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January 20, 2015 at 9:24 pm in reply to: Why your team's hunt for an offensive coordinator isn't going so well #16969
wvParticipantEnh. To me, that reads a lot like the articles that
say this is a weak QB class. Well, who the hell
knows if its a weak QB class? And who the hell
knows how many great OC’s are out there
just waiting for a chance.w
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wvParticipantCusamono(sp?) said (to JT) he’s heard the Rams are
interested in the QB, Mannion, at the Senior bowl.w
vJanuary 20, 2015 at 6:39 pm in reply to: CBS Sports 920AM – Jim Thomas 1-20-15 – Podcast: Senior Bowl, Stadium, OCs #16960
wvParticipantJT says he doesn’t know if the Rams have “even had a single interview”
for any of the OC candidates.Also said he’s heard GB might try and block
any talking with Van Pelt. Van Pelt
considered very valuable in GB.w
vJanuary 20, 2015 at 6:30 pm in reply to: Alex Van Pelt or Chudzinski for OC? Rams ask permission to speak to both. #16957
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RambillAdam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Ravens hired former Bears HC Marc Trestman as OC, per source.
================================Rambill
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
The Jags are hiring Greg Olson to be their offensive coordinator. The market is thinning out of the best candidatesSo far today we have Marrone, Olson and Trestman securing new gigs. Adam Gase among those still available
=========================Laram – on Olson
He did some very nice things taking over for Linny when he was here.
He showed better patience and balance, and IMO THAT was one of the best Rams offenses in many years.
Less error prone and more of what I wished the GSOE would have been.
People love that offense for the sizzle, but I would take the 2006 offense if I wanted to win championships.
Wish him well.
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wvParticipantCheaters prosper BIG TIME in Goodell’s NFL ………..
New England Playoff record during spy gate:
14 wins
3 losses
3-0 in Super Bowls
.824%Post Spy Gate
4 Wins
5 losses
0-2 in Super Bowls (0-3 if you count loss to 85 Bears)
444%Pete Carroll is not free on this either….. Cheated big time in USC, left program in shambles, USC football BANNED from bowl games for 2 years, forfeit last 2 games of 2004 season.
2014 team leaders in penalties in the NFL….
Seattle # 1
New England # 2.Bending and breaking the rules pays big time in the NFL.
I am not pro QB, but anyone can throw a slightly deflated ball with more zip and farther downfield than one inflated to 13 lbs of air.
Well, i dunno. The post spygate team went 16-0. And came within a miracle throw/catch
of going 19-0 and beating the Giants to win it all.I just cant minimize that kind of excellence.
I do enjoy loathing them, though.
But i cant dismiss them as ‘cheaters.’w
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wvParticipantDoesn’t surprise me the Rams are 40 to 1.
In fact, i think a lot of folks will see them
as an intriguing dark-horse to go deep in the playoffs
next year. The OLine is fixable, barring injuries,
and so it all comes down to Bradford’s knees.
If they hold up — Rams can beat anybody.w
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Flipper336 – guys not getting enough hype..yet
Need more time on all players but these are quick analysis and rough draft grades in the (-)
QUARTERBACKS
(4) Jameill Showers, UTEP
– smooth footwork , good release, doesn’t panic, plays from the pocket but can run. Doesn’t have a cannon
WIDE RECEIVERS
(2) Jamison Crowder, Duke
– great quickness and balance. Tracks the deep ball well. Scary after the catch. Punt returner.
(3) Dezmin Lewis, Central Arkansas
– Long but still can sink into his breaks. Uses his length catching the ball (snatches passes, doesn’t wait for them). Good burst to eat cushion and second gear when he hits his stride. Works CBs (not just a straight line height/speed guy)
(4) Tre McBride, William & Mary
– Physical, sharp in his routes
RUNNINGBACKS
(2) David Johnson, Northern Iowa
– better than most WR prospects as a route runner. Great hands. Could hit the hole quicker. A bit of Le’Veon Bell in that he doesn’t realize his size so he might be better just losing 10 pounds and being who he is.
