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wvParticipantUgh. There’s zero guarantee he
is on “the road to recovery.”Q stands for Question mark,
now.It took a quarter of a century
for the Rams to find an equivalent
to Merlin and Deacon — and we might
have lost that magic after one year.w
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wvParticipantI just dont see how people
can blame Snead for anything.
I dunno that he gets an “A”
but he gets at least a “B”
I’d think.And if by chance Mannion
turns out to be a no.1
he gets an A+w
vYou know that I have gone through drafts of good drafting teams, and drafting well means hitting on around 40+%…to the mid/high 40s. Anything much beyond the high 40s is just unusually good, beyond the “good” norm into the “rare and superb” tier.
According to my count, Snead has hit on 46%.
That’s not a “B” that’s a solid “A” IMO. Especially when you factor in guality, which includes Donald, plus as I said 2 top 10 corners in the same draft (without spending a 1st round pick).
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Enh. I dunno. Have you factored in the
fact that Snead has had more first and second
round picks than other GMs ?
I mean the RG3 trade gave him
some cant-miss options.w
vJanuary 8, 2016 at 11:15 am in reply to: Bucs fire Lovie, Coughlin resigns, which naturally leads to Fisher discussion #36821
wvParticipantWell as for the race issue, i think
its interesting. All the owners are white, I think,
aren’t they? So when coaches like Garrett and Fisher
get long runs, its understandable that some people
would question just how the good-ole-boy system works.Nothing wrong with raising that issue, and
conversing about it.As far as all this anti-fisher talk lately
that scolds the media for somehow liking him
more than they should — I dont even know
how to process that.Whats missing from all these ‘national’ celebrity
rants is, any serious break-down of what
happened during each of his seasons, and why
things either went well or didnt. They just
count the winning seasons and the losing
seasons and they call that analysis.w
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wvParticipantI just dont see how people
can blame Snead for anything.
I dunno that he gets an “A”
but he gets at least a “B”
I’d think.And if by chance Mannion
turns out to be a no.1
he gets an A+w
vJanuary 8, 2016 at 8:32 am in reply to: From the archives: Kroenke's pledge to keep the Rams in St. Louis #36811
wvParticipantStan’s getting excoriated in the press here, by everybody. Business leaders, government leaders, fans, media … it’s what you’d expect, I guess. There is some very strong vitriol, and most of it comes from that scathing attack on STL as a viable market. I don’t see how Stan can show his face in Missouri again, not that he plans to.
Well, in a diabolical way that works ‘for’ him.
I mean, he can argue to the NFL that relations
are so poisoned and hostile now in St.Louis that
he cant possibly be expected to stay.w
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wvParticipantI didnt think he actually showed
that much before he got hurt.
I didnt see any special-talent shown
or an ability to win contested catches, etc.I dunno though. I wonder about Ray Sherman
and what his firing and replacement will mean
to the team. …maybe Ray is the reason
they chose Quick, who knows…w
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wvParticipantWell, he’s just kinda stating the obvious.
Nothing wrong with that.Heck i think Mack is harder on the NFL
than that guy.w
vJanuary 7, 2016 at 6:34 pm in reply to: 101, 1/7 … Mike Mayock (on playoffs & Foles), & Martz (on relocation & Rams O) #36775
wvParticipantMartz: “personnel is the life blood…….In today’s NFL the front office wants to micro manage… try to tell you who to hire…”
Martz may be remembering Jay Zygmunt
among other things.Martz emphasized his offense was much different
than the ‘spread’ offense popular today. He said
he likes what Sean Payton does in New Orleans…w
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wvParticipantwhere a Bonobo took care of a sick bird
and nursed it back to health,
thereby…proving…something.Bonobos tend to be more social and empathetic than chimps. Chimps, meanwhile, are aggressive and violent.
So what it proves is that bonobos evolved differently than chimps.
