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wv wrote:

Well, I thot he spent a lot of words just to say
“the needle is pointing up” for the Rams.

And i agree, it is.

Why do you think it is pointing up?

Not that I disagree. I agree. But, I want to hear what others say about it. And, I trust my comrades on the board to make it more interesting than the Fan Blog Sites do.

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Well, i could answer that but lets face it, we are all repeating ourselves at this point. And i mean on ALL the boards all over the internetz.

Its just that time of year.

Now if you wanna talk about ram UNIFORMs, Brenda Warner’s Legacy,
or why Cleveland Gary wasn’t traded to Cleveland,
than I will write powerful words, with sentences as dense as cicada swarms, pregnant with dizzying images rivaling Thomas Kinkade paintings in their nuanced and enigmatic patterns.

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TSRF wrote:

Driving to Phippsburg, ME tomorrow for the family vacation. No Internet access (at least, that’s what I told my boss). Going to try and stay off the Internet and just enjoy my time with my family.

Do try and get along…

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…’going to…stay off the inter-net’….What is this “off the Internet” reality you believe in? The internet is the known-universe. It is the appropriate reality-tunnel to adopt. What place are you from, stranger?

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zn wrote:

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Rams may soon be the NFC West team to beat

Steve Rivera

That was unreadable. Yet I read it. I read it so I could verify it was unreadable. Right now, most Rams news is of the Fan Blog Masquerading As Sports Journalism Site variety.

The LA press has gone entirely to sleep.

There’s nothin out there. Itza desert.

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Well, I thot he spent a lot of words just to say
“the needle is pointing up” for the Rams.

And i agree, it is.

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Billy_T wrote:

Again, let’s clear the air. If you don’t believe I’m telling the truth here, ignore me. Just ignore me. Or keep your suspicions to yourself. But if this were my site — it’s not, of course — next time you called someone a liar, you’d be banned.

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Well, i wish you BOTH would ignore EACH OTHER.

Thats my, single, solitary, honest opinion. I dont think either of you
are handling each other in a way that makes the board a better place.
There are ways to handle fundamental-core-differences. I can post with bnw all day, everyday, and there wont be any shit-storms. Same with others…

Bnw is the outlier here. He’s the only Trump supporter he’s the only Pat Buchannon supporter. So, he’s always gonna be…oh….kinda ‘ganged up on’ around here. Same goes for Waterfield, probly. So, knowing that, I think it would be cool if the majority-leftists would give’em both a break. Which does not mean giving up principles, yada yada. Just means, among other things…roll with things. Use humor. Figure out when arguing is utterly totally POINTLESS and where its not.

There is no earthly reason why we all cant ‘essentially’ write what we want, but then when things OBVIOUSLY get to an ugly point, agree to disagree, and then forget it like a good cornerback, and move on.

I’m mildly vexed by shit-storms on my board, so….stop it.

Its a lovely, warm sunny day in WV. Time to stake some tomatoes,
hike in the appalachian woods, pee on a tree-stump, and eat some
bar-b-qued vegetables in foil and olive oil…the world is fucked gentlemen. Pull up a lawn chair, and a good book, and ponder the mystery 🙂

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Zooey wrote:

I heard on the radio this morning a couple of hosts talking about a guy who accosted Izzy Azalea – whoever that is – at an airport terminal. He approached her (him? Her, I think) and recorded the encounter, asking, “Are you Izzie Azalea?” and she said, “Yes, I am,” or something in a polite and friendly way, and he says, “How does it feel to have single-handedly ruined hip-hop?”

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Iggy. Not Izzy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iggy_Azalea
“Amethyst Amelia Kelly (born 7 June 1990),[1] known professionally as Iggy Azalea (/əˈzeɪljə/), is an Australian rapper, songwriter, and model…Azalea joined The Beatles as the only acts to rank at numbers one and two simultaneously with their first two Hot 100 entries.[3]…”

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waterfield wrote:

Given our discussions re left, moderate, and right I found this article interesting. Growing up in the 50s I don’t recall the “hate” that I see today in the different ideologies. Sometimes I think it began during the Viet Nam war. Remember: “those good for nuttin long haired hippies”, etc. Maybe now with talk shows and social media fueling our unrest and worries it’s only natural. Wish it were not.