TIGHT ENDS
(2) Jean Sifrin, UMass
– Big and long. Snatches passes and knows how to body defenders. Uses his full length catching passes (actual catch radius)
(2) Jesse James, Penn State
– a tad stiff and not a deep threat but not many weaknesses otherwise
OFFENSIVE TACKLES
(Top 10) T.J. Clemmings, Pitt
– A physical monster with great movement and bend. Not as raw as his experience would suggest he should be
GUARDS
(1/2) Arie Kouandijo, Alabama
– Not a great lateral mover but nasty second level blocker going forward. Almost always technically sound in his blocking. Great quickness and good power
(1/2) Jarvis Harrison, Texas A&M
– Powerful, strong punch, keeps his hips under him and plays under control
SAFETIES
(1) Clayton Geathers, UCF
– heat seeking missile, good angles. Times plays on the ball really well
(2) Jeremy Cash, Duke
– hyper active huge energy player. Can really sell false coverages. Good blitzer
(3) Julius White, Rice
CORNERBACKS
(1+) Eric Rowe, Utah +S
– long but still really quick change of direction. Sticks his guy but has safety awareness around him
(1) Jalen Collins, LSU
– long. Needs some refinement but upside is true shutdown guy
(1/2) Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest
-Long (see a theme) with great movement skills and instincts
(3) Donald Caliscar, Western Michigan
MIDDLE/INSIDE LINEBACKERS
(2) Taiwan Jones, Michigan State
– instincts…nuff said
OUTSIDE LINEBACKERS
(3) Tank Jakes, Memphis
-undersized but has the rest
INTERIOR DEFENSIVE LINEMAN
( Top 10)Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma
– Just a monster that doesn’t know his own strength. Plays a bit out of control because he is so powerful and loses contain. Will be labeled a nose (huge waste of his potential) because of size but has 3tech quickness. A true freak
January 20, 2015 at 12:54 pm in reply to: FRR- PFT: Browns interviewed Mike Martz for OC position #16936
wvParticipantThe Browns have no QB, and one good receiver. And they’re probably gonna dump him.
Even Martz in his prime couldn’t help them.
Well, i dunno. I keep thinking of Mike Furrey.
Martz turned him into Paul Warfield.w
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wvParticipantCheaters prosper. Not exactly news.
Well, my own view is,
yes, they cheated, and that asterisk
will always follow them now.But, I suspect cheating in various ways
has a long, long history among lots of coaches
in the NFL.
And,
The Pats, aside from the cheating, have been
the smartest, organization in the NFL.
Belichex is the best coach in the NFL.
He just is.w
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wvParticipantHow do you go about investigating a claim like that?
Too late to investigate the balls. So…you just ask them if they cheated or not?Seems to me, the problem was
the Colts were Deflated.I blame Belichex for that,
btw.The Seahawks are too inflated
to be deflated easily, i figure,
though.w
vJanuary 20, 2015 at 9:42 am in reply to: FRR- PFT: Browns interviewed Mike Martz for OC position #16920
wvParticipantMartz and Manziel —
Together?I’d give it two weeks.
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wvParticipantThat is amazing. Best franchise in sports. Unfortunately. I will enjoy them losing the Super Bowl to the Seahawks oh so much.
It really is an intriguing match-up.
Best two Organizations in the NFL.
I’ll be curious to see how Brady/Belichex
attack the Seahawks D. And what will
Belichex decide to take away from the Seahawks O?
— Lynch or Wilson ?w
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wvParticipantIs that some sort of West Va. lawyer talk?
As much as i hate to say it,
the Two best teams made the Super Bowl.Its an intriguing matchup.
Have those two teams played recently?
I have no inkling of which team will win.
If it was in Seattle, I’d say Seattle.
If it was in New England, I’d say New England.w
vJanuary 19, 2015 at 11:27 am in reply to: Alex Van Pelt or Chudzinski for OC? Rams ask permission to speak to both. #16866
wvParticipantChudzinski is linked to Norv Turner in this article,
so i guess he runs the Coryell Offense.
http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/blog/index.ssf/2013/01/rob_chudzinskis_flexibility_ex.htmlJanuary 19, 2015 at 11:18 am in reply to: Alex Van Pelt or Chudzinski for OC? Rams ask permission to speak to both. #16864
wvParticipantLaram is very high on Chudzinski.
Not sure why.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Chudzinski
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January 19, 2015 at 9:55 am in reply to: Seattle doing nothing so far (he said in the 1st half) #16857
wvParticipantWell, lost in all the crazy-zany plays,
and what-ifs, there was
M.Lynch, with his 157 yards,
and the Seattle Defense, at home,
which kept GBay playing conservative.w
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wvParticipantThere’s one iron-clad immutable rule in pro football.
