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October 8, 2015 at 6:43 pm in reply to: Reporters on the OL, including PFF OL grades after week 4 #31981
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Every time I have watched Atlanta play, Matthews has struggled, and part of the reason why they are running the ball so much this year. Robinson has improved dramatically, IMO, and I see no reason why he won’t keep improving. he hasn’t even played a whole season at LT, was slowed by learning the OG position, he had off-season surgery, and the offense he came from had a handful of plays. I did expect a learning curve, first, from him being a rookie, and secondly, by all the other factors I listed.
I’ll go out on a limb, and say, barring injury, he will be a slam dunk next year. I already see signs of that. I don’t think he will be an average to good OT, like Matthews might be someday, but great.
Robinson blocked one of the quickest DB’s in the league, on one of our TD’s, and he was the one who noticed, communicated, and picked up the blitz, on a the player that was lined up two gaps out side of him. Now, that’s an island.
I’d still take GRob over Matthews, and he will only get better. When his technique, experience, and discipline catch up to his size, quickness, speed, and strength, watch out. I don’t think that is asking too much of him, either.
October 8, 2015 at 6:18 pm in reply to: Reporters on the OL, including PFF OL grades after week 4 #31979
znModeratorCredit the Rams’ O-Line for Gelling in Gurley’s Big Game
Posted by: Anthony Stalter
http://www.101sports.com/2015/10/06/credit-the-rams-o-line-for-gelling-in-gurleys-big-game/
At 10:48 left in the fourth quarter with the Rams leading by only two, Todd Gurley burst through a hole and rumbled for 52 yards to the Arizona 16-yard-line.
Those 52 yards were part of a 146-yard effort from Gurley as he helped the Rams pick up a 24-22 victory over the Cardinals on Sunday. Gurley has since become the talk among Rams fans, and he deserves the spotlight.
But, Gurley didn’t accomplish the feat by himself.
The Rams’ offensive line has been a lighting rod for criticism since the start of the preseason. Last week in the team’s loss to Pittsburgh, the O-line did its part to suffocate the offense by failing to open up holes in the running game and taking pressure off quarterback Nick Foles.
Some argued that the line held up fine in pass protection, but when defenses shut down a running game they can sit back in coverage in third-and-long and force quarterbacks to make difficult throws in clogged passing windows. Unless we’re talking about the truly elite, QBs can only do so much with no running game and no passing game playmakers.
But something clicked in the desert last Sunday. Suddenly a much maligned offensive line started executing and when you have a back like Gurley, who is capable of breaking tackles and gaining yards after contact, a 5-yard run turns into a 10-yard run.
Or a 52-yard run.
Take that play early in the fourth quarter as example. Out of an Off-set I, the Rams ran a stretch play to their left. At the snap, the offensive line stepped to their left in unison, which is a staple of the new zone-blocking scheme put in place by offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti this spring.
Left guard Jamon Brown and center Tim Barnes executed a perfect double team on Calais Campbell, who winds up being pancaked by Brown. Barnes then slipped off the double team and worked to the second level (another staple of the zone-blocking scheme), where he walled off safety Tony Jefferson (who had lined up in the box for run support).
Also play-side was left tackle Greg Robinson, who put Josh Mauro on skates and wiped him out of the play. Backside, Rodger Saffold blocked down and tossed Ed Stinson like a rag doll, which, along with the work that Barnes, Brown and Robinson put in, created a massive running lane for Gurley.
Gurley did the rest, bursting up field while slipping a tackle and out-running Rashad Johnson before Tyrann Mathieu finally pushed him out of bounds 52 yards later.
Some fans were enraged when the Rams selected Gurley with the 10th overall pick back in April. They asked why, after Zac Stacy showed promise as a rookie, would the Rams draft Gurley when, “they already had running backs on the roster?”
That’s why. That same run may have only netted 12 yards instead of 52 had it been Stacy. Gurley’s combination of size and speed make him special – a playmaker. A difference maker.
But the Rams didn’t receive that type of blocking in the first three games. Even in the win over Seattle, the initial double-team that Brown and Barnes executed was non-existent. Running backs were being met in gaps because the Rams’ O-line wasn’t getting to the second level of the defense. And even when linemen did, they were whiffing on blocks.
That wasn’t Gurley’s only explosive run and that wasn’t the only time the Rams’ offensive linemen executed in the second half. You don’t gain 7.7 yards per carry as a back if you don’t have multiple explosive runs created by your own talents and the ability of your offensive line to create running lanes.
The Arizona game is how teams draw it up. It’s how the Rams envisioned their running game would look back in April.
Now, as with anything else as it pertains to the Rams, we need to see consistency out of the O-line moving forward. It’s time for that group to build off it’s performance in the second half so that the Rams can stay in contention all season
znModeratorWow, sorry about the problems. Welcome back though.
znModeratorWould you rather have the 2015 Rams Defense
or the 1999 Rams Defense?Interesting question. I would take the 2015 unit.
For me the question becomes, who on the 99 unit replaces the equivalent guy in 2015? To me it’s just Fletcher, and no one else. None of the DL and none of the secondary.
znModeratorHe backs up both or just AD?
Just AD. Westbrooks backs up Brockers. Also, Donald is on the field a lot because they put him at at the nose in 3-3 sets in passing situations.
znModeratorAfter 4 games, Fairley has a stat line of 4 tackles, 2 assists and 0.5 sacks.
Not impressive numbers, but of course stats might not tell the whole story.
Anybody have a feel for how well he’s playing? Is he getting much PT?
Fairley developed a rep for being unmotivated and mentally absent in Detroit but in camp with the Rams he seemed refocused. But I think it’s hard for people who have motivational issues to remain motivated for extended periods of time.
Fwiw, numbers.
Snap counts, Rams DL. Not counting special teams. (Of which NF has zero snaps anyway).
99-A.Donald 234
94-R.Quinn 219
91-C.Long 200
90-M.Brockers 169
95-W.Hayes 112
93-E.Westbrooks 74
98-N.Fairley 65
97-E.Sims 31So not much action. But also fwiw, Fairley’s PFF rank:
Fairley is ranked 12th out of 70 DTs and NTs who have played at least 60-something snaps.
Donald btw is rated 1st, and Brockers is 15th.
So anyway that’s all FWIW squared.
znModeratorNumbers don’t lie with Rodgers
Jim ThomasThe numbers for Aaron Rodgers at Lambeau Field are so phenomenal, they defy imagination. Over his last 19 games at home, the Green Bay quarterback has gone 580 passing attempts without throwing an interception.
Not 80. Not 180. We’re talking five hundred eighty. In that span, Rodgers has thrown 48 touchdown passes.
With his mobility, vision, and creativity, he’s anything but a robot. But he plays with robotic-like efficiency. The guy never makes mistakes.
“He doesn’t,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said. “He throws the ball away. And that’s the thing about him. If he gets himself in a third down situation he doesn’t like, he just sails the ball out of bounds and knows he’s going to get another series.’
Rodgers is accurate, decisive, and crafty. If the Rams play their usual off-coverage at cornerback, he’ll be more than happy to pick them apart underneath. That’s the slow death. If they change strategy and get over-aggressive on receivers, his cannon arm will throw it over their heads. That’s the sudden death.
He has one of the best hard-counts in the business, and when he’s draws you offside, he’s not content just to get the five-yard penalty. He’ll try to make you pay by going deep on what amounts to a free play.
