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    <span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>I dvr the draft on 2 channels. Then fast forward through it. The draft has changed so much. It used to be they talked about the players. Now you are lucky to get a couple minutes of actual football. The internet serves much better for getting real information.</span>

    I vote for putting Jack Lambert in charge
    of the Draft Show.

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    in reply to: 3rd day tweets #23736
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    that’s too bad. i like stacy. but yeah. best to let him move on.

    brett hundley finally drafted by packers in the fifth round.

    1. TB: Jameis Winston, Florida St.
    2. TEN: Marcus Mariota, Oregon
    75. NO: Garrett Grayson, Colorado St
    89. STL: Sean Mannion, Oregon St.
    103. NYJ: Bryce Petty, Baylor
    147. GB: Brett Hundley, UCLA

    in reply to: 3rd day tweets #23728
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    I’m told the Jets are one of the teams that have inquired about Rams RB Zac Stacey, who wants out after the Gurley pick #nyj
    — Manish Mehta (@MMehtaNYDN)

    Jets inquiry into Rams RB Zac Stacey did not include a formal offer. #nyj
    — Manish Mehta (@MMehtaNYDN)

    in reply to: Andrew Donnal – OT Iowa — 4th rd pick #23726
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    Nick Wagoner ‏@nwagoner 6m6 minutes ago
    OL Andrew Donnal clearly fired up about being drafted. Describes himself as you’d expect: “mauler.” Says he “likes kicking ass.”

    Would you say Zooey is a “mauler” ?

    3 Olinemen out of four picks.
    Has that ever happened in the history
    of Rams drafts? I bet not even
    Ground Chuck or John Robinson did that.

    edit: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/ram/draft.htm
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    1986 1 23 Mike Schad G
    1986 2 50 Tom Newberry G
    1986 3 71 Hugh Millen QB
    1986 6 144 Robert Jenkins T 19
    1986 6 160 Lynn Williams RB
    1986 8 195 Steve Jarecki LB
    1986 8 216 Hank Goebel T
    1986 9 243 Elbert Watts DB
    1986 10 273 Garrett Breeland LB
    1986 11 300 Chul Schwa RB
    1986 12 327 Marcus Dupree RB

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    • This reply was modified 11 years ago by Avatar photowv.
    in reply to: Andrew Donnal – OT Iowa — 4th rd pick #23723
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    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=106900&draftyear=2015&genpos=OT
    Name: Andrew Donnal
    College: Iowa Number: 78
    Height: 6-6 Weight: 313
    Position: OT Pos2: OG
    Class/Draft Year: rSr/2015
    40 Low: 5.20 40 Time: 5.30 40 High: 5.41
    Projected Round: 6 Stock: High: 4-5th Low: PFA
    Rated number 19 out of 87 OT’s 217 / 2301 TOTAL

    in reply to: 3rd day tweets #23719
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    Vikes took Clemmings, I see.

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    in reply to: Mannion… reactions, info, discussion #23697
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    Brugler on Mannion:
    STRENGTHS:
    Tall with an adequate build……
    accurate deep ball thrower with terrific touch on bucket tosses…
    not afraid to test small windows and gives his man a chance to attack the ball…
    tough and bounces back after hits…
    full control of the offense…calm… practice habits…
    natural leadership intangibles…
    Pac-12 career record for passing yards (13,600).

    WEAKNESSES:
    struggles to re-set his eyes once moved from his spot…
    …struggling to recognize the blitz and doesn’t do enough after the snap to evade pressure, failing to speed up his process…
    hesitant when the pocket shows cracks and looks like a deer in headlights…
    holds the ball too long with a suspect internal clock that can be read with a sun dial…
    tends to telegraph his throws, staring down his targets…
    pre-determines passes and makes puzzling decisions…
    doesn’t have the mobility to improvise or keep plays alive,
    lacks an efficient release with small hands…
    …loses confidence too easily, causing poor ball placement…
    …not the same quarterback without Brandin Cooks as his safety valve
    …career 46.4% passer on 3rd down attempts with a 21-16 TD-INT ratio.

    SUMMARY: If he can learn how to speed up his process for the NFL level,
    Mannion can carve out a Shaun Hill type of career, but if he doesn’t,
    his career will likely follow a Tony Pike-like path.

    Well. I’m not optimistic.

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    in reply to: How many rookies will they start? #23686
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    I doubt it.

    GRob // Jones // Rhaney // Saffold // Havenstein

    I could see an OL like that.

