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Conversation about Wilson reminds me a bit
of the conversations about Joe Montana over
the years. Montana was surrounded by an allstar
cast, and he didnt have the big arm,
but he was clutch, and tough and smart, etc.
Was he as pure a passer as Marino or Bert Jones
or the stud-athletes? Nah.But he was Montana. And R.Wilson is R.Wilson.
…yeah, i dunno what that means either đIf i were starting a team, i would take
a Luck over Wilson. And i would take a young
A.Rogers over Wilson. After that it gets murky.w
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Laram2 of the INT’s came off of perfect passes that receivers muffed so you can’t just look at the numbers.
If I were starting a team today, it would begin with Russell Wilson.
Aaron Rodgers is the best most gifted passer in the NFL, but Wilson is the best clutch player in the game.
He’s a winner. You can always count on him to make the play(s) to win the game.
People that want to claim that he’s a product of his defense haven’t paid attention.
Go back to the NFC Championship game against the Whiners. Hags don’t make it w/o his clutch throws in the 4th qtr.
The dude is money, and has been throughout his brief career..
I don’t care if you win it with Showtime or you win it with the triangle.
To coin a phrase…just win baby. And Russell Wilson wins!!
It should be longer since the Pats should have been banned from the SB for cheating, but /sigh..whatever.
Now would you really want to see a Colts vs Seahawks title game?
It would be 45 to 6.
No, its better to have the two vilest teams
in the league going at it. Its like Predator vs Freddy Krueger
or Triple H versus The Iron Sheik or somethin.w
vAlso, i disagree with those that think âcheating is cheating
whether it helps the Pats or not.â
I think there is a significant difference between âcheating
that helpsâ and âcheating that doesntâ. Its like one
is a traffic violation, and one is a Felony. Kinda.Well, youâre coming at this like a lawyer, I guess. But, I have no idea how you can think that New England, or anyone, would cheat without expecting an advantage. Why cheat, if you donât expect an advantage? With the Patriots, you really have no idea how much of what they do would help or hurt, anyway. You just donât. Itâs up to interpretation. Hell, the NFL had no idea whether bounty gate helped or hurt the Saints, either, or whether it was responsible for hurting other players. But, a clear line was crossed. Once you cross that line, youâre in violation. How much or whether you affected the outcome of the play is difficult to quantify. But, thereâs a reason those lines were drawn in the first place.
And, you canât help but think if indeed the Patriots did this once, maybe theyâve been do it all along, for years.
But, Iâll wait to see what the NFL says officially. Should be interesting.
Well I am still a-thinkin-on-it. So far, I’m not persuaded it was a ‘big deal.’
Probably partly because I am old đ And back in the olden days, coaches and players
did all kinds of stuff that would be called “cheating” by today’s fans. George Allen
was accused of putting spies in trees by Tom Landry, for example.
I can just imagine what John Madden’s Raiders did to the opponents
balls đI just dont have enuff information yet. Not enuff context.
For example what if some players come out and say “oh hell lots of
coaches deflate balls. Its happened a gazillion times over the years.
We all just laugh about it.”w
vI donât think we know WHO played with the deflated balls yet and what the advantage was. Assuming a better grip in shitty conditions. What if Brady got this advantage but Luck didnât? Just cause they were not caught cheating post spygate doesnât mean they didnât. They have a history. TAINTED. I donât know how many SB they would have won if they had not cheated. Nobody does. Shame because maybe they are great or maybe they won only because they cheated.
We donât know.
TAINTED.
Yeah, i got no problem with “we dont know” and perhaps “tainted.”
But thats not the same as “Light the Torches
and burn them in the Iron Maiden.”Also, i disagree with those that think “cheating is cheating
whether it helps the Pats or not.”
I think there is a significant difference between “cheating
that helps” and “cheating that doesnt”. Its like one
is a traffic violation, and one is a Felony. Kinda.I’m amazed, btw, that the Refs dont weigh all the balls
and check on that stuff before and during the game.
I’m sure the NFL will NOW make some changes.I’m having a little trouble believing that that
total butt-whipping the Pats gave the idiot-Colts
was because of “deflated footballs.” I’m
having trouble buying that. Nobody needs
to cheat to beat the Colts in the playoffs.w
vMac or ZN do me a favor and delete my quote response to 21 Dog here is a much better response.
You know, Mr. Steinberg didnât have to show up on Sunday. Iâm sure he has a very full schedule and he lives far away from the Coliseum. I think he is earnest and sincere in his fandom for the Rams and his support of the movement to bring the Rams back to LA. When I saw him walk up to the group on Sunday morning he was by himself and may have driven himself there. I just want to thank Lee Steinberg for lending his support to our cause.
Grits
I was gonna stay out of this, and i will after this one post, but —
that was much better Grits.The thing is, sometimes a post can come across as “gloating.”
There’s a difference between “celebrating” in the endzone and “gloating”
in the endzone. Its a fine line, though.
Those of us that dont live in LA or St.Louis dont want these threads
to start hurting the feelings of whichever town loses out in this
Billionaire’s Game of Money-making.So, its all kinda tricky. How can the ‘winning’ fans post
without “gloating” ? How can the “losing” fans post
without “bitterness” ? Tricky, aint it.feel free to delete this post if it
causes harm to kittens or contributes
to global warmingw
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