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  • in reply to: For WV-Free Diving- #113004
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    Have you noticed any changes in the underwater environment since you first started?
    Environmental damage? Plastic, etc?

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    in reply to: For WV-Free Diving- #112978
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    So where did you grow up ? If you start as a young age your ears become accustomed to clearing as you go down. You can actually hear the click, click, click click click. The real danger is that if you spear a fish at that depth and it “holes up” you need to stay and work the fish out of its cave. That takes time, and effort-using precious air. I’ve known more than one free diver who is no longer with us because of this. My most memorable and frightening time was 1957 Pacific Coast Championship off Carmel -near Monterey. The water was not clear until 30 ft down and then it was crystal clear-but no light because of the dirty water above. I shot a ling cod at 60 ft but the line was tangled around a rock. After working unsuccessfully I knew I was in trouble. I left the gun and fish and started up knowing was totally spent and out of air. When I reached the surface I could sense my legs becoming numb and the numbness rising up to my waist. I had tunnel vision and knew I was about to “black out”. When that happens your body does what it wants which is to breath and if you do that underwater you breath water and you then sink. Another diver near by-and a competitor-knew I was in trouble and came over to hold me until I came out of it. The article I posted by Terry Maas ( a friend) is very illustrative of the dangers of “shallow water blackout”.

    Bottom line-this is not “snorkeling”. A present problem we have is younger divers who push the limits and we are seeing more and more drownings.

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    I grew up here. In WV.

    Here’s some advice I read.

    “If a shark actually gets you in its mouth, we advise to be as aggressively defensive as you are able.”

    link:https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/shark-attacks/reduce-risk/divers/

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    in reply to: For WV-Free Diving- #112965
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    We are different than the video. Those guys are very strange. No fins, no masks, and they can go as deep as 300 ft. Years ago when we were in shape and free diving in spearfishing tournaments we often dove 70-100 ft while hunting (no SCUBA). Today its more like we float around on top of the water and if we don’t see anything we get back in the boat and drink wine.

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    70-100 feet is very impressive. I often wish i had grown up near the ocean. Not much deep-diving in appalachia 🙂

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    in reply to: Kill the Corporation #112955
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    “Corporations may be the dominant institution of our time, but they do not need to be. Much like the church, the monarchy, and the Communist Party, the corporation has undeniably harmed humanity more than it has helped us.”
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    Well if I was having lunch with your son, I’d ask him to expand on his view that the Communist Party harmed humanity more than it helped them. Cause the various incarnations of the American Commie Parties didnt harm anyone that I know of.
    Maybe he means Stalin’s Party.

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    in reply to: signs, comics, memes, & other visual aids #112954
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    in reply to: Chris Long interviews Gurley #112953
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    Sigh. At just after the 4 min mark, Chris asks him about the injury/lack of playing time — And Gurley sez at one point “I dont know.” Really.

    It annoys me.

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    …btw, skip the 15:50 mark of that vid. There’s a cute anecdote about the wrestling term “foreign object.” Ted Turner didn’t like the word ‘foreign’ in general at his network so…

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    in reply to: the new debate — grandparents v. the economy #112939
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    I did not have Prince Charles on my Covid-19 Bingo card.

    I do have Glenn Beck, though.

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    “George W. Bush is the President.
    He will win the war.
    He will free the Iraqi people.
    He will win 2004.
    He will get my vote.
    So pipe down”

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    in reply to: signs, comics, memes, & other visual aids #112937
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    In the modern world, far, far more so than in the past, we have close to an overwhelming amount of fog, gaslighting and white noise to cut through. And because, capitalism, that white noise, gaslighting and fog is actually designed to prevent our natural, hard-wired attempts to form coherent narratives from external “facts.” It’s also designed to get us to do things that run counter to our own best interests..

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    Well this is what I’ve been thinking-about/talking-about/asking-about for the past two years or so.

    Are we surrounded-by/Inundated-with/Immersed-In/assaulted-by MORE LIES than in the past in this country? Or not.

    Is ‘corporate-capitalism’ built on LIES?

    If it is, what does living in such a society ‘do’ to citizens?
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    How do the modern-corporate LIES of this society compare to the LIEs of, say, the Roman Empire or the USSR, or other past-societies?
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    If we are what i have been calling a Culture-Of-Lies, is there any way…out?

    This is what i have been obsessed with for the last two years.

