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January 8, 2017 at 2:58 pm in reply to: informal poll–do you think KD/LS & SK can hire the right coach #62784
znModeratorBut, can he find a coach to lead the Rams to the Promised Land? That might be really hard.
I put those types in 2 tiers.
1. They’re always in it. If not this year wait till next. I count guys like Bellichick for that and there’s probably no other one these days.
2. They CAN be in it, it just has to fall right in a given year. John Harbaugh, Payton, Kubiak, McCarthy.
Where to put Tomlin or Carroll? They are a little more “always there” than the 2s I listed. Maybe they are “uber 2s” but not “1s.”
znModeratorMcVay also interviewed with SF. What the SF press has to say about him ought to be of interest to us, too, though.
Sean McVay is 49ers’ most intriguing head-coach candidate
Eric Branch
http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/49ers-most-intriguing-HC-candidate-Sean-McVay-10835854.php
It’s too early to determine a favorite to be the 49ers’ next head coach, but there’s no question about their most intriguing candidate.
He’s younger than five players on their roster and has a close connection to the moribund franchise’s good-old days.
He’s Washington offensive coordinator Sean McVay, 30, the youngest coordinator in the NFL. He is the grandson of former executive John McVay. Sean McVay will interview with the 49ers on Monday in New York, exactly a week after CEO Jed York invoked McVay’s grandfather at a news conference that followed a 2-14 season.The 49ers also went 2-14 in 1978, and hired Bill Walsh, who hired McVay as the director of player personnel. It was the start of McVay’s 21-season tenure, which included each of the 49ers’ five Super Bowl titles and led to his induction into the team’s Hall of Fame in 2013.
“You need to make sure that the right personalities are there,” York said. “We go back to Bill Walsh. Bill Walsh hired John McVay and they worked together and they were a team.”The 49ers, of course, are seeking a head coach and general manager after the awkward arranged marriage between Chip Kelly and Trent Baalke dissolved after less than a calendar year.
The question: Thirty-seven years after his grandfather was part of dramatic about-face, is Sean McVay the head coach to hire as York tries to locate another turnaround tandem?
At first blush, McVay’s age would seem to be a disqualifier.
After whiffing on back-to-back coaches, can York really hand over the rebuilding project to someone 11 years younger than kicker Phil Dawson?
McVay, who will turn 31 on Jan. 24, would be the youngest head coach in the NFL’s modern era, eight months younger than Lane Kiffin was when he joined the Raiders in 2007. Kiffin’s two-season tenure was a failure, and the subsequent hirings of 32-year-olds Raheem Morris (Tampa Bay, 2009) and Josh McDaniels (Denver, 2009) also ended poorly.Still, NFL history also includes plenty of coaches who weren’t much older than McVay when they started Super Bowl-winning careers: John Madden (32), Don Shula (33), Jon Gruden (34), Bill Cowher (34) and Mike Tomlin (34).
McVay’s name might have helped get him in the NFL door, but he has risen through the ranks on merit.
In 2008, McVay was hired by Gruden, a family friend, as the Buccaneers’ assistant wide receivers coach. McVay has spent the past seven seasons with Washington, ascending from assistant tight ends coach (2010), to tight ends coach (2011-13), to offensive coordinator when he was 28 in 2014.If he’s hired by the 49ers, McVay would bring a deep appreciation for the franchise’s storied past.
Growing up in Atlanta, he played catch with Steve Young and Jerry Rice when the 49ers made their then-annual trip there, it was noted in a Sports Illustrated feature in August.The story also described McVay studying, again, the 49ers’ final drive in the 1981 NFC title game.
“People think it’s Joe Montana winning this game,” McVay said. “No, sir. It’s this (run) ‘18-19 Bob!’ Look at all these extra bodies in the backfield. Here’s ‘18-19 Bob’ again.”The game was played Jan. 10, 1982, four years before McVay was born, but, indeed, the 49ers’ 13-play, 89-yard drive that culminated in The Catch included 45 rushing yards and just five completions.