If you’re slow getting personnel on and off the field against the Packers’ no-huddle, he’ll get the play off quickly to take advantage.
“What a phenomenal challenge,” linebacker James Laurinaitis said. “It’s a lot more fun when you play a rookie quarterback and you know the coach is telling him to do this no matter what, and you trick him, and then you steal one from him. You ain’t stealing one from Aaron Rodgers.”
Rodgers caps a daunting trifecta of elite quarterbacks the Rams have faced back-to-back-to-back. First came Pittsburgh’s Ben Roethlisberger, then Arizona’s Carson Palmer, now Rodgers. Between them, they have nine Pro Bowls and three Super Bowl titles. This season, all three have passer ratings in excess of 100. But there’s no doubt at Rams Park that Rodgers is king of the hill.
“He’s the best in the biz because he is mobile,” Laurinaitis said. “He can run. People kind of sleep on how athletic he is.”
“Guys like him don’t come around too often,” defensive end William Hayes said. “He’s what Peyton Manning used to be. He’s the best right now in the league.”
Such high praise is telling, because NFL players frequently are hesitant to rate players who play the same position. It speaks volumes about the respect the Rams have for Rodgers.
“He definitely gets that engine going,” safety T.J. McDonald said. “He’s a heckuva player. You know he’s a good player, but when you watch the film it just reinforces it that much more.”
“I think the plays that he makes with his feet go unnoticed sometimes and he’s able to throw his receivers open and makes their life a lot easier. . . .All he needs is small window and he can fit it in there.”
Entering Sunday, Rodgers leads the NFL in passer rating (125.9), having thrown 11 touchdowns and no interceptions, with a 72.4 completion percentage.
Rodgers has posted a 100-plus passer rating in 10 consecutive home games, tying an NFL record set by Kurt Warner in 1999-2000. The Rams will be hard-pressed to keep Rodgers from the record.
Obviously, the Rams will try to get after him with one of the league’s best pass rushes. Their 17 sacks are tied for second in the league (with Green Bay), and just one off the pace of league-leading Denver. But getting Rodgers to the ground is easier said than done.
“It’s hard to get your hands on him,” Hayes said. “He’s always got his eyes downfield. You think you’ve got a sack on him and he just knows how to step up in the pocket real well, and he can run.”
Merely staying in your rush lanes and maintaining outside containment, like you might do against a Russell Wilson of Seattle, isn’t always good enough against Rodgers.
“He’s different from Russell from a standpoint that he’s just a little bit taller,” Fisher said. “(Rodgers) can see. So if you keep him in the pocket, he’s gonna hurt you in the pocket. At times, Russell will lose track of what’s going on down the field and take off.”
So the Rams will try to mix coverages and looks up front. Rest assured, defensive coordinator Gregg Williams will draw up his share of blitzes. And the Rams must challenge Green Bay receivers as much as possible.
The Rams have thought of everything this week in preparing, with Fisher even blowing an air horn near the line off scrimmage in practice Wednesday in an effort to induce the Rams’ defensive front into jumping offside.
When the teams last met in the regular season, in 2012 in St. Louis, the Rams were penalized three times for either being offside or in the neutral zone. The Rams still have 10 defensive players, including six starters, who played in a 30-20 Packers victory.
“This is probably gonna be one of those weeks where you can’t really focus on ‘get-off’ as much because he’s definitely the best in the league when it comes to drawing you offsides,” Hayes said.
To emphasize the point, Fisher even blew the air horn in defensive meetings Wednesday morning, startling some players — Hayes included.
“We were in there looking at film, and he brings the air horn in,” Hayes said. “I jumped up then. That might not be a good sign for me. I guess that was a sign telling me I need to be a little bit more disciplined.”
znModeratorWhile Saffold and Greg Robinson just
stood there.You mean the 2 linemen who have most recently had surgery?

znModeratorFisher uses air horn to keep Rams defensive lineman from jumping offside
Mike Florio
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co…-rams-defensive-lineman-from-jumping-offside/
Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers has demonstrated an uncanny ability to: (1) draw a defense offside with a hard count; and (2) throw the ball down the field for big chunks of yardage during the ensuing free play. The Rams, who play at Lambeau Field on Sunday, hope to avoid those penalties. And coach Jeff Fisher has employed one specific device to keep them in check.
An air horn.
“That’s just a message to the D-line on the hard count,” Fisher told reporters on Wednesday. “No one uses the hard count better than Aaron. And everybody week after week, you’ll read clips and things and all the defensives work against it. ‘We were ready for it.’ He pulls them offsides two or three times a game. So, I woke them up in their meeting room this morning with the horn, just to send a message.”
What did the defensive linemen think of hearing the air horn in the meeting room?
“Some were pissed,” Fisher said. “It scared them.”
Rodgers should scare them even more.
“You watch him on tape, he extends plays,” Fisher said. “He extends to his right, to his left, steps up, runs for first downs and just he knows what to do with the football. He’s pretty impressive.”
How does he compare to a mobile quarterback the Rams already have beaten this year,Russell Wilson?
“Well, he’s different from Russell from a standpoint that he’s just a little bit taller,” Fisher said of Rodgers. “He can see. So, if you keep him in the pocket, he’s going to hurt you in the pocket. At times, Russell will lose track of what’s going on down the field and take off. [Rodgers] will beat you with his legs and his arm. But you just have to change things up as best you can and challenge their receivers.”
It won’t be easy, but the Rams have the talent to have as much success as anyone. Especially if that air horn keeps them from jumping offside.
znModeratorRams 27, Packers 24. Gurley has an even bigger day than he did in Arizona.
Oh. I see. Another pie in the sky optimist. So how are things where you are with all the cotton candy and rainbows.
Btw, you want a real prediction? Rams 24, Packers 22. Packers score 2 TDs, but go for 2 on one and miss, then score 3 FGS.
That just came to me out of the blue.
October 7, 2015 at 4:42 pm in reply to: Ogletree has successful surgery, will miss at least eight weeks #31922
znModeratorOgletree has fibula surgery, no decision from Rams on his season yet
nick Wagoner
EARTH CITY, Mo. — St. Louis Rams linebacker Alec Ogletree entered a sort of injury limbo after undergoing surgery on his fractured right fibula Tuesday morning.
According to Rams coach Jeff Fisher, the surgery was a success. But after Fisher said earlier in the week that Ogletree would either land on injured reserve or injured reserve with the designation to return, Fisher opted for surprise door No. 3: none of the above.
“We have decided not to use the IR designation at this point,” Fisher said. “So, he’ll be out, designated as a Sunday inactive and out. We’ll just kind of see how things go, and there’s a chance for a return. We’re just going to see how things go.”
Ogletree suffered the injury in last week’s 24-22 win against the Arizona Cardinals. He was taken from the field on a cart and the early speculation was that he could miss the entire season.
But just because the Rams aren’t placing him on any form of injured reserve right now should not necessarily be viewed as an indication he’ll be back sooner than the eight weeks a player designated to return would. Or even that he’ll return at all this season.
“It’s going to be longer than eight weeks, but there’s a chance for a return,” Fisher said. “Right now, we use the roster spot.”
In other words, Ogletree’s injury is going to take quite awhile but keeping him from going on injured reserve with the designation to return right now buys the Rams time and flexibility moving forward without having to make a decision after eight weeks. The Rams play at Green Bay this week and then have their bye the following week.