    They really liked Rhaney a LOT at Center and Jones was good at both C and OG, so it wouldn’t surprise me at all to see them kick Jones out to LOG and slot Rhaney into the starter’s role at C.

    All that presumes Barks doesn’t come back and that we don’t sign Blalock.

    But I’d be good with that OL, frankly with Brown as depth, learning. Especially since Saffold tends to get dinged and Brown is a predominantly Right side guy and Saffold played his best on the right side.

    But, it’s so early, who knows?

    Any glaring weaknesses on this team now, Mack?

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    in reply to: Draft – Day 3 – Top 50 – GBN #23685
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    Maybe take the best Special Teams
    player available: BSA

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    in reply to: Dale Hansen\'s inspiring video on racism #23614
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    in reply to: Todd Gurley #23612
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    I’ve been thinking about this pick.

    Can’t say I like it.

    Okay–maybe he becomes Peterson or Lynch. Maybe.
    But the Rams were not hurting at RB. They had a good young runner in Mason

    Well there’s where we disagree, i guess: On the value of a “Lynch.”

    I dont think Seattle is Seattle without Lynch. He’s more than just a “good runner.”

    Based on what I read, Gurley is special. A game-breaker. A Playmaker. A pass-catcher and a Runner.

    I just dont think Tre Mason can compare with Gurley. Based on what I’ve been reading. Thats all i got
    to go on.

    An elite-complete-RB can help an OLine and he can help a QB.

    Lets see what Snisher does in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Its all purty fascinating.

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    in reply to: Todd Gurley #23609
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    OK, let’s assume that Tre Mason is a B+/A- RB. Go along with that?

    And Let’s stipulate that TG is an A RB. Just imagine that’s so.
    Does that make us much better as a team? I don’t see how.

    To me there is a wider difference between Tre and Gurley
    than B+/A- versus A

    IF, and only if, Gurley is healthy,
    i think its more like B versus A+

    I think. I dunno. I’m just goin
    by what i read.

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    in reply to: Snead on Sirius NFL this afternoon… #23607
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    And they are risking the entire year by not acting decisively to shore up the OL.

    My good friend WV has repeatedly posted that, since A) the season depends on OL solutions and B) the FO is smart enough to understand that, then, C) they will prioritize the OL this off season.

    I don’t think Snead and Fisher got the WV memo.

    Well in general i agree with your post, RFL — you cannot win in the league
    with a big weak link on your team. Especially the OLine.

    But I think you can take a guy like Gurley and STILL
    fix the Oline. I think. I’m not sure, but I think you can.

    Based on what i keep reading, this is a deep draft for solid Olinemen.
    I ‘think’ they can stil fix the OLine on day two and three.

    We’ll see.

    If you have a chance to take a Faulk or Dickerson, and you
    still have 2nd, 3rd and 4ourth rounders to get OLinemen — i think you
    go ahead and take the elite RB. I’m fine with that.

    Of course if the kid blows out his ACL in game one — I will
    freak out and blame Fisher.

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    it took Payton 9 NFL seasons to experience the 85 Bears… he was drafted by Chicago in the mid 70’s when they were the “Bad News Bears” Jack Pardee was still learning to coach… coincidentally, years later….Fisher replaced Pardee in Houston….

    I was hoping for Andrus Peat from Stanford or some type of OLine protection…. i’m confused with this pick especially with Tre Mason in the backfield and the holes in the offensive line…

    I think a ‘healthy’ Gurley can help Foles as much
    as an OLineman.

    I also think Gurley helps Tavon and every other
    skill player on offense.

    Tre is a good solid back but he didnt scare
    anyone — A healthy Gurley-plus-Tre might
    just be scary.

    Assuming of course they find some blockers.

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    Didnt the 49ers draft a highly touted RB who
    had an ACL injury last year? How
    did that work out?

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    in reply to: John Oliver: Fashion #23555
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    Good thing we have John Oliver to fill the void that will be created when Jon Stewart retires.

    Yeah, Oliver is the best
    these days. I cant believe
    the networks let him stay on the air.

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    in reply to: Jon Stewart on Baltimore #23553
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    “Now I wanted to say something about the fact that we have lived over these last two or three summers with agony and we have seen our cities going up in flames. And I would be the first to say that I am still committed to militant, powerful, massive, non-violence as the most potent weapon in grappling with the problem from a direct action point of view. I’m absolutely convinced that a riot merely intensifies the fears of the white community while relieving the guilt. And I feel that we must always work with an effective, powerful weapon and method that brings about tangible results. But it is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots. It would be morally irresponsible for me to do that without, at the same time, condemning the contingent, intolerable conditions that exist in our society. These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the negro poor has worsened over the last twelve or fifteen years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity.” -MLK

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    Wow. Thats hard for me to believe. I’m skeptical.

