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ZooeyModeratorThis Just In: #Packers front office is the main reason why they failed to land Odell Beckham, Jr., per sources. I’m told HC Matt LaFleur wanted OBJ, believing his acquisition would be both seamless/positive for GB offense. FO lowballed Beckham, while the #Rams believed in him.
So… the Rams offered a $500K signing bonus, and the Packers didn’t?
ZooeyModeratorThis, however, is the worst uniform ever to step on an NFL field.
ZooeyModeratorI still like the dark Ferragamos.
I prefer the blue and white, but the 80s blue and yellows are very good.
I dislike the current pale blues more than the blue and gold in St. Louis. The current uniforms are the worst.
Though the color rush banana uniforms were pretty terrible.
ZooeyModeratorI’m putting the Rams on notice. I cannot be held responsible for my actions if they lose this week. I will not suffer another loss to the 9ers. I just won’t.
I am with you there. If the Rams are serious…they have to take everything out on the 49ers. The loss to the Titans, and the “howmanyever” consecutive losses in a row to the 49ers.
A complete game, both sides of the ball, with the 9ers’ season effectively dead at the final gun. This is my expectation. This is my demand. It doesn’t have to be 52-0, although it can be, if they want. I want the 49ers outplayed from the opening drive to the final whistle. That is all.
And OBJ can watch from the sideline.
ZooeyModeratorWell, as long as there is no negative impact on the locker room, I’m fine with it. I don’t care if he doesn’t contribute anything. I just don’t want him doing damage. Of course, they could cut him, I guess.
If he’s any good…he does create more pressure on the secondary. And is an insurance policy against injury to any of the top trio.
And I will say that the Rams having him means the Packers and Saints don’t have him. And that’s good because I think he would be a bigger difference-maker to those teams than he will be to the Rams. With those teams – again, if he’s any good – he would add more value because they have a bigger need for a very good WR. So if paying him the vet minimum achieves nothing but removing a target for a potential playoff opponent, well…that’s fine by me.
Maybe somebody knows…I thought I read somewhere that there is a maximum number of compensatory picks a team can receive, and the Rams are already at that ceiling. If true, they don’t get another pick for OBJ.
ZooeyModeratorI am surprised, mystified, and wary.
ZooeyModeratorThe San Francisco 49ers are not who people thought they would be. And probing questions are being asked of the head coach. For good reason.
The Kyle Shanahan regime is not halfway through its fifth season, and, alas, things are not going well. It’s, frankly, looking far too much like Year 1, or Year 2, only he’s not the youngest head coach in the NFL anymore and the feeling-out process is long in the past. The adjustment phase ended years ago. And, to this point, that wistful season of 2019 — with the 13-3 record and the Super Bowl loss — feels like an awful long time ago.
The defense has been horrible, and trending decidedly in the wrong direction since Shanahan (make no mistake — he has been and always will be running the show there until/unless he’s fired) decided not to make stud interior defensive lineman DeForest Buckner a $20M/year man. The run game is a shell of what it used to be. The pop-gun offense isn’t scaring anyone. All of their elaborate smokescreens and spy-novel levels of offseason intrigue about which quarterback they were mortgaging their future to move up and draft seems a little too cute, especially since Trey Lance has barely played for the sputtering outfit. And what seems to be resonating most loudly in the Bay Area right now is Shanahan’s 32-44 career record (.444) and the fact he is 9-15 since the 49ers blew their lead to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.
Ultimately, you are what your record says you are. And that ain’t good. And no amount of play-calling wizardry can change that overnight. This ain’t a post-Super Bowl hangover. This isn’t a blip. That’s a nearly 25-game sample size since the big collapse against KC, and, well, the 24 games preceding that glorious 2019 season weren’t special, either (10-14).
The reality here is that roughly a third of Shanahan’s wins (10) came in September-November of 2019, and we can point to quarterback play and injuries and whatever other mitigating factors you want to include, but keep in mind all of those players (and bad quarterbacks) were there in the first place because Shanahan wanted them there. Again, this is his show. GM John Lynch was a curious choice at the time — coming straight out of the broadcast booth — and he was there at Shanahan’s behest. No revisionist history here.
Sunday’s loss to the Cardinals (backup quarterback included) was not professional grade, and they have allowed 83 points in three games since their bye and don’t have much to rely on on offensive, either. Sunday’s effort looked like a team in distress, turning what could have been a reboot to their season into the greatest SOS to date. It was inexcusable. They continually put on dire displays at home. And the second-half schedule doesn’t appear to be especially kind on paper, either.