By waiting a couple of weeks, the Rams could theoretically use the designated to return spot on Ogletree then and get him back eight weeks later after what would by then be a 10-week recovery. They also maintain the ability to get a better gauge on when or if Ogletree might return or, in a more unfortunate scenario, save the designated to return spot in case there’s another serious injury.
“In the future, if we need to use the designated IR, designated for return, then we still have it available,” Fisher said.
It could also be an indication of where the Rams might believe they’ll be at the end of the season. Which is to say that Ogletree might not be back before late in the season but if the team is in the playoff mix then, he could possibly return in time for postseason action.
From a roster perspective, the Rams re-signed linebacker Jo-Lonn Dunbar on Tuesday but didn’t have to make a corresponding roster move because there was an opening after the weekend trade of receiver Chris Givens to Baltimore.
The Rams will still have a decision to make on the roster in the near future with running back Trey Watts returning from a four-game suspension. Watts is back with the team and on the practice field but has a one-week roster exemption before the Rams must choose whether to put him on the 53-man roster.
It’s all but certain that Watts will return to the mix next week, which could land Ogletree on some form of injured reserve then or the Rams could go a different direction to create the roster spot. As for replacing Ogletree in the lineup, that job now falls to Akeem Ayers, who is switching from the strong side to the weak side
znModeratorTodd Gurley will test Packers’ improved run defense
Rob Demovsky
GREEN BAY, Wis. — The Green Bay Packers’ run defense has been on quite the run — no pun intended — since Matt Forte trampled all over them in the regular-season opener.
Throw out Forte’s 141-yard performance and the Bears’ rushing total of 189 yards, which was the second-most by any team in Week 1, and the Packers would rank seventh in the NFL against the run. With it, they rank 21st.
The difference?
The Packers’ run defense has improved since giving up 189 yards to the Bears in Week 1.
“I think it’s been the discipline and the fundamentals, and the energy’s been excellent,” Packers coach Mike McCarthy said Wednesday. “We’re getting off blocks. It starts up front. Our line has done a very good job with the gap integrity and really the gap discipline, the penetration opportunities based on the scheme and so forth, and we’re doing a great job of rallying to the ball.”
Defensive coordinator Dom Capers actually credited the improved run defense for setting up the Packers’ increased pressure on the quarterback the last two games.
It’s worth noting that the Packers were short-handed on their defensive line early in the season because of suspensions to Datone Jones (one game) and Letroy Guion (three games). Before Guion returned for Sunday’s 17-3 win at San Francisco, when the Packers held the 49ers to just 77 yards rushing, they were still ranked 27th against the run.
A good starting point to judge how well Dom Capers’ unit can stop the run might be on Sunday against the St. Louis Rams and rookie running back Todd Gurley, who was the 10th overall pick in the draft despite a major knee injury (a torn ACL) last November a Georgia.
Gurley’s breakout performance came perhaps early than expected. After sitting out the first two weeks, Gurley was limited to just six carries (and 9 yards) in his Week 3 debut before going off for 146 yards on 19 carries in Sunday’s upset win at Arizona – a performance that Rams coach Jeff Fisher said did not surprise him and that ESPN Rams reporter Nick Wagoner broke down here.
“We drafted him for a reason,” Fisher said Wednesday on a conference call with reporters at Lambeau Field. “We drafted him to be the back of our future. We did not draft him to play and win the opener. We drafted him, as I said, to be that guy that we can count on through years to come. We were very patient with him. He worked really hard, as you can imagine.
“Anybody coming off of that injury, to come back and do the things that he did last week, has to work hard. And he did. We monitor his reps, and we took him softly and carefully through the preseason and just increased his reps. We just felt like it was a matter of time before he was going to hit some runs. It was really impressive.”
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znModeratorRams-Packers Preview
AP
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/rams-packers-preview-100715
The Green Bay Packers still possess one of the NFL’s most prolific offenses, but an improving defense has the squad feeling particularly good about its best start in four years.
Following breakout performances by Todd Gurley and Tavon Austin, the St. Louis Rams feel they’re making similar strides on the other side of the ball.
As the Packers go after their 11th consecutive home win, the inconsistent Rams will try to remove a team from the unbeaten ranks for the second straight week Sunday.
Aaron Rodgers leads the league with 11 touchdowns passes and a 125.9 passer rating while leading Green Bay to the NFL’s sixth-best scoring average at 28.3 per game.
The reigning MVP has no interceptions this year and none in 574 attempts compared to 48 TDs over his last 19 games at Lambeau Field, including three playoff contests. His last interception at home came against Minnesota on Dec. 2, 2012.
The Packers (4-0), however, may be most pleased with how they’re playing defensively after holding an opponent to three points or less for only the second time since the 2011 season. They limited San Francisco to 196 total yards in last Sunday’s 17-3 road win.
“They always say defenses win championships. As long as we’re all playing on all cylinders, we can’t be beat,” said linebacker Nick Perry, who had two of Green Bay’s six sacks.
That defense has held Kansas City and the 49ers to a combined 152 yards on 4.1 per carry in the last two games, including 20 yards on nine attempts by San Francisco running backs. Green Bay shares the NFC lead in points allowed (17.8 per game) and ranks eighth in the NFL in total defense (312.0 ypg).
The Packers now seek their first 5-0 start since winning their first 13 games in 2011. They’ve won all 11 home games the beginning of last season, including a playoff matchup with Dallas, while averaging 37.2 points.
The Rams have been one of the most difficult teams to figure out, beating defending NFC champion Seattle in overtime in Week 1 and upsetting undefeated Arizona 24-22 on the road last Sunday. In between, they lost 24-10 at Washington and 12-6 to visiting Pittsburgh.
“It just shows that we have talent and all we have to do is come out and play every week and stay together as a team,” cornerback Janoris Jenkins said.
St. Louis (2-2) was ranked last offensively after totaling 16 points and 471 total yards in its two defeats, but the squad is more optimistic after scoring three TDs against an Arizona team which allowed just four during its 3-0 start. The Rams racked up a season-high 164 yards on the ground against the defensively stout Cardinals.
Playing in only his second game because of a knee injury, Gurley displayed the potential that made him the 10th overall pick in this year’s draft by running for 144 yards on 15 carries in the second half. The Rams didn’t top 80 yards rushing in any of their first three games.
“(Gurley’s) done all of the extra things. He’s that complete back,” coach Jeff Fisher told the team’s official website. “That’s the reason we drafted him, because we knew he was like that. … He’s a real pro.”
Austin, the eighth overall pick in 2013, had six catches for 96 yards and two touchdowns after totaling eight receptions for 42 yards in the first three games. He also ran twice for 20 yards, improving his average to 7.7 per carry on 10 attempts.
Maybe the diminutive Austin could become a go-to guy for Nick Foles and a Rams team which has no one among the league’s top 60 in receptions. Foles had three TD passes last Sunday after totaling two through his first three games as a Ram, finishing 16 of 24 for 171 yards without an interception.
“He plays within rhythm, he has good footwork, he’s decisive, he knows where to go with the football,” Packers coach Mike McCarthy told his team’s official website. “It looks like he does a good job of scheme recognition pre-snap, and he does a good job running their system.”
The man who runs things defensively, though, will be missing. Linebacker Alec Ogletree, who has a team-high 55 tackles, underwent surgery to repair his fractured right fibula on Tuesday.
The Rams are moving Akeem Ayers from strong-side to weak-side linebacker and have signed veteran Jo-Lonn Dunbar, who started for them at strong-side the past three seasons but was released at the end of the preseason.