Say this: The kid coach seems to know his stuff.
Interviews: The 49ers conducted their first head-coaching interview with Buffalo interim head coach Anthony Lynn on Wednesday. They are scheduled to interview GM candidates Eliot Wolf and Brian Gutekunst, both Packers executives, in Green Bay on Thursday.[
znModeratorMichael Silver@MikeSilver
I’m told Anthony Lynn made a very positive impression in his Rams interview
znModeratorI remembered it and decided to get this.
All you got was a lousy jpeg?
Now if you had gotten an actual real helmet like the one in your jpeg there, THAT would have been VERY cool.
znModeratorI get that there are different opinions on GW.
But personally, I do regret losing him.
I will give the new guy leeway of course.
znModeratorI’m about to shut off the Steelers game and go hang with my Game of Thrones binge watching family.
I want the Giants to win
The giants are pretty prominent in season 6.
Or, one is, anyway.

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znModeratorShe hasn’t testified to anything yet and this is not directed at posters but at the crybabies who are already wetting themselves. Can’t do any worse than what we have now.
And who are these crybabies you refer to.
znModeratorOkay, ZN. Understood. Will let it go.
I got caught doing edit trickery. I deleted the post you quote there to move it to the end of the thread, so it would be after the post by you that’s previous to the one I’m responding to (posted at 1:47 PM.)
But you responded to it just as I deleted it.
So here it is as intended but now out of sequence.
If that’s confusing I apologize.
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Just a couple of notes.
Referring to routine mod actions as “censorship” is being antagonistic. The onus is on the poster to make it clear they are not attacking another poster. If nothing else say “this is not directed at posters but at….”
And, BT, pushing someone for answers is not productive. It creates a charged atmosphere and personalizes discussion (though obviously it’s not the same as a personal attack.) On a politics board, it is possible (in theory) either that there’s complete miscommunication that won’t be amended by pushing, or the person chooses not to answer, or they think they did answer. So I guess I am just saying, don’t push people in ways they can or do on other boards. Just a suggestion. The idea is we’re here for the long haul and something dropped today can be picked up again later in other ways, so “demanding an answer” (scare quote not real quote) just isn’t productive, really, and can cause sparks.
znModeratorUnless I misunderstand the board rules, it’s not out of bounds to criticize public figures here. That’s what I did. And I speak the truth about them.
It is, however, out of bounds to engage in “name-calling” with fellow posters.
. Post anything you want about public figures and any politicians you disdain. You have here, on multiple occasions. No censorship. The mods only step in when we posters make it personal. If we refrain from that, they tend not to step in.
You are correct.
znModeratorI would respond and in the same vernacular but again I would be accused of name-calling. Enjoy the safe space.
I clip everyone here for calling other posters names. Ask all the participants in this thread.
Going after a political party? It’s silly and empty, and isn’t real discussion, but it’s not the same as attacking a poster.
And…again, this isn’t open to discussion. (Making veiled references to your own inaccurate claims about mods is still discussing it btw.) Just act accordingly, like everyone else usually does, and it’s all fine.
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And move on means move on. Period.
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znModeratorI would respond and in the same vernacular but again I would be accused of name-calling. Enjoy the safe space.
I clip everyone here for calling other posters names. Ask all the participants in this thread.
Going after a political party? It’s silly and empty, and isn’t real discussion, but it’s not the same as attacking a poster.
And…again, this isn’t open to discussion. (Making veiled references to your own inaccurate claims about mods is still discussing it btw.) Just act accordingly, like everyone else usually does, and it’s all fine.
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znModeratorAlgebra and Trigometry and Calculus
Oh my
znModeratorIt’s like if the Rams had this wide receiver, who was really excellent, caught everything thrown his way, until one day . . . . he drops one.. . . fans go crazy, spread it through social media, and they get so whipped up into a frenzy, they burn the guy’s house down and he flees for his life.
Ah…so, you noticed.