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    in reply to: Todd Gurley #23480
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    I just don’t get how this makes us a better team. Really don’t.
    Still looking for OL, WR, QB. No help in places we needed it.

    I dunno, RFL, but if he’s healthy,
    i can certainly see how he improves the team.

    Its possible he might help open things up
    a bit for Tavon. We’ll see.

    Obviously they think they can build
    an OLine without using their first pick.

    We’ll see.

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    in reply to: Todd Gurley #23471
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Gurley
    Wiki
    Gurley was also a world-class hurdler and sprinter for the school’s track & field team. He competed for Team USA in the 110-metres hurdles at the 2011 World Youth Championships in Athletics, where he placed 3rd in the prelims with a career-best time of 13.66 seconds,[4] but finished 15th overall in the semifinals.[5] Also a top competitor in the 100-meter dash, he ran a personal-best time of 10.70 seconds in the prelims of the 2011 NCHSAA 2A State Track Meet, placing 2nd.[6]

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    October 14, 2014
    Gurley Should Shun College Football
    http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/98469786/todd-gurley-suspended-georgia-nfl-draft

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    Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
    Hard to gauge consensus on draft prospects. Know one team has #UGA’s Todd Gurley No. 1 overall on the board. Safe to say, not everyone does
    10:02 AM – 29 Apr 2015
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    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000488719/article/georgias-todd-gurley-no-1-player-on-one-teams-board
    …Gurley who suffered the knee injury in a Nov. 15 win over Auburn…

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    baldinger on Gurley
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000483102/article/baldinger-todd-gurley-is-going-to-be-special-running-back

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    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/todd-gurley?id=2552475

    Analysis
    Strengths Rare blend of speed and power. Immense power in legs and shows balance through contact. Shreds arm tackles and has speed to house it. Very hard to tackle on an angle. Professional, decisive runner. Presses line of scrimmage to set up his cut-back runs. Gets downhill with knee bend and forward lean, staying small through the hole. Uses quick, tight steps to second level. Will sink and explode into tackler or side-step and jet, causing hesitation in downhill safeties with their approach. Converts “speed to power” between tackles and around corner. Rarely looks to run out of bounds and finishes his runs. Able to factor out of the backfield with soft hands and ability to adjust to throws. In 2014, churned out an amazing 61.9 percent of his rushing yardage after contact. Strong hands and carries ball tight to his body. Only three fumbles in 510 carries.

    Weaknesses Missed three games in 2013 due to ankle injury and tore his ACL in 2014. Questions about whether he’ll return back to his play speed are a big concern. Vision is average. Still gaining feel as a zone runner. Too locked into looking for cutback lanes when play-side run is open. Can get better at setting up blockers in space. Average creativity in tight quarters. Patience and tempo as a runner can improve. Quick passing attack limited his protection opportunities but was very average when given the shot.
    Draft Projection Round 1

    NFL Comparison Marshawn Lynch

    Bottom Line The rehab work and NFL Scouting Combine medicals will be extremely important for Gurley’s draft stock as teams assess his potential durability as an NFL running back. He played less than 40 percent of his team’s offensive snaps over the last three years, so there is plenty of tread still on the tires. Has the talent to be a top-five NFL running back, but ACL tear clouds the short-term picture.

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    in reply to: Marvel Rams become #23407
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    Washington Groots
    would be a major improvement.

    Whatever a ‘groot’ is.

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    in reply to: good draft podcast, w/ Ross Tucker and guests #23397
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    Ross brings in former NFL QB Shaun King and Kyle Crabbs, the author of NDT Scouting’s annual NFL Draft Prospectus for today’s podcast.

    I liked this podcast

    King is excellent. Good communicator.

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    in reply to: Jon Stewart on Baltimore #23396
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    in reply to: Browns really want Mariotta #23352
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    Sure, it would be great…..until the North Korean team wants to re-locate to Guam

    Being a ram fan means
    falling upon many
    thorns.

