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August 1, 2015 at 8:36 pm in reply to: jimi walks to camp part 2 this time with narration…+ jimi's 8/1 camp tweets #27904
znModeratorHey Ag, do you know how to load the vid from Jimi’s page? It’s at (as of right now) 8 minutes ago. It’s the OL in the hill drill.
August 1, 2015 at 7:13 pm in reply to: jimi walks to camp part 2 this time with narration…+ jimi's 8/1 camp tweets #27898
znModeratorRamBill
Messages are in reverse order–Read from the bottom up of each reporters tweets
Jim Fadler @jimiramsboy
Rookie 7 on 7 is going to close it out. Veterans stretching and wrapping it up. Still liking Mannion #ramscamp
Battle yet to take a rep in the match up drills #ramscamp
Adding more insult Bond goes up vs Donald the next…pushed back and then run around #ramscamp
Kenny Britt doing the SJ39 act of running all the way on a short catch. Travis Bond gets pushed all the way back by Brockers #ramscamp
I made a lot of fun of the signing of Garrett Reynolds but he has looked decent in pass pro, Brandon Washington not so much #ramscamp
Quinn tries the inside spin move again vs GRob and GRob cuts him off Harkey more than holds his own vs Westbrook #ramscamp
Brockers killed Jones the first rep, got shoved back into the QB the second time #ramscamp
Harkey is getting a lot of time vs a Dend in this drill. Havenstein does better vs Hayes. Brown vs Fairley Brown wins #ramscamp
Line match up drill time…I think a lot of hopefuls progress will be seen today #ramscamp
Pead taking reps with Keenum and he falls down untouched #ramscamp
Christian Bryant is back from injury and just picked off an errant pass from Foles #ramscamp
Foles has a nice hard cadence just got the smack talking Hayes to jump #ramscamp
Britt runs with a flushed Foles for a really nice sliding catch…Hayes talking a lot of smack to offense #ramscamp
Coach Greg animated with his charges but I can’t hear him dagnabit #ramscamp
Smelley…name change please…definitely has pass catching and route skills but at 235 in a run offense maybe too light #ramscamp
A new number 8 Tyler Slavin Rookie WR from New Mexico Highlands # ramscamp
Barron on the sideline with a towel on his head…does not appear to shoulder pads on #ramscamp
What it appears to me is that Alexander has not passed TJ but has lapped Barron in the depth chart #ramscamp
TJ back out with the 1’s now. Ogletree great pass coverage on tight end three plays in a row -#ramscamp
Barrett Jones now getting the bulk of the reps at center with the 1’s. I think Barnes only got a few #ramscamp
Greg the Leg and Palardy take it easy on the tower guy today #ramscamp
Red zone drills 1’s vs 1’s Ogletree breaks up a fade. It’s still Alexander with McLeod #ramscamp
Emory Blake sighting I think he has used up his practice squad time #ramscamp
Brad Smelley a first year tight end out of Alabama has some moments in 11 on 11 too light to play in line # ramscamp
There is no earthly way Case Kennun is 6:01 he is closer to Greg the Leg # ramscamp
znModeratorthehammer
camp report 7/31
2 biggest things that caught my eye is the team looks thinner in better shape in general and thought Robinson looked MUCH worse at his smaller weight…really bothered me
looked like he didn’t get quicker feet player 25lbs lighter but lot of strength..smaller butt/thighs and upper body strength..good news is maybe it will take him some time to adjust to his new body
Brown also struggled at rg at times..tripped over the center once while pulling and looked uncomfortable at his new position…still has the perfect build for guard…also thought Reynolds looked ready to start day one if needed
Havenstein is money in the bank…just carries himself as a 10 year starter..did a great job when I watched him blocking at the 2nd level..just plays within himself
barely watched the centers but Barnes looks to be the early favorite to win the starting job
Battle looks very good at lt and thought Darrell Williams was worthless.Rhaney looked slightly bigger and Donnal looked like just a guy
both coacho and myself were disappointed with Foles athleticism and speed in going though his progessions….not awful but was hoping for more
watching Mannion I felt like John Sutter finding gold At Sutters Mill..much leaner/quicker then Foles, always surrounded by coaches, getting solid reps as the #2…lot to like..Davis still has a weak arm and is clearly the #4 qb and Keenum looks like a smaller Kellen Clemons ..