It was etched in stone eons ago:“Verily, Never take the Bengals or Colts seriously
come playoff time.”w
vJanuary 18, 2015 at 1:55 pm in reply to: relocation: Former Raiders CEO Amy Trask Talks Kroenke, Rams' Future & Stadium #16804
wvParticipantDunno if this one has been posted.
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Rams need to follow NFL process to move to L.A.: stadium panel chiefJanuary 15, 2014
http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-stadium-20150117-story.html#page=1Steelers owner Art Rooney II, chairman of the NFL’s stadium committee, had a simple message this week for St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke, who has announced plans to build an 80,000-seat football venue in Inglewood: Not so fast.
“There are still cards to be played,” Rooney told The Times in his first public comments since Kroenke unveiled his vision for a state-of-the-art stadium on the Hollywood Park site. “There’s still a process that has to work its way out, and we don’t know what the outcome’s going to be yet. That’s why we have league committees and approval processes.”
Rooney’s words were measured but his message was clear that the NFL is going to make the decisions on stadiums and relocation.
“I think we’re comfortable that we could stop a team legally from moving if it didn’t go through the process,” Rooney said….see link
wvParticipantI take it for granted that Long is gone, but I don’t expect a lot of FA action with the Rams. I wouldn’t be surprised if they picked up a G or C, but I think I would be surprised if they got both. I think Bradford and Langford are back. I dunno on Wells. Clearly, the Rams don’t think they have anybody as good as a bashed up and mangled Scott Wells, or Wells would have sat last year. So unless they sign a FA there, Wells is back.
If they bring Wells back i will
seriously question their intelligence.w
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wvParticipantIMHO: any one of those 4 would be fine.
Yeah, but you like Old, Injured players
so…there’s that.w
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wvParticipantPFF’s free agent tracker
Guards:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/12/25/2015-free-agents-guards/
Seven guards had overall positive ratings.
Tops were Franklin of Denver and Lupati of SF.Centers:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/12/25/free-agents-2015-centers/
Four Centers have positive season ratings:Hudson, 26, of KC,
Shipley, 29, of Indy,
De le Puente, 30 of Chi,
Montgomery, 32, of DenverJanuary 17, 2015 at 7:30 pm in reply to: relocation: Former Raiders CEO Amy Trask Talks Kroenke, Rams' Future & Stadium #16764
wvParticipantThot this was an interesting paragraph
from an Atlantic article waterfield posted:http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/10/how-the-nfl-fleeces-taxpayers/309448/
October 2013
G Easterbrook“….udith Grant Long, a Harvard University professor of urban planning, calculates that league-wide, 70 percent of the capital cost of NFL stadiums has been provided by taxpayers, not NFL owners. Many cities, counties, and states also pay the stadiums’ ongoing costs, by providing power, sewer services, other infrastructure, and stadium improvements. When ongoing costs are added, Long’s research finds, the Buffalo Bills, Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, Kansas City Chiefs, New Orleans Saints, San Diego Chargers, St. Louis Rams, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and Tennessee Titans have turned a profit on stadium subsidies alone—receiving more money from the public than they needed to build their facilities. Long’s estimates show that just three NFL franchises—the New England Patriots, New York Giants, and New York Jets—have paid three-quarters or more of their stadium capital costs…
———————Also, LA Times article on Kroenke
http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-stadium-stan-kroenke-20150118-story.html#page=1
By Nathan FennoThose who know St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke say his L.A. stadium plan is no bluff; he sees things through
Media-shy billionaire Stan Kroenke prefers to work behind the scenes, but he’s a savvy, decisive businessman.In the mountains high above the Sonoran Desert in Tucson, Ariz., Al Michaels and Stan Kroenke were hiking a tough trail near a health and fitness resort.
Michaels, a longtime sportscaster for NFL games, joked that the steep incline they faced amid the pine trees may as well have been Tucson’s Mt. Everest. He was exhausted and hoped that Kroenke wanted to turn back.
But Kroenke, the billionaire owner of the St. Louis Rams, would not relent.
“I think I reached the point where I didn’t care whether I was alive or died,” Michaels said about that hike. “When Stan sets out to do something, he wants to complete it.”
Rams need to follow NFL process to move to L.A.: stadium panel chief
Rams need to follow NFL process to move to L.A.: stadium panel chiefFive years later, Kroenke is focusing that mind-set on an ambitious plan to build a stadium in Inglewood, which could return the NFL to the Los Angeles area after a two-decade absence. Some see the project as a ploy to get a better stadium deal in St. Louis, that L.A. is being used as leverage once again. Friends and business associates say, however, that once Kroenke decides on a course of action, he is hellbent on finishing.
