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wvParticipantThe defense was such a mess in that first month.
Is there any way ‘that’ could happen again
next year? Doesn’t seem likely.I would think teams are gonna try
to run at A.Donald. Rams need
to be strong up the middle.w
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http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/15668/plays-that-shaped-the-rams-season-no-6-2Plays that shaped the Rams’ season: No. 6
January, 23, 2015EARTH CITY, Mo. — After a 7-9 finish in 2013, the St. Louis Rams entered the 2014 season with postseason visions in their heads. To get there, the Rams figured to have to navigate one of the toughest schedules in the league, which meant getting a win in the season opener at home against the Minnesota Vikings would be pretty much mandatory.
It didn’t happen.
Patterson
After a slow first half in which the Rams went into the locker room trailing 13-0, St. Louis managed a field goal to make it 13-3. Although there were no signs of the offense getting into a rhythm after the loss of quarterback Shaun Hill to a quad injury, the Rams had managed to contain running back Adrian Peterson and were still in the game. Then Vikings receiver Cordarrelle Patterson struck.With 2:08 left in the third quarter and a first-and-10 at their 33, the Vikings lined up with Patterson in the backfield and called a simple crack toss to the right side of the offensive line. Patterson took the toss, bounced off a couple of defenders, and weaved his way through the Rams defense for a 67-yard touchdown.
It was an ominous sign for a run defense that would be gashed so badly and with such regularity in the first five weeks that it ranked near the bottom of the league. Because teams were having such success on the ground, the Rams saw the fewest passes against of any team in the league in that span, part of the reason they set a league record for futility by only posting one sack in the first five games.
The run gave Minnesota a 20-3 lead which ultimately resulted in a 34-6 win that dropped the Rams to 0-1 and left many wondering just how bad the 2014 season would become. The Rams helped offset a loss in a game many thought they should win with upsets against the likes of Denver and Seattle, but the slow start would be too much to overcome.
Making matters worse, the Rams lost defensive end Chris Long for most of the season to an ankle/foot injury against Minnesota, and Hill’s injury led to a game of musical quarterbacks in which Austin Davis took the reins for the next eight starts only to hand them back to Hill for the season’s final seven games.
It was a brutal beginning for what turned into the latest in a long line of disappointing seasons in St. Louis.
January 26, 2015 at 9:11 am in reply to: What American Sniper did is much, much worse than rewrite history #17394
wvParticipantLots of discussion about American Sniper all over
the Net. Generally speaking things breakdown
along the usual political lines. They just do.Ya got tons and tons of rightwing writers saying
“its not political, and even if it is, its accurate”And ya got leftwing writers saying,
“War movies are political, and this one is inaccurate”Everyone seems to agree the cinematography and
“craftsmanship” in the movie are first-rate.The two main views are
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http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/01/22/dirty-harry-goes-to-iraq/
A Cultural Essay
Dirty Harry Goes To Iraq
by JOHN GRANT….Like the Iraq War itself, Eastwood’s movie begins by exploiting a historically inaccurate delusion and, then, sustains itself for two hours on the mission to protect US soldiers against the insurgency that arose in opposition to the US invasion and occupation based on the initial delusion….
…Any honest skeptic equipped with even a cursory understanding of the antecedents to the Iraq War will see what’s going on here. It’s not a debatable issue: We know now for sure that Iraq had absolutely nothing — nada, zilch — to do with the downing of the twin towers in New York. Dick Cheney’s persistent claims to the contrary, the secular Muslim Saddam Hussein, once our ally, was a bitter enemy of al Qaeda. But in 2014, the film’s producer, writer and director decided on a clean and efficient plot line that hinges on the highly emotional image of the towers falling. The real Chris Kyle may have absolutely believed in this fictional connection, but a protagonist’s delusion is not a defense for emotionally perpetuating such a costly fiction (many call it a “lie”) in a narrative film about the war. But, then, that’s what “popular” filmmaking is all about, and Eastwood is, if nothing else, a maestro of popular American storytelling. Whether or not one respects such a corrupt decision, the fact is American Sniper is an extremely well-made movie….