St. Louis is tied with Green Bay for second in the NFL with 17 sacks, though the Rams have been susceptible against the run. They rank 26th at 120.3 yards allowed per game.
That’s an area of concern against a Packers team that ranks third in the NFL with 136.3 rushing yards per game. Eddie Lacy is coming off a season-high 90-yard effort.
It’s uncertain whether wide receiver Davante Adams will return from an ankle injury.
Green Bay has won four straight against the Rams, but the most recent came in 2012.
znModeratorPackers’ Next Opponent: St. Louis Rams scouting report
Green Bay — Under coach Jeff Fisher, the St. Louis Rams have won as a 9-point underdog against Denver in 2014, as a 7 ½-point underdog at Indianapolis in 2013 and as a 7-point underdog Sunday in Arizona.
Now Fisher’s Rams would be able to top those upsets, at least on paper, with a victory Sunday over the unbeaten Green Bay Packers at Lambeau Field. The Packers are favored by 9 ½.
“St. Louis, 23-20,” said an executive in personnel for an AFC team. “Because the Rams can get to Aaron Rodgers with their front four and their secondary has good coverage ability. The Rams also have plenty of playmakers to be productive running and passing.”
The Rams’ formidable rush was the reason a pair of assistant coaches for teams that played St. Louis forecast a close game that will be won by the Packers, 17-10.
“Anybody that thinks St. Louis is easy…if you’ve got a defensive line like they’ve got, if you just don’t beat yourselves, you’ve got a chance to be in every game,” one coach said. “You’ve never seen a front like these guys.
“Despite Aaron Rodgers and all that crew, I’m going to say it’s not going to be a high-scoring game. The Rams’ offense is nothing special but this running back is really good.”
Not quite 11 months removed from reconstructive knee surgery, Todd Gurley exploded in the second half for most of his 146 yards in 19 carries as the Rams beat the Cardinals, 24-22.
“Gurley’s going to make some yards if you don’t get him hemmed in, but I think the Packers will be able to do that pretty effectively,” the other coach said. “But I’ll tell you what. They’re going to have to do some pass blocking against that rushing line. They’re really good.”
A personnel man for an NFC club called for a 27-10 triumph for Green Bay.
“Gurley has star ability and, behind an average at best offensive line, will stress Green Bay a little early,” he said. “But St. Louis can’t consistently block Green Bay’s pressures and they don’t have a No. 1 wide receiver.
“Rodgers, with his quick release, mobility and command of the offense will make St. Louis’ D-line less effective. Green Bay’s receivers and tight end can take advantage of the Rams’ linebackers and average secondary.”
OFFENSE
Scheme
First-year coordinator Frank Cignetti, who coached QBs alongside Mike McCarthy in New Orleans from 2000-’01, calls the plays. The new zone-blocking run game focuses on getting the back at least to the hole. Cignetti uses bunch sets of receivers and tear sweeps featuring the exciting Tavon Austin. The Rams are tied for seventh in turnovers (four), 25th in points (18.5) and 32nd in yards (287.8).
Receivers
The return of Brian Quick (6-3 ½, 218) last week from a mid-2014 shoulder injury provides a fourth capable WR. The best probably is former Titan Kenny Britt (6-3, 223), the 30th pick in 2009. He has 34-inch arms, can get deep, is a gigantic target and runs hard after the catch. Austin (5-8 ½, 176), the eighth pick in ’13, has instant acceleration, a 40 time of 4.30 and stop-start quickness. The Rams use him like Seattle used Percy Harvin: slot, reverses, bubble screens, etc. Stedman Bailey (5-10, 193), a third-round pick in ’13, runs exquisite routes and catches everything. His speed, however, is average (4.53) and he’s too thin for heavy exposure inside. Quick, a second-round pick in ’12, finally was starting to emerge last year when injury struck. He remains big, fast and unrefined. Former Titans TE Jared Cook (6-4 ½, 254) runs extremely well, has 35 ¾ arms and stretches defenses vertically. His hands are shaky, however, and his blocking is marginal. Lance Kendricks (6-3, 250), who played at Milwaukee King and UW, is a four-year starter. He lacks some size and also will drop, but is athletic, catches consistently and runs about 4.6. TE-FB Cory Harkey (6-4, 259) lacks ball skills but gets after people as a point-of-attack blocker.
Offensive line
The leader, LT Greg Robinson (6-5, 332), is far from being a great player after being the No. 2 pick in the ’14 draft. He has long arms (35), strong hands and a mean streak. Just 22, he’s still learning how to play. His feet are good, not great. The other solid regular is RG Rodger Saffold (6-4 ½, 332), a second-round pick in ’10 whose six-year career as a starter has been interrupted frequently by injury. He still moves well and has the mass to anchor, but most guards are more physical. Two rookies, LG Jamon Brown (6-3 ½, 323) and RT Rob Havenstein (6-7 ½, 321), and C Tim Barnes (6-3 ½, 306) are first-year starters. Brown, a third-round pick, takes up space, has long arms (34 3/8) and is effective in close quarters. Barnes is smart, agile and strong enough but struggles getting up to the LB level and working in space. Havenstein, the former Badger drafted in the second round, is another mauler. So far, he has held up OK.
Quarterbacks
Nick Foles (6-5, 243), the Eagles’ third-round pick in ’12, started 25 games over three years, posting a 15-10 record and passer rating of 94.5. He was magnificent (rating of 149.5, 38 yards rushing) in Game 9 of 2013 when the Eagles won at Lambeau Field, 27-13. On March 10, coach Chip Kelly traded Foles plus second- and fourth-round picks to St. Louis for QB Sam Bradford and a No. 5 pick. After four starts, Foles ranks 15th at 96.5. His arm strength, touch and accuracy are adequate. He takes few chances and makes adequate decisions. He scored 29 on the Wonderlic intelligence test. His 40 time is a ponderous 5.1. Case Keenum (6-1, 205), who started 10 games for Houston in 2013-’14 (2-8, 76.8 rating) is No. 2. He has a weak arm but isn’t afraid to use it.
Running backs
Rookie Todd Gurley (6-0 ½, 227), the 10th pick, broke out Sunday in his second game since undergoing ACL surgery Nov. 15. He has breakaway speed, a downhill approach, tremendous body control and a workhorse mentality. He’s somewhat like a young Steven Jackson. Gurley played 36 of 53 snaps, leaving 15 for third-down back Benny Cunningham (5-9 ½, 217) and two for backup Tre Mason (5-8 ½, 207). Cunningham has excellent hands, probably handles the blitz better than Gurley and exudes toughness. Mason, a third-round pick in ’14, led the team in rushing (765, 4.3) last year. He’s quicker than fast.
DEFENSE
Scheme
Flamboyant Gregg Williams, a former head coach in Buffalo and coordinator for five other teams, rejoined Jeff Fisher in 2014. He believes in a pressure 4-3 defense that often employs just three linemen on passing downs. His base coverages in the first month have been off-man and Cover 2. The Rams rank 13th in points (22.3), tied for 13th in takeaways (six) and 16th in yards (355.5).
