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wvParticipantGMOs are done solely for profit. The profit comes from the patent for the identified gene used to “modify” the seed. I don’t believe the long term consequences of GMOs on human health or the environment are fully known but the FDA has always considered us consumers to be unpaid lab rats.
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Ok but notice what you did there — you blamed the FDA (government) and left out the blame
of the private sector (Corporations).So, i give you half credit for that answer 🙂
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vwvParticipantMy take is different. The host came out and said the election was rigged by the media in favor of Clinton. To me, that’s absurd and has no connection with reality. It also tells us a lot about the biases of the show itself.
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first time we’ve disagreed in a while 🙂
I think the MSM is completely totally utterly cheerleading for Hillary. To me its just jaw-droppingly blatent. And as you know i loathe Hillary and Trump so I’m not yer usual complainer about the ‘liberal media blah blah’.
From NPR the networks to the comedians — everyone i see/hear on the MSM is cheerleading for Hillary.
So, i agree with the host of that show, though I’m not sure i’d use the word ‘rigged’. I might, i might not, i dunno.
Course Trump has rightwing talk-radio, and Fox, i guess, so its not like the Righties dont have their megaphone.
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vwvParticipantThis is a cut above anything u will see in the mainstream corporate American media.
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vwvParticipantYeah, that rings true to me, too.
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Yeah and if you read posts by people that like trump, they REALLY
WANT him to be a ‘brick through the window’. They want/need it so bad,
that they are convinced that a Billionaire-lying-weasel is a ‘good thing’.
They WANT to believe in him SO much. Cause they HATE the system so MUCH.Thats how bad ‘the situation’ is.
Course if he were to win, a LOT of the trumpies would go through what many of
the true-Obama-believers have gone through — disillusionment.w
vwvParticipantWell, he must be good to get himself hired so many times.
And he must be bad to get himself fired so many times.w
vwvParticipantHow many teams has Norv broken up with now?
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vwvParticipantI didnt read it all, but i read about half of it. Very interesting.
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vwvParticipantHa. That was purty awesome. Reminded me of “Deer Hunting with Jesus” by Joe Bageant.
Lottsa truth in that article.
No ‘answers’ offered though.
Trump is indeed a ‘brick through the fucking window’. I think ‘X’ and bnw would go along with that description. As well as us ole leftists
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vwvParticipantI didnt realize or remember that the Humphrey vs Nixon vote was so close. I guess it was very very close.
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vwvParticipantDespicable.
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Yup. Totally.But so is Trump and the Repugnants. Sigh.
Jill Stein is my pick, dude. Yall can waste yer votes on the corrupt twosome all
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vwvParticipantwho knows if it’s even true, but multiple female comics have come forward.
his male comic friends have protected him. female comics are supposedly afraid to speak up for fear of repercussions.
if multiple sources are talking about this, i don’t know… and he isn’t exactly denying it either.
http://defamer.gawker.com/louis-c-k-will-call-you-up-to-talk-about-his-alleged-s-1687820755
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Sigh.OK, nobody ever tell me if George Carlin did bad shit. Lets all make a pact — Nobody say anything to WV RAM if the internet finds out George Carlin was a creep.
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vwvParticipanti’ve gotten really down on louis ck ever since i found out he quite possibly could have sexually assaulted multiple women and coerced them into watching him masturbate.
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Damn. I havent heard anything about that.First Cosby, now this?
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vwvParticipantWell, in a perfect world, the debates would have been between Bernie, Jill Stein, Rand Paul, and Mike Pence. Gary Johnson just doesn’t do it for me, so I uninvited him.
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I would add Lassie, myself.
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vwvParticipantBilly loathes Hillary, X. Just so you know. Not sure you know that.
I didn’t.
I was just giving my opinion based on the only two realistic choices.
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Yeah, I think we ALLLL prettymuch loathe Hillary on this board,
cept Waterfield.Waterfield’s role is to like Hillary 🙂
Most of us are old lefties. Lefties not Democrats. Bernie types. Jill Stein types. That sort of thing.
Course some folks here are gonna vote for Hillary as a less-evil thing cause they dont like Trump. But that aint the same as believing in Hillary.
Years ago, in another galaxy, on another board, the regulars here had long drawn-out, abstruse, convoluted, discussions on just what the difference is between traditional democrat-liberals…and what most of us were. …we settled on the label “leftists” btw, to distinguish ourselves from DNC Democrats or mainstream-democrat-liberals, etc.