Owner Jed York already doubled down on this management team by extending their already lengthy deals by another six years in 2020. His offense has never finished above 18th in points during his time there save for the magical 2019 ride (second), they’ve been a middling team running the ball the last two years, and one would think Shanahan would turn his focus decidedly to developing Lance ASAP.
It’s pretty clear if they have any chance of salvaging this season, Shanahan is going to have conjure his offense to much higher heights. If he is, indeed, a wizard with the play sheet and quarterbacks, well, now would be the ideal time to show it. Because time is running out on another 49ers season, they are clearly the most disappointing team in the NFL (Miami was always fools gold), and this wreaks of the kind of six-win campaigns that have come all too frequently in San Francisco.
ZooeyModeratorHe will be the Lions #1 WR by the end of the year.
ZooeyModeratorIf the Rams lose this game, there will be trouble.
I don’t see it. While the Rams are a flawed team, they have been consistently better all year than the 9ers, who seem to have more serious flaws than anyone expected. I don’t think the Shanahan spell lasts another game. I’m pretty sure the Rams are paying attention to this game, and I expect to see their most complete game of the season.
That’s all a hunch, obviously. But I think the Rams are better, and I think they are motivated. If they lose, I’m going to ask questions about the coaching. Is my guess.
November 10, 2021 at 5:31 pm in reply to: Just a thread for different kindsa interesting things #133835ZooeyModeratorThis doesn’t really belong anywhere, or deserve a thread of its own, but I have noticed that for the past couple of months, Twitter has frequently been suggesting Amy Klobuchar to me. I have never interacted with any of her tweets, but I see them daily.
Is she the 2024 DNC preference? Anybody else getting old Amy pushed onto them?
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ZooeyModeratorExcuse me. Freight rail is all privately owned. The government got out of it when they sold Conrail. Do you mean to tell us you’re going to give money to BNSF, Union Pacific, and Norfolk Southern to modernize their own tracks? https://t.co/WOmnDMU0nF
— Jack'sHouseOfPancakes (@RegimeChangeInc) November 7, 2021
ZooeyModeratorHoly smokes, it’s a weekend of upsets.
Denver over Dallas
Jaguars over the Bills
Browns over Bengals
Giants over the Raiders
Falcons over the SaintsZooeyModeratorI have the Dallas Denver game on in the distance, and the Broncos are dominating them. I did not see that coming, but it pleases me.
ZooeyModeratorThat one is on TV where I live, of course.
I would flip over to the GB KC game from time-to-time, if that was easy to do.
ZooeyModeratorLOL
ZooeyModeratorLooked good to go to me in those drills.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he is not 100%, but he could go.
I bet it has more to do with the advantage of unveiling him for the first time against the 49ers next week.
ZooeyModeratorThat pass to Bruce to start the 99 playoff game against MN is a Top 10 highlight of my Rams fan life. It might be #1.
ZooeyModeratorThat French recipe looks terribly boring to me, but the English recipe looks interesting.
^^^ I would like credit for typing that sentence because I’m pretty sure I’m the first person in world history to ever express that sentence.
I came across one of Sohla’s videos before. I don’t remember what it was for. Bread, maybe. In any event, Sohla will be one of my early draft picks in the post-apocalypse fantasy league because she can cook with nothing.
Also…I’m sure you’ve told us before, but I forgot. Why did you choose the handle Agamemnon?
ZooeyModeratorI think that is likely to happen with OBJ. His value now is lower than it will be at the end of the season, I think.
I also think there is good reason for that. We’re halfway through the season, and he would have to learn a new system, and an OC will have to adjust what they’re doing. I don’t think that makes sense for the Rams. They would have to divert resources and energy and chemistry to develop OBJ just to trade him. I don’t think that’s a distraction worth taking on when the goal is the Super Bowl. That might make sense for a team with lower season ambitions, but I think there is a greater chance of that blowing up the Rams than making them better. Just my opinion.
I think it makes the most sense for a team that believes they are on the rise, and believe OBJ is a piece that they can build with into the future. Like the Raiders. Or 9ers.
In any event, I don’t think he will clear waivers. I think he will get claimed for LA has a stab at him anyway, but I just can’t see the Rams making that move.