thought Gurley had the quick feet/burst of a young Marshall Faulk going forward..seemed to lose some speed going laterally…a WOW! Athlete
also thought Mason and Pead looked good while Cunnningham looked slightly bigger/slower
Quick is also a WOW! Player..carries himself with so much confidence now…Bailey is the #3 wr with Austin #4…did some quick hitting passes with him…IMO best hope for him is he becomes the 1999 Az-Zahir Hakim ..liked Slavin a little
on D Barron was hurt… love the pass rush hate the back 7 still…very little need for a nickle cb today as offense stayed in 2 te/pro set most of practice so Joyner got reps outside…best bet for fams IMO is Tru Johnson wins one outiside spot with Gaines inside…Coacho has a thing for fs Bryant and he flashed..dude is a good athlete
Alexander/Ayers struggled in coverage…teams will keep hitting the Rams with short passes till they get tighter coverage from their top 7…Marcus Robeson flashed today..Donald was Donald, Trinca-Pasat proved to quick for Washington to block…Claiborne looked slow at cb….
good but hardly a great beginning and Greg Robinson’s play today bothers me
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znModeratorRams alter, add to coaching staff
Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/19901/st-louis-rams-alter-and-add-to-coaching-staff
EARTH CITY, Mo. — After an offseason that saw the first major shift to the coaching staff on the offensive side of the ball with the departure of coordinator Brian Schottenheimer, St. Louis Rams coach Jeff Fisher made a few other alterations to his ever-growing staff as well.
Most notably, Chuck Cecil has moved from secondary coach to senior defensive assistant. Cecil spent the previous three seasons as the team’s secondary coach but will take on a more expansive role with the defense with his new title.
In accordance with that, Dennard Wilson has been promoted from defensive quality control coach to defensive backs. He joins Brandon Fisher in that shared responsibility. In Friday’s first training camp practice, Wilson spent most of the individual drills working with cornerbacks while Fisher tutored the safeties. That’s presumably how the duties will be divided moving forward.
Jeff Imamura was hired earlier as a replacement for Wilson with the title of defensive quality control coach.
Those aren’t the only coaching staff moves the Rams made in the offseason. In replacing Schottenheimer, coach Jeff Fisher promoted Frank Cignetti Jr. from quarterbacks coach to offensive coordinator with Chris Weinke coming on in Cignetti’s former role. Rob Boras was promoted to assistant head coach/offense and Jeff Garcia joined as an offensive assistant who is working mostly with wide receivers.
But there was also one more move made, as Fisher brought on Barrett Trotter as an offensive assistant. Trotter had spent the past two seasons working in football operations and as a scouting assistant. The former Auburn quarterback will help Weinke with the signal-callers.
August 1, 2015 at 5:21 pm in reply to: A public list of Tweets from Rams Park & Lindenwood (running thread) #27886
znModeratorJim Fadler @jimiramsboy 16m16 minutes ago
Running backs

znModeratorDidn’t he fire Cecil once before? Maybe this is a kinder more gentle Fisher.
Yes, but, the previous time, Cecil was the coordinator. Plus he gave an official the finger during a live broadcast. Plus he wasn’t afraid to fire Walton and Blake Wms. in the last coupla years.
From the wiki:
On October 3, 2010, during a game against the Denver Broncos, Cecil gave NFL officials the middle-finger gesture in an attempt to protest a neutral zone infraction call against one of his players. Live close-up video of Cecil was being aired at the time, and the gesture was broadcast without editing.
Is the secondary well coached? Well, there’s McDonald and Gaines. So who knows, so far.
This could be a genuine promotion of some kind, or, maybe Fisher is getting Cecil out of Gregg’s way. Or both.
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znModeratorWhat are some of the biggest storylines heading into training camp? Nick Wagoner tells the Fast Lane
znModeratorRhaney seems to have the physical talent, but I wonder if he can read and call. It just seems to me that a rookie OC who isn’t remarkably smart would struggle to read NFL defenses. At any event, that’s what I want to hear about Rhaney–can he captain the OL?
Good point. That’s important of course, but I assume that we won’t hear much about it unless players or coaches start talking about what happens when they discuss practice film in meetings. I will assume, though, that if they like him, that he has the head for the job.
I also don’t rule out a green center starting…last year, a few different teams started rookie centers who did well, include Green Bay.
I do think that Jones has a leg up on him, but still, Rhaney sounds intriguing.
Here’s some comments about him from the local reporters…from several different chats and articles:
THOMAS:
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It could be Rhaney, who’s athletic and quick off the ball, but needs to add strength. But don’t think he’s quite ready to take over at this point.
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Athletic. Quick feet. Needs to get bigger and stronger. Working against him this year is the fact he’d be working with a QB (Foles) who’s new to the Rams.
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WAGONER:
Rhaney is more of an unknown, but is also the most athletic of the three and might be the best fit in a more zone-oriented blocking scheme.