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    “…Campaigners for God, Country and the American Way of Life did not stop when they had crushed radical trade unions and jailed socialist, syndicalist and communist spokespeople. They also bought out and took over the communication apparatus: the press, the schools and colleges, the libraries, the churches, civic organizations, the movies, radio and television. The professions, notably education were purged of subversive teachers, textbooks and ideas. The same men who operated mines, factories and department stores became owners, directors and trustees of the entire communication apparatus. Communication, like merchandising and farming became parts of the big business octopus that was reaching its tentacles into every profit-yielding corner of American life.
    ….Papers that spoke for the Oligarchs and their interests got the advertising. Others died of financial malnutrition….
    ….Book publishers and magazine editors were members of the American Oligarchy. They were not top-flight members; they held their jobs so long as they built readership, got advertising and showed profits on the investment…”
    Making of a Radical, Scott Nearing

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    in reply to: the new debate — grandparents v. the economy #112926
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    He does not care.

    He sees this pandemic as a personal nuisance, not as a health crisis.

    He doesn’t care about other people. He can’t even PRETEND to care.

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    He’s a strange one isnt he. A weird mix of:
    Flatout-Unrepentent-IGNORANCE + Fucking-Mental-Illness + Rightwing-Politics.

    Mix them three things together and its not pretty is it.

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    in reply to: For WV-Free Diving- #112924
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    Yes, i like learning about subcultures. Whether its rodeo riders, or surfers or people who fall in love with inanimate objects, etc.

    The freedivers often talk about a certain ‘peace’ that comes with diving with no equipment.

    And then there’s all the fascinating ‘science’ of it. The human body adapts to the depths in such startling ways.

    And then there’s the ‘history’. People have been deepdive-fishing for eons, and so many myths and stories accompany it….

    You seem to be pretty connected to the Water, Waterfield.

    in reply to: virus news … (+ some dark humor) #112903
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    Blood type matters? I wonder if that is true. I have no idea.
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    in reply to: The Expanse #112900
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    Jacobin:https://jacobinmag.com/2019/12/jeff-bezos-the-expanse-space-fantasy-sci-fi-syfy
    Jeff Bezos and His Billionaire Space Fantasy

    By Paris Marx

    Imagine, for a moment, that you’re a billionaire who’s read science fiction your whole life. Your mind, deluded by your immense wealth, thinks that the only way to “deploy this much financial resource” is to invest in space instead of paying taxes so we can collectively solve the problems on Earth. When a fictional television show about space colonization is canceled in its third season, you swoop in to save the day because not only do you fund a space company, but you also own a massive streaming platform — and it needs content. After chatting with some of the cast, you email your team asking to announce the show’s renewal, and — ten minutes after they reply — you take the stage and are lauded by sci-fi fans across the internet for saving the day.

    This is exactly what happened when The Expanse was canceled by Syfy and quickly scooped up by Amazon Prime Video for a fourth season after a personal intervention by CEO Jeff Bezos. It’s hard to imagine having so much money that you could both fund a space race and the media that could inspire it all at the same time, but that’s exactly what he’s doing.

    Earlier this year, Bezos put forward his vision for space colonization, which involved growing the human population to over a trillion people living in colonies orbiting Earth. Bezos asserted population expansion would allow a flourishing of the arts, with the creation of “a thousand Mozarts and a thousand Einsteins,” and would help us avoid “stasis and rationing” on Earth for an economy of “growth and dynamism” in space. But Bezos’s vision completely ignores what the lives of the working class would look like in such a future. And he’s not the only billionaire making that mistake. SpaceX CEO Elon Musk also believes humanity must become a “multiplanetary species” by establishing a colony on Mars that will grow into a city of over a million within a few decades. By his telling, it would be governed by a direct democracy with all laws requiring 60 percent support to be enacted, but only 40 percent support to be repealed — a libertarian’s space fantasy.

    Bezos’s and Musk’s visions of life in space are afflicted by a misguided belief that humanity will have solved its social conflicts before taking to the stars. It’s a view that may have come from the social relations in Star Trek — another show that Bezos loves — but that franchise’s fictional world is one of postcapitalist abundance, not rampant capitalism.