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I think zn’s right — the fractures were there, in the 50’s but things were hidden from a lot of people. (for one thing there wasnt 24/7 media, etc)

Leftists were abused, lynched, beaten and tossed in prison in the WWI times. (Eugene Debbs is the star example).
Leftists were also ‘mccarthied’ during the WWII era and in the 50s.

Things are a lot ‘better’ now for leftists in some respects.

I dunno, but maybe for mainstream Dems and mainstream Reps things are now more ugly and rancorous. Maybe thats changed. Maybe Reps and Dems feel like they are farther apart. I dunno.

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Billy_T wrote:

It is incredibly depressing. Clinton or Trump.

You guys may well be right that Trump won’t be quite as bad. But I just don’t trust him to be not as bad. I think he’s going to be every bit under pressure from the neocons as Clinton, and his own rabid fans endlessly say “America needs to get tough,” and all too many of their political rallies just smell like German Beer-hall putsches to me.

This election seems to be a choice between losing your arm or losing your leg.

Futile or not, I’m voting for Stein.

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Its not that he “wont be as bad” exactly. Its more weird and nuanced than that, I’d say.

He will be a very very mixed bag, I’d guess. Worse than Hillary in some ways, Equal to Hillary in some ways, and better than Hillary in some ways.

Its like….oh…Hillary is like the Jack Nicholson version of The Joker.
And Trump is the Heath Ledger version of The Joker.

I mean, which was worse? Well, Nicholson was more consistently evil, but Ledger was more unpredictably evil. I think. Maybe. …maybe Hillary is more like Magneto….then again, Trump may be more like King Kong, and Hillary is more like Godzilla…..these are difficult times..

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Zooey wrote:

http://inthesetimes.com/article/18998/neocon-war-hawks-want-hillary-clinton-over-donald-trump.-no-surprisetheyve

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That was like a who’s-who of evil, lining
up for her.

Man, they like her more than i thought, too.

“the warrior queen”

Lord.

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Billy_T wrote:

that pretty much encapsulates what i think of life.

you’re right too. i wouldn’t WANT to see this planet destroyed. can’t punish other living things for our mistakes.

i do think what will ultimately happen is the rise of the machines type scenario where robots become sentient and become the dominant life form on this planet. but it won’t be a violent uprising like the terminator. and then they will live in the peaceful communist regime billy_t has been yearning for. hahahaha!

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Communist sentient-machines?

Well damn. What about football? What about the Rams?

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“In fact, I suspect that our only hope is disaster. Cruel tho’ it is to say it, there has got to be a vast die-off in the human population — likely including us and our families — before the survivors find themselves in a world where a new and humble and ‘religious’ adaptation with nature is possible. Disaster is not necessary; the better world could be achieved through reason and common sense and a sense of fellowship — but most of the present human world is dead set against us…” Edward Abbey, Postcards from Ed: Dispatches and Salvos from an American Iconoclast

waterfield wrote:

< To get where you want do we just abandon the Constitution and simply start all over? I assume you would agree that is not in the works. If not then what do we do? My answer is we do the best we can to keep the wolves at bay. I mean what else can we do?

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Well, who knows.

I would say, in general you can always fight a multi-front-war. You can TRY to educate and organize like-minded folks for real core fundamental revolutionary change, using the internet or whatever.

But that doesn’t rule out practical, incremental, ‘reform’ activities where you join groups and vote for ‘relatively progressive’ policies, etc.
You do what you can do. Case by case. Issue by issue. Policy by Policy.
“Widening the cage” as, I think Chomsky called it.

For you that would mean helping Hillary. For someone else it would mean helping Jill….etc.

There’s the broad ‘vision’ work. And there’s the “start where we are” reform work. Maybe. I dunno.

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Is he worth it?

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Zooey wrote:

He’s rotating.

The liberals who murdered him put him on a spit, and buried him in a grill.

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He tastes like chicken.

Just so you know.

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