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Rhaney has earned positive reviews for his athleticism and toughness.
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Rhaney should not be discounted in this. While the Rams have a habit of talking up all of their players, the discussion of Rhaney’s potential seems to be much more than just lip service. Don’t be surprised if this comes down to Jones and Rhaney with Jones narrowly winning the job.
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…though he doesn’t have the experience or time in the system of Barnes and Jones, he does bring a few intriguing elements that have him firmly in the mix for the job. Rhaney said he’s fully healthy and added five pounds of muscle in the offseason. The team now lists him at 6-foot-2, 301 pounds.
Rhaney is also considered the most athletic of the three contenders and could prove the best fit in a tweaked offensive scheme that calls for more zone blocking concepts.
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Rhaney represents the wild card in the mix. Although he’s even more unproven than Barnes and Jones, the second-year center has his share of supporters in the organization. After a knee injury cost the 2014 seventh-round draft choice his rookie season, Rhaney said he’s added about five pounds of muscle in the offseason.
It should help Rhaney’s cause that the Rams offense has a few tweaks coming that seem to play into his skill set. Rhaney said he played in a zone-heavy scheme at Tennessee State and that new Rams offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti is adding wrinkles to the scheme that fit his style of play.
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LYONS:
The Rams have been impressed with Rhaney’s quick feet and low center of gravity.
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znModeratorPlus don’t miss these, also from the 7/31 practice
http://theramshuddle.com/topic/ramview-73115-training-camp-report-long/
znModeratorRev
Snapshots From Camp – Jul 31 2015To see the pics, go here —>
http://www.realramsfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=86789Football is back!
Day one of camp proved to be a scorcher. The humidity wasn’t terrible, thankfully. Still you could see the guys were a little conscious of possible cramping. The crowd turnout was pretty good, though noticeable was the lack of anyone under the season ticket holder tent..
– Tavon Austin is wearing #1 in camp this year.

Gregg Williams. Allegedly.
– Am I the only one that thinks that DC Gregg Williams is in the witness relocation program or something? His hairstyle and beard/patch/fu manchu/biker goatee change so often that I start to wonder if they’re all just disguises and if one day I’ll look at him and see Jaqen H’ghar standing there wishing my valor some morghulis.
– Not a lot happening early on in running scrimmage. Some late breaks on the draw game with Tre Mason flying off left guard for a long gainer.
– Seemed like a lot of attention being paid to WR’s blocking on the edges.
– Foles predictably had some trouble with hitches and timing routes. Pretty much something I’d expect on a day one with a group of receivers he’s only worked with in OTAs
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znModeratorIMO … this is a good one.
Quick didn’t used to be a good interview. He’s getting there.
August 1, 2015 at 10:13 am in reply to: piling up the "training camp preview" articles, starting with Prisco #27851
znModeratorfrom Scout Picks Packers-Patriots Super Bowl, Breaks Down Every Team
By Mike Freeman
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/…rs-patriots-super-bowl-breaks-down-every-team
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Arizona Cardinals: “With Carson Palmer back, they have a really good shot at unseating the Seahawks in the division. They’re the only team that can do it because of their quarterback play. They also have the defense to slow down that running game. But I think [there’s a] good chance they win the division this year.”
San Francisco 49ers: “I know Jim [Harbaugh] could be a pain in the ass. He’s an odd guy. Really bright guy also. One of the smartest in all of football. The 49ers won’t be [the] same without him. That whole situation could implode pretty quickly.”
Seattle Seahawks: “I’m not convinced the addition of Jimmy Graham will transform that offense the way so many people seem to believe. The Saints always threw the football. The Seahawks won’t do that. They’ll still give it to Marshawn [Lynch]. They’ll use Graham to loosen up things for Marshawn, not the other way around. I also think we’re going to see just how good a coach Pete Carroll really is. He has [the] toughest job in the sport next year. Getting the team to recover from that Super Bowl loss will not be easy. I don’t care how talented they are.”
St. Louis Rams: “I think Nick Fairley will be good, if not really good. I know him. He has pride and doesn’t want to be known as a bust. That’s also a very professional locker room he’s going to. I don’t think the one in Detroit had as many true pros when Nick played there. Big problem for the Rams is that offense. It will be one of the bottom five in football.”