    Even though Bezos claims to be a fan of the The Expanse and is bankrolling its future, it’s a bizarre choice for a billionaire trying to sell space colonization to the masses. Whatever Bezos’s personal fantasies are, The Expanse destroys the notion that space colonization under capitalism will be any kind of utopia. Instead, it suggests a terrible life for the working class and even more power for the capitalist elite.
    The Working Class of Space Colonization

    In The Expanse, the solar system is effectively divided into three groups: an Earth ravaged by climate change and pollution with a population of 30 billion people governed by the United Nations (UN); a Mars Congressional Republic (MCR) whose 9 billion people live in a heavily militarized society with the hope they’ll one day be able to leave their domes to live on a terraformed planet; and the asteroid belt, known simply as “the Belt,” with 50 to 100 million people who have no autonomy, but whose lives are controlled by the corporations that employ them and the security apparatus of the UN or MCR, depending on which government has jurisdiction over the moon, asteroid, or space station they happen to live on.

    Belters, as they’re called, are under the boot of the inner planets. They’re the working class of the system, paid little despite mining the resources and building the ships needed by Earth and Mars. Life for Belters is a constant battle against environments not designed for human life, struggling for enough water and fighting landlords who cheap out on the air filters needed to keep themselves and their children healthy. Their bodies have been deformed by generations in low gravity, making them taller and more slender than the “inners,” as they call those from Earth and Mars, and weakening their bones so they can’t return to Earth. Their distinctive physical features and their unique variation of English make it easy for those from Earth and Mars to single them out and treat them as money-grubbing thieves who are less than the people from the inner worlds. But they’re not resigned to their oppression. Accepting they have no home but the Belt, a section of Belters formed the Outer Planets Alliance (OPA), a mix between a labor union and advocacy group to fight for Belter rights and independence from the inners. It’s treated as a terrorist group by the governments of Earth and Mars, just as Nelson Mandela, the African National Congress, and so many other groups that fought against colonialism and apartheid were before they won.

    In the fifth episode of The Expanse’s first season, the show cuts away from the main story lines to an asteroid mine under the jurisdiction of the UN. The miners are refusing to work because the poor air quality and low gravity in their outpost is making their children sick. All they want is for that to be addressed, but their employer denies the problem, and the UN Marines blockade the station for four days. The workers try to contact UN command several times to surrender but find their comms have been jammed. As they attempt to send their final message, a UN ship destroys the asteroid, killing everyone on board. It’s a tactic designed to send a message to other mining colonies, and it shows just how little those in power value the lives of the workers who make their colonization efforts possible.

    It’s worth wondering what Jeff Bezos thinks about the plight of Belters, but it’s likely he pays them little mind. His vision of space colonization makes no mention of the working class, placing far more emphasis on the lives well-off residents will be able to lead and the small percentage of people who will be lauded as geniuses. That blind spot echoes how Bezos treats the Amazon workers who are responsible for his great wealth, leaving them to toil in warehouses where they’re constantly monitored, afraid to take bathroom breaks, get injured at rates more than twice the industry average, and have to suffer through high temperatures needed so the robots keep working (the robots, the workers are told, do not function well in cooler temperatures).

    Bezos may well believe the Belters are in their rightful place and not think much more about it, but that’s not the only way The Expanse demonstrates how regular people could suffer in a capitalist space future.
    Sacrificing People for Power

    Just as Bezos has little consideration for Amazon warehouse workers, the powerful in The Expanse have a similar disinterest in the plight of common people. That’s demonstrated both by senior members of government and one of the richest men in the solar system, the show’s very own Bezos.

    Back on Earth, the UN of The Expanse has failed to maintain an economy, to use Bezos’s words, of “dynamism and growth” despite colonizing the solar system. UN deputy undersecretary Chrisjen Avasarala explains that the government is unable to provide enough opportunities for its residents, so while some of them work, many survive on a welfare payment called Basic Assistance. It’s similar to the basic income that Silicon Valley titans have called for in response to the threat of automation, but when the show leaves the UN’s halls of power to give viewers a rare glimpse of the streets of Earth, it’s clear that’s not working out as promised. When one of the main characters escapes the Martian embassy, she meets a group of people who live in shanties near the sewers despite receiving the payment. One of the men explains the difficulty of their lives: being denied medication from clinics, children exposed to radiation from nearby factories, drinking sewer water in the summers, and applying for vocational training at seventeen years old and still waiting at fifty-two because there are so few spots. A small cash payment doesn’t make up for the lack of education and employment, and there’s a later allusion to a class of undocumented people on Earth who aren’t even eligible for Basic.

