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  • in reply to: Samatha Bee on Trump and GOP racism. #48166
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    Forgetting the election for a moment…is there any
    hope for the diminishing or eradication of racism/jingoism/fundamental-superstition-ism ?

    I mean millions of amerikans are drenched from day-one
    in racism/jingoism/superstition. I mean, its not just in a few magazines
    laying around the house — they are drenched, inundated, surrounded and drowned in racism-jingoism-superstition.

    This is a common refrain from many of my clients:
    Q: How did you get involved in the Aryan Brotherhood?
    A: Oh, grand-daddy was in it, Daddy was in it, when i was eight years old
    i went to all the bar-b-ques and stuff….its just all Ive known. Its my family.

    How and why does ‘that’ happen?

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    in reply to: Herd board is down…I have a link to updates #48131
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    Damn. Well, i suppose if a board is gonna blow up this is the best time of year for a meltdown. Not much goin on.

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    JamesJM
    7/6/2016 10pm Update

    The situation is not good.

    The server is back up and running but all data is gone, perhaps forever. Two SSD Drives, against all odds, failed… the main SSD Drive and our backup SSD Drive.

    If you try to access the site you’ll get a 404 error.. which means it’s running again but there is no data as yet. Troy is working to get an “Under Construction” page up to notify everyone about the problem. This blog isn’t reaching everyone and in fact is reaching a very, VERY small percentage of Herd Members.

    Again… please pass along this information to any Herd Members you can reach.
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    in reply to: UK's Iraq War report could make grim reading #48091
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    Vid, fwiw:

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    … You have to have the star players and you have to have good cheap talent available to make it work.

    I will contend that the real secret to maintaining a good roster is good drafting..

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    Well true. but “good drafting” and the ability to figure out who
    is going to be “good” cheap talent,
    aint easy apparently.

    And we’ll see how long Seattle can continue to do it. A couple of years from now, we may be reading articles about how Seattle lost its magic touch. Ya know.

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    in reply to: UK's Iraq War report could make grim reading #48075
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    And to keep side-tracking, part of what interests me about this is how much WE said here(ish) as a group turned out to be just dead on. It was a great group effort of inter-educating. Better even than anything I had around me in the real world, though ostensibly my real world comrades should have been on top of things (they really weren’t though).

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    Well just so you know, I am not reading a 2.6 million-word report.

    I would be willing to read a condensed Haiku
    version, though.

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    in reply to: 6 greatest Rams head coaches of all time #48030
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    I dont think they’ve had six ‘great’ ones.

    DV counts as one.

    Maybe someone from the 50’s teams. Thats before my time though.

    They’ve had some ‘good to very good’ ones, of course.
    George Allen comes to mind. Maybe J. Robinson. Knox was ‘good’.
    Those three built some fine defenses. Kinda one-dimensional on offense for most of their years. Course Robinson brought in Zampese and the offense changed.

    It would not surprise me at all if Fisher ends up being considered in the “good to very good” range. Thing is, that means he wont have won a Ring.

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    in reply to: UK's Iraq War report could make grim reading #48029
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    Well I assume it will follow the usual blueprint. They will find that “mistakes were made”.

    “well-meaning but flawed leaders tried to bring democracy to barbarians but failed”.

    I assume that will be the major-meme. Ya know. The mainstream-vietnam-meme all over again.

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    in reply to: any Game of Thrones guys here? #48026
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    .. If you moved through time on one of these worlds everything would be the same no matter how far back or how far forward in time you traveled. So don’t expect anyone to come along with any new fangled ideas about democracy or the redistribution of wealth and power.

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    Well, my complaint stands. Capitalist-Fantasy-writers write stories
    about feudalism-worship and monarchy-worship. And they dont have to.
    They just do.

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    in reply to: FBI says no charges for Hildabeast #47941
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    It’s a good thing for you that you are not a federal prosecutor. The claim that a deletion of gov’t emails in and of itself is a crime would immediately be thrown out of court and you might be looking for other work. What is a crime is when the emails at issue are intentionally deleted with the purpose in mind to conceal evidence or to hinder an investigation. As the FBI Director stated there is no evidence than any of the thousands of deleted emails -both personal and work related-were deleted with such a purpose in mind. You can surmise and opine about the reasons why emails were deleted but prosecutions are based on factual evidence not opinion and or speculation.