August 1, 2015 at 9:54 am in reply to: reporters on camp, 7/31 (Wagoner, Simmons, etc.) + vids from camp #27849
znModeratorvid link, includes highlights
KTVI – Nick Foles took part in his first day of training camp with the Rams.
http://fox2now.com/2015/07/31/foles-rams-discuss-contract-extension/
=================One-On-One with Isaiah Battle
Watch reporter Dani Klupenger chat with rookie tackle Isaiah Battle about his first NFL Training Camp and his newborn baby
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#RamsCamp Wired: Stedman Bailey
Check out wide receiver Stedman Bailey mic’d up the first day of Training Camp.
znModeratorThis was the least tricky practice I’ve ever seen, though THANKFULLY, no inside handoffs to 170-pound RBs. Lots of play action, pretty even run distribution (end vs. middle), lots and lots of short passes. Based on today, the plan again this year is for a lot of 16-play scoring drives.
IMO. We are getting all sorts of hints that this is exactly what we will see a lot. Ball control passing/lots of running/ setting up some shots.
Foles is actually a good rhythm/short game passer. Last year Foles, as everyone knows, was not as stellar overall as he was in 2013, but where he did do well was throwing the ball in under 2.6 seconds. He had a 73.5% completion percentage when he threw quickly, which was 6th out of 39 qbs, and a qb rating of 103.5, which was 11th.
Everyone talks about Foles being able to get out of trouble and look downfield, but actually, he is generally a worse qb overall when he does that. When he has the ball for more than 2.6 seconds, his completion percentage in 2014 was 46.4%, which was 38th out of 39. His qb rating fell to 59.4, which was 37th out of 39. Only Blake Bortles and Josh McCown were
worse.He was also sacked at a much higher rate on passes that took more time. On quicker passes, his sack percentage was 0.6%. On the passes with more time, it goes to 4.2%. 4.2% isn’t bad at all but it’s 7 times as bad as 0.6%.
So, to me, with a young line, a re-invigorated emphasis on the run, a new qb, and a new coordinator, it makes sense that they would put Foles in a position where he has actually done very well before—throwing a load of quick ball control passes.
Plus of course there’s an emphasis on defense, so in effect you don’t really get long drives, what you get is field position wars. 8 plays, punt. Defense. Opposing punt. Shorter field.
znModeratorBasically this is just all from the press conference so I put it here.
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Practice Report 7/31: Training Camp Begins
Myles Simmons
Football is back at Rams Park, as the team began training camp on a sunny Friday afternoon in Earth City.
With plenty of fans in attendance, St. Louis practiced without pads, as is customary for the team’s acclimation period over its first few sessions. And head coach Jeff Fisher said he was especially impressed at the way the players passed their conditioning tests earlier in the week.
“As long as I have been here this is the best we’ve had. From the weigh-in, from the conditioning test — guys have really worked hard during the summer,” Fisher said. “Overall, big picture, very pleased with the condition, and the athleticism, and the energy of this football team. They’re very excited to get back.”
But Fisher said the real enthusiasm comes once the team starts practicing in pads.
“It doesn’t feel like today was the first day of camp,” Fisher said. “But the first day of camp really, I think, it takes shape when you see the guys walk out with pads on. Because this is pretty much a repeat of OTAs that we’ve done from installation standpoint.”
As for the goals of camp, Fisher said that the team is keeping things general for the time being.
“There’s just, ‘Let’s get better each day,’” the head coach said. “It’s go out and have fun, enjoy your time together, listen, pay attention and just get better each day. It’s kind of simple here for the next 10 days.”
ON THE QUARTERBACK
According to Fisher, Nick Foles had a good day for his first training camp practice as a Ram.
“It is usually the first couple days of camp you tip your hat towards the defensive side. They usually have the advantage,” Fisher said. “That wasn’t the case today. Nick did a nice job.”
“I felt like it was good,” Foles said. “I mean there’s always — I’d like to hit every pass. That’s my goal every day. You strive for perfection. There’s things we’ll work on, but I felt like for the first day it was the right direction. So tomorrow we just need it to be a little better.”
Fisher added that the team is continuing discussions with Foles on a possible contract extension.
“We are talking with a number of our players right now and their representatives,” Fisher said. “I’m really not involved with it other than that I would like to see us get something worked out at some point with him.”
As for Foles himself, the quarterback said he’s remaining focused on getting better each day in practice.
“That’s why you hire agents because my thing here is to be with these guys, to be a player, to be their quarterback,” Foles said. “We have to win games. We hire agents so that clears the clutter out of our brain, and you know I trust them to do the job.”
ON THE OFFENSIVE LINE
It’s well known by now that the Rams are prepping young offensive linemen to begin the season as starters. And Fisher said Rob Havenstein and Jamon Brown have been steadily improving up front.