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znModeratorRams cast wide net in coaching search
VINCENT BONSIGNORE
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/coach-740553-coordinator-rams.html
As the Rams criss-crossed the country this week searching for their new head coach, two things became abundantly clear.
As evidenced by the 11 candidates they’ll sit down with by the end of the first week they can interview current NFL assistants, they are casting as wide a net as possible to find their coach.
That’s a bit of a change from their last head coaching search five years ago when they immediately zeroed in on Jeff Fisher and then waited out his decision.
That doesn’t mean they don’t already have a preference on who they ultimately want as their next head coach, but they are clearly deepening the pool from which they will choose.
Second, they are targeting young, offensive-minded assistants and seem undeterred by age or even volume of years as a coordinator or play caller. Previous head coaching experience clearly isn’t a prerequisite.
Just look at who they are targeting.
Washington offensive coordinator Sean McVay, who interviewed on Thursday, is 30 years old and just completed his second year as an offensive coordinator. Anthony Lynn, who the Rams will talk to Sunday , was elevated from running backs coach to offensive coordinator to interim head coach of the Bills over the past five months. Harold Goodwin, who the Rams interviewed Thursday, has been the Arizona Cardinals offensive coordinator the past four seasons but doesn’t call plays.
Meanwhile, the perceived two top candidates are both young offensive coordinators with backgrounds as assistants.
Say what you want about Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels and how his success is solely tied into working with Tom Brady, but if you believe Brady, his coordinator has been a genuine asset in his continued dominance. And that’s worth something, even with McDaniel’s face plant during his two years as the head coach of the Denver Broncos.
Lastly, Falcons offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan has built top-10 offenses in three different stops with three vastly different quarterbacks, having overseen productive attacks in Houston with Matt Schaub, Washington with Robert Griffin III and now Atlanta with Matt Ryan.
The Rams will conclude their first round of interviews by week’s end with sitdowns with McDaniel and Shanahan during the Patriots’ and Falcons’ playoff bye weeks. And that will conclude a six-day search that leaned decidedly toward youth, fresh ideas and offense.
That doesn’t mean one of the defensive coordinator candidates such as New England’s Matt Patricia or Carolina’s Steve Wilks won’t bubble to the top of the wish list.
But for now it seems clear the focus is on bringing in a new leader who will address their two biggest objectives: Fixing an offense that’s plummeted to the bottom of NFL rankings and creating an imaginative culture best suited to develop rookie quarterback Jared Goff and get second-year running back Todd Gurley back on track.
And while X’s and O’s are important, so too is an eye for talent, creating an environment of discipline and accountability and nurturing a culture that breeds winning.
In other words, everything that seemed to be missing under the previous regime.
Fisher came to the Rams after producing just two winning teams over his last seven years with the Tennessee Titans and was never able to cultivate a culture in which losing was overtly rejected.
His offensive personnel decisions came under question by the end of his tenure as linemen and wide receivers drafted with premium picks never developed as expected or were outright busts. As for the assistants he surrounded himself with – especially on offense – imagination and vision all seemed to be lacking, and players didn’t progress,
And while he created an enjoyable working environment, his laid-back nature wasn’t conducive to discipline or accountability. In the weeks after his firing, many former players pointed to those two factors as areas of improvement like to see in the next head coach.
The Rams will presumably have met face to face with that coach by the end of Sunday night.
The question is, are they any closer to figuring out who that coach is today than when the process clicked into high gear six days ago?
That’s difficult to answer, as it’s also dependent on who is interested in them as well.
Reports surfaced on Saturday indicating Shanahan prefers the Denver Broncos job, which opened last week when Gary Kubiak abruptly retired. That makes sense considering Shanahan’s connection to Denver, where his father, Mike, won two Super Bowl titles and was extremely close with quarterback John Elway.
Elway now runs the Broncos football operations, and met for four hours with Shanahan on Saturday.
