Herzog wrote:

logically, I know you are right.

Logic is not on the forefront of my brain at the moment.

I hear ya.

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zn wrote:

wv wrote:

Natural grass though.

I;ve seen it argued that the Rams as they are now built are not as good on grass.

The defense for one is slower.

However, maybe the long national nightmare of endless OL injuries will go away.

I wonder how Gurley will like playing
in the Rain, and such.

Wonder what the Rams record is
over the last four years,
on grass?

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Well, I agree totally: fuck the Corporate-nfl.
Fuck the Billionaire-club.

But i hope Michael rejoins the
conversation again. He would
be missed.

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• This reply was modified 10 years, 3 months ago by wv.

My own personal feeling? …I grew up
watching the old blue-and-white Rams in LA.
The team in St.Louis wore red. And i liked the Cardinals
but they weren’t the Rams.

When i see the old Blue and White uniforms
i get the same feeling as when i open an old box
of Christmas cards that my mom has saved. Its like that.
Warm feelings. Childhood memories. Thats how i feel
when i see the blue and whites.

So, I’m glad they are returning to Los Angeles;
I KNOW now, finally, they will wear the blue and whites
from time to time. I really thought i’d never see that again.

I have so many warm and poignant memories — Jack Snow, Les Josephson,
Deacon/Merlin (thats one word btw :),
Youngbloods, George Allen, Cullen Bryant, Alvin Hammond, Bob Brown,
McCutcheon, Slater, Diron Talbot, Coy Bacon, Billy Waddy, Ferragamo’s pass, Prothro, Knox, Harold Jackson, The Vikings, Joe Kapp, The Cowboys, Staubach, The 49ers, Brodie…the St.Louis thing, just never ever felt quite right to me. Deep down it always felt a bit off….

…I know some of the St.Louis fans will stop following the team
and to state the obvious, thats fine. Everyone feels
‘connections’ to different things — some folks feel connected
to the city, some to the players, some to a coach, some to
the uniforms, etc. There’s no right or wrong to any of that,
obviously.

As for me…my own totally-subjective-irrational-feeling is…
…the Rams belong in blue and whites, in Los Angeles.
…and the red and white Cardinals belong in St.Louis.
Or maybe the Stallions belong in St.Louis. Something
belongs in St.Louis.

Georgia was a dick. Kronky is a dick. The NFL is a
soul-less-corporation. The ‘game’
and the conversation with the posters, about the game,
is still fun for me.

Back to Los Angeles. I like it. I’ll still be living out
the questions and throw’in things at the tv
in West, by god, Virginia 🙂

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Someone posted this on youtube :

InvaderRam wrote:

SD moving to LA is like the Rams moving to Columbia

yeah. not exactly like moving half way across the continent.

See he totally lost me with that.
I thought he meant Columbia the nation,
and… i was mulling that over.

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Dak wrote:

The most despicable part of this was SK’s scorching of STL on the way out. He was “a Missouri guy” dedicated to finding a way to stay in STL … until there was a chance to build a stadium in L.A. He’s poisoned the well here, and now all the owners know it would be a horrible situation in STL if he stays put with the Rams. The lack of fan support is a self-fulfilled prophecy. He’s such an asshole, though, that Spanos won’t play ball with him. It will take an extraordinary amount of carrot-and-stick diplomacy to get another owner to go in with SK on a deal. The guy has absolutely no ethics. He wants what he wants when he wants it.

I actually do think that the Raiders to St. Louis is a potential solution. There is just no way that Oakland’s using public funds, and the Raiders have been trying to get a new stadium for decades. I would say that, somehow, the Raiders could make use of the STL stadium plan.

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Well, I don’t think he’s any more of an asshole than Georgia
was. Or Rosenbloom. Or most of them ‘Owners.’

Georgia was a hero to a lot of St.Louis folk. Why?
Cause she screwed over the LA fans.

Kroenke is an asshole to a lot of St.Louis folk.
Cause he wants to move the team, just
like Georgia did — for more money.

I just think identifying with an ‘owner‘
is probly, maybe, not a good idea for fans.

I guess my point is — if Kroenke is an asshole,
so was Georgia. But i didnt hear St.Louis
fans saying “Georgia is an asshole for moving
the team away from LA, to St.Louis”

Ya know.

Owners are billionaire Cthulhus.

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They ain’t winning the NFC this year.
Somethin aint quite right with them this year.

The Vikes were mediocre and they barely escaped.

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zn wrote:

Word on Green Bay is that they not only miss Nelson, their OL has been very banged up. When guys are not out, they’re playing with injuries, and it looks out of sync. It’s like the 2014 Rams in that regard.

Washington, on the other hand, relies on its OL as a team strength, and their line is pretty healthy.

It’s the old story, and it’s why Cousins looks good and Rodgers doesn’t.

Well if it stays close, my money
is still on Rogers.

Point taken though. Earlier
in the year folks were arguing
that A.Rogers THE greatest QB of ALL TIME.
Not so much this last month.

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zn wrote:

I see that the Vikings handed back an unwanted win to Seattle.

It all comes down to making plays. Or, making them when you need them.

I am the one who came up with that cliche btw…so you heard it here first.

I was disappointed those two teams
didnt go into 47 overtimes with
both collapsing of physical exhaustion
and spiritual and existential ennui,
each player, giving up football
forever.

The Vikings have never been known
for winning the big game have they.

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Well I’m only gonna include QB’s I’ve
actually watched. So that starts in 68,
and leaves off the two greats from the 50s :

Tier 1 Kurt

Tier 2 Roman

Tier 3
T.Green, Everett, James Harris,
Jaworski, Ferragamo.

Bradford dont make the top three
tiers. Or Haden.

Roman’s is difficult to judge because,
he really didn’t have great WRs
or great RBs, like Kurt did. He might
belong in Tier 1…or Tier3. Hard to say.

If you start in the late 60’s like i did,
the Rams just dont have a Great, storied history
of QB play. You have Kurt…and then a bunch
of mediocre qbs, and some pretty good ones. But
it aint like Joe Montana, Steve Young, John Brodie…

RB’s and Defensive Players looks better.
Probably the best group is the OLinemen.
Lots of great OLinemen.

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• This reply was modified 10 years, 3 months ago by wv.

I dunno. I dont think it was
much different than the hit by
the Ram DB on the Viking QB.
I think its a penalty for sure
but I suspect its one of those split-second
micro ‘decisions’ thats not really a decision,
exactly. Just instinct. Competitive instinct.

Still its a penalty for sure. Coulda
killed the guy.

That one will be shown in meetings for
decades. What not to do.

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Well, lotsa folks seem to think he’s
a great offensivie Mind.
We’ll see if he’s a leader of men.

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Fascinating. Its like a mini-series.
Like Shogun or somethin.

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