“Well again, in no pads, I think Rob’s technique is getting better. ‘JB’ is doing the same,” Fisher said. “And I have no reservation whatsoever, when we line up for the opener, playing rookie offensive linemen. They’re going to get plenty of reps. And they’re the best that we’ll put on the field. So we’ve got confidence.”
Plus, Fisher said that the young linemen have been earning endorsements from veteran D-linemen like Chris Long and Will Hayes.
“They’re saying, ‘These guys are going to be good,’” Fisher said. “Coming from Chris and Will and those guys, that’s pretty impressive.”
GURLEY’S HEALTH
Todd Gurley participated in positional drills on Friday, a significant development in the running back’s rehab process.
“I’m just glad to be out here and just being with the guys and starting camp again,” Gurley said.
Fisher said he wanted to keep the running back off of the Physically Unable to Perform list to give him a chance to practice with his teammates.
“We just felt, in fairness to him, the PUP thing — it just didn’t make sense because he was going to stand there and watch,” Fisher said. “We want to build him. We want to add individual reps. We want him to be able to practice.”
August 1, 2015 at 8:06 am in reply to: reporters on camp, 7/31 (Wagoner, Simmons, etc.) + vids from camp #27845
znModeratorHealthy again, Rams’ McDonald eager to become leader on defense
By Joe Lyons
After sitting out organized team activities (OTAs) in the spring with what he described as an injury “that lingered from last season,” Rams strong safety T.J. McDonald was back where he belonged Friday as the team opened training camp at Rams Park.
“It just felt good to be back out there with the guys, good to be back on the field and working to get back in the groove,’’ the 24-year-old said. “You never want to miss practice because every rep is important, but the key is to be ready when it counts. I feel like we took the right steps during OTAs and I felt good out there today.”
A third-round draft pick in 2013 out of USC, McDonald started 10 games as a rookie, missing six weeks at midseason with a broken leg. A year ago, he started all 16 games and led the secondary with 136 tackles. He also had two sacks, an interception and a fumble recovery. Missing OTAs, he said, was tough, but he tried to make the most of it.
“I love to play this game,’’ McDonald said. “I never like to sit out, but at least I was able to take mental reps, to learn and to help coach up some of the other guys.”
McDonald, who stands 6 feet 2 and weighs 217 pounds, is excited about the Rams’ defense and his expanding role.
“The big thing for me is technique, to make sure I’m doing what needs to be done with no wasted movements,” he said. “I need to improve in coverage and my communication. I want to be a leader for this defense, a guy that can be counted on.
“We know there’s still a lot of work to put in, but we’re definitely excited about this team and especially the defense.”
McGEE HEALTHY AGAIN
Chosen in the fifth round of the 2013 draft, cornerback Brandon McGee played in 15 games and showed some promise, mainly on special teams, as a rookie. But a foot injury basically cost him his sophomore campaign.“It’s part of the game, but it’s definitely frustrating because you know what you’re capable of,” said McGee, 24, after being limited to just two games a year ago. “I think we all believe in ourselves to the highest level. We’re all confident in our abilities. That’s really all I want is to get out there and get a chance to showcase my talents.”The University of Miami product said mental reps allowed him to appreciate the game from a different perspective, but …
“There’s nothing like being out on the field and making plays, making mistakes and learning from those mistakes,” he said.
The Rams have added significant secondary depth in recent seasons, a fact that McGee is keenly aware of.
“Every day you come to practice you have to be ready to compete,” the 5-foot-11, 193-pound McGee said. “The best ability is availability. This is a great defense and I want to be a part of it. For me, the key is staying healthy and giving myself an opportunity to play the type of football I know I’m capable of.”
RAM-BLINGS
• A decent crowd of 1,181 witnessed the Rams’ first training camp workout in Earth City. Last year’s first workout, also on a Friday, drew 1,484.Both the Saturday (3:30 p.m. start) and Sunday (5:30 p.m. start) workouts are also free and open to the public.A sign spotted in the crowd Friday: “Don’t Do It Stan.”
• Quarterback Nick Foles, acquired in an offseason trade with Philadelphia, received the majority of reps and looked solid during Friday’s workout. Lots of high-percentage screen passes were thrown, but Foles also hooked up with tight end Jared Cook on a nice touch pass down the seam.
Foles’ father, Larry, flew in from Austin, Texas, to watch Friday’s workout.
• RB Todd Gurley, selected with the No. 10 overall pick in the spring’s draft, did some work in individual drills and said he’s excited about taking part in football activities again. He said there’s no timetable for his full return.