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    Well, do you think it will cost her a significant amount of VOTES ?

    I mean the amerikan public will get to decide if the email thing matters to them.

    Will it?

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    Trump has been out front in promoting women and minorities yet he’s constantly called a racist. Thats why.

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    OK, i get where you are coming from. And fwiw, I am not one of the ones banging the “trump is a racist” drum. I suspect he is much more of a “nationalist” than a racist. But then Nationalism is as loathsome to me as racism.

    I think we will see all kinds of stories about Trump NOT being a racist because he hired a new PR guy a coupla weeks ago, and his new handlers are trying to repackage him as ‘kinder and gentler’ and more sensitive. Its typical political crappolla, and it may or may not work.

    I’d like to see Trump judged solely on his POLICIES btw. I dont get into the “hes a racist” and “he’s a sexist” stuff. I do think there’s “something” there, but I think he’s a mixed bag on race/sex stuff.

    I think you will agree, Trumps biggest problem is to expand outside his “white male” base. He’s gonna have to convince some women and minorities he’s not a sexist/racist.

    What do you think of Trumps recent conversion to evangelical-jesus-luv ? Surely, you dont buy into that ?

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    in reply to: Interesting Article Bit #47936
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    Flowers are born to die. Always.

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    Indeed. Nature kills everything,
    sooner or later.

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    “Nature is pitiless; she never withdraws her flowers, her music, her fragrance,
    and her sunlight from before human cruelty or suffering.”
    — Victor Hugo (Quatrevingt-Treize)

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    Now now lets just drag that timeline forward 100 years since the democrats were flagrantly racist in the 1950s too. Sen. Byrd wasn’t alone in your state.

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    Absolutely. The Duplicat Party and Replicant Party were both full
    of racists.

    I can focus on both. Why do you only focus on half of the problem?

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    Well, even if one enters the reality-tunnel of that writer, and even if one tries to find some logic in his article, it doesn’t demonstrate that Trump is not a racist. I mean, for example, one could love Jews and still be anti-muslim, right?

    Also this: “…the American Left was on-record supporting slavery, segregation, lynching and, as noted by historians…”

    Linking the so-called ‘left’ to slavery and lynching is kinda meaningless because it lacks any context. I mean in the 1850’s you had all kinds of mainstream people supporting slavery. It wasn’t a ‘left vs right’ thing. And in the 1910’s and 20’s you had plenty of Dems and plenty of Reps supporting lynching of minorities. It wasn’t a ‘left vs right’ thing. It was an American thing.

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    Confirmation Bias…. It isn’t a debate..

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    Well….right. Not a debate. So, in my case, I adopt different posting styles for different situations.

    And it raises posting-questions…if its not a ‘debate’ what is it? And what can it be? Whats the best we can hope for on a pol-message-board, and how do we get there? Etc, and so forth.

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    “You have come to the shore. There are no instructions.”
    Denise Levertov

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    …still wont make a dent in the
    political situation, coz people are afraid.

    Actually.

    More than one study has shown that fear of crime leads to increased backing for gun control.

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    Yeah, i’ve read that argument, but i dont buy it. Though I dont discount it either. I think its complicated.

    I think fear of crime leads to all kinds of things, including cognitive dissonance. I think it leads to some people wanting some forms of gun control. But i also think it leads some people to want hand-guns in the home. Etc and so forth.

    I dont think its as simple as “fear of crime leads to more folks wanting gun control”.

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    in reply to: FBI says no charges for Hildabeast #47918
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    It is easy to imagine, given what we know about Dick Cheney and other White House operatives applying thumb screws across the street to get what they wanted when they fabricated reasons for the Iraq War. Applying pressure is what these guys do. The Clintons didn’t get where they are without some arm-twisting along the way.

