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Alyoshamucci

So my attachment to Carden seems to have saturated the board. And as it has not abated even after an obviously lackluster senior bowl and combine showing, I should remind everyone why I am still enamored so that if one were to think me insane, they would at least have accurate foundation to do so.

I changed my criteria for QBs this year. I did this after bombing on some prospects and missing others completely.

I moved to a more psychological approach. A QB had to have four checked boxes before I could grade him. For a reminder, here are the four.

1) Makes throws into tight coverage.
2) Makes throws with garbage at his feet and moving around in a tight pocket.
3) Makes throws after being hit hard multiple times.
4. Makes throws after having a bad INT early in the game.

These are besides the Obvious “Gets to his 3rd read” and “Can bring his team from behind”.

Carden did these things week in and week out. He trusted his receivers. He worked himself out of trouble. He simply plays ten times as well as he “exhibitions”.

So we have a QB who looks like he’s going to be taken in the 5th or 6th round. He’s a gamer and a gunslinger. He doesn’t have the best arm.

He looks to be following the career path of Tony Romo.

So yes. He has fallen out of favor, and will continue to do so because this is not his strong suit.

But getting Carden in the sixth would be huge because he is still my 3rd best QB in the draft.

So this is my official “I’m going out on a limb” status.

Thoughts and comments appreciated.

zn wrote:

Like for example i thot it was interesting when
you suggested that Barksdale played better when
he had a solid Healthy player next to him…

To be fair, and in the interests of painstakingly overbearing exactitude, I was actually saying it’s hard for one healthy vet to play well on a line where the other 4 have problems. It wasn’t a “next to 1 guy” thing.

Though the fact that he was next to Joseph probably wasn’t a big help.

It’s the idea that the OL is a unit, and if the rest of the unit decays, it’s hard for one guy to remain effective. I mean, when a line has 2 injured starters playing and a green as Auburn grass rookie LOT, then, they shift everything they do, there’s less effectiveness all the way around, they move the help to assist other guys, and so on…he’s more exposed.

I know we’ve had this “4 guys v. next to 1″ knockdown death match before. But I can’t help it. Come at me with that kind of hostile board war stuff, and I have no choice but to go nuclear.

Well I think a Right Tackle
should be able to Elevate
the other four.

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zn wrote:

I am heavily on record (so to speak)as believing that attributing a W/L record to the qb is bogus. So I am on record about records.

You can use the record to say SOME things about a qb. Like, in the last coule of years the Packers won more with Rodgers than without him.

That just means you need a good qb, not that the record goes entirely to the qb.

In fact, I don’t believe records of themselves say anything. They’re questions to be answered, not answers in themselves. Like 2007, they went 3-13 after a promising emergence at the end of 2006. So–why the 3-13 record? We might all answer that differently…I would say Linehan was not a head coach and was in over his head, the defense struggled, and the OL got massacred by extensive injuries which meant the offense was going to be far less effective than it looked at the end of 2006.

Anyway. A team record is not a qb stat. We’ve all seen examples of teams winning with average at best qbs (2010 Jets), and we’ve all seen good qbs get buried on bad teams (2014 Saints).

Yeah, its complexicated trying to figure
out accurate things to say about individual parts
of a “Team.”

Like for example i thot it was interesting when
you suggested that Barksdale played better when
he had a solid Healthy player next to him…

As far as Bradfore-Evaluators, they’d have
better arguments if they could somehow “isolate”
his core-traits that they notice by watching
him carefully. And that takes a good eye, and
lots of experience, etc.

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v

• This reply was modified 11 years, 5 months ago by wv.

Dak wrote:

I don’t remember “dynamic” as part of his draft profile.

Well, apparently you do not subscribe
to the illustrious “Mackeyser’s NFL Draft Guide”

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v

HighPlainsDrifter wrote:

I don’t think so. I think that is one of their biggest downfalls. We always talk about how the Rams commit the same mistakes over and over again, but there isn’t anyone in the huddle to hold their feet to the fire. There is no one in the locker room willing to assume the alpha position. They need it desperately. But I don’t see it one the horizon. Maybe Aaron Donald will be that guy. But, honestly, I don’t see that role being filled any time soon.

Agreed.

I was ‘really‘ impressed with the Seahawks
and Patriots. The leadership, the guts, the professionalism,
the intelligence, the poise….Man.

I know the Rams can get to the “bengals-level” next
year. Ie., playoffs — but can they get to the
Seahawks/Patriots level?

One could argue they are close, as evidenced by the
wins over the Seahawks, but then those wins
are always followed by losses. And more losses.

I dunno. We’ll see.

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