• Rookie guard Cody Wichmann, a sixth-round draft pick from Fresno State, is on the physically unable to perform (PUP) list with a calf injury. Coach Jeff Fisher said he’s expected to be back at practice in the next seven to 10 days. Defensive end Chris Long did not practice Friday because of stiffness in his back. Safety Mark Barron (knee) did some work on the side with trainers.
August 1, 2015 at 7:50 am in reply to: The real miracle of acupuncture – that anyone still believes in it… #27844
znModeratorSo I take it you don’t believe in accidental self-acupuncture either.
Okay. Well I guess there’s always skeptics.
August 1, 2015 at 7:43 am in reply to: Bobby Wagner: "Can't keep everyone" … Seattle & the cap #27843
znModeratorPete Carroll still hopeful for deal with Bobby Wagner
GLENDALE, AZ – Russell Wilson received a shining new contract from the Seattle Seahawks on Friday. Meanwhile, fellow 2012 draft pick Bobby Wagner continues to wait for one of his own.
While Wilson’s contract eats up a sizable portion of Seattle’s remaining salary cap for this season, head coach Pete Carroll was adamant that it doesn’t preclude the Seahawks from signing Wagner to an extension as well.
“We’re still working, got big stuff to do today. We’re still working. We’re not finished, in case you were wondering,” Carroll said.
“We’re on it. Whoever thought that we were done with that thing that was not right. We’re on it and we’re going to keep competing to get that done. We have planned for this for a long time and nothing has changed in all that. Our guys are working at it by the hour here.”
Wagner expressed support for Wilson in his new contract, saying he was “proud and happy” for Wilson. However, Wagner appeared sufficiently upset that he was still without a new deal himself.
“It could be done, it could not be done. When I have something to sign than it will be done,” Wagner said.
Wilson and agent Mark Rodgers set a Friday deadline for negotiations for his new deal. Does Wagner have a deadline of his own in mind?
“Now. That’s my deadline,” he said.
Per the NFLPA, the Seahawks had $9.2 million in cap space before Wilson’s contract was done. Wilson’s new deal lowers Seattle’s cap room to just under $4 million. That alone could be enough to get a deal done with Wagner.
However, the salary cap is only calculated off the Top 51 contracts in the offseason. In-season, it counts all 53 active roster players, practice squad, injured reserve, PUP/NFI, etc. So effectively, the Seahawks don’t have that much usable cap space.
If Seattle were to get Wagner done, it could necessitate the need to part with other veteran players to get under the salary cap before Week 1.
znModeratorMiklasz: Potential move is buzzkill at Rams camp
By Bernie Miklasz
The Rams have opened their training camp, and they’re hard at work, preparing for the season, trying to improve and doing their best to block out the noise.
In some ways, this will be business as usual. Coaches teaching. Players learning. Team meetings. Polishing fundamentals in the summer heat. Going through repetitions, and fine-tuning their knowledge of the offense and defense.
In other ways, this is a most unusual training camp — a strange way to begin a strange season. No one knows where the Rams will be practicing and training a year from now. They could be in Los Angeles. They could set up, like normal, in Earth City.
And if Rams owner Stan Kroenke gets his way, this will be the team’s final training camp in St. Louis. And for many fans, it’s becoming increasingly difficult to embrace the team they love. When you aren’t sure if the team will run away from you, the natural reaction is to hold back, stay at a safe distance and try to minimize the pain inside.
When an emotional connection between a fan and team is being frayed and gradually severed by feelings of uncertainty, fear and betrayal, it’s excruciatingly difficult to put on a front, feign enthusiasm and pretend that everything is normal.
Is this any way to begin the ritual of getting ready for some football? Something already has been taken away — the happy anticipation of the coming season — and that stinks.
The fans deserve better. But I have empathy for the players, the coaches, and the Rams’ front office. Coach Jeff Fisher and GM Les Snead don’t ask for pity, but I sympathize with them, too.
I feel bad for everyone, really, including the non-football employees who have to market the product, sell the tickets and generate a positive vibe.
And I feel lousy because none of these people is named Stan Kroenke. They just work for Kroenke, but he’s not around. The people who keep the Rams organization going are still here, wanting to do a great job. But they’ll endure the fallout, dealing with the inevitable repercussions that surface when a fan base is agitated and alienated.
The Rams just want what every NFL team has right now: a fired-up fan base, amped to support them, and filled with optimism. Training camp is supposed to a time of building. Precious weeks that not only strengthen a squad of football players but reinforce the bond between a franchise and a community.
The Rams haven’t posted a winning record since 2003, or made the playoffs since 2004. Now in their fourth year in charge of the Rams football operation, Snead and Fisher are setting out in search of their first winning season.