“He just doesn’t do things on a whim,” Michaels said.
Kroenke, who declined to be interviewed for this story, is a real estate developer whose penchant for privacy draws as much attention as the business dealings that amassed a fortune Forbes estimated at $5.8 billion.
Interviews with numerous current and former business associates describe a man who shuns headlines in favor of working behind the scenes with a restrained, methodical approach that is focused on long-term success.
Most of them believe that the stadium project is typical of the patience Kroenke, 67, used to build his professional sports empire, gain control of millions of square feet in retail space and become the ninth-largest landowner in the U.S., according to The Land Report magazine’s annual rankings.
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8The properties include the 540,000-acre Q Creek Ranch in Wyoming’s Shirley Mountains and Screaming Eagle, the cult winemaker in Oakville, Calif., whose vintages routinely fetch more than $1,000 per bottle.
“He plays his cards real close to the vest,” Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said. “He’s information gathering. He’s listening. He’s observing. He’s evaluating. But then make no mistake about it, there’s nothing quiet about him when he goes.”
The extensive holdings contrast with Kroenke’s modest upbringing. As a youngster, he kept the books and swept floors at the Mora Lumber Company, a lumber yard and hardware store owned by his father in tiny Mora, Mo.
Don’t expect Kroenke to say much about those days or, really, about anything at all. Magazine and newspaper stories over the years repeatedly cast him as “Silent Stan” and “reclusive” and “secretive.”
Stan Kroenke, Roger Goodell
St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke, left, speaks with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell during a break at an NFL owners’ meeting in Washington on Oct. 8, 2013. Kroenke has a reputation for staying out of the spotlight. (Carolyn Kaster / Associated Press)Those who have worked for Kroenke see a demanding boss with no interest in self-aggrandizement.
“He doesn’t like people putting themselves above the team,” said David Ehrlich, former Kroenke Sports Enterprises executive vice president and chief operating officer.
Kroenke’s distaste for attention isn’t new. In a Bloomberg Businessweek story six years ago, he recalled shooting a key free throw during a ninth-grade basketball game in front of a large crowd.
“My knees were knocking,” Kroenke said. “I missed the free throw and was useless the whole tournament.”
He earned a bachelor’s degree and a master’s in business administration at the University of Missouri in Columbia. He met Ann Walton, the daughter of Wal-Mart co-founder Bud Walton, in 1971 while skiing in Aspen, Colo. They married three years later. Forbes calculates Ann Walton Kroenke’s net worth — separate from her husband’s — at $5.6 billion.
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0Stan Kroenke started building his fortune through real estate in the mid-1970s, developing shopping malls and Wal-Marts. A longtime partnership with Missouri developer Raul Walters ended in 1985 with protracted litigation. Michael Staenberg was Kroenke’s partner for two decades in a company they co-founded in 1991 — To Have Fun Realty — that controlled millions of square feet in retail space. That, too, ended in multiple lawsuits.
Staenberg declined to comment because of the ongoing litigation. Walters died in 2009.
Kroenke’s sports ventures haven’t always gone smoothly. In 1993, he emerged from the corporate shadows as a last-minute investor for St. Louis’ bid to land an NFL expansion team. After his presentation to NFL owners and an uneasy news conference, newspaper accounts compared him to the “Droopy Dog” cartoon character, saying that dealing with the media “obviously terrifies him.”
St. Louis Rams perhaps step toward L.A., and that raises questions
St. Louis Rams perhaps step toward L.A., and that raises questions“He came out of nowhere,” longtime friend Bob Stull said. “People were trying to figure out who in the heck he was.”
Kroenke faced another chilly reception in 2007 after he bought a minority stake in the English Premier League’s Arsenal soccer club.
“Call me old-fashioned, but we don’t need Kroenke’s money and we don’t want his sort,” Peter Hill-Wood, then Arsenal’s chairman, said at the time.
Kroenke didn’t respond — he’s not known for losing his temper. Four years later, he became the club’s controlling shareholder. He kept the club’s governing board in place and remained in the background. Last year, Forbes valued Arsenal at $1.3 billion.
Kroenke acquired 40% of the Rams in 1995, the year the team moved to St. Louis from Anaheim. When he became the majority owner in 2010, some in St. Louis feared he would return the franchise to L.A.