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Over the years, he has honed this very masculine style and become a popular film director exploring the American psyche mostly from the reactionary right — though his films are always a dialogue with issues on the left. American Sniper is no different with its limited contrapuntal theme of PTSD and homefront family adjustment.All that storytelling talent is on the screen in American Sniper. Like the war itself, the film is aggressive, masculine and highly kinetic. The film’s sound effects are rich and thundering in the theater; its camera work is direct and bold. There’s a real “shock and awe” feel to the piece. MRAPs roar out of the FOB with a menacing hugeness. Any sense of reflection is missing, and historical and political context are willfully left out of the story. When confronted with leftist criticism suggesting the film got the Iraq War wrong, producer and star Bradley Cooper reportedly said, “It’s not a film about debating the war; it’s a character study.”
Cooper is right: The film is a character study — a highly controlled character study that clearly leaves a lot out. But all it takes is watching Fox News champ Sean Hannity’s groveling before the film for a full hour special to realize Cooper may be a likable, talented actor, but he’s dead wrong when he says the film isn’t part of the debate about the Iraq War. In a larger context, it’s also very much about violence and militarism in America in these very complicated and troubling times.By avoiding contextual issues — specifically, the reasons SEAL sniper Chris Kyle was in Iraq killing those 160 Iraqi insurgents — the film is art that operates as propaganda in a cultural context. Film-making skills are not to be sneezed at, but to use a classically egregious example, D.W. Griffith’s Birth of the Nation was also an extremely well-made film. As for Iraq War films, to contrast Eastwood’s film, the plot that drives the Matt Damon film Green Zone is getting to the bottom of all the things that don’t add up in the search for WMDs. In that film, making sense of the war’s confusing context is the goal, while in American Sniper, the goal is hero worship and avoidance of anything that sullies that story…. See link….’
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Eastwood’s ‘American Sniper’: Republican Propaganda?
By Mark Tapson….Now comes American Sniper, directed by Clint Eastwood and based on the memoir of the same name by the late SEAL warrior Chris Kyle, whose 160 confirmed sniper kills (and almost 100 more “probables”) in the Iraq war made him a legend. With the film, the openly conservative/libertarian Hollywood icon Eastwood dared to buck the trend and make a movie that refuses to muddy the moral waters.
Liberal critics bristled. In the end-of-the-year issue of New York magazine, film critic David Edelson began his review of American Sniper with an ad hominem attack on the director for his political conservatism. Referring to Eastwood’s playful address to an empty chair representing President Obama at the 2012 Republican National Convention, Edelson wrote that “Eastwood looked as if he were slipping into doddering dementia.”
He goes on to admit that American Sniper is “a crackerjack piece of filmmaking” and that its star Bradley Cooper “is very impressive” in the lead role; but morally, he says, Eastwood “has regressed.” Because the movie doesn’t condemn what Edelson calls “the Iraq occupation,” then it must be dismissed as “scandalously blinkered” and nothing more than “a Republican platform movie.”
A.O. Scott’s review in the New York Times correctly states that American Sniper “reaffirms Mr. Eastwood’s commitment to the themes of vengeance and justice in a fallen world. In the universe of his films — a universe where the existence of evil is a given — violence is a moral necessity, albeit one that often exacts a cost from those who must wield it in the service of good.” This is a distinctly conservative world view which Scott finds ethically arguable and potentially dangerous; nonetheless, he concedes that “much of [the movie’s] considerable power derives from the clarity and sincerity of its bedrock convictions.”
But the only moral conviction that the left can accept about the Iraq war is one which condemns our role in it. Hence Scott goes on to assert that Eastwood “edits the history in which [the story] is embedded,” although he doesn’t say how. The implication is that Eastwood’s “troubling” moral perspective does not allow for the foreign policy critique that Scott requires from a Hollywood war movie. Indeed he writes that “though George W. Bush’s name is never invoked, ‘American Sniper’ can be seen as an expression of nostalgia for his Manichaean approach to foreign policy.”