As for McDaniels, there are hot and cold feelings about him. On the one hand he’s been instrumental in the success of Brady, but he was also two-year failure as the Broncos head coach. McDaniels has told people he’s a changed coach since the Broncos experience, but some scars take longer to heal than others. Also, there are reports surfacing he might be a package deal with Louis Riddick, with McDaniels the head coach and Riddick his general manager.
While the Rams appear open to moving on from current general manager Les Snead to accommodate a new coach’s wishes, would they be satisfied with a McDaniels/Riddick pairing and does that package work better in San Francisco, where the 49ers are searching for a new coach and general manager?
A name to keep an eye on, then, is McVay, who made a strong impression during his interview on Thursday.
Current and former players under McVay rave about his detail, imagination, teaching and play calling even after just two years as a coordinator. And Washington quarterback Kirk Cousins has developed into an upper-echelon quarterback working with McVay.
While his age might be an issue for some teams, that doesn’t appear top be a problem for the Rams.
But then, by casting such a wide net it’s tough to get a read yet on who the Rams are ready rule in or out.
znModeratorI think it’s a pretty safe bet that they aren’t responsible for the weather
Ah. An innocent.
That’s right you just keep believing that.
znModeratorAnd Waffle generated excellence this year how?
I would say, getting the most out of a DL that had no ends.
Wauffle is just not to be dismissed. He’s the real deal and respected in the league for a reason.
znModeratorThey're sitting down with 11 candidates this week, tough to say. But keep an eye on Sean McVay. https://t.co/SPvq19k5AP
— Vincent Bonsignore (@DailyNewsVinny) January 8, 2017
Very highly regarded and not just by the #Rams (who were absolutely impressed) https://t.co/3E4qHeTutW
— Vincent Bonsignore (@DailyNewsVinny) January 8, 2017
znModeratoroff the net from laram
none of us have an opportunity to personally interview guys, so we go with the information available.
But that aside, we do have some additional information about Kyle Shanahan’s leadership/people skills. I’ve shared this privately, I guess I’ll share it here.
This is directly from Jessie Tuggle in his own words.
Bulldog, intense. a teacher on the practice field and is tough & meticulous on execution. makes them run the plays over and over until executed the way it was drawn up. involved in all parts of the offense, very hands on, line blocking schemes, inside outside leverage technigues. Done a tremendous job working with backs on reading blocks and where the cutback lanes will be. Involved in every aspect of the multiples of the offense and really hard on Matty.on his footwork and keeping a strong base. Historically Matty would have late seaosn collapses, he presses and loses the tenets of the offense. Kyle has stayed on him about staying with teh teachings of the position.. Demands the receivers run crisp routes and being where they suppose to be funny you ask about him now. Gab on the 64yd, practiced that play multiple times against 2 high. Saw a tendency with mike bite heavy on play action. Would hate to see him go, but if you get him you got a good one.
znModeratorShe hasn’t testified to anything yet and the crybabies are already wetting themselves
Guess whether or not that kind of antagonistic language is permitted according to board rules.
If you want to slug it out in name-call fests, there are boards for that.
And again, as in all mod declarations to move on, just move on. No arguing about it.
znModeratorRams doing their homework on Sean McVay
Mike Florio
Rams doing their homework on Sean McVay
The Rams are currently ruling out no head-coaching candidates. Eventually, they could be hiring the youngest guy on the list.
Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Rams are spending a lot of time doing their homework on Washington offensive coordinator Sean McVay. The 30-year-old has generated plenty of buzz, and his work with Kirk Cousins apparently has prompted folks in L.A. to believe that McVay could get the most out of 2016 No. 1 overall pick Jared Goff.
The interest in McVay meshes with recent comments from Rams COO Kevin Demoff, who said that the search is focusing on current NFL assistant coaches. The other candidates are Rams special-teams coordinator/interim head coach John Fassel, Cardinals offensive coordinator Harold Goodwin, Dolphins defensive coordinator Vance Joseph, Bills offensive coordinator/interim head coach Anthony Lynn, Panthers defensive coordinator Sean McDermott, Patriots defensive coordinator Matt Patricia, Falcons offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, Panthers assistant head coach Steve Wilks, Jaguars offensive line coach/interim head coach Doug Marrone.