They’ve made significant progress, reconstructing the roster and positioning the Rams for a brighter future. But the problem is away from the field, with the future of the franchise placed on hold.
This is Camp Kroenke. He’s not here, but his presence will be felt.
znModeratorThanks Mike. Good to see you in action.
August 1, 2015 at 12:06 am in reply to: time for the "barring injuries" season record predictions #27834
znModeratorMy thing is, I don;t have a REAL feel for Foles yet. I have to see him play. Right now he’s too “on paper” for me. I felt the same way about Bradford before the 2010 season.
July 31, 2015 at 11:19 pm in reply to: reporters on camp, 7/31 (Wagoner, Simmons, etc.) + vids from camp #27833
znModerator#RamsCamp Practice Report: Day 1
Rams Insider Myles Simmons talks about Todd Gurley practicing on Day 1 of Training Camp.
znModeratorFrom Fisher. Some good things to hear. Yeah it’s early yeah it’s coach speak to an extent but still.
(On if the players have always came in such good shape in his time as head coach for the Rams)
“I told them yesterday that this has been by far, from a results stand point it’s been the best since we’ve been here. When you talk about weight, when you talk about offseason improvement and then you talk about a conditioning level and a conditioning test that they blew away; as the rookies did as well.(On how much of a luxury it is having everyone back on defense)
“Well, we do. We got the 11, but we also got some great competition at the backup spots, so we’ve got some depth. So, when you look at (S) Maurice (Alexander), for example, who’s just a tremendous surprise. You’re okay with him playing safety if you have a problem.(On RB Todd Gurley)
We’re not going to take any chances or any risks or subject him to any danger. But, you can kind of read the tea leaves there. We feel like he’s ahead of schedule and he’s a tremendous athlete, and this is going to give him a chance to know the offense inside and out.(On the young offensive line)
Just in talking with the defensive lineman, obviously we have a veteran group of defensive lineman, they’re saying, ‘These guys are going to be good.’ Coming from (DE) Chris (Long) and (DE) Will (Hayes) and those guys, that’s pretty impressive.”.
znModeratorJim Thomas @jthom1
Jeff Fisher liked what he saw on Day 1, had some praise for undrafted rookie DE Martin Ifedi of Memphis.Safety Mark Barron, still coming back from a knee injury in the spring, worked on the side.
And rookie OL Cody Wichmann (calf) who begins camp on PUP list, is expected to miss first 7 to 10 days of practice.
Chris Long doesn’t practice because of some tightness in his back.
Pretty good crowd at first practice of training camp; we’ll have head count in a bit. One sign in the stands: Don’t Do It Stan.
Otherwise, everybody else practiced. QB Nick Foles threw the ball pretty well. Brushed off questions about his contract, saying he’s. . . . .leaving that up to his agent.. .
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Myles Simmons @MylesASimmons
Gurley said he was feeling comfortable on his knee making lateral cuts, wasn’t thinking about it as much. To my eyes, looked like it, too.
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Nick Wagoner @nwagoner
#Rams off the practice field Friday night. Coach Jeff Fisher pleased with work today. Team going through acclimation period, pads on Monday.
One cool note: Bud Sasser is guest of the team this weekend, checking things out, observing various jobs. A job with team his if he wants.
QOTD-Fisher: “I failed them from the standpoint of I talked to them about wave runners, 4-wheelers, forgot to talk to them about fireworks.”
A small new thing at practice: #Rams had music playing on the field during individual drills. They’ve dabbled in past but not like Friday.
#Rams RB Todd Gurley did some individual drills. Says he’s excited to be doing football activities again. No timetable for full return.
Should add that S Mark Barron also did not practice. Did some work on the side, Fisher said he’s a few days away from a return.
Fisher said #Rams DE Chris Long had some back tightness. He was held out of practice today. OL Cody Wichmann (PUP) only other not involved.
znModeratorJim Fadler @jimiramsboy
Stretching and warming up start Barrett Jones actually has a helmet
Oline fittingly by itself on my right looking for GRob?