Defensive line
St. Louis is loaded with four first-round starters. Three-technique DT Aaron Donald (6-1, 290) and DE Robert Quinn (6-4, 264) might be the NFL’s best at their positions. Donald ran a phenomenal 4.66, has exceptional quickness off the ball, great balance, goes all-out all the time and knows how to finish. The best thing to do is run at him. Quinn, a right end only, is a remarkable athlete with 34-inch arms, 4.64 speed and an expanding repertoire of moves. No longer is he just speed. He’s working inside and power-rushing, too. NT Michael Brockers (6-5, 326), only 24, uses 35-inch arms to stack and shed effectively at the point. His rush isn’t bad, either. Chris Long (6-3, 268), the graybeard at 30, is smart (Wonderlic of 34), technically superior and tenacious. He rushes well with power or speed. Former Titan William Hayes (6-3, 278) has 25 sacks in 7½ seasons and is first off the bench. He wins mostly with power but can and will take an edge to the QB. Versatile Ethan Westbrooks (6-3 ½, 267), a rookie free agent in ’14, isn’t sound against the run but don’t sleep on him. He’s a tough, long-armed, natural rusher. Former Lions DT Nick Fairley (6-4, 308) is just 27, but injuries and weight issues appear to have robbed him of his physical edge.
Linebackers
The Rams took a major hit Sunday when WLB Alec Ogletree suffered a broken ankle. He played every snap, had 24 more tackles than any other Ram and was extremely valuable given his terrific speed. It means that SLB Akeem Ayers (6-2 ½, 255), who is averaging just 16.8 snaps, must replace Ogletree. A former Titan-Patriot, Ayers is a fluid athlete with 4.75 speed and rush skill. Hard-hitting Jo-Lonn Dunbar (6-0 ½, 235), a productive 63-game starter for the Saints and Rams from 2008-’14, was re-signed Tuesday. He knows the system and might start at SLB. MLB James Laurinaitis (6-2, 248), a durable seven-year starter, runs the defense, competes hard and never leaves the field. He isn’t a lusty hitter but gets people down and is a big-play threat.
Secondary
It’s possible that SS Mark Barron (6-1, 217), drafted No. 7 by Tampa Bay in ’12, will take many of Ogletree’s snaps in nickel. He’s small to handle a steady diet of Eddie Lacy but he is tough, physical and knows his way around the box. The Bucs traded Barron last October because his speed wasn’t conducive for playing off the hashes. Williams has always had a hybrid player to blitz, cover and tackle. SS T.J. McDonald (6-2 ½, 217), a third-round pick in ’13, is a reckless hitter who is slower than Barron and must play near the line. He gets exposed in space. Improving FS Rodney McLeod (5-9 ½, 195), a three-year starter, was an undrafted free agent. He’s undersized and runs just 4.60, but his range seems better and his game is approaching respectability. RC Janoris Jenkins (5-10, 198), a second-round pick in ’12, is a gifted cover man with 4.43 speed. His keen instincts can lead to big plays or big mistakes. LC Trumaine Johnson (6-2, 208), a third-round pick in ’12, tries to intimidate receivers downfield. He runs just 4.55, will short-circuit and tries to tackle high. No. 3 CB Lemarcus Joyner (5-8, 184), a second-round pick in ’14, is smart and tough in the slot but isn’t sudden.
Special teams
K Greg Zuerlein, a four-year regular, has a big leg and is solid. P Johnny Hekker, another four-year regular, made the Pro Bowl in ’13 and is off to another fine start for fourth-year coordinator John Fassel. Tavon Austin can be dynamite on punt returns. Benny Cunningham is a power runner on kickoffs. LB Daren Bates, Joyner and Barron excel.
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GAME-BREAKER
When West Virginia’s Tavon Austin entered the draft in 2013, he was compared by some scouts to Reggie Bush and Randall Cobb. Primarily a wide receiver, he rushed for 344 yards against Oklahoma in 2012. Austin scored four rushing TDs, three receiving TDs and two returning TDs in 28 games during his first pro two seasons. His impact seems to have increased this year judged by the four he’s scored in the first four games. On Sunday, he caught a pair of 12-yard TD passes in posting the second-best receiving game (six for 96) of his career. In the opener, he returned a punt 75 yards for a TD against Seattle.
WEAKEST LINK
When the season started the Rams had by far the least experienced offensive line in the league. Their five starters had just 72 starts: 60 for RG Rodger Saffold, 12 for LT Greg Robinson and four for C Tim Barnes. In contrast, the Packers’ starters had 287 starts under their belts, including playoffs; one of their backups, Don Barclay, had 21. Under Paul Boudreau, an O-line coach with 29 years of NFL experience for seven teams, the Rams rank 16th in sack percentage (six allowed) and second in yards per rush (4.55). The unit won’t wow anyone with its talent, but so far it has been at least functional.
McGINN’S VIEW
Few NFL coaches know more about the game’s history than Jeff Fisher.
He won a Super Bowl ring as a safety with the Bears in 1985. He has either served or consulted on the NFL Competition Committee since 2000. This is his 21st season as an NFL coach.
Fisher knows full well that some teams have won Super Bowls with an abundance of depth in the defensive line. He appears to be following that strategy in St. Louis.
Of the Rams’ eight defensive linemen, five were drafted in the first round. Fisher selected two since taking charge in 2012: Michael Brockers in ’12 (14th pick) and Aaron Donald in ’14 (13th).
In March, Fisher gave oft-injured Nick Fairley $1.5 million guaranteed to leave Detroit as a free agent. Prior to Fisher’s hiring, the Rams drafted Chris Long with the second pick in 2008 and Robert Quinn with the 14th pick in ’11.
The Rams’ adjusted salary cap of $144.67 million includes $46.756 million for the eight D-linemen. That’s almost one-third of their payroll being spent on one position group.
In the last 30 years, three organizations that won more than one Super Bowl come to mind for their hoarding of defensive linemen.
The ’84 49ers kept all nine active in their rout of Miami. The starters, Lawrence Pillers, Manu Tuiasosopo and Dwaine Board, were backed by Fred Dean, Gary “Big Hands” Johnson, Jim Stuckey, Jeff Stover, Michael Carter and Louie Kelcher.
The ’92 Cowboys demolished Buffalo with Tony Tolbert, Tony Casillas, Russell Maryland and Charles Haley as starters and Jim Jeffcoat, Jimmie Jones, Chad Hennings and Leon Lett as backups.
The ’11 Giants shocked New England with Justin Tuck, Linval Joseph, Chris Canty and Jason Pierre-Paul backed by Osi Umenyiora, Dave Tollefson, Rocky Bernard and Jimmy Kennedy.
It remains to be seen if the Rams can build an offense to go with what can be a dominating front. At least they’re following a blueprint that has worked.
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znModeratorfrom off the net
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Elmgrovegnome
Green Bay stats vs Rams
Green Bay 31 @ Bears 23
Green Bay 27 Seahawks 17
Green Bay 38 Chiefs 28
Green Bay 17@ 49ers 3Rams 34 Seahawks 31
Rams 10 @Redskins 24
Rams 6 Steelers 12
Rams 24 @Cardinals 22In comparison the only common game they have is Seattle. The Rams put more points on the Seahawks but didn’t hold them to as many. Green Bay put up a lot of points against the Chiefs is notable. Only putting up 17 on San Francisco is too. Injuries are hurting them. So is it possible that the last game will be more indicative of what their current offensive situation is?
Packers offense 28.2 pts a game
Rams offense 18.5 and improvingPackers defense 17.8 pts a game
Rams defense 22 pts per gameThis stat does not look good unless you consider that the 49ers game skews the stat. If the Niners score at least 18 it would have brought GB up to 21.5
Right now Green Bay is looking better on both O and DTurnover differentlial goes to GB too at 4. St.Louis is at 2. Green Bay rarely turns the ball over. Hopefully that is because they only played one two good defenses and one played poorly against them.