That approach is too simplistic for the left, who are uncomfortable with the notion that there are good guys and bad guys, and even more uncomfortable with the notion that Americans are the good guys. Progressives pretend that they see the world as more “nuanced,” when in fact what the left calls nuance is usually moral equivalence; for them, America at war is always in the wrong, and the people who want to kill us do so because they have legitimate “grievances.”
Scott doesn’t like the fact that Chris Kyle’s enemies “are identified only and repeatedly as Al Qaeda,” and neither does Edelson, who complains that “the people Kyle shoots always represent a ‘savage, despicable evil.’” This leads one to suspect that the critics would have preferred that Eastwood show our soldiers killing innocent Iraqis as well, not just the bad guys. “As in many jingoist war movies,” Scott writes, “the native population are portrayed as invaders of our sacred space instead of vice versa.” But we weren’t at war with the native population, of course; we were at war with the savage, despicable evil of international terrorist Saddam Hussein and of the insurgents who were terrorizing the natives.
Critics like Edelson and Scott don’t criticize the heavy-handed politics of left-leaning films or directors. They didn’t call George Clooney’s and Matt Damon’s jihadist recruitment movie Syriana “scandalously blinkered.” They didn’t dismiss Sean Penn’s Valerie Plame snoozefest Fair Game as a “Democrat platform movie.” They didn’t say that Brian de Palma – whose disgusting Redacted portrayed our soldiers as raping, murdering occupiers – had “regressed” morally.
But let a right-leaning director make a film that strives to be apolitical, and progressives – for whom everything is political – must politicize it so that they can then condemn it as jingoistic. “The politics of the Iraq war are entirely absent” in American Sniper, Scott wrote, “which is a political statement in its own right.” So he magically declares it “a propaganda film,” just as Edelson called it a “Republican platform movie.” Conservative directors are damned if they do, damned if they don’t.
In a sense, though, American Sniper IS a Republican platform movie – or at least, a conservative platform movie, because it reflects the wisdom that, in A.O. Scott’s own words, “violence is a moral necessity that often exacts a cost from those who must wield it in the service of good.” Soldiers are not political. They are at the service of our country, at the mercy of our politicians, and at the command of their superiors. Thus, to echo Tennyson, “Theirs not to reason why/Theirs but to do and die.” Conservatives recognize that and honor them for it. As much as it may aggravate the left, American Sniper is not about politics, but about an American hero at war with Islamic evil….see link…
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wvParticipantDunno if this has been posted:
http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/101699/no-one-gets-more-help-than-russell-wilson“…Seattle’s defense has a knack for playing its best when Wilson and the offense are at their worst. Since the start of 2012, Wilson has had 22 games with a QBR below 50, including 15 wins. In those games, Seattle has held its opponents to an average QBR of 34.0 and has had a per-game defensive efficiency of +7.3. In Wilson’s games with an above-average QBR, the Seahawks have allowed a 45.7 average QBR and have had a +2.4 defensive efficiency rating.
No one can take away Wilson’s NFL-leading 42 wins since the start of the 2012 season, the most by any player in his first three seasons (including playoffs) in the Super Bowl era. But much of his success has been a result of his teammates; he has had the benefit of playing with the most dominant defense in the NFL and the league’s leading rusher, Marshawn Lynch, in the past three years.
… see link…”w
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January 25, 2015 at 8:02 pm in reply to: What American Sniper did is much, much worse than rewrite history #17373
wvParticipant“I would jump in, but i agree with every word
zn has said.”Captain Renault in Casablanca: “I’m shocked, shocked I tell you…”
Your views are not exactly a big surprise
either, right?Zack and I share the same politics
and approach to this stuff.
You have a different approach/politix (shrug)Btw, i have NO idea how you can see an Eastwood
movie and not see his politics. Its right there
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wvParticipantI think its worth at least noting that
Snisher has done a pretty good job
building the defense and special teams.Its not like they are blithering idiots
when it comes to personnel.Just seems to me, that its more likely
than not that they are gonna Fix the
OLine.They know everything depends on it.