ZooeyModeratorThat doesn’t make sense, Billy. He’s free right now. Why would any team pass by a free OBJ and then turn around and give picks to the Rams for him?
ZooeyModeratorThis is a pretty good piece from CBS.
Looks like there is a good chance he will be in the NFC West. But I’d be very surprised if he makes it as far as the Rams. If he does, that may mean that nobody wants him. I think the Raiders make a LOT of sense. The Rams, otoh, make NO sense, imo.
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After less than three seasons with the Browns, Odell Beckham Jr.’s time in Cleveland is officially over. The Browns announced on Friday that Beckham will be released, which means he’s soon going to be playing for another team.Unfortunately for Beckham, though, he probably isn’t going to get to pick his next team and that’s because he has to clear waivers before he can become a free agent and it seems unlikely that a player of his caliber will end up clearing waivers.
If you’re not familiar with how the waiver process works, it’s pretty simple: Each team will have a chance to make a claim for Beckham and any team interested in adding him will have to make their claim by Monday.
The waiver order is basically like the draft: The worst team picks first and you go from there. Right now, the Lions, Texans and Dolphins currently have the top three spots in waiver order, which means they’ll have the first crack at Beckham (If the Lions and Dolphins were to both put in a claim for Beckham, the Lions would get him since they have the higher waiver priority).
Although those three teams are at the top, it’s hard to imagine any bad team wanting to add Beckham so if he gets claimed, it will probably be by a playoff contender.
With that in mind, we’re going to rank the top 10 landing spots for Beckham based on where each team falls in the waiver order. In this ranking, the Seahawks are at the top because they have the highest waiver priority (If you want to see the full waiver order, be sure to click here).
Seahawks (waiver order: Ninth): Over the past few years, the Seahawks have desperately been looking to add another receiver. Not only did the Seahawks once sign Josh Gordon, but Russell Wilson once made it clear that he also wanted them to sign Antonio Brown, so you can bet he would be thrilled to get Beckham on his team. Also, it should be noted that Wilson’s close friend Daniel Mogg, who is the co-host of Wilson’s podcast, posted an old picture this week of Wilson hanging out with Beckham.
I’m guessing the timing of this picture isn’t a coincidence. At 3-5, the Seahawks could definitely stand to make a splashy move and adding Beckham would definitely qualify. Also, with Wilson expected to be returning in Week 10, it would be a nice welcome-back present for him.
49ers (waiver order: 12th): The 49ers actually thought about trading for Odell back in 2019, but they weren’t willing to give up the draft compensation it was going to take to get him from the Giants. Two years later, Odell might not be quite the same player, but the 49ers might be able to overlook that considering that they’ll be getting him for free because they won’t have to trade for him. Adding Odell to the 49ers’ offense with Deebo Samuel would probably open things up for the run game, which is something Kyle Shanahan would probably like.
Colts (waiver order: 14th): Beckham might not be a good match for an emotional quarterback like Carson Wentz, but the Colts could definitely stand to add a receiving weapon right now. Michael Pittman currently leads the team with 658 receiving yards, but after that, no other player on the team even has 325 yards. If the Colts were to claim Beckham, that would give their air attack a much-needed boost.
Patriots (waiver order: 15th): If Bill Belichick has proven one thing in his coaching career, it’s that he’ll add any player if he thinks that player can help the team. Getting talented players on the cheap is Belichick’s specialty and that’s what he would be doing here with Beckham. Yes, the Patriots have plenty of receivers right now, but they don’t have a clear-cut No. 1 guy and that’s what Beckham would likely become.
Chiefs (waiver order: 18th): The high-powered Chiefs offense hasn’t looked so high-powered this year. Patrick Mahomes has two big targets in Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce, but after that, things get kind of dicey. Adding Beckham to this offense might be exactly what Kansas City needs to turn things around this year. The Chiefs have been searching far and wide for a No. 2 receiver behind Hill and that search would presumably end with the addition of Beckham.
Saints (waiver order: 23rd): If Beckham falls down this far on the waiver wire, it’s hard to imagine him dropping any farther. For one, the Saints actually tried to make a deal for him before Tuesday’s trade deadline, so we definitely know that they’re interested. Also, with Michael Thomas now out for the season, the Saints could use a big-play threat like Beckham.
Raiders (waiver order: 26th): The Raiders have had to deal with a lot of drama over the past few weeks, so they might not want to add someone with Beckham’s personality to the locker room, but he would certainly add a boost to a team that lost its biggest deep threat this week when Henry Ruggs III was released after being charged with DUI resulting in a death.