I would feel better if this game was at home but if the Rams could somehow win this game and make it two tough teams on the road I would be estatic and it would be a huge jump in maturity. They would suddenly look like a real contender and have a great bye week record at 3-2.
October 7, 2015 at 9:00 am in reply to: 101, 10/6 … Wagoner, Clayton, Tony Boselli, Charles Davis #31902
znModeratorThat Raven game might just have to be
played under the Thunderdome.Ravens are a little off this year so far.
znModeratorI would say the key to the game was simply the Rams Defensive
speed and pressure. It seemed to throw the Cardinal offense off,
‘juusssssst’ enough for a few passes to be rushed and a few passes
to be dropped. I mean, the Cards were obviously game, and not intimidated,
but the Ram D rattled them just enough to cause a few mistakes, in the
cardinal machine. The best example was Palmers last pass — the WR was
open and it would have been an easy pass to complete, and the WR was
well within winning-Field-goal range — but Palmer was just a bit off.
That was the game.Well I agree with your whole report, and especially that.
October 7, 2015 at 8:32 am in reply to: 101, 10/6 … Wagoner, Clayton, Tony Boselli, Charles Davis #31899
znModeratorI agree with Charles Davis — they dont have to beat GBay,
but they have to beat Cleveland in two weeks.
Gotta be 3 and 3 at the bye.
Gotta start beating the nonplayoff teams.w
vWell I agree with that of course, except with one minor revision. The Cleveland game is after the bye. So they have to be 3-3, after after the bye.
Man. They have a bye week to get ready for a home game against Cleveland.
If they find a way to lose that one, they deserve to be grounded and have their allowances docked.
The 11 games immediately after the bye:
Cleveland
San Francisco
@ Minnesota
Chicago
@ Baltimore
@ Cincinnati
Arizona
Detroit
Tampa Bay
@ Seattle
@ San FranciscoSuddenly it doesn’t look so tough.
znModeratorI don’t know why I waste my football prognosticating smarts on you lot
Because we let you start the “next game prediction” threads.
Speaking of which, where’s the Green Bay thread?

znModeratorbut this season he looks just so much more confident. he’s noticeably stronger. plays where he’d get knocked down in the past he’s able to fight through and gain yardage.
I see the same things.
znModeratorNote: see the previous post from me, which has other week 4 rankings.
Rams rise in AP power rankings
http://wtop.com/nfl/2015/10/rams-rise-in-ap-power-rankings-pats-pack-broncos-1-2-3/
NEW YORK (AP) — The St. Louis Rams will get a better idea of how strong they really are in the AP Pro32 power rankings this weekend, when they visit the unbeaten Green Bay Packers.
The Rams made the biggest jump in the latest power rankings, improving nine spots to No. 10 in voting by the 12 media members who regularly cover the NFL. St. Louis is 2-2 after handing Arizona its first loss of the season.
“With victories over Seattle and Arizona already this season, the future is now for the young Rams,” voter Rick Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News said.The New England Patriots, Packers and Denver Broncos remained 1-2-3 for the fourth week in a row, while the Atlanta Falcons moved up two spots to fourth.
The Patriots had seven first-place votes and 379 points; the Packers five first-place votes and 377 points; and the Broncos 352 points. The Falcons, after their win over Houston, moved ahead of Cincinnati and Carolina. The top six teams are unbeaten.
znModeratorLMU93
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/2015/week-4-dvoa-ratings
FootballOutsiders: Rams ranked 13th after 4 weeks
21st in offense
8th in defense
6th in special teamsNick Foles ranked 14th out of 34 QBs.
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PFT’s Week Five power rankings
Mike Florio
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/06/pfts-week-five-power-rankings/
1. Patriots (3-0; last week No. 1): The bye week, the one weekend of the year when the Patriots definitely won’t win.
2. Packers (4-0; No. 2): When they envisioned finally beating the 49ers, they likely assumed the 49ers would be a little bit better than they currently are.
3. Broncos (4-0; No. 3): Peyton Manning should be very glad he’ll never have to face the Denver defense.
4. Bengals (4-0; No. 5): They’re separating from the rest of the division; the next goal is to separate from the rest of the conference.
5. Falcons (4-0; No. 6): Matt Ryan, Devonta Freeman, and Julio Jones are the new triplets.
6. Cardinals (3-1; No. 4): We’ll know a lot more about this team after back-to-back games at Detroit and Pittsburgh.
7. Panthers (4-0; No. 10): The schedule gets a lot tougher, soon.
8. Seahawks (2-2; No. 9): Jimmy Graham doesn’t block in the running game. And the offensive line doesn’t block in the passing game.
9. Jets (3-1; No. 14): The Jets hadn’t killed a coach this convincingly since Rich Kotite.
10. Rams (2-2; No. 17): Sunday’s win over the Cardinals inevitably will be bookended by a loss to someone like the Browns.
znModeratorBut the one word for Foles’ play this week absolutely is clutch. Look at the red zone 3rd-down situations Foles and the Rams converted, and that Carson Palmer and the Cardinals didn’t. That’s the ball game right there.
Yeah I think that;s the thing you hang your hat on with Foles. He ain’t always the smooth groove qb but he can be clutch.
October 6, 2015 at 9:59 pm in reply to: 101, 10/6 … Wagoner, Clayton, Tony Boselli, Charles Davis #31875
znModeratorCharles Davis says Laurinaitis had his best game as a Ram and the defensive line played a key role
October 6, 2015 at 9:32 pm in reply to: Fisher post-game, 10-4… plus links to highlights (EXPANDED) #31872
znModeratorRelive It: Rams at Cardinals
Check out the highlights from the Rams win over the Arizona
Cardinals—-
Top 10 Plays at Cardinals
Who were the top performers at Arizona? Check out this video to find out
znModeratorFoles Made Money Throws at Arizona
Bernie Miklasz
http://www.101sports.com/2015/10/06/daily-bits-foles-made-money-throws-at-arizona/
In Sunday’s 24-22 upset win over the Cardinals on Sunday at Arizona, I thought Rams quarterback Nick Foles was superb when it mattered most. For all of the talk about Foles being steady and smart — words normally used to describe game-manager QB types — let’s not underestimate his ability to make big plays.
On third-down plays against the Cardinals, Foles completed 6 of 11 for 58 yards, which doesn’t jump out at you. But his three TD passes came on third-down throws, and he had a third-down passer rating of 109.1 in the game. In the Rams’ two wins this season Foles has a 123.8 passer rating on third down. Through four games this season Foles ranks 7th among NFL quarterbacks with a third-down passer rating of 114.2. Moreover, Foles leads the NFL with four touchdown passes on third down.
And then there was Foles’ play in the red zone at Arizona. He completed 5 of 6 passes for three touchdowns, averaging 9.76 yards per attempt, with a passer rating of 146.5.
Foles was terrific in the opening wing over Seattle, not so good in the Rams’ dreary loss at Washington, and he threw a careless interception that sealed the Rams’ fate in their loss to Pittsburgh. But he’s also operating behind an inexperienced offensive line, and throwing to (mostly) young receivers, and the Rams’ rushing attack was running in place until rookie Todd Gurley took over Sunday’s game in the fourth quarter. Among other issues the Rams have dropped 11 passes already, and they’ll have to clean that up.