So then Chimps would make good special teams
coaches? Maybe the Rams have too many
bonobos ?w
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wvParticipantThey had 3 JT podcasts. I picked out good one.
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Well…now i have some inkling
of why they call them ‘pod’ casts.They just dont seem to be big on context,
analysis or nuances. They do love
to jump up and down and shout
“we didnt make the playoffs, again !”Very insightful.
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v curmudgeonJanuary 7, 2016 at 5:27 pm in reply to: Bucs fire Lovie, Coughlin resigns, which naturally leads to Fisher discussion #36768
wvParticipantI think they are going to trade Foles and draft Cook. Cook had a bad playoff game and is falling a bit. Treadwell’s draft status is probably linked to his 40 time at the combine. We should interview all the OCs that out coached GW.
Well, I think we’d all love a Foles trade-away.
But who is gonna want him? I mean would ‘you’
give a 7th round pick for him? I wouldn’t.I imagine the Rams would have to agree to pick
up half his salary or somethin.I dont want anymore players named Cook.
The last good cook who played in the NFL
was the Bengals Greg Cook. Now ‘there’
was an old-school football player.w
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wvParticipantTalk Radio is lowering my IQ,
audio, by audio, slowly, enexorably,
lowering me to a bonobo level.And Frank Cusomano wasn’t even
on that one.…btw, i saw a book review about a
book called Inner Ape or something like that,
where a Bonobo took care of a sick bird
and nursed it back to health,
thereby…proving…something.w
vJanuary 7, 2016 at 5:06 pm in reply to: Bucs fire Lovie, Coughlin resigns, which naturally leads to Fisher discussion #36764
wvParticipantI thought Fisher did a good job his first year here, but that must have been due to a weak schedule, because the team hasn’t done better since.
7-8-1
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7-9Now, if we look back at his days with the Oilers/Titans, he started out:
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8-8His fifth year was the turnaround. That was 1999. 13-3 and a trip to the Super Bowl thanks to that miracle special teams play. Then, one yard away from forcing OT for the championship.
So, maybe 2016-2017 is the season the Rams go back to the Super Bowl … if only they hang on to Fisher.
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Well, to go ‘that’ deep in the playoffs, he’s
gonna need someone as good as prime-Steve McNair.They can scratch and claw their way
to ten ugly wins with Keenum/Mannion….maybe they give the OC job to the Browns coach,
and then give a pick for Josh McCown. I dunno.w
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wvParticipantYeah, well, I don’t think he has any fans. I hope they don’t think that getting a new receivers coach is the answer. Pretty sure most of us just want the guy off the roster.
Yeah, no more David Lynch
tight ends.w
vJanuary 7, 2016 at 8:50 am in reply to: From the archives: Kroenke's pledge to keep the Rams in St. Louis #36749
wvParticipantSure, he’ll say that.
I would say that he attempted much harder to find a way to get to L.A. than he has to find a way to stay in St. Louis. He stopped taking phone calls from the STL Mayor and MO Governor. At the same time, he was working with Inglewood’s Mayor. I mean, people aren’t stupid. It’s easy to see through.
I just hope weasels like Kronky and Jerry Jones dont destroy the NFL
the way the rich-idiots in MLB have destroyed pro Baseball.w
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wvParticipantI’m just gonna go on predicting ten wins
every year. No-one can stop me.2016 — Ten Wins.
I also predict Kronky will drown in the ocean
under suspicious circumstances,
and a showgirl will inherit the Rams,
and she will move them to Vegas.w
vJanuary 6, 2016 at 11:07 pm in reply to: Bucs fire Lovie, Coughlin resigns, which naturally leads to Fisher discussion #36743
wvParticipantInteresting stat on the Steelers
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vhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/06/aj-mccarron-will-be-the-sixth-straight-backup-steelers-have-faced/
AJ McCarron will be the sixth straight backup Steelers have faced
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 6, 2016, 5:48 PM EST
Johnny Manziel, Arthur Moats APIf, as expected, the Bengals are forced to go with backup quarterback AJ McCarron on Saturday, it will be a familiar feeling for the Steelers’ defense: Playing backup quarterbacks has become the norm for Pittsburgh.
