sports-major-leap-2024-season
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    Jeff Kerr of CBS Sports seems to think so as he pegged LA as one of five teams expected to take a major leap in 2024. Los Angeles was included alongside the Texans, Bengals, Packers and Colts.</p>
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    Kerr expects the Rams to compete for the NFC West crown next year despite playing in the same division as the 49ers, who are the reigning conference champs. Here is what the analyst had to say in his February 14 article:

    “Los Angeles nailed the 2023 draft with Puka Nacua, along with Kobie Turner and Byron Young on a revamped defensive line. General manager Les Snead has made the most of his draft picks over the last two seasons, and the Rams own six picks in the first five rounds this year (first-round pick for first time since 2016).

    There’s still some retooling in the secondary for the Rams and they need to see if Carson Wentz can be salvaged in case Stafford goes down. If Stafford stays healthy, the Rams have a shot at the NFC West title for the first time in three years.”</p>

    #149427
    zn
    Moderator

    He gets to the Rams in this.

    #149428
    zn
    Moderator
    Rank 3
    Class grade: A-

    EDHOLM: The Rams haven’t made a first-round pick since they took Jared Goff first overall in the 2016 NFL Draft, but general manager Les Snead scored a highly productive haul with his 2023 rookie class, which was studded with multiple first-year standouts.

    That group was led by Nacua, who authored one of the greatest rookie seasons ever by a wide receiver. Catching 105 passes for 1,486 yards and six TDs, along with 12 rushes for 89 yards, Nacua was a shocking source of offense, earning Matthew Stafford‘s trust immediately and providing stability while Cooper Kupp battled injuries. Nacua stayed healthy (which wasn’t always the case for him in college) and has all the earmarks of a star if he can continue doing so.

    Avila was a rock at left guard, playing every offensive snap this season. He committed only two penalties and steadily improved throughout the season, especially in pass protection. Allen was barely heard from early in the season, but he earned starter’s reps in two games and opened eyes in both. He even had a 22-yard catch in the playoff loss to the Lions and could be in line to take early-season snaps from Tyler Higbee in 2024 if Higbee has not yet recovered from a torn ACL.

    The Rams’ defense also received major rookie help. Turner and Young were two of the best defensive rookies in the league this season and helped breathe life into a Rams DL that had become far too Aaron Donald-dependent.

    Turner tied Donald’s franchise rookie sack record with nine (also leading all NFL rookies this season), playing in every game (starting four) and becoming a true force in the second half of the year as the Rams made their playoff push. He was named a finalist for Defensive Rookie of the Year. Young was nearly as good, notching eight sacks, 19 QB hits and two forced fumbles as a 16-game starter. He energized the unit with his hell-on-wheels play style, proving Sneed’s instinct right on using a Day 2 pick on a 25-year-old rookie. Johnson also provided help down the stretch and could be a rotational contributor next season.

    Making the jump from D-II Wingate, Evans proved to be a capable rookie punter — even with one attempt blocked and the Rams’ coverage units failing to help his net average — as well as a kickoff guy. The remainder of the Rams’ rookies mostly contributed on special teams, with mixed results. Bennett was placed on the reserve/non-football injury list for unspecified reasons in September, and in January, head coach Sean McVay said he doesn’t know if Bennett will be on the team in 2024.

    #149597
    zn
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    #149603
    zn
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    #149856
    zn
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    #149857
    zn
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    Every Matthew Stafford Touchdown From The 2023 Season

    #149858
    zn
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    #150058
    zn
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    One pressing question for Sean McVay and new Rams position/assistant coaches

    Jourdan Rodrigue

    https://theathletic.com/5351254/2024/03/20/rams-sean-mcvay-question-coaches/?source=emp_shared_article

    Big waves of change unfolded through the Rams’ first week of free agency.

    To recap:

    • The Rams signed two cornerstone offensive linemen, are moving another to center, signed a blocking tight end who could hold potential in the pass game, signed a familiar face at cornerback, a rising young safety, re-signed veteran receiver Demarcus Robinson, offered tenders to their starting left tackle and a depth defensive lineman/special teamer, extended a depth linebacker on a cheap, but guaranteed, deal and found their new backup quarterback.

    Here’s why they spent where they did (note: This was written before the agreement to terms of safety Kam Curl, quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo and inside linebacker Christian Rozeboom, so they did answer the backup quarterback question posed at the bottom of the story).

    • Aaron Donald retired.

    Before all of that, head coach Sean McVay did some shuffling of his staff, inclusive to new hires and promotions. With so much change, I thought I’d do something fun and pose one big question to McVay and each of the new/re-arranged coaches — with some additional analysis, of course — now that they themselves are re-calibrating after the first part of free agency.