According to Pro Football Focus Foles has been under pass-rush pressure on 40 percent of his dropbacks, the seventh-highest rate among NFL starters. It’s been only four games, but I’ve seen enough to be impressed with Foles’ accuracy under fire. Excluding dropped passes, intentional throwaways and throws batted at the line, Foles’ adjusted accuracy rate of 78 percent on attempts under pressure ranks No. 3 among starting quarterbacks.
Foles doesn’t scare.
“He got hit too many times,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said Monday, discussing the win at Arizona. “We have to get better there. I don’t like to see our quarterback on the ground. But when he hung in there, he bought himself time. He trusted a clean pocket and got the ball down the field.”
Another notable aspect of Foles’ game is his skill and effectiveness with play-action passes. He did well with play fakes in Philadelphia and has brought that touch to St. Louis. That’s why it’s essential for the Rams to have a strong rushing game. And that’s why Gurley’s 146-yard breakout at AZ was so important.
The more the Rams offense can make defenses wary of Gurley’s threat to break away, that will help Foles. He can fake the handoff to Gurley, con the defense into thinking it’s a running play, and then wheel to throw downfield. It can be a beautiful way for the Rams to attack a defense.
Foles completed 6 of 8 play-action throws at Arizona, averaging a big 11.6 yards per passing attempt.
For the season (according to Pro Football Focus) Foles has completed 22 of 30 play-action passes (73.%), for an average of 12.2 yards per attempt, with one TD and no pickoffs. His play-action passer rating of 125 ranks third among quarterbacks, exceeded by Derek Carr and Cam Newton.
“I will be the first one to say we have a long ways to go,” Foles said after Sunday’s game. “We still have a lot of room to improve. I know the guys are hungry to improve. This was a great team win … it starts with converting third downs. I believe we did a better job today. We were able to sustain some drives and really march it down the field. We just have to stay hungry, keep working and pay attention to detail. It is all those things and just putting in the extra time. We are a young team so we have to put in that extra time every single day to get better and take the next step forward.”
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Gurley had nine carries for 106 yards in the fourth quarter Sunday, becoming only the second NFL running back to churn for 100+ yards in the fourth quarter in a game since the start of the 2013 season. Pittsburgh’s Le’Veon Bell (110 yards) did it last season in a Dec. 7 game at Cincinnati … Foles’ true accuracy rate (80%) ranks fifth among NFL starters this season.
And Finally …
The debacle at the end of the Detroit @ Seattle game was ludicrous on so many levels. How can an officiating crew miss such an obviously illegal “bat” of the ball out of the end zone by Seattle linebacker K.J. Wright on a Calvin Johnson fumble caused by Seahawks safety Kam Chancellor? This was much, much worse than the error made by the replacement officials in that famous Seattle-Green Bay end zone catch/INT in 2012. This was a full-time crew.
And there’s no doubt this was a blown call. NFL Vice President of Officiating Dean Blandino confirmed that on the NFL Network late Monday night. Had the illegal batting been cited and called correctly, the ball would have gone back to Detroit via penalty, with a first and goal inside the 1-yard line. At that point, the Lions (trailing 13-10) would have had an 81 percent chance of winning the game according to the “Win Probability” odds.
What I don’t understand is this: Blandino and his staff monitor every game, every play, live. They’re also connected to the officiating crew working the game and have the means to communicate directly with the head official. So why didn’t Blandino intervene? He’s done that before this season — clearing up the officials’ initial mistake on that tricky Seattle onsides kick attempt that began the overtime period in St. Louis.The back judge on the play told Blandino that the batting was “inadvertent.” Which is absurd, of course. Wright even admitted that he batted the ball intentionally.
This was just a massive screwup by a league that should never, ever allow such a critical play to stand without a review — no matter what the inadequate rules state about replay-review protocol. Or whether a play is a “judgment” call and therefore not reviewable. (Makes no sense … isn’t it a judgment call when the officials decide whether a receiver caught a pass or not? Those plays can be reviewed. So what’s the difference?)Result: Ballgame, and a tainted victory for Seattle. And the Seahawks were able to escape with a win that leveled their record at 2-2. With a defeat, Seattle would be toting a 1-3 record into a tough road game at Cincinnati on Sunday. So this call not only dumped the Lions to 0-4, but it conceivably impacted the Rams, Cardinals and 49ers in the NFC West. If the race for first place is close, the officiating blunder and Blandino’s failure to be proactive and get the call right may end up costing one of the Seahawks’ division rivals.
But let’s not forget about the Lions role in this … first of all, Johnson has to do a more reliable job of protecting the football. He made it easy for Chancellor to dislodge the ball and cause the fumble. Second, it’s obvious that Detroit coach Jim Caldwell was oblivious to a rule that’s been in the books for a long time. Gerry Austin, ESPN’s officiating advisor, confirmed as much after the game. “I spent 26 years in the league,” he said on ESPN. “The (intentional batting) rule has been there the entire time.”
If Caldwell knew the rules, he could have called timeout to get the officials’ attention. Or he could have made a ruckus to get the officials’ attention. But he did nothing. “What can you do, know what I mean? We’re not going to cry about it, that’s for sure,” Caldwell told reporters after the game.
What you can do, Coach, is know the rules.As former New England linebacker Rosevelt Colvin tweeted Monday night: “I PROMISE YOU BILL BELICHICK KNOWS THAT RULE…’CAUSE WE PRACTICED IT IN OUR SITUATIONAL PRACTICES
October 6, 2015 at 9:09 pm in reply to: multi-media player-fest thread: Gurley, Foles, Bailey, tba #31869
znModeratorBailey reminds us all: Don’t sleep on Stedman
Jim Thomas
Jeff Fisher wasn’t amused, and there’s a good chance wide receiver Stedman Bailey will receive a letter from the NFL this week — the kind informing players they have been fined.
But for pure entertainment purposes, it’s hard to beat Bailey’s clever touchdown celebration following an 18-yard reception that gave the Rams a 17-9 lead over Arizona in third quarter Sunday.
After making the grab in the right corner of the end zone, Bailey dropped to the ground and lay there for a few seconds before getting up. Did he slip? Was he out of breath? Was he hurt?
None of the above. Replays showed Bailey with his head on the football, using it like a … uh … pillow.
Even Tavon Austin, who watched Bailey score many a touchdown when they were college teammates at West Virginia, was temporarily confused.
“I don’t know what he was doing on the ground,” Austin said, chuckling. “Probably using the football as a pillow on the ground over there. I can’t celebrate with him, so I let him do his thing — get his Zs — and then he popped right up. He went to sleep for a little bit, but he woke up.”
And that, Bailey explained, was exactly the point.
“I just feel like at times a lot of guys around just sleep on me,” Bailey explained. “So you know I just wanted to let ’em know they need to wake up.”
Bailey has displayed flashes of talent since the Rams selected him in the third round of the 2013 draft, but he’s had to fight for playing time in the pros. In two-plus NFL seasons, Bailey has a modest 53 receptions for 749 yards. His TD catch in the Rams’ 24-22 upset victory over the Big Red was only the second of his career.
(He’s also scored a TD on an end-around, as well as on the famed “Mountaineer” 90-yard trick-play punt return last year vs. Seattle.)
“I kind of know that I can do a lot of good things in this league,” Bailey said. “At times things don’t really go our way where I can showcase everything that I can do. But I’m just trying to stay patient and wait for my time.”
Fisher was not a fan of the post-TD hijinks. He already has had a talk with Bailey about it. It could’ve cost the Rams a 15-yard penalty for using the football as a prop.