Packers (waiver order: 28th): When it comes to Green Bay’s offense, it seems like the only thing anyone has been talking about recently is the fact that Aaron Rodgers hasn’t had a true No. 2 receiver over the past few years. Adding Beckham would certainly fix that problem. The Packers aren’t exactly known for making splashy moves, but they’ve proven that they’ll listen to Rodgers — they traded for Randall Cobb — and if Rodgers asks them to claim Beckham, it will be interesting to see that they do.
Ravens (waiver order: 29th): Fans in Baltimore are clamoring for the Ravens to add Odell and it appears Lamar Jackson is also on board. The Ravens quarterback told the team’s fans to let the organization know how much they want Odell.
The Ravens have a pretty good set of receivers with Marquise Brown, Rashod Batemand and Sammy Watkins, but two of those three guys have had trouble staying healthy. Not only would Beckham add some serious depth, but he would give the Ravens a strong one-two punch at the position.
Rams (waiver order: 30th): The only way the Rams are getting a crack at Beckham is if 29 other teams pass on him, which probably isn’t going to happen. However, if that does happen, don’t be surprised if they grab him. The Rams have already made it clear that they’re all-in on 2021 and this is a team that has proven that it will pay any price to get a talented player, so you have to think they’ll happily grab Beckham knowing they don’t have to give up any draft picks to do it.
If a team does claim Beckham, they’ll also have to claim his current contract, which currently has $7.25 million remaining, according to a report from ESPN’s Adam Schefter. Schefter added the Browns worked out an agreement that will void Beckham’s final two seasons and make him a free agent in 2022.
ZooeyModeratorWait… we have to turn the clocks back tonight which means we have to wait an extra hour for kickoff.
I hate time changes.
ZooeyModeratorBut those clips (and I didn’t watch them all the way through) look to me like people who just don’t like Rogers personally, and are piling on.
I’ll bet if they liked Rogers personally, their opinions about this would be shaped differently.
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Fwiw, in the 2nd clip, at the 6 minute mark, I think the dude
has an interesting take on it.w
vThat was the part I was referring to in the beginning of my post. That’s all “lawyer speak.” He knew what the question was, and he evaded the answer on a language technicality, and gave an answer that he knew would be interpreted as “Yes, I am vaccinated.”
He can maybe get away with that in a court of law, but not in my personal estimation. He deliberately misled his audience to a false conclusion.
ZooeyModeratorNahh. There’s no splitting hairs here on the subjectivity of Truth.
He was asked if he was vaccinated, and he knew perfectly well what that question meant. He answered, “Yes, I’m immunized,” and he knew perfectly well how that answer would be interpreted. It was a deliberate lie for the public.
But I don’t care.
The NFL office, and the GB Packers knew that was untrue also, and they let it go, so they are accomplices. And I still don’t care.
This matters to me ONLY if Rogers lied to his teammates and people he encounters, and jeopardized their health.
As far as I’m concerned, Rogers took a gamble, and lost. That’s its own karma.
I already knew he is a dick. I mean…his own mother and brother hate him. This doesn’t change anything in my estimation of the man on a personal level. I already had a low opinion of him, and this is par for the course, more or less.
But those clips (and I didn’t watch them all the way through) look to me like people who just don’t like Rogers personally, and are piling on.
I’ll bet if they liked Rogers personally, their opinions about this would be shaped differently.
November 4, 2021 at 3:50 pm in reply to: Stafford thread (starting 10/21, going into week 7) #133649ZooeyModeratorIf Stafford’s so good, how come he throws incompletions? Huh?
ZooeyModeratorThat is great.
The DB has outside leverage on a short route, and Kupp fakes outside, then inside, then cuts outside. The DB is in the right place, bites on the fake inside, has his eyes on Stafford…sees Stafford let it go, and it’s just too late. This DB did everything right on this play, and Kupp kicked him out of the car a mile outside of town, and made him walk home. Kupp has more than 5 yards of separation on a 5-yard pass.
I’m starting to think Cooper Kupp is good enough to be an everyday starter in this league.
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ZooeyModerator2 entirely different schemes?
November 3, 2021 at 8:27 pm in reply to: Who will replace Tutu Atwell as the LA Rams return man? #133629ZooeyModeratorMaybe Von Miller can return kicks.
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