“I’m born and raised in Missouri,” Kroenke told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch at the time. His full name — Enos Stanley Kroenke — was inspired by St. Louis Cardinals legends Enos Slaughter and Stan Musial.
“I’ve been a Missourian for 60 years,” Kroenke continued. “People in our state know me. People know I can be trusted. People know I am an honorable guy.”
Kroenke is often described as “regular” and “normal.” Associates say the man with a mustache and tousled hair who wears cowboy boots with his suit doesn’t act like a billionaire.
Ehrlich would discuss business with his boss over bison burgers at My Brother’s Bar in Denver more often than they met in conference rooms.
Kroenke’s competitiveness is legendary among those who know him. When fly-fishing with Paul Andrews, one of his former executives, he tracks who catches what. That attitude extended to games of H-O-R-S-E and pickup basketball on the practice court of the NBA’s Denver Nuggets, one of Kroenke’s teams. The owner sank three-pointers from NBA range with little difficulty.
“He was not joking around,” Ehrlich said. “He was a little bit intense about it . . . and in life.”
When the NHL’s Colorado Avalanche, another of Kroenke’s teams, won the Stanley Cup in 2001, the same intensity seemed to radiate off the owner during games. He didn’t yell. But Ehrlich, sitting nearby, could feel the stress.
Kroenke, a fitness zealot who is particular about his diet, drank from the Stanley Cup after the series win — and took ill for several weeks.
“I think that’s the only time in his life that Stan has been sick,” Michaels said.
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Tax breaks do figure into NFL stadium plan in InglewoodThe Avalanche and Nuggets are just part of Kroenke’s sports kingdom. He owns Pepsi Center, the Denver arena that the teams share with his professional lacrosse franchise, the Colorado Mammoth. He controls the regional sports network that broadcasts their games, along with those of the Colorado Rapids, his Major League Soccer team that plays at his Dick’s Sporting Goods Park in Commerce City, northeast of Denver.
He owns a company that sells tickets for the teams. He owns Altitude Authentics to hawk club apparel.
Kroenke also has a 12,000-square-foot penthouse at Pepsi Center, reachable by private elevator, that includes a theater, gym and unobstructed mountain views.
One reason the L.A. stadium initiative doesn’t surprise many who know him: it’s more than a sports deal, it’s also a real estate play.
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8About 18 months ago, Kroenke met with Terry Fancher, executive managing director of Stockbridge Capital, to discuss adding a football stadium to Fancher’s Hollywood Park development in Inglewood. For one session, Kroenke brought a sandwich in a brown bag for lunch.
Though Kroenke has not committed to moving the Rams to Southern California, this deal has opened a door out of St. Louis. A clause in the team’s 30-year lease for the Edward Jones Dome required that the stadium rank among the top eight in the NFL in several categories after 20 years. St. Louis and the Rams couldn’t agree on improvements and a neutral arbitration panel ruled in favor of the Rams’ $700-million plan in January 2013. St. Louis rejected the plan six months later, which allowed the Rams to convert the lease to year-to-year.
Kroenke’s portfolio in L.A. includes a 9,000-square-foot home off Pacific Coast Highway in Malibu and, in 2012, he was among three finalists to buy the Dodgers.
The first hints of the L.A. plan became public in January 2013, when Kroenke bought 60 acres of vacant land at Hollywood Park from Wal-Mart for an estimated $101 million. At the time, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell dismissed the purchase as a routine transaction.
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0“There are no plans, to my knowledge, of a stadium development,” Goodell said.
Fancher and Kroenke continued to work on a deal to transform the proposed mixed-use project in Inglewood into a hub of sports, retail, offices and entertainment. In late spring, Kroenke engaged HKS Inc., the firm that drew up plans for the billion-dollar AT&T Stadium that houses the Cowboys, to design the stadium.
“This is something that’s going to be in place and in his family long after he’s gone,” said Fancher, who declined to detail terms of the partnership.
Kroenke’s daughter, Whitney, 37, lives in L.A.; his son, Josh, 34, is president of the Nuggets and Avalanche.
That hints at another issue Stan Kroenke faces. NFL rules bar owners from owning professional teams outside their market. He had until last December to transfer ownership of the Avalanche and Nuggets, but the league granted a one-year extension.
Last March, eight months after the initial meeting, Fancher and Kroenke had a handshake agreement to be partners for a privately-financed stadium.