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    Well, the FBI has a long long history of acting in utterly political ways,
    because of political pressure. I recently listened to an old audio-book in my car
    by Bob Woodward (whom i cant stand). It was his book about deep-throat, who was
    the guy who was 2nd in command at the FBI during the Nixon/Watergate years.
    (Deep throat far from being a freedom-of-the-press soldier was a great admirer of J.Edgar Hoover, btw) Anyway, Woodward, the former Navy guy, and former Republican was hardly an FBI-basher, but he made it very clear the organization was a matrix of contested ground between the “political” vs “professional”

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    in reply to: Interesting Article Bit #47917
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    “…LeftLand and RightLand are housemates who are no longer on speaking terms. And then the house is set on fire. By Donald Trump. Good people from both subnations gape at one another through the smoke.”

    Well, fwiw, i think he’s got some things right. At least loosely, in general. There ‘are’ indeed some major chasms out there betwixt some groups, and there is virtually no chance of communication between some members of those groups.

    But I dont think “leftland” and ‘rightland’ are the only two kingdoms out there.
    There’s a lot more kingdoms than that and there is all kinds of complex, layered overlaps. Lots of venn diagram kingdoms of different sizes and colors.

    Generally speaking that writer seems to be noticing only Dem-land and Rep-land, it seems to me.

    Plus, Trump did not start the house-fire. Thats a dead giveaway that the guy is in Dem vs Rep mode. The fire was started by…corporate-capitalism? Nixon? The Santa Clara case? The conquest of indigenous peoples by the Europeans? Industrial Revolution? WWI ? WWII? The big bang? I mean where did the ‘fire’ start? Any single place you point to, is pretty arbitrary in my view.

    Crazy times on earth.

    Do you have a garden Zooey, or do you hate flowers? We shoot flowers with our
    semi-automatic weapons here in wv-land. Just to watch them die.

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    in reply to: any Game of Thrones guys here? #47886
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    I watched the last few episodes of the latest season of GOT.

    I must say, it was purty-damn-good.

    In the second-to-last show, that battle scene was
    claustrophobic. The film-makers did a fine job of making the viewer
    feel squished and squashed and hopeless.

    I also thought the special effects involving the dragons in the last
    episode were really impressive.

    My only complaint (which i made to a fantasy-loving-friend of mine, and I also made the complaint about Star Wars…)
    is more ‘political’ than anything else. I wish George Martin (or substitute any fantasy writer, film-maker) would have added a faction, or tribe, or kingdom, or family that stood for democratic-socialism. Ya know. I mean all that “Yay for the good King” and “Yay for the bad King” stuff makes me grit my teeth every time.
    I’ve said all this before, blah blah blah…

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    Concealed Carry Permit Holders Are Killing People, But Not In Self Defense

    Even more telling, more than 97 percent of the 763 deaths caused by someone with a concealed carry permit were not related to self defense in any way.

    They’ve also killed nearly as many police officers as they have “bad guys with guns.” Concealed carry permit owners have shot and killed 17 law enforcement officers, compared to the 21 people they shot in self-defense.

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    Well ‘that’ was full of powerful stuff.

    Very interesting facts. If they are true.

    …still wont make a dent in the
    political situation, coz people are afraid.
    Crocodile brain is gonna trump mammal brain
    almost every time, i think…

    Big-scary-Guns lead to deaths/shootings,
    Deaths/shootings lead to fear,
    Fear leads to wanting-more-guns.

    I just dont see any way out of that
    there screwed-up dynamic.

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    http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/30/concealed-carrier-prevents-mass-shooting-at-south-carolina-nightclub/

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    “…Some might validly argue that the suspect’s intent in the Lyman nightclub incident (and whether the event fit a given definition of “mass shooting”) is irrelevant; all that matters is that a legally armed citizen was able to intervene in a shooting in progress and thereby possibly prevented additional injury (or even loss of life). That may be true, but in the absence of additional details about the event, unequivocally stating that a “mass shooting” was prevented is problematic….”

    Enh. I dont care whether it was defined as a ‘mass shooting’ or not.

    It is a case of one gun-carrier stopping another gun-carrier.

    People will, of course, interpret that scenario to mean different things….