Starting Oline just coming out GRob looks noticeably lighter
If anything now that I get a closer look at GRob I understated how much trimmer he looks
Special teams practice with the hero coach Fassel
And just when I had honestly forgotten about Pead my son pointed him out in the pursuit drills
Todd Gurley on the side with a coach doing agility drills
Gurley headed off to the trainers area now
Janoris non tweeter actually looked good as a gunner on a punt drill
More limbering up work now some kick returners Givens among them on the other side
Tre Mason doing some special teams work
coach Fisher once again has on long sleeves in the STL summer sun
Gurley

Gurley in all of the Back drills so far
Position drills the running backs are closest to me I did see Brian Quck with Bailey and Britt
Oline doing some “hit the pads” drills away from me
QB’s join the RB’s Gurley’s burst and quicks stand out
QB’s throwing to receivers now. Keenum gets good extension. Gurley acquits himself well in pass pro drills
Trey Watts did a great job on pass pro, rookie named Terrence Franks woeful
Isiah Battle looks the part of a pro RT
Receivers doing a close order drill slalom drill around 6 trash cans turn a corner, catch a pass, turn a corner another pass
It looks like 7 on 7 time and Oline vs DLine
Quinn is wearing #2 for some reason. Havenstein got beat badly to the inside and then turned his man the next
Jamon Brown looked extremely good including one rep vs Fairley. Timmy Barnes getting manhandled
Saffold and Donald great match up. GRob countered an inside spin move by Quinn
Took a break and watched the 7 on 7. Foles with a really nice deep out to Britt dropped over the defense
Brockers getting the best of Jones for the most part Brandon Washington getting destroyed
Single most impressive rookie on the Oline was Jamon Brown. I thought GRob looked very good
11 on 11 Tre Mason opens at RB
It looks like Chris Long is sitting out today and Tavon has on #1
On deep balls Foles throws awfully flat off his ear
Austin Davis and Trey Watts running with the 2’s
Jacob Hagen a rookie undrafted from Liberty worth watching
Foles hits Cook for a TD down the seam. This pass was perfect good arm extension and loft
Lots of play action and QB rolls so far I assume signs of the future
On a deep fly pattern either the ball slipped from Keenum or Tebow is in town
Mannion looks solid so far doing extremely well on crossing patterns
Ayers with the 1’s on defense
Two minute drill now Tavon drops one
Havenstein not having the best of debuts. Givens half asses a deep pass
And Case Keenum is not having the best of days either
Isiah Pead looks the part, acts the part, should be the part and somehow never is the part
Rams have a 6:05 very fast undrafted rookie named isiah Ferguson WR who has caught my eye
Sean Mannion continues to be nails on crossing routes to a Clemson rookie named Daniel Rodriguez
Greg the Leg finally nails the tower guy…dead center
Rams skimped on camp legs this year and have punter kicker named Palardy
Back to 11 on 11 with Foles and Mason. Maurice Alexander getting some reps with the starters
Timmy Barnes getting the start at center today doubt he can hold it
Givens redeems some of it with A nice sliding grab across the middle
I really like most of what I have seen from Sean Mannion today.
The kid safety I mentioned earlier Hagen with a pick off a deflection
This is the kind of stuff I look for. While the rest are down at Rookie 7 on 7, Brian Quck and Rhaney working with the other 3 QB’s
Cignetti walks down and the post stretching begins heading home now
Brockers and Quinn
July 31, 2015 at 5:14 pm in reply to: A public list of Tweets from Rams Park & Lindenwood (running thread) #27820
znModeratorSame pic, bigger, fwiw
July 31, 2015 at 5:05 pm in reply to: A public list of Tweets from Rams Park & Lindenwood (running thread) #27815
znModeratorThat is what it is. I just skipped the turf times page and went directly to the twitter thing.
Oh.
I thought it was 2 things.
Okay. Thanks.
July 31, 2015 at 4:45 pm in reply to: A public list of Tweets from Rams Park & Lindenwood (running thread) #27809
znModeratorHere’s another at turf show times.
St. Louis Rams Training Camp Live Updates, 7/31Scroll down for ithttp://www.turfshowtimes.com/2015/7/31/9076713/st-louis-rams-training-camp-live-updates-7-31July 31, 2015 at 11:00 am in reply to: Bobby Wagner: "Can't keep everyone" … Seattle & the cap #27797
znModeratorWhat does Wilson’s deal mean for the Rams?
In terms of Foles, it used to be that starting qbs up for their 2nd contract were getting around 18 M on avg., with the low end being 16 M and the high end being 20 M.
Maybe Wilson is raising the avg. He’s just under 22 M a year.
Maybe now the avg. is 19 M with the low end/high end being 17-21+.
If Foles signs for less that that range, IMO, it would be because he has accepted the early extension discount.
If not, any deal would likely be in the 16-18 M range.
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July 31, 2015 at 10:56 am in reply to: Bobby Wagner: "Can't keep everyone" … Seattle & the cap #27796
znModeratorPeter King@SI_PeterKing
Russell Wilson and the Seahawks have agreed to a 4-year, $87.6-million extension, per source.
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