In fact, assuming Andy Dalton can’t go, Saturday’s game would be the sixth straight game in which the Steelers faced a backup on the other team.
On Sunday, the Steelers closed the regular season against Browns third-string quarterback Austin Davis. A week earlier the Steelers got the Ravens’ fourth quarterback, Ryan Mallett. The week before that, the Steelers got Broncos backup Brock Osweiler. The week before that, the Steelers got the Bengals and McCarron. The week before that, the Steelers got Colts backup Matt Hasselbeck.
The Steelers also faced Browns backup Johnny Manziel in Week 10, which means that counting McCarron on Saturday, Pittsburgh will have faced a backup in seven of its last eight games. Overall, the Steelers were 5-1 against backup quarterbacks this year and 5-5 against starters. They owe part of their position in the playoffs to bad luck befalling opposing teams’ quarterbacks.
January 6, 2016 at 10:48 pm in reply to: Kroenke Building Stadium No Matter What (relocation thread) #36740
wvParticipantI think a Rams move to LA might officially cure me of my addiction to this team. I’m a nomad so Stan’s actions don’t piss me off because he’s betraying St Louis. Stan just comes across as a giant hypocritical, asshole. The owner of my team doesn’t need to be a wonderful person, but I’d like his nastiness to at least remain hidden.
From what I understand, the Rams chose to release the report that trashes St Louis and cements my feelings. If true, that’s just mind boggling to me. I also find the part of the report talking about the decline in attendance offensive. How can anybody expect people to spend their money watching this team when they’ve been bad for so long? Haven’t the Rams continued to make money even though they have been a failure for the most part for over a decade?
Stan’s complaint about St Louis being a 2 sport town is not only a bad argument, but it’s also annoying or insulting or something. I’m also especially turned off by Stan’s previous comments that he would do his “damndest” to stay in St. Louis. Maybe his hypocrisy shouldn’t irritate me as much as it does, but it really bothers me.
Like most others, I already have demands on my time–3 small children in my case–that make following the team challenging at times. Now I feel like the enjoyment I get from the Rams will be further tainted by Kroenke. I feel like I’ll have a hard time divorcing the LA Rams from Stan the lying asshat.
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Well the Rams, like most major pro-teams,
have a line of billionaire-asshats that have owned
them. Read about Carroll Rosenbloom sometime, if
you wanna read about a total asshat. Do i need
to even mention Georgia and all the Nixonian,
unethical crap she pulled. And now we got
Mr corporate-sociopath-Kronky.Its much like the Game of Thrones.
Through it all though, despite the
Owners, there’s also been…Merlin, and Jack Y,
and Snow, and SJax…and Massey.w
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wvParticipantI think they’re running a Weak Coffee Offense. Could be wrong … I could use some stronger coffee today.
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Wobbly Cake Offense ?
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vJanuary 6, 2016 at 7:28 pm in reply to: From the archives: Kroenke's pledge to keep the Rams in St. Louis #36727
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From the archives: Kroenke’s pledge to keep the Rams in St. Louis
April 21, 2010 12:00 am“I’m going to attempt to do everything that I can to keep the Rams in St. Louis,” Kroenke said in a phone interview Tuesday night. “Just as I did everything that I could to bring the team to St. Louis in 1995. I believe my actions speak for themselves.”
…Kroenke said, “I’ll do my damnedest,” to secure the Rams’ future in St. Louis.
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“I’m born and raised in Missouri,” Kroenke said. “I’ve been a Missourian for 60 years. People in our state know me. People know I can be trusted. People know I am an honorable guy.”
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there was no pledge other than to ‘try’.