At this point, it’s unlikely that the Rams will make a run at former Raiders and Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden or Saints coach Sean Payton. Both had been linked to the Rams earlier in the process.
znModeratorI am originally from Manitoba and coastal New England weather is not as bad as there, by a longshot.
Heck Chicago was worse than here when I lived there. Also by a longshot.
I like coastal NE. I like winter. I am never bothered by snow.
When I lived in good ole “72 degrees every day” San Diego, got so I was sick of it. I need seasons.
I’m with T.
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znModeratorThe countries with the highest achieving students get a secular education too.
Exactly.
znModeratorMaybe I’m drinking the Kool-aid down here in Tri-State. I do listen to WFAN from NYC whenever I’m out and about and there is a lot of faith in Spags and the thought that Eli can do what he has done before in Green Bay.
Personally, I’d like to see the Giants win because I think they are the only team in the NFC that can beat the Cowboys and, dare I say it, the Pats.
I don’t disagree.
May it be done.
znModeratorstupid electricity was off last night. I just had to say that.
Our electric goes out relatively a lot.
In winter, thank goodness for woodstoves.
znModeratorPittsburg over Miami
Raiders over Texans
Giants over Packers
Seahawks over LionsI’ll watch the games, but not with much emotion.
Let’s go, NY Rangers…
Giants over Packers is an interesting pick.
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znModeratorIt is going to be interesting to see what happens next in this country, after the rural and working classes realize that they are getting shafted even harder by Trump and an all-Republican government. I suppose a great deal will depend on whether the reins of the Democrat party stay where they are, or are taken over by progressives.
Or if the old populist scapegoats become dominant in people’s minds.
Immigration, race, fear of another nation, demonization of “wrong thinking” conspiratorial enemies within.
znModeratori like wade phillips as the new dc.
But he’s a 3/4 guy. Rams really don’t have 3/4 personnel.
January 7, 2017 at 10:36 am in reply to: get rid of the idea that Russian hack stories are about disgruntled dems #62533
znModeratorPutin Ordered ‘Influence Campaign’ Aimed at U.S. Election, Report Says
DAVID E. SANGERJAN
link: http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/06/us/politics/russia-hack-report.html
WASHINGTON — American intelligence officials have concluded that the president of Russia, Vladimir V. Putin, personally “ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election,” and turned from seeking to “denigrate” Hillary Clinton to developing “a clear preference for President-elect Trump.”
The conclusions were part of a declassified intelligence report, ordered by President Obama, that was released on Friday. Its main determinations were described to Mr. Trump by the nation’s top intelligence officials earlier in the day, and he responded by acknowledging, for the first time, that Russia had sought to hack into the Democratic National Committee’s computer systems. But he insisted that the effort had no effect on the election, and he said nothing about the conclusion that Mr. Putin, at some point last year, decided to aid his candidacy.
The report, a damning and surprisingly detailed account of Russia’s efforts to undermine the American electoral system and Mrs. Clinton in particular, went on to assess that Mr. Putin had “aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him.”
The Office of the Director of National Intelligence released on Friday a report that detailed what it called a Russian campaign to influence the election. The report is the unclassified summary of a highly sensitive assessment from American intelligence and law enforcement agencies.
The report described a broad campaign that included covert operations, including cyberactivities and “trolling” on the internet of people who were viewed as opponents of Russia’s effort. While it accused Russian intelligence agencies of obtaining and maintaining “access to elements of multiple U.S. state or local electoral boards,” it concluded — as officials have publicly — that there was no evidence of tampering with the tallying of the vote on Nov. 8.
But the declassified report contained no information about how the agencies had collected their data or had come to their conclusions. So it is bound to be attacked by skeptics and by partisans of Mr. Trump, who see the review as a political effort to impugn the legitimacy of his election. Intelligence officials have rejected that view.