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    “I fall upon the thorns of life, I bleed. And then? I fall upon the thorns of life, I bleed. And what next? I get laid, I take a short holiday, but very soon after I fall upon those same thorns with gratification in pain, or suffering in joy – who knows what the mixture is! What good, what lasting good is there in me? Is there nothing else between birth and death but what I can get out of this perversity – only a favorable balance of disorderly emotions? No freedom? Only impulses? And what about all the good I have in my heart – does it mean anything? Is it simply a joke? A false hope that makes a man feel the illusion of worth? And so he goes on with his struggles. But this good is no phony. I know it isn’t. I swear it.”
    ― Saul Bellow Herzog

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    They’d probly have to add a no.2 pick as well,
    I would think.

    I dont really get the Mariota love, btw.
    I’ve never understood it.

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    Yeah, I don’t think a single one of these guys has produced a damn thing in the NFL.

    Ya know, if you dont like college players,
    maybe you should just move to North Korea.

    Btw, i wonder if the NFL would expand
    into North Korea if the money was right.

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    Alyoshamucci — 4/29/15 mock draft

    So I’m going to do the first round, then our 6 picks. Hopefully Ill remember to pick the same person for us, lol.

    Going to note that I believe will will have trade down options in the second maybe even more rich than in the first. I am also going to honor a few trades that I simply can’t live without. Bears have too many needs to address WR at 7 and not take a 3rd from Cleveland. This is if I’m GM.

    Rams
    1) Kevin White WR
    2) Preston Smith DE
    3) Arie Kuandjio OG
    4) Max Garcia OC
    6) Matt Jones RB
    7) Zack Vigil ILB

    UDFA targets
    Shane Carden, Chris Slade OG, Brandon Vitabile OC, any Auburn DT that slides (or SEC, Orr, Philon and Surratt included), Jordan Taylor, Geremy Davis, Cam Worthy, Jeff Prater …

    1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Jameis Winston
    2. Tennessee Titans – Marcus Mariota
    3. Jacksonville Jaguars – L Williams
    4. Oakland Raiders – D Fowler
    5. Washington Redskins – Vic Beasley
    6. New York Jets – Bud Dupree
    7. Cleveland Browns via Bears – Amari Cooper
    8. Atlanta Falcons – Shane Ray (of the two pot smokers, the one that can keep weight on)
    9. New York Giants – Brandon Scherff
    10. St. Louis Rams – Kevin White (size speed athlete)
    11. Minnesota Vikings – Devante Parker (too good to pass up teddy’s old roommate in case Wallace falls flat)
    12. Chicago Bears – Jordan Phillips (Fox takes the player with the upside that he can coach)
    13. New Orleans Saints – Landon Collins (aggression on the back end)
    14. Miami Dolphins – Trae Waynes
    15. Steelers for a 4th (9ers wanted out) – Randy Gregory
    16. Houston Texans – Breshad Perriman
    17. San Diego Chargers – Todd Gurley
    18. Kansas City Chiefs – La’el Collins
    19. Cleveland Browns – Arik Armstead
    20. Philadelphia Eagles – Marcus Peters
    21. Cincinnati Bengals – Ereck Flowers
    22. San Francisco 49ers – Stephone Anthony (I expect a run on ILBs, too many teams need them)
    23. Detroit Lions – Melvin Gordon
    24. Arizona Cardinals – Eric Kendricks (Larry Foote is 75 years old)
    25. Carolina Panthers – Jake Fisher
    26. Baltimore Ravens – Kevin Johnson
    27. Dallas Cowboys – Odighizuwa
    28. Denver Broncos – Danny Shelton
    29. Indianapolis Colts – Cam Erving
    30. Green Bay Packers – Bernardrick Mckinney
    31. New Orleans Saints – Eli Harold
    32. New England Patriots – Dorial Green Beckham

    I have to say, that it’s been a really long time since I didn’t even know what positions we were narrowed down to going into the draft, and this is the least confident I have been with a mock. I think having Reynolds and possibly Barksdale coming back gives us some room to manuever. I also believe there’s a run on ILBs late round 1 early round 2. Those guys that don’t share reps and manage the defense are tough to come by. The top 5 look pretty secure to me, after that there could be a trade every pick.
    The WRs and RBs should come off in a flurry in round 2.

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    SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 18m18 minutes ago
    Browns offer two 1st-round picks to Titans for No. 2 overall selection, where they would plan to take Marcus Mariota. (via @PatMcManamon)

    They’d probly have to add a no.2 pick as well,
    I would think.

    I dont really get the Mariota love, btw.
    I’ve never understood it.

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