    Sean McVay
    After out-performing expectations in 2023, at what point does this organization determine it is back in “contender” conversations and how hard will they then push?

    As we know, the answer to that specific question will predicate how the Rams use remaining resources, and at what time of year. McVay has new life in his run game behind a scheme change and personnel upgrades along the offensive line and at running back, and his veteran quarterback plays at an elite level when healthy. Glaring holes remain along the defensive line and even in the secondary, despite the Curl and Darious Williams additions, and the Rams need to plan for life after Cooper Kupp after injury issues popped up again in 2022 and 2023 (based on his recent social media posts, Kupp seems to be preparing for a healthy 2024).

    Because of the way the Rams “set the table” in free agency, these areas are where I’d predict they use remaining resources, whether via draft or packaged together for trade ahead of the deadline, if they believe they can make a real run.

    Chris Shula — defensive coordinator
    What are you planning for the defensive backfield?

    Shula will have his hands on the entire defense, of course. But the reason I find this specifically to be such a pressing question is because of the moves the Rams made in their secondary, and the backgrounds of both Shula and secondary coach Aubrey Pleasant. Shula helped McVay identify previous defensive coordinator Brandon Staley (who, like Pleasant, was a candidate for this year’s job). He bought in to the match-zone the Rams have foundationally deployed since 2020 (obviously there were noticeable variations in 2022-23, for specific reasons covered here). Williams, already a strong zone cornerback, did very well in that match-zone, quarters-heavy scheme. At just 25, Curl has a reputation for being very versatile at safety or nickel/dime linebacker which would be a benefit in rotating and disguising coverages and pressure. The addition of these two players, to me, tells us a little more about what Shula envisions as his “schematic fingerprints” on this overall system into 2024.

    Giff Smith — defensive line
    How will you generate a complete pass rush?

    Let’s be clear: There’s no replacing Donald. In some ways, the Rams will start from scratch here because of what they were able to do so effectively with Donald holding down one, two, sometimes even three defenders and multiple gaps snap in and snap out. They have two players who can be considered “foundation” pieces to this new puzzle, in second-year defensive tackle Kobie Turner and second-year outside linebacker Byron Young. Defensive tackle Bobby Brown III, who can play the nose if Turner shifts into more of a full-time, pass-rushing three-technique role, is under contract for another year as well. Michael Hoecht should step back into a rotational inside/outside role after starting full time at outside linebacker in 2023.

    The Rams didn’t get into the markets for higher tiers of pass rusher or defensive tackle in free agency, preferring (even while knowing Donald’s decision as the period began) to invest a combined $34 million per year instead in their two guards, Jonah Jackson and Kevin Dotson. Stafford’s cap number in 2024 is $49.5 million, and Cooper Kupp’s is $29.7 million. It is very easy to see which side of the ball the Rams have made a financial priority, and that means certain positions on the other side have to be cost-controlled.

    As I have reported, they had interest in possible lower-market players such as Alex Van Ginkel, but hoped to wait him out a little longer (his foot injury was a factor) and he was signed elsewhere. Trade potential also always seems to be on the table with this group, or acquiring cut players after the draft.

    Could the Rams actually go “young and cheap” along their entire defensive front? I wouldn’t rule that out, either — which would put the onus directly on Smith, second-year outside linebackers coach Joe Coniglio and second-year assistant defensive line coach A.C. Carter.

    Greg Williams — inside linebackers
    How will Ernest Jones’ leadership role expand post-Donald?

    I don’t believe it’s a coincidence that the Rams placed Jones’ locker next to Donald’s for the 2023 season. Jones will be asked to become even more of a vocal, veteran leader without Donald around. The Rams previously have not invested into their inside linebacker position but have opened preliminary discussions with Jones’ representation (those don’t usually progress until the late summer). On the field, Jones’ role could also expand further in consideration of Shula’s experience coaching his position. The Rams re-signed Rozeboom to a one-year deal but will need to keep locating depth here.

    John Streicher — game strategy and game management
    What edges and leverage points will you present to McVay and will he use them?

    At least McVay had the awareness to joke about adding the role, to help him “not use my timeouts in the second half until I need to.” The Rams have always gone over in-game situations and have an analytics department that provides coaches with data on rules, situations and scenarios (such as when the math would say to kick and when to go for it on fourth down, or when to go for a two-point conversion but also far beyond those popular examples). “Stretch” has a role that on paper looks like it will be more influential, inclusive to the fact that the Rams actually list him among their coaches.

    Stretch has a reputation around the league for finding edges within the NFL’s rulebook as well as advising on sound game management strategy and in personnel evaluation. McVay is one of the most progressive schematic minds in the game, which juxtaposes with a very traditional “feel and flow of the game” situational approach. I’m very, very interested to see how this goes.