And in Kronky’s mind, I’m sure he would
say he “did his damndest” but St.Louis
wouldn’t give him a good deal.That’s what he’d say, right.
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wvParticipantI thought I would drop in to say hello. I hope this finds you all well and on your way to an epic 2016.
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Comrad Ozone. It has a nice ring to it 🙂
What do you have to say about this
last season. How would you sum it all up?w
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wvParticipantReally its not that much of a change. The RB coach. And the WR coach. The others were kinda minor coaches, right?
They keep Boudreau and Boras.
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vRB, WRx2, and ST. I want to see who he hires. btw, did you look at next year’s schedule? He had better find some good ones
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Well the Important thing to me,
is that NOW, we can start all-new conspiracy theories
about who nudged Fisher, and
why Fisher was forced at gunpoint to fire coaches,
and just How much did John Shaw have to do with this,
and what did the smoking man know,
and when did he know it….and what about all
those fields of corn…w
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wvParticipantReally its not that much of a change. The RB coach. And the WR coach. The others were kinda minor coaches, right?
They keep Boudreau and Boras.
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wvParticipantFwiw, DeFilippo runs a WCO.
There was a time when that would have bugged me. Never liked that horizontal passing game featuring quick outs and shallow crossing patterns. It’s the offense that brought the ‘pick play’ to football, which by all rights should be OPI. I’ve always been a fan of the Coryell offense even before the GSOT days.
But beggars can’t be choosers. I stopped caring how the Rams win a long time ago. I just want an offense that works and if Flip is their best hope for making that happen then I say hire him.
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I thot the ‘were‘ running a
Worst Coast Offense.I’ll be here all week.
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vJanuary 6, 2016 at 4:36 pm in reply to: Kroenke Building Stadium No Matter What (relocation thread) #36707
wvParticipantI’m wondering if somewhere along the way that SK felt disrespected in this process …
I really don’t know how L.A. fans like Joe could go through this type of thing and still follow the Rams so closely. If there’s anything that will keep me following, it could be this bunch of fans on this board right here. I can’t say that for sure, because honestly I get busy and I’m very stingy with my time.
And, really, as I get older, sports becomes less and less important to me. .. There are much worse things that can happen to you than to lose an NFL franchise (a second time).
I don’t think it’s a matter of disrespect with Stan. I don’t think anything is personal with him. It is all business. The man’s entire life has been business deals, making money. That’s what he does. He is one of those guys who is simply a Borg of Business. He is literally a Multi-national Corporation in human form. Corporations aren’t sentimental. St. Louis is simply a market. Los Angeles is a market. For Kroenkeco, Los Angeles is a better place to build Empire than St. Louis is. It is that simple.
And I agree with WV in the sense that his argument is entirely “legal” rather than emotional. There’s no name-calling or anything personal. It is “scorched earth” in the sense that he argues that St. Louis is entirely deficient as a marketplace. He doesn’t stop with just saying, “The dome isn’t 1st tier.” He wants to move. So he pulled out all the stops, and presented the most damning argument he could against St. Louis, and the most favorable argument he could towards his Inglewood project. If he pulled punches anywhere, it was on Carson.
And I fully agree with you on “time,” and on priorities. I have other things to do, too, things that matter. And sports…as much fun as they are…the longer I live, the more I am disappointed. My heart got broken on the scoreboard many times when I was a kid. And I saw my favorite players leave as free agents, and I saw rule changes I didn’t like, and traditions discarded, and the commodification of everything, and the price of paraphernalia and tickets skyrocket, and games get harder to watch on TV, and teams move away from loyal fans, and strikes, and lockouts, and replacement players, and it all just takes a toll. There are far, far more ways to be disappointed in sports than there are ways to find happiness. Only one team wins each year. Everyone else experiences some level of disappointment.
Bu you are certainly right when you say there are worse things that can happen to you.
I follow the Rams even when they are down, but if not for this band of brothers posting here, I wouldn’t spend as much time on them as I do.