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vJanuary 25, 2015 at 1:40 pm in reply to: What American Sniper did is much, much worse than rewrite history #17347
wvParticipantThe way I do this, I can have a critique like that of a film and still like it. I just counter-balance all the different stuff. You can’t look for movies to be always mirroring your own views. So I am always doing all the things at once — ideological critique, wasn’t that scene cool, great film, it’s still a commercial for mainstream beliefs, what a great film, etc..
Yes.
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vJanuary 25, 2015 at 1:34 pm in reply to: What American Sniper did is much, much worse than rewrite history #17346
wvParticipantI would jump in, but i agree with every word
zn has said. Especially the parts about Art/Politics
being kinda inseparable.And its ok to hold a film
accountable for its political inaccuracies and lies,
just as its ok to hold a film accountable for its
aesthetics etc. Blah blah blahIt would be impossible for Eastwood or Oliver Stone
to make a movie about a sniper in Iraq
without having this kind of thread
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wvParticipantDeflated footballs are easier to hold on to, so that could account for the highly improbable statistical disparity between the Patriot’s plays/fumble and everyone else’s. Just sayin.
The next time Belichek negotiates a deal with Satan he should have his lawyers make sure it stipulates that the public won’t find out about the cheating. Yeah, he’ll get the wins and any repercussions from the cheating will be relatively mild but to non-Pats fans the victories will always be tainted. His legacy is forever tarnished.
The algebra is interesting,
but not conclusive, of course.What happens if Pete Carroll and Belichex,
both made deals with the Devil?
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wvParticipant“….The 2014 Patriots were just the 3rd team in the last 25 years to never have lost a fumble at home! The biggest difference between the Patriots and the other 2 teams who did it was that New England ran between 150 and 200 MORE plays this year than those teams did in the years they had zero home fumbles, making the Patriots stand alone in this unique statistic.
Based on the desire to incorporate full season data (not just home games, as a team theoretically bring “doctored footballs” with them on the road) I performed the following analysis:
I looked at the last 5 years.of data (since 2010) and examined TOTAL FUMBLES in all games (as well as fumbles/game) but more importantly, TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS RUN. Thus, we can to determine average PLAYS per FUMBLE, a much more valuable statistic. The results are displayed in the chart below. Keep in mind, this is for all games since 2010, regardless of indoors, outdoors, weather, site, etc. EVERYTHING…
One can CLEARLY SEE the Patriots, visually, are off the chart. There is no other team even close to being near to their rate of 187 offensive plays (passes+rushes+sacks) per fumble. The league average is 105 plays/fumble. Most teams are within 21 plays of that number.
I spoke with a data scientist who I know from work on the NFLproject.com website, and sent him the data. He said:
Based on the assumption that fumbles per play follow a normal distribution, you’d expect to see, according to random fluctuation, the results that the Patriots have gotten over this period, once in 16,233.77 instances”.
Which in layman’s terms means that this result only being a coincidence, is like winning a raffle where you have a 0.0000616 probability to win. Which in other words, it’s very unlikely that it’s a coincidence….
…see link…”The comments after the article are interesting, btw
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wvParticipantI agree with all that.
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“Have the courage to be ignorant of a great many things in order
to avoid the calamity of being ignorant of everything.”
Sydney Smith (1771-1885)
wvParticipant<span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>Ridiculous to wait till after the Super Bowl,might not have affected the Colts game but the Ravens game very well could have.The goal of any cheating would have been to get to the Super Bowl if allowed to play in the Super Bowl anyway why not cheat is the message that sends</span>
Well I would think the most ‘likely’ result of the investigation
is that no-one will be able to prove anything.
I mean, how are they gonna find out what happened
if no-one confesses? My guess is
there will be no way to find out who
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wvParticipantJeesh, their teaching him things.
That can only help.
Given that, they should send more players to the pro bowl.
Yeah, thats a cool vid.