To us ‘leftist’ does NOT mean Democrat or Hillary lover or Obama lover etc. We iz Waaaay different than that.
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vwvParticipantTrump lied to investigators for years and years. And he shredded court-ordered documents back before we had email, and then thousands of emails when that tech hit. If this is important to you when it comes to Clinton, it should be the same when it comes to Trump:
Is he currently under investigation and in danger of being impeached or indicted after he’s elected? I know he’s a dirty player. I know they ALL are. That’s the difference between you and me. I’m not trying to find a Saint in this wasteland of scumbags. I’m trying pick the WAY lesser of two evils and trying to elect the candidate who will be the equivalent of a Molotov Cocktail in Washington. I want change. I want disruption. I represent a vast majority of people who are sick and tired of the status quo, and who are sick and tired of dirty politics, and who are sick and tired of being bullshitted right to our faces about how we get to keep our doctor, and keep our plan, and how everything’s gonna be allllllllllllllright. I’d also like to throw a big middle finger up to the liberal media who has CLEARLY demonstrated a bias during this whole campaign.
To quote George Carlin, “I root for the tornado.”
Brace yourself. It’s either gonna destroy everything, or clear a path to a better future.
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Billy loathes Hillary, X. Just so you know. Not sure you know that.w
vwvParticipantWait a minute. Did you not READ the terms of this board? It clearly states that bnw is the authorized, official Trump supporter.
Thats his role. You think you can just come in here and stomp all over someone’s
authorized official ROLE?I might have to sue.
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vI’m a reluctant Trump supporter (and just voted for him 10 minutes ago). I also don’t really identify with any particular party, though I am right-leaning. Kinda just try to find my way through the labyrinth of bullshit both parties lead us down to find the hidden kernels of truth. Something that resonates with me, ya know? I like Trump’s ‘big picture’, and I think he’ll hire the right people. I kind of identify with him, even though we’re nothing alike. I don’t have the best words (lol), nor did I go to Wharton to receive the bestest education, but I applied myself and relied on my ability to hire the right people in order to meet and exceed my own goals; which subsequently led to me being able to sell a successful business and semi-retire to the mountains of Western North Carolina.
Vote for a liar who’s currently under FBI investigation? lol. Yeah, no thanks.
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OK, well I shall dub you the Board Libertarian.
We dont have one of those.
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vwvParticipantSo Billy, why do you hate God?
Here are my reasons:
He threw us out of Eden because some bimbo ate an apple.
He trick assed Abraham into thinking he had to kill his own son, and then settled for a lamb.
He killed his own son (using his surrogates, The Jews).
Being the creator of the universe, “he” is more of a female, yet he insists on being called “he”.
“I am who am” he sounds like Trump!
I spent most of my childhood afraid of him, only to realize later in life that I should have been more afraid of his priests.
Belief in God has directly led to more death and destruction than anything else we’ve invented (to date).
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I heard he cant even read.
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vwvParticipantSo Billy, why do you hate God?
Here are my reasons:
He threw us out of Eden because some bimbo ate an apple.
He trick assed Abraham into thinking he had to kill his own son, and then settled for a lamb.
He killed his own son (using his surrogates, The Jews).
Being the creator of the universe, “he” is more of a female, yet he insists on being called “he”.
“I am who am” he sounds like Trump!
I spent most of my childhood afraid of him, only to realize later in life that I should have been more afraid of his priests.
Belief in God has directly led to more death and destruction than anything else we’ve invented (to date).
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I heard he cant even read.
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vNovember 1, 2016 at 3:05 pm in reply to: Nothin would be fina than beatin Carolina … can they do it? #56521wvParticipant.. Fisher gets two more years from me in my MH, and I predict that is what Stan will do.
So as a fan, I am kind of getting sick of Fisher. As a matter of practical strategy for team development, I give him two more years (unless the wheels fall off and he loses the team, and they go 3 – 13, or something unforeseen like that).
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TWO more years, barring a meltdown?So, conceivable he could have, what, SEVEN losing seasons, before Mr Zooey-Management
would fire his devilship? Seven 7-9-bullshit seasons is what it would take?I see.