“If he’s going to realize this opportunity, he’s not going to realize it based on emotion and short-term stuff. He looks at this as a long-term investment,” Ehrlich said.
Don Elliman, past president of Kroenke Sports Enterprises, said: “I absolutely guarantee there isn’t a half-cocked bone about it.”
Days after the stadium plans became public earlier this month, St. Louis proposed a new stadium that could cost up to $985 million.
As questions swirl about the next move in L.A., Kroenke’s quiet belies the scope of what’s at stake.
“Other people will have the ultimate say with who goes in the stadium,” Fancher said. “There are lot of things that have to happen that aren’t in Stan’s control or our control. . . . But he’s determined and he’s got the resources to do it.”
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Times staff writer Sam Farmer contributed to this report. Los Angeles Times
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January 17, 2015 at 7:19 pm in reply to: William Hayes: defense has grown and will continue to grow #16762
wvParticipantListen to him talk about Aaron Donald.
Wow.
“…He’s probably ‘the’ best rookie I’ve ever played with,
and i’ve played with some really good football players,
we will be remembering his name fifteen to twenty years from now,
i promise you that. He’s something special. I’ve never seen
anything like him….he’s so unorthodox, strong, uses his hands
better than anybody on this defensive-line. And he has the best
leverage, coz he’s 5’2 🙂 …”w
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wvParticipantSeahawks vs Patriots.
O joy.
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vJanuary 17, 2015 at 1:55 pm in reply to: relocation: Former Raiders CEO Amy Trask Talks Kroenke, Rams' Future & Stadium #16750
wvParticipant<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>wv wrote:</div>
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Winnbrad wrote:</div>
So it seems what Stan needs to do is convince 31 rich white guys, and the Green Bay Packers, that he isn’t a “rogue agent”.24 rich white guys, not 31.
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v23 because he’s already one.
Are you questioning my Algebra?
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wvParticipantI think that he DID build an OL that supported a power running game…
Now if people want to say he should not have relied on the previously injured Jake Long, that’s one thing. And bear in mind I was initially against signing LOng…
To me though they can’t say Wells was a bad signing..
Joseph wasn’t supposed to start.
Rok? So what…
Jones? No one knows yet..
What about Person, Rhaney, Bond, and/or Washington? No one knows yet.Well, they made a big mistake signing Jake Long. I have
no qualms about judging them on that one. He was the
key signing for their OLine Plan. A lot of people
thought he was too big of an injury risk, at the time.Do you think they made ANY mistakes with their OLine plan
so far?w
vJanuary 17, 2015 at 1:47 pm in reply to: relocation: Former Raiders CEO Amy Trask Talks Kroenke, Rams' Future & Stadium #16747
wvParticipanti’ve read that the nfl is not a real big fan of farmer’s field and spanos is unlikely to sell part of his team. in fact aeg i’ve read wants majority ownership. that leads me to believe that kroenke’s in the lead for a move to la. my guess is the nfl is strongly against davis and the raiders moving to los angeles.
If the league approved a Spanos move,
and Spanos had a stadium deal in LA,
what would that do to Kroenke’s leverage
in St.Louis? He’d lose any leverage he had, yes? No?
Would he threaten to move somewhere else? 2nd team in LA ?The league has to love all this leverage its manufactured.
What a great Racket for all 32 rich-white-guys.w
vJanuary 17, 2015 at 1:42 pm in reply to: relocation: Former Raiders CEO Amy Trask Talks Kroenke, Rams' Future & Stadium #16746
wvParticipantSo it seems what Stan needs to do is convince 31 rich white guys, and the Green Bay Packers, that he isn’t a “rogue agent”.
24 rich white guys, not 31.
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vJanuary 17, 2015 at 10:20 am in reply to: relocation: Former Raiders CEO Amy Trask Talks Kroenke, Rams' Future & Stadium #16735
wvParticipantSo I read through all of these posts. I still don’t get it. But it’s early on a Saturday, and I’ve only had one cup of coffee. Help me, please.
Suppose Stan says, “I’m moving to LA”. What can anyone really do about it?
Can the other owners fine him? Stan could just not pay it.
The NFL isn’t gonna kick the Rams out of the league, no matter what their owner does.
So what penalty, that can be enforced, could the league impose on Stan? It would have to be something involving money, because I can’t see any other way of punishing an NFL owner. But what do I know?
There’s financial penalties. The league could sue to enforce them.
So, basically he can move, and pay a fine.
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