    Dave Ragone, Nate Scheelhaase, Rob Calabrese — quarterbacks, offensive assistants (pass game/quarterbacks)
    “Jimmy G” and who else?

    This is an interesting group of coaches to have in the building where the quarterback position is concerned. The Rams’ one-year deal with Garoppolo was all about cost and scheme/system fit with a player they know very well, despite Garoppolo’s incoming two-game suspension.

    The bulk of the money the Rams spent in free agency went toward players who will protect and extend the career lifespan of Matthew Stafford. But if the rolling through of previous starters-turned-backups in Los Angeles in 2022 and 2023 (Baker Mayfield, Carson Wentz) proves to be a precedent, Garoppolo may get a lift from his stint and take another shot at a starting job elsewhere. So what happens after 2024?

    Nick Caley — tight ends, pass game coordinator
    What are the short- and long-term plans for Tyler Higbee?

    Caley is not a new hire, but was promoted by McVay this spring after he was wooed by New England for its offensive coordinator job.

    Higbee, who tore his ACL and MCL after a low hit by Detroit Lions defensive back Kerby Joseph in the wild-card loss, will be recovering into the summer and potentially fall. The Rams just signed 25-year-old Colby Parkinson to a three-year deal, presumably to take over as TE1 while Higbee heals. The contract extension Higbee signed last summer would be tricky to get out of in 2024 but could be movable in 2025. Parkinson could be both the short- and long-term future for the Rams at the position, but a lot of football has to happen in between.

    Chili Davis — special teams assistant
    Any kicker identification tips to bring to L.A.?

    In all seriousness, Davis was hired by retained special teams coordinator Chase Blackburn to help turn around a unit that ranked dead last in DVOA in 2023. The Rams need to identify a kicker, sure, but they also need to develop their coverage units. I would expect Rozeboom (one-year deal) and Hoecht (right of first refusal tender) to help here as well as Ronnie Rivers (exclusive rights free-agent tender).

    By association, McVay and “Stretch” can also help out the special teams unit with some of their down-and-distance and late-down decision-making.

    McVay also hired Sean Desai (Bears, Eagles) and Jerry Schuplinski (Raiders, Giants, Dolphins, Patriots) as senior assistants.

    My understanding of the roles are that they are offensive-oriented, even though Desai most recently has a defensive coordinator background. Now-Falcons defensive coordinator Jimmy Lake held that role in 2023, though also had the title of “assistant head coach.” One thing McVay and others from this coaching tree have done over the years is worked to understand opposing defensive systems’ “rules” in order to better tendency-break and scheme against them.

    Finally, the Rams are hopeful that renowned offensive line coach Mike Munchak returns to consult with their staff for a second season. These roles are usually determined closer to OTAs and training camp.

    #150290
    zn
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    #150291
    zn
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    #150292
    wv
    Participant

    Well…Aaron Donald is not going to be on the line.

    I cant get past that.   I dunno what to do with that.

    How did the Giants do when LT retired?   The Packers when Reggie retired?

     

    wv-brain just cant evaluate this defense anymore.    I guess, I’m gonna have to just wait and see what the D looks like after three or four games.

    The offense is all about Health  (Stafford, mainly) at this point.   If they stay healthy, they can score on anyone, I would think.

     

    49ers, Lions, Packers, Vikings, Bears, Cowboys, Falcons all look to be good.  Maybe the Eagles.  Maybe Washington.  Maybe Seattle and the Cards.    I think the NFC will be pretty good this season.

    Rams could be a 2 seed or they could miss the playoffs.   I just think they are a mystery due to the Aaron Donald hole.     Another big coaching challenge for McV.   Another big draft challenge for Snead.

     

     

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    #150293
    zn
    Moderator

    ell…Aaron Donald is not going to be on the line. I cant get past that.   I dunno what to do with that.

    Rams have had top defenses before. They did it the old-fashioned way–without a single dominant star, but with several good to excellent players. In fact look at their top picks–Rams have been neglecting the front 7 in the draft for years. From 2017 to 2022 they had 15 combined 2nd and 3rd round picks and out of those they selected 2 front 7 players–Jones and Lewis (and Lewis was a gamble). In 2023 they made it 4 out of 18.

    They need front 7 players. They won’t find a Donald, Taylor, or White but not every good defense has that.

    Baltimore had the 1st ranked D last year in terms of  points. (6th in yards). They don’t have a Donald, White, or Taylor. Just good players in a good and well-coached scheme.

    Though the Rams defense has been neglected in the draft for so long (or the front 7 has anyway) that I would expect to signs of good play in 2024, but not a fully arrived real D yet. But they can take very positive steps in that direction.

    With this offense, as you said, that might be enough for now.

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