…well, you do make a good point about the raw rookie QB and what it would mean to HIM,
to have to learn a second pro-system….still….I dunno. I’m pretty sure WV-management would fire Fisher after five losing seasons in a row. I mean, I can understand not winning the NFC title, or winning division championships given Fisher’s bad luck, but five straight flat-out losing seasons would be too much for wv-management. I’d bring in Jack Youngblood. Let him coach the LA Rams. Go ahead, vote against Jack Youngblood. I dare ya.w
vwvParticipantI don’t care if he has a 3rd grade reading level if he hires the right collection of geniuses to attack and solve the Nation’s problems. Another 4 years of watching this Country deteriorate into a politically correct safe haven for litigious self-appointed ‘Champions of the Cause’ who are offended by virtually everything? Yeah, no thank you very much.
I want him to win for no other reason than to keep ‘her’ from appointing those kinds of judges to the Supreme Court.
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Wait a minute. Did you not READ the terms of this board? It clearly states that bnw is the authorized, official Trump supporter.Thats his role. You think you can just come in here and stomp all over someone’s
authorized official ROLE?I might have to sue.
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vwvParticipantCase Keenum 77
Granted, Keenum has been playing better than he was early on. Still.
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vIt has reached the point now where if you average in the 1st 2 games for any Rams offensive stat, you end up with a distorted picture. With some stats, dramatically so. In this case, there’s nearly a 30 point difference between the 1st 2 games & the next 5 games.
CK qb rating
last 5 games: 88.6
season avg all 7 games: 77.5
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I agree, but 88 aint what it used ta be. 88 aint gonna get it done. At least not if you are gonna toss Pick6’s along with yer 88s.I think you agree with that.
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vNovember 1, 2016 at 10:41 am in reply to: Nothin would be fina than beatin Carolina … can they do it? #56487wvParticipantThe refs decide to reverse their neglect of Cam Newton against the “dirty” Rams, and throw a flag every time Newton goes to the ground.
Carolina 23
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If Fisher has a fifth straight losing season, Zooey,
are you gonna be in favor of firing him or keeping him?Just curious.
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vI don’t know. Circumstances change one’s perspective. But at the moment, I don’t really look at it as 5 straight years of losing because I don’t think the first 4 years count. Nobody could have won in any of those seasons given the personnel and the injuries.
So this is Year One of Losing in my book. I think they should make the playoffs this season. If they don’t, my judgement of Fisher will be affected by how far they fell short of that.
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“The first four years dont count.”
Ya know. There are places in this world,
where if ya said that, you’d be defenestrated. Like, totally.
Probably decorticated, first.Are you serious, btw? The first four years dont count?
I count’em myself. If Fisher’s team loses for the fifth straight year,
I’m marching on the castle.Course I’ve never really felt any warmth for Fisher. I just dont cotton to him as a person.
Bring back DV.w
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wvParticipantSpeaking of beasts. Interesting fact about Sharks.
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vSharks equipped to handle climate change
By Bo Petersen bopete@postandcourier.com
The apex predators, along with rays and some other fish species evidently use proteins to modify their genes to respond to rapid environmental changes without having to go through the drawn out process of genetic evolution. The staggering finding was made in a study released by researchers from English and Canadian universities.
The finding is not only groundbreaking, it offers a little optimism over the fate of other species as they face off against the environmental stresses of warming sea, air and land. Many, particularly longer-lived species, might be more resilient than believed.
“We hope our findings will open the door for more detailed research on the role the epigenetics (non-evolutionary changes) may play in allowing vulnerable and ecologically important fish to persist through this period of global warming,” said Jack Lighten, University of East Anglia environmental scientist, the study’s lead author.
“It’s really, really cool. This study is exciting,” said Gavin Naylor, College of Charleston biology professor who has studied sharks and rays and is part of a team exploring the adaptive abilities of sharks. It confirms researchers’ suspicion that life forms don’t just evolve but have a “bag of tricks” to adapt to stresses.
“I think that’s exactly what it means. Organisms have a toolbag of responses they use to survive,” he said. The study also explains why any number of species have animals that are starkly different but genetically identical, he said.
October 31, 2016 at 8:04 pm in reply to: Nothin would be fina than beatin Carolina … can they do it? #56461wvParticipantThe refs decide to reverse their neglect of Cam Newton against the “dirty” Rams, and throw a flag every time Newton goes to the ground.
Carolina 23
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If Fisher has a fifth straight losing season, Zooey,
are you gonna be in favor of firing him or keeping him?Just curious.