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vJanuary 24, 2015 at 3:44 pm in reply to: Grayson, Hundley, Petty, Carden etc. … the qbs this year #17301
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wvParticipantDaniel Jeremiah’s top 50
1 Williams DE USC
2 Gregory LB Nebraska
3 White WR, WVU
4 Cooper WR, Alabama
5 Shelton NT, Wash
6 Winston QB FSU
7 Fowler, LB, Fla
8 Ray, DE, Missouri
9 Parker, WR, Louisville
10 Gordon RB, Wisc
11 Mariota, QB OregFirst OLineman is Clemmings
at 15w
vJanuary 24, 2015 at 3:28 pm in reply to: Super Agent Lee Steinberg addresses the LA Rams fans today Jan 18th #17298
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Peacock and Blitz leaned on financing in other facilities when they crafted their plan. They incorporated $200 million in NFL loans — as has each recent new building. They included a $200 million match from Rams owner Stan Kroenke, as is required by the NFL loan. They estimated that extending payments on debt for the 20-year-old Edward Jones Dome, where the Rams now play, could provide another $350 million or so.
And the last major contribution? The sale of as much as $130 million in seat licenses.
Peacock has declined to discuss the seat licenses.
============================================Who owes that debt-money on the 20-year-old Ed Jones dome? I dont really understand
where that 350 million comes from. Someone explain it.And how come Peacock wont talk about seat licenses?
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wvParticipantGood stuff. Interesting.
I suppose the league is not going to want
the Pats to win now. Ya know. Just
in case it turns out the Pats are
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wvParticipantYeah, I have my share of friends who ain’t candidates for scholarships to Cambridge, but are spooky gifted smart in an area or 2, like let’s say electronics. I believe there’s something like “football smart.”
I liken it to “street smarts” or thinking on your feet which I value a lot more than a 4.0 GPA.
I personally dont have street smarts,
but i have tree smarts. Like i can just
look at a Christmas tree and i can virtually
read its mind. I’m uncanny that way.But do they ever test that kind of thing
on IQ-tests ? No. They do not.I also, have wiffle-ball-smarts. I
am probably the best wiffle-ball player
in the country. Does Peter King ever
come to interview me? No. He does not.Lots of different intelligences
out there. I suspect Ag is a
scalloped-potato-genius, btw.
Sdram is a bar-b-Q genius.w
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wvParticipantMontana smart? From what I’ve heard and read he was not the brightest bulb in the room. However, what he did have was the eyesight of a bird of prey ! He could literally see the entire field at the snap of the ball -and clearly. One of the greatest assets a qb can have is extremely high level eyesight. I think that is a crucial element that made Montana “great”.
I’ve read that “not the brightest bulb” stuff about Montana, but I’ve also read that
about Aikman, Marino, Ferragamo, Kilmer, Nittany etc. I dont pay much attention to that stuff.
I mean football-smart is one kind of ‘smart’. There’s a gazillion kinds of ‘smarts.’ Thats
why i have issues with IQ tests. There are so many kinds of ‘smart’ that arent tested
on those things….blah blah blah.Seemed to me, Montana had everything cept the big Arm.
He also had a Genius coach. Like Brady/Belichick.
I dont think the value of having a great coach
can be under-estimated.w
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wvParticipanthttp://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/12217564/nfl-conducting-investigation-claim-new-england-patriots-used-underinflated-footballs
NFL interviewed forty people so far.w
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wvParticipanthttp://sportsworld.nbcsports.com/how-they-were-built/
How Pats and Hawks were built“…Applying that practice meant that when the Seahawks broke through in 2012, they were the youngest team in the league. The 2014 Seahawks are a more mature team, both on the field and in terms of the development cycle of a group of players, but many of the same methods still apply….”
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wvParticipantProehl on the Catch
http://www.rams-news.com/ricky-proehl-discusses-his-famous-catch-in-the-99-nfc-champ-game-audio/“I see John Lynch all the time…you almost wanna be a jerk…”
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wvParticipantHigh-caliber football discussion is not about “fun.”
It’s a life or death struggle to see who is right, and who in contrast must be consigned to the dustbinVermeil was a Figurehead.