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    in reply to: all or nothing #47869
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    Well thats just hilarious. And weird.
    I’m not sure i believe it.

    I’m ready to start a revolution over the parking situation here
    in WV btw. Used-to-be, each rugged individual here, would pull into his or her own space, and and we’d have our own rugged individual parking meter. Everyone got their own meter.

    Then the corporate-computer people came.
    And now, you pull into a space, and
    there aint no individual meters anymore. You gotta go stand in line
    and put money in the robot-computer-terminator-artificial-intelligence thing
    at the end of the parking lot.

    I have a right to my own parking meter. Its in the Constitution.

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    in reply to: garden pics #47868
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    Phase 2.b

    Astilbe & hostas.

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    I do not like Astilbes. I just want you to know that.

    Now i dont want any trouble. I mean the last thing we need
    is another deadly, rancorous, malignant Asbilbe thread.

    But i do not like them.

    I dont think the Comanches liked them either.

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    in reply to: sorry we lost the "Kankuamo marquezi" thread #47865
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    No, it was me. I don’t know what I did but I have trouble maneuvering through the site when on my cell phone. All I know is one moment I was looking at the thread and the next it was gone.

    Or it could have been one of the other mods trying to set me up.

    They are a shiftless, ruthless lot who are not above framing a peer for personal gain. They are like the Loki to my Thor.

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    Well, I dont think either Loki or Thor could stand up to
    a giant radiated Guacamole Marquezi spider, once it got its urticating butt hairs
    all inflamed. Just so you know. This is science, I’m talkin about.

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    …it jabs its butt bristles, or urticating hairs, straight into its foes.
    “Urticating hairs are used as defense against natural enemies,” Carlos Perafán, a biologist from the University of the Republic in Uruguay, said in an email. “These hairs are different from hairs covering the body of tarantulas because they have a penetrating tip, which allows the hair to embed in the skin or mucous membranes and cause irritation….”

    in reply to: how Minnesota did it #47831
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    Interesting.

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    in reply to: Happy Fourth of July #47828
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    Thanks, Nittany. Good article. That’s PZ Myers, correct? If memory serves, he’s really good on the topic of creationism versus evolution.

    Yeah, he’s a biology professor who is a leading figure in organized atheism, skepticism, feminism and social justice. He writes well and I usually agree with his opinions on stuff. He is not liked by many in the atheist community though. He often openly disagrees with the giants of organized atheism like Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris for their Islamophobic rantings and he attacks organized atheism for its anti-feminist leanings (there are a lot of MRAs and libertarians in movement atheism). So there is an angry rift between those that think the atheist community should embrace social justice causes and those who don’t.

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    Why would atheists be anti-feminist?

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    in reply to: Happy Fourth of July #47827
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    Jeffrey Amhurst wiki
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffery_Amherst,_1st_Baron_Amherst

    Biological warfare involving smallpox

    One of the most infamous and well documented issues during Pontiac’s War was the use of biological warfare against the Native Americans. The suggestion was posed by Amherst himself in letters to Colonel Henry Bouquet.[20] Amherst, having learned that smallpox had broken out among the garrison at Fort Pitt, and after learning of the loss of his forts at Venango, Le Boeuf and Presqu’Isle, wrote to Colonel Bouquet:[21]

    Could it not be contrived to send the small pox among the disaffected tribes of Indians? We must on this occasion use every stratagem in our power to reduce them.

    Bouquet, who was already marching to relieve Fort Pitt, agreed with this suggestion in a postscript when he responded to Amherst just days later on 13 July 1763:[22]

    P.S. I will try to inocculate [sic] the Indians by means of Blankets that may fall in their hands, taking care however not to get the disease myself. As it is pity to oppose good men against them, I wish we could make use of the Spaniard’s Method, and hunt them with English Dogs. Supported by Rangers, and some Light Horse, who would I think effectively extirpate or remove that Vermine.