You know, I think a lot of fans treat their fandom like a religion, and they cast disdain on “bandwagon” fans, and all that. I just am not wired that way. And I think all the disappointment in my teams, the owners, the management, the league, has just taught me that I should treat my loyalty the same way the owners treat their teams. I mean…Stan (and hosts of other owners before him) has shown he doesn’t care about the fans per se. Owners believe they don’t owe us anything. So I don’t see why we owe them anything. I don’t understand sports as religion. It’s a business arrangement. And if they provide a crappy product, I don’t have to give it my money. I’m NOT paying to watch the games, and I’m not paying $185 for a shirt that cost them $4 to make in China.
When the Rams left LA, I had to decide if I was dropping them as a fan or not. I, like other nomads, decided the zip code of their stadium wasn’t as important to me as the team and the history of it that I grew up with, and internalized. It was important, but not THAT important. To me. But “home” team was never a thing for me, since none of the teams I root for are local. Anyway, I just realized that the Rams are part of me. And I wasn’t going to let them take that from me. That was my decision. I just decided – as much as I didn’t want them to move – that geography was less important to me than other things.
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Ditto to all that, zooey.
I kinda wish fans would stop doin what they do.
I wish they’d stop paying ridiculous ticket prices.
Just stay the F### Home. And stop paying for all those
ridiculous tv-packages. And stop buying all the corporate
jerseys for a gazillion dollars. Etc.
Stop all the money-madness, and just…follow the team
without giving money to the corp-machine.But of course thats like saying don’t buy plastic
shit at Walmart — aint gonna happen.I could go on…. 🙂
Anyway, i enjoy the hell out of this small
group of posting-apes on this small planet,
in this swirling blazing galaxy, in this mysterious
dark void of space.w
vJanuary 6, 2016 at 2:08 pm in reply to: Kroenke Building Stadium No Matter What (relocation thread) #36704
wvParticipantStan has taken a scorched earth policy.
Yeah, he completely set fire to St. Louis, not just for the Rams, but he argues that it is a losing business proposition for any team.
I don’t know, of course, what the counterarguments are on the economic issues surrounding the stadium and the city, but he clearly burned every bridge behind him. Wow.
I don’t know what his Plan B is, but it isn’t St. Louis.
Well, i dunno shit about how stadium-corporate-Bizness
works, but maybe its not so much “scorched earth” language as much
as “the usual contract language” in cases like this. Ya know.I have no idea, what Mr Walmart really ‘feels’ about St.Louis.
My sense though…is that he would not even
care about…the Canolis.
wvParticipantThrough the first 15 games, I have the 49ers averaging 14.6 points per game, so…

(And they averaged 15.2 vs. non-Ram opponents)Ultimately, I’m just really tired of getting burned by dumpoff passes.
–Mike
Mike, I think i speak for everyone on this little board of outcasts, banned-posters, riff-raff, savages, and Ag,
when i say, we really appreciate all the work and the posts.Dont be a stranger.
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“The sight of human affairs deserves admiration and pity. And he is
not insensible who pays them the undemonstrative tribute of a
sigh which is not a sob, and of a smile that is not a grin.” Joseph ConradJanuary 6, 2016 at 10:05 am in reply to: Kroenke Building Stadium No Matter What (relocation thread) #36693
wvParticipantI think kroenke is getting desperate.
Well if you worked for the Anti-Christ
you might feel a little pressure, too.w
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wvParticipantI think it’s as simple as, if they have Gurley they win.
I agree, but it was a last place team they
were playing. So one would like to root for a team
that could beat a last place team even without Gurley.You see, i have danced circles around your
Gurley post.w
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wvParticipantBad play-calling day all around, particularly from Gregg Williams, who’s gotten off the hook, not even been on it, actually, all season despite a number of horrid play-calling games.
He has been out coached in a number of games.
16 points in four quarters
is not good enuff for you and Mike?Tough crowd.
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