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wvParticipanth, and the movie script would have us win the Super Bowl, Sam hoisting the Lombardi, and then pack everything up and move to LA
by tom 3:46 PMWould the parade be in LA.
by jthomas 3:46 PM
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renewed season tickets yesterday. I hope others do as well. We need to show the NFL that we support Dave Peacock and the players. Saw where Saints owner (87 yrs old) disowned his family. Can you say St Louis Saints.
by ramsfan 4:24 PMOK. we know they’ll be at least one fan in the stands next year. . . . .
by jthomas 4:25 PM
=========================JT’s is a little funnier than usual.
He’s never exactly been the Louie CK
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wvParticipantMontana went to the Championship game in Kansas City and was a concussion away from the Super Bowl that year, and that was without Bill Walsh.
it took Steve Young, (who I think is better than Russell Wilson) some salary cap magic, border line cheating from Carmen Policy to get Steve Young to the Super Bowl.Montana was a great QB………
I like Wilson, but he was drafted on pretty complete Seahawks teams. You have to consider that even Charlie Whitehurst won playoff games with Seattle.
I agree, Montana was great. But the question is what does ‘great’ mean. Its contested ground as to what “great” means
when we are talking about a player who is one eleventh of a Team. Its hard to isolate their attributes and its
hard to compare ‘greatness’ for all the obvious reasons. This kind of thing is never ‘settled’ — its just
a continuous conversation, with people wondering about all sorts of things over time. Fun stuff, in other words.For me, the Chief experience supports ‘my’ position — I remember thinking at the time, Montana looks good as a Chief
but not nearly as good as when he was with Bill Walsh. The Montana vs Elway game was fun as i recall. Now we have Wilson vs Brady 🙂w
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wvParticipantI wouldn’t put Wilson in Montana’s class…not even a little. Montana was a smooth, smart, heady qb quarter by quarter who could engineer a great passing game and did it early on WITHOUT Craig or Rice. Montana had already played on a superbowl team 2 seasons before they drafted Craig and 5 seasons before Rice. The 1981 SF offense is Montana, Ricky Patton, Clark, Solomon, and Earl Cooper at FB. He did it while SF was 9th in passing attempts and 19th in rushing yards. They too (in 81) had a top-ranked defense.
Wilson is a gamer in an offense that does NOT depend on him to throw from the pocket 4 quarters. That makes him a perfect fit for an offense that takes advantage of his read-option skills while limiting his throws.
The Rams have regularly matched up with Seattle because short of the occasional Ogletree screw-ups, they are set up to both limit Lynch and contain Wilson, making him a pocket passer. When that works…it works, though they haven’t had the qbs the last few games to take advantage (Clemens, Davis, Hill).
Meanwhile the strategy of just containing Montana would never have worked like that. He was too quick-minded and savvy as a passing qb.
Now people can argue that being clutch is tops, and that a read-option qb isn’t really to be judged the same as a more pure pocket passer (and compared to Wilson that’s what Montana was).
So he belongs to a different category, and is perfect for Seattle’s situation.
But my instinct is, put Luck on Seattle and they thrive, put Wilson on the Colts and they struggle.
Well, I am not persuaded.
For one thing, I think that view minimizes the “Bill Walsh is an Offensive Genius” factor.
A lot of what Montana did was because Walsh designed such a magnificent offense.
I suspect if you put Russell Wilson on that 49er team, nothing much changes.
Who knows though.w
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wvParticipant“You can’t blame Johnny. This is who he is. The team knew that.”
I like that. Its almost like a Haiku.
You cannot blame Johnny.
This is who he is.
The team knew that.w
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wvParticipantMy response: Integrity of the game? What integrity? It’s played by a bunch of malcontent, maladjusted, violent thugs for the most part who are druggies, rapists, murderers, spousal abusers, on and on.
And we love the game because the uniforms hide it all.
You forgot the Robber-Barron-Owners, and Corporate-Lawyers,
Corporate-Agents, and the rest of the chain of Corporate-Being 🙂At any rate, its a good question: Why do we love pro football?
I think i love it cause i just love the game itself. The drama of it.
The chess matches. The highs and lows. There’s some primal resonance
going on too, i guess. I dunno.I love Tapirs too. And cheese cake. And birch trees.
And Haiku. Just so you know.w
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