    In response, also in a postscript, Amherst replied:[22]

    P.S. You will Do well to try to Innoculate [sic] the Indians by means of Blankets, as well as to try Every other method that can serve to Extirpate this Execrable Race. I should be very glad your Scheme for Hunting them Down by Dogs could take Effect, but England is at too great a Distance to think of that at present.

    Historians Elizabeth Fenn and Benedict Kiernan have shown, “Fort Pitt had anticipated these orders. Reporting on parleys with Delaware chiefs on June 24, a trader [William Trent] wrote: ‘[We] gave them two Blankets and an Handkerchief out of the Small Pox Hospital. I hope it will have the desired effect.’ The military hospital records confirm that two blankets and handkerchiefs were ‘taken from people in the Hospital to Convey the Smallpox to the Indians.’ The fort commander paid for these items, which he certified ‘were had for the uses above mentioned.’ Historian Elizabeth Fenn has documented ‘the eruption of epidemic smallpox’ among Delaware and Shawnee Indians nearby, about the time the blankets were distributed.”[23][21]
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    Seven Years’ War in North America: The French and Indian War, St. Lawrence and Mohawk theater

    Amherst was summoned home, ostensibly so that he could be consulted on future military plans in North America, and was replaced pro tem as Commander-in-Chief, North America by Thomas Gage. Amherst expected to be praised for his conquest of Canada, however, once in London, he was instead asked to account for the recent Native American rebellion.[24] He was forced to defend his conduct, and faced complaints made by William Johnson and George Croghan, who lobbied the Board of Trade for his removal and permanent replacement by Gage. He was also severely criticised by military subordinates on both sides of the Atlantic.[25] Nevertheless, Amherst was promoted to lieutenant-general on 26 March 1765,[26] and became colonel of the 3rd Regiment of Foot in November 1768.[27]
    On 26 March 1767 Jeffrey Amherst married Elizabeth, daughter of General George Cary (Joshua Reynolds, 1767)
    Jeffrey Amherst, 1st Baron Amherst

    On 22 October 1772, Amherst was appointed Lieutenant-General of the Ordnance,[28] and he soon gained the confidence of George III, who had initially hoped the position would go to a member of the Royal Family.[29] On 6 November 1772, he became a member of the Privy Council.[30]

    American Revolutionary War
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    in reply to: sorry we lost the "Kankuamo marquezi" thread #47823
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    It was an accident. I just learned about it. We will try to restore it, but if that doesn’t work, I will try copying it and reposting it. Sit tight, not sure how long this will take.

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    I blame the centrists.

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    “And now,” cried Max, “let the wild rumpus start!”
    — Maurice Sendak (Where the Wild Things Are)

    in reply to: The rising polarization of our beliefs #47753
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    You know, politics and religion are not conducive to polite society.

    Wait, we don’t live in a polite society anymore. Intolerant hugs and cretins from both sides dominate the floor.

    So, the question begs…Are you ready for some football? 🙂

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    Ready for football? Oh yeah. Though I have no idea what the won/lost record is gonna look like this year. Goff is a rookie-mystery.

    Btw, I assume that was a typo “Intolerant hugs”. But i liked it. I like that sentence:

    “Intolerant hugs,
    and Cretins, from both sides,
    dominate the floor.”

    There’s just something weird and salvadore-dali-ish about
    the image that sentence creates in my brain.
    I would have liked to have seen a Dali painting of the US Congress.
    Or maybe Bosch.

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    in reply to: Kankuamo marquezi #47752
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    … We aren’t ‘meant’ to be here. Like every other species that has ever existed, we just got lucky.

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    I would not agree with that. My own view is more ‘agnostic-ish.’
    I’d say we dont/cant ‘know’ if life/world/universe was ‘meant to be here.’

    My own view of fundamental questions like that is “its a mystery”

    btw, fwiw, ayahuasca told me once,
    that the Universe and the Rams were meant to be here. You gonna argue with ayahuasca?

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    in reply to: Why trump is Routing the Free Traders #47706
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    Well, it will be interesting to observe the ‘reactions’ to the new President.
    What will be the reaction/results of four years of Trump, or Hillary?
    Will they galvanize a new opposition force?
    And which one will ‘get the most done’ whatever that may be…?

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