Nonetheless, Bailey scored points for creativity with his teammates.
“It was different, man,” said veteran defensive end William Hayes. “I wasn’t expecting that at all but it was pretty clever. I don’t care what he does as long as he keeps putting that ball in the end zone. He can go to sleep every week.”
October 6, 2015 at 9:03 pm in reply to: multi-media player-fest thread: Gurley, Foles, Bailey, tba #31868
znModeratorNick Foles beats the blitz, stands tall to deliver game-winning touchdown
Nick Wagoner
EARTH CITY, Mo. — A look back at the turning-point play in the St. Louis Rams ‘ 24-22 win against the Arizona Cardinals on Sunday:
The situation: After leading the entire game, the Rams were clinging to a 17-15 lead and in need of a fourth-quarter scoring drive. A field goal would’ve been OK given that their defense had held the Cardinals to five field goals up to that point but a touchdown and an extra point would make for a two-possession game and at least give the defense some room to breathe.
In the third quarter, the Rams offense had showed some signs of life after a dismal first half. With rookie running back Todd Gurley carrying the freight, the Rams had put together a drive for a touchdown pass from quarterback Nick Foles to receiver Stedman Bailey to make it 17-9 midway through the third quarter. From there, the Cardinals had kicked two field goals and though the Rams defense continued to bend, it was fair to wonder if it would break enough to allow a touchdown. A touchdown from the offense would effectively help salt the game away and increase the defense’s slim margin for error.
That brings us to third-and-6 at Arizona’s 12 with 8:23 to go in the game. A misfire or something short of a first down would have led to a field goal and a one possession game.
The play: Earlier in the game, the Rams scored their first touchdown from a similar spot in a similar situation with receiver Tavon Austin on the outside of a bunch formation to the left. This time, they changed the look with two receiver stacks to each side, including Austin on the outside of tight end Jared Cook’s right shoulder. The Cardinals showed blitz pre-snap with six defenders at the line of scrimmage. It was subtle but Foles varied his snap count enough to get the Cardinals to show which defenders were coming up the middle and which was going to drop into coverage.
From there, three things turned this from Foles ending up on his back or rushing an incompletion into the game’s most important play.
1. With six rushers and six blockers, the Rams found a way to pick up the blitz and block it well enough to give Foles time. In the process, it created one-on-one matchups for all four receivers with an additional defender setting up in the middle of the field watching Foles. The best block of the bunch? That would be running back Benny Cunningham, who picked up safety Tony Jefferson shooting through the A gap. Cunningham stopped Jefferson in his tracks and gave Foles a chance to stand firm in the pocket.
2. Because Cunningham was able to pick up that blitz, Foles had time to assess what safety/linebacker Deone Bucannon was doing. Bucannon was the decoy on the blitz, taking a couple of steps toward the line of scrimmage as though he was coming but then dropping into the middle of the field in zone coverage. As Austin ran what was really a simple in route, Foles didn’t have a throwing lane because Bucannon blocked it. But after Cunningham picked up Jefferson, Foles had time to fake the throw to Austin which got Bucannon in the air and cleared a window to throw, which would lead Austin into open space, in this case the end zone.
3. Foles threw a perfect ball, leading Austin away from cornerback Jerraud Powers with a catchable pass in a spot only Austin could catch it. Like on his first touchdown, Austin ran a strong route, getting across Powers’ face and then simply finishing the route with his speed. While it wasn’t an easy catch, Austin made it look that way as he pulled it in for the touchdown past a diving Powers.
The fallout: Austin’s touchdown was his second of the day and the third scoring toss from Foles on the day. None bigger than this one. After Greg Zuerlein booted the extra point, the Rams led 24-15, a two-score advantage in a game that had been nip and tuck for most of the day. As it turned out, the touchdown was absolutely necessary as a tired defense allowed Arizona to score its lone touchdown on its ensuing possession. But because they picked up the blitz and Foles faced the pressure and delivered, the Rams were able to hang on for a much-needed victory
Nick Foles beats the blitz, stands tall to deliver game-winning touchdown
By Nick WagonerEARTH CITY, Mo. — A look back at the turning-point play in the St. Louis Rams ‘ 24-22 win against the Arizona Cardinals on Sunday:
The situation: After leading the entire game, the Rams were clinging to a 17-15 lead and in need of a fourth-quarter scoring drive. A field goal would’ve been OK given that their defense had held the Cardinals to five field goals up to that point but a touchdown and an extra point would make for a two-possession game and at least give the defense some room to breathe.
In the third quarter, the Rams offense had showed some signs of life after a dismal first half. With rookie running back Todd Gurley carrying the freight, the Rams had put together a drive for a touchdown pass from quarterback Nick Foles to receiver Stedman Bailey to make it 17-9 midway through the third quarter. From there, the Cardinals had kicked two field goals and though the Rams defense continued to bend, it was fair to wonder if it would break enough to allow a touchdown. A touchdown from the offense would effectively help salt the game away and increase the defense’s slim margin for error.
That brings us to third-and-6 at Arizona’s 12 with 8:23 to go in the game. A misfire or something short of a first down would have led to a field goal and a one possession game.
The play: Earlier in the game, the Rams scored their first touchdown from a similar spot in a similar situation with receiver Tavon Austin on the outside of a bunch formation to the left. This time, they changed the look with two receiver stacks to each side, including Austin on the outside of tight end Jared Cook’s right shoulder. The Cardinals showed blitz pre-snap with six defenders at the line of scrimmage. It was subtle but Foles varied his snap count enough to get the Cardinals to show which defenders were coming up the middle and which was going to drop into coverage.
From there, three things turned this from Foles ending up on his back or rushing an incompletion into the game’s most important play.
1. With six rushers and six blockers, the Rams found a way to pick up the blitz and block it well enough to give Foles time. In the process, it created one-on-one matchups for all four receivers with an additional defender setting up in the middle of the field watching Foles. The best block of the bunch? That would be running back Benny Cunningham, who picked up safety Tony Jefferson shooting through the A gap. Cunningham stopped Jefferson in his tracks and gave Foles a chance to stand firm in the pocket.
2. Because Cunningham was able to pick up that blitz, Foles had time to assess what safety/linebacker Deone Bucannon was doing. Bucannon was the decoy on the blitz, taking a couple of steps toward the line of scrimmage as though he was coming but then dropping into the middle of the field in zone coverage. As Austin ran what was really a simple in route, Foles didn’t have a throwing lane because Bucannon blocked it. But after Cunningham picked up Jefferson, Foles had time to fake the throw to Austin which got Bucannon in the air and cleared a window to throw, which would lead Austin into open space, in this case the end zone.
3. Foles threw a perfect ball, leading Austin away from cornerback Jerraud Powers with a catchable pass in a spot only Austin could catch it. Like on his first touchdown, Austin ran a strong route, getting across Powers’ face and then simply finishing the route with his speed. While it wasn’t an easy catch, Austin made it look that way as he pulled it in for the touchdown past a diving Powers.
The fallout: Austin’s touchdown was his second of the day and the third scoring toss from Foles on the day. None bigger than this one. After Greg Zuerlein booted the extra point, the Rams led 24-15, a two-score advantage in a game that had been nip and tuck for most of the day. As it turned out, the touchdown was absolutely necessary as a tired defense allowed Arizona to score its lone touchdown on its ensuing possession. But because they picked up the blitz and Foles faced the pressure and delivered, the Rams were able to hang on for a much-needed victory
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