The report, reflecting the assessments of the C.I.A., the F.B.I. and the National Security Agency, stopped short of backing up Mr. Trump on his declaration that the hacking activity had no effect on the election. “We did not make an assessment of the impact that Russian activities had on the outcome of the 2016 election,” the report concluded, saying it was beyond its responsibility to analyze American “political processes” or public opinion.
The intelligence agencies also concluded “with high confidence” that Russia’s main military intelligence unit, the G.R.U., created a “persona” called Guccifer 2.0 and a website, DCLeaks.com, to release the emails of the Democratic National Committee and of the chairman of the Clinton campaign, John D. Podesta.
When those disclosures received what was seen as insufficient attention, the report said, the G.R.U. “relayed material it acquired from the D.N.C. and senior Democratic officials to WikiLeaks.” The founder of WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, has denied that Russia was the source of the emails it published.
The report makes clear that Mr. Putin favored Mr. Trump in part because he had previous success dealing with “Western political leaders whose business interests made them more disposed to deal with Russia” — it named a former Italian prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, as an example — and in part because he viewed Mr. Trump as a more likely ally in forming Russia’s version of a counterterrorism coalition against the Islamic State. Mr. Trump described his eagerness to do so in an interview with The New York Times in March 2016.
The report also stated that Russia collected data “on some Republican-affiliated targets,” but did not disclose the contents of whatever it harvested.
The report’s introduction called the public document a summation of “a highly classified assessment.” The classified version, officials say, comes in two forms — one for Congress and another, called a “compartmentalized” report, for select members of Congress and top officials of the incoming and outgoing governments.
The compartmentalized version contains information on the sources and methods used to collect the information about Mr. Putin and his associates. Those would include intercepts of conversations and the harvesting of computer data from “implants” that the United States and its allies have put in Russian networks.
The conclusions were described to Mr. Obama on Thursday and to Mr. Trump on Friday by James R. Clapper Jr., the director of national intelligence; John O. Brennan, the director of the C.I.A.; Adm. Michael S. Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency; and James B. Comey, the director of the F.B.I.
The key to the report’s assessment is that Russia’s motives “evolved over the course of the campaign.” When it appeared that Mrs. Clinton was more likely to win, it concluded, the Russian effort focused “on undermining her future presidency.” It noted that Mr. Putin had a particular animus for Mrs. Clinton because he believed she had incited protests against him in 2011.
Yet the attacks, the report said, began long before anyone could have known that Mr. Trump, considered a dark horse, would win the Republican nomination. It said the attacks began as early as July 2015, when Russian intelligence operatives first gained access to the Democratic National Committee’s networks. Russia maintained that access for 11 months, until “at least June 2016,” the report concludes, leaving open the possibility that Russian cyberattackers may have had access even after the firm CrowdStrike believed that it had kicked them off the networks.
Intelligence officials who prepared the classified report on Russian hacking activity have concluded that British intelligence was among the first to raise an alarm that Moscow had hacked into the Democratic National Committee’s computer servers, and alerted their American counterparts, according to two people familiar with the conclusions.
Mr. Trump was briefed by senior intelligence officials for nearly two hours on Friday, describing the briefing in a statement as “a constructive meeting and conversation with the leaders of the intelligence community.”
It is unclear whether they highlighted the British role, which has been closely held, in the briefing. But it is a critical part of the timeline, because it suggests that some of the first tipoffs, in fall 2015, came from voice intercepts, computer traffic or human sources outside the United States, as emails and other data from the D.N.C. flowed out of the country.
“The British picked it up, and we may have had it at about the same time,” said one cyberexpert who has been briefed on the findings. British intelligence — especially the signals intelligence unit, GCHQ — has a major role in tracking Russian activity.
January 6, 2017 at 7:09 pm in reply to: When can we conclude that dark matter does not exist? #62524
znModeratorAs I cover more and more ground without finding a flea then it becomes more and more likely that a flea isn’t present.
Unless they’re just following around behind you while you search.
znModeratorHey jm
fixed yer post!
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