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vwvParticipantA term I’d never heard before: “Social narcissism”
“Sleepwalking into Oblivion”
(chris hedges)“…Because of this mass indoctrination, we have become infected by what Daniel Boorstin in “The Image: A Guide to Pseudo-Events in America” calls “social narcissism.” The bottomless narcissism of Trump and the Clintons caters to this social narcissism. They reflect back to us our desperate longing for, as well as celebration of, entertainment, celebrity, wealth, power and self-aggrandizement. It is not only advertising and public relations, as Boorstin pointed out, that carry out the incessant manufacturing of illusions that feed social narcissism. Journalists, book publishers, politicians, athletes, entertainers, positive psychologists, self-help gurus, the Christian right and talk show hosts all feed the mania for illusion. They all chant the insane mantra that reality is never an impediment to what we desire. We can have anything we want if we work hard, get an education, believe in ourselves, grasp that we are exceptional and see the impossible as always possible. It is magical thinking. And magical thinking is the only real commodity the elites have left offer to us. Make American Great Again. Or American already is great. Take your pick of idiotic clichés…
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….Candidates Trump and Clinton have no plans to halt our slide to oblivion. They are part of the circus. They, like all of the other elites, profit from the system that is destroying us. They lack the incentive and probably the capacity to challenge the structures and assumptions that define corporate capitalism. They function as high priests. They peddle the illusions. They laud our ingenuity and strength. They preach the inevitability of human progress and American exceptionalism. They tell us what we want to hear. They appeal to our emotions, as does all of mass culture. They do not acknowledge reality. That would spoil the show.Advertisement
We vote for slogans, manufactured personalities, perceived sincerity, personal attractiveness and the crafted personal narratives peddled by candidates. Office seekers create the illusion of intimacy established between celebrities and their audiences. We see ourselves in them; admirers of the “winner” Trump see themselves as becoming him. No politician succeeds without such artifice. Today’s politics is just one more product of a diseased culture. Our political leaders are much like the celebrities who, in Boorstin’s words, “are receptacles into which we pour our own purposelessness. They are nothing but ourselves seen in a magnifying mirror.” ……
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….at the end we fall into despair and rage. It is why huge parts of the country no longer hold genuine political ideas. It is why people vote according to how they feel. It is why hatred and fear are a potent political platform.It is why we are sleepwalking into oblivion.
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http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/american_irrationalism_201610305wvParticipantYes, and Snisher knew all that — which tells us one of two things, perhaps:
1) Either they are idiots,
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2) Goff’s skill set is so awesome, they traded up and took him (over Wentz, Dak, etc)
despite his steep learning curve.w
vwvParticipantlet’s not forget who and what she is, people.
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Well, we got bnw to remind us of what she is,
should we forget.That’s your role, bnw 🙂
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vwvParticipantJesus Christ.
You know, I actually started framing the idea of a book, and began taking notes on it in the Spring before realizing late in the summer I was never going to write it. The basic idea was to explore how Greed (1 of the 7 Deadly Sins) is killing us. I was thinking of a chapter on greed’s impact on various aspects of life: education, health care, prisons, biosphere poisoning, democracy, race, media and so on.
We are dead.
Because we are so greedy, we cannot restrain ourselves even when what we are doing to enrich ourselves is self-destructive.
And where is the media? Covering Israel’s movement into Syria? No. US military buildup around Russia and China? No. Standing Rock? No.
Donald Trump’s hands, and Anthony’s Weiner.
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I know, Z, I know.
I’ve kinda stopped reading much about the ‘what’ questions. Ya know like what is happening here, and what is happening there — its kinda all the same story.
The question i ask now, mostly, is whether i should even be rooting for humanity TO survive.
I mean, geez, we are the only beings on the planet that are destroying the biosphere.
Why root for ‘that’ species ?Who knows. I got nuthin.
…listen to that long Cornell West vid i posted. That guy asks good questions. Like ‘how can the progressive community keep from getting burned out? And how can anarchists, socialists, progressives, atheists, agnostics, off-the-gridders, dem-liberals, etc — form some unity and create community, etc, etc… Its worth listening to the whole entire thing, i think.
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vOctober 31, 2016 at 2:47 pm in reply to: Nothin would be fina than beatin Carolina … can they do it? #56435wvParticipantWell the season is on the line. Its a must-win game, with regard to any outside chance at that last Wildcard spot.
Quinn, Brockers and Hayes will be rested.
Its now or never for the Rams in season FIVE.
Rams 20
Panthers 10w
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