    While the high-ranking figures of the UN are portrayed as being aloof from the suffering of the have-nots, wealthy industrialist Jules-Pierre Mao sees them as having no humanity whatsoever. It’s hard to imagine that Bezos doesn’t feel some connection to a character like Mao, who owns a massive conglomerate that secretly built its own stealth ships and is willing to sacrifice as many lives as it takes to control the “protomolecule” alien life-form. Mao believes the proto-molecule could be used as a weapon but also hopes it could be merged with humans to create a higher form of life. Bezos has no problem squeezing the last bit of labor from Amazon workers, then casting them aside when they’re spent, but Mao’s dehumanization of people below him goes much further. He infects a station of 1.5 million people and uses Belter children as live test subjects, all of whom die as a result of his experiments.

    At one point, Mao states, “our actions affect the lives of millions . . . billions . . . entire planets . . . in ways that few people can comprehend,” but he doesn’t feel a responsibility to those billions of people. Rather, he develops a god complex that leads him to feel that he alone can move humanity forward, not so different from the ideologies of billionaires like Bezos and Musk.
    Don’t Let Billionaires Chart the Future

    While Bezos and Musk might have deluded themselves into believing that space colonization will be our salvation, The Expanse suffers no such delusions. It gives us a much more realistic glimpse of what space colonization driven by capitalism might look like: a terrible deal for anyone who isn’t enormously wealthy or in a high-ranking position in government or the military. Most of us would still be under the boot of those in power, as the Belters find themselves, or cast off to survive on a poverty stipend.

    Just as workers in the present have to fight against colonial powers and abusive bosses, so do Belters. The OPA isn’t always populated with the most ethical people, but over the course of the first three seasons, it grows from being a disorganized advocacy group to a quasi-government with a ship fighting alongside the navies of Earth and Mars. It’s the most inspiring development of the series, and the fourth season seems poised to delve further into what it actually means for Belters to have power. Will they live up to the Belter proverb that states, “the more you share, the more your bowl will be plentiful”; will their newfound power corrupt their stated egalitarian values; or will that story line be cast off if the show’s new billionaire benefactor doesn’t care so much about Belters?

    While it might bewilder us that Bezos would ever swoop in to save a TV show as honest about class conflict as The Expanse, it could be that we’re just overthinking it. It’s likely he sees it as little more than part of a PR campaign to get people to buy into his ambition to profit from the resource wealth of asteroids and other space rocks. And while the show doesn’t shy away from depicting the viciousness of capitalism in space, for Bezos, it might be much simpler than that — any vision of capitalism dominating us even as we spread out through the galaxy is a vision, as far as he’s concerned, worth promoting.

    Billionaires will never promote a future that breaks with capitalism because that would challenge their own positions of power and privilege right here in the present. And while dreams of space can entice the imagination, our future — at least in the near term — doesn’t lie among the asteroids. Our future is here on Earth, building a society where ordinary people are put before the rich and powerful.

    If we ever do head into the stars, our journey should follow the example of Star Trek and be motivated by a desire to learn, not to mine asteroids for profit. Because if there’s one thing The Expanse makes abundantly clear, that’s a future only a billionaire could love.

    in reply to: Logos/colors Monday … and … here it is #112899
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    Ha. Now i see it. Damn, if zn hadnt actually said a penis was in there i wouldnt have seen it.

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    in reply to: The Expanse #112898
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    “And we have a dangerous weapon out there..”
    “Donald Trump”

    in reply to: The Expanse #112897
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    I would say it has the best-developed politics of any Sci-Fi show I’ve ever seen. There was ONE episode of Battlestar Galactica that dealt with oppression of Workers and it was a fantastic episode. But it was just one episode among a hundred or so episodes.

    Now, i will also say there are plenty of scenes of Expanse that didnt work for me, and i dont think the dialogue is as good as on many shows. Special effects are just so-so, imho. But I dont care about any of that because the show goes where no sci-fi show has gone before — into the LEFT expanse.

    in reply to: Logos/colors Monday … and … here it is #112887
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    Oh crap! Now I can’t unsee the penis. Penises and bananas. Go Rams.

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    Well i dont see a penis. Or a Banana. Or a dead cow skull among tumble-weeds, on the prairie.

    I see…..a giant cavernous stadium…empty…except for strange klick-klacking and grunting sounds…while skeletons in helmets practice football plays in the sun.

    And there’s wind. Rustling wind.

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    in reply to: the new debate — grandparents v. the economy #112886
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    I dont see how the nation can avoid a major Depression, given the neoliberal-shit-policies we’ve been saddled with by the Dems and Reps for the last few decades.

    The rich will cruise through it. The poor will die.

    And as per usual, the poor will turn right around and vote for ones killing them.

    Madhouse.

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    in reply to: The Expanse #112868
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    in reply to: Logos/colors Monday … and … here it is #112860
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    Its fine.

    I assumed the corporate-idiots would have made it even worse. Ya know. Like having a McDonalds arches instead of horns, or maybe having the Ram eating a Wendi’s burger or something.

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    in reply to: Will there be a season? #112859
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    I am going to guess yes to a truncated football season but with the majority of those games having no fans in the stadium.

    To Waterfield’s point, that would make it a good year to dump all your potential salary cap losses.

    Go in strong the year after with the additional draft choices and some extra money.

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    How surreal would it be,
    to see that Multi-Billion-Dollar Kroenk-Stadium…empty, except for the players.

    Then again, it might be an advantage for the Rams to have NO fans in the stadium,
    since often-times the opposing fans make more noise than the LA fans. 🙂

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    Some talk about the bill in this:

    in reply to: Will there be a season? #112846
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    If the reports of people still gathering in public spaces are true, I don’t see anyway that the seasons starts on time. I wouldn’t be surprised if their is no season. At this point were I forced to bet I would bet against it happening.

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    Well then what is our purpose on this planet ?

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    “Calm down. Both your sins and your good deeds will be lost in oblivion.”
    ― Czesław Miłosz

    in reply to: Krystal Ball: Bernie should drop out if… #112827
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    I totally disagree and I haven’t even seen the video.

    Bernie needs to stay in for ONE reason: If Bernie drops out, then the DNC could just have Biden give his delegates to anyone else and no one could say anything since technically no one would be running.

    Bernie staying in prevents the DNC from simply appointing their candidate of choice.

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    Well in the Vid, Krystal Ball says Bernie should drop out only IF, the DNC gives Bernie the role of Virus-Czar or somethin. Bernie would set virus-policy. Thats her view, anyway. Not mine.

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    “…In times of economic crisis such as the Great Depression of 1929-38, government dumped millions into the economy to save it from its self-engendered, speculation-mad insolvency. In a word, business adventured, speculated, falsified, and corrupted while the going was good. When the profits were squeezed out of an area business pocketed its gains and moved on to greener pastures, leaving the government to foot the bill.
    Muckrakers at the turn of the century described the putrid mess of waste, corruption, pillaging of public property, wholesale destruction, and mass murder that resulted from the greed and mad adventurism of private enterprise on-the-make.
    ….this era of self-criticism was cut short by the 1914-1918 war.
    When the war ended in Novermber, 1918, veterans returning from Europe eagerly joined hands with corporate wealth and slum gangsterism to drive socialists from office and restore the rat race for wealth and power which had occupied the half century between 1865 and 1915…”

    Scott Nearing “Making of a Radical”

    in reply to: the testing fiasco #112825
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    Did Shake-speare have anything to say
    about plagues?

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    “Tis the times’ plague, when madmen lead the blind.” From King Lear.

    Actually he wrote Lear during a plague.

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    Well thats fucking perfect. That should be way more famous than “Romeo! Romeo!”

    Madmen leadin the Blind. Definitely. And the Blind leadin the Mad.
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    in reply to: the testing fiasco #112822
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    As Hamlet said,

    ay, there’s the rub!

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    Did Shake-speare have anything to say
    about plagues?

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    in reply to: Young people and Sanders #112821
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    Well i cant argue that there is an ‘ignorance problem’ and
    a ‘selfishness problem’ in America.
    I’m not sure its worse in young people. Maybe.

    Many people have pointed out this kind of thing (like a Hurricane or Flood, etc) brings out the best in some folks and the worst in some folks, for various reasons.

    I think things go better when theres a “sense of community” among people in an area. My neighborhood, for example has a strong sense of community. People are falling all over themselves to be helpful.

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    in reply to: the testing fiasco #112814
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    …is what the Fox News folks and rightwing-propaganda will focus on. Donald Trump valiantly tried to lead the nation, but the big-gubmunt-bureaucracy failed us….

    That won’t fly. A president is in a position to streamline all that and get it running to face a crisis.

    As it stands he’s still insisting that states buy their own supplies even while the Feds bid against them.

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    Well it wont fly with people living in a reality-based-world.

    How many people is that?

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