maybe i’m stating the obvious, but i think three things hurt torry.

1. he played with a cast full of hall of famers in faulk, warner, pace, and bruce.
2. the lack of touchdowns.  he’s 39th all time in receiving touchdowns.
3. longevity.  injuries cut his career short.  if he had played even just two more healthy seasons, he likely would be in the top 10 in receiving yards.  if he played four more healthy seasons, he likely would be top 5 in receiving yards – possibly even ahead of randy moss.  and that’s being conservative.

i think he’ll eventually make it though.

i agree with ed. jackson was very underrated mostly because of the circumstances surrounding him.

also.  the new tv deals kick in starting 2023.  and you figure the salary cap and will shoot up at that point.

edit…  i just checked.  it will almost double the value of the previous contracts.

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and it sounds like it’s very likely that obj will be back. i don’t know if they’ll repeat, but i don’t think the rams could have done much more this off-season to put themselves in position to get back.

zn wrote:

JB@JB_Peeples Being a fan of the Rams is so freaking exciting… this offseason they have extended Stafford and AD plus signed Wagner and Robinson all coming off a Super Bowl win. It makes those years of awful awful football so worth it.

i think the organization realizes the window is rapidly closing.  and they might not get another opportunity like this for a long time.  i think it’s a sound strategy even though you might be paying for it down the road.

interesting. all this time i was thinking how wags was gonna make this defense better.

but now i’m wondering how can this scheme make wags better? with all this talk about split coverages and making the defense more multiple or adaptable i guess. and the potential to put wags in even better situations than he was while with seattle.

also very excited to see how the wags/jones pair works out.

and the gsot had marshall. it’ll be hard for this offense to match the gsot for that reason. one of the best offensive players ever. to complement and even enhance the receiving options at their disposal.

zn wrote:

Rams Brothers@RamsBrothers In 2021, the Rams led the league in passing rate inside of the 5-yard line (65.8%), and second inside of the 10.

and they could actually be better next season with robinson…

zn wrote:

Stu Jackson@StuJRams Rams LB Bobby Wagner on working with LB Ernest Jones: “He has all the attributes of a great linebacker, and if I can do anything to help, I will.”

i’m excited to see what wags and jones can do this year together. what kind of schemes they can come up with because i do like jones’ potential and we know what wags can do.

zn wrote:

Nobody is stopping this Rams offense if Odell Beckham Jr. returns.

can’t forget about higbee.

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zn wrote:

From PFF, Most underrated player on all 32 NFL teams: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-most-underrated-player-32-nfl-teams-2022#LAR … LOS ANGELES RAMS: DI AARON DONALD Yes, you read that right. No matter how good you believe Donald to be, chances are the data says he’s better. Donald is redefining pass rushing from an interior alignment. Edge rushers generate significantly more pressure than their interior counterparts. They may have further to travel to get the pressure, but they have more space to work with and much more of their rush takes place out of the quarterback’s field of vision. Donald doesn’t just rival any edge rusher in the league for pressure, he exceeds them all. Over the past three seasons, Donald leads all pass-rushers in pressures by 32 from the next best mark. He has a pass-rush win rate of 23.2%, which is also the best mark in the league. Donald is the best pass-rusher the NFL has seen over the past 16 seasons of PFF grading and is in another world compared to any player at his position.

yeah. he’s one of one. that’s used way too often, but it fits donald. he’s right up there with lawrence taylor for defensive players. best of his generation, and he’s not even done yet.

in terms of just being a sports fan, it’s been one of the great privileges to watch him play over the years.

Billy_T wrote:

But a freakish athlete, under Ram tutelage for a year or two?

one thing i would say is that the rams strategy may have been drafting for now rather than for the future. not on all their picks but for a significant portion of them.

sure they drafted hardy for potential, but bruss, williams, and lake seem to have been drafted more because they could possibly step in right away and contribute.

bruss comes from a program known for development of the oline. lake has the pedigree. he’s been compared to fuller. a guy who doesn’t stand out physically but knows football. fundamentally sound. and fits the scheme. williams is not just a physical runner, but he can catch and pass block.

they know the window is small. even just one or two years of development is too long when they’re trying to win now.

maybe i’m wrong about that. i don’t know.

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Billy_T wrote:

Logan Bruss and Daniel Hardy are the only two players in the Rams’ class who scored above an 8.50, making them the most athletic of Los Angeles’ class.

and probably my two favorite picks. although i do like the williams pick. i’m rooting for him hard. but more athleticism and potential would have been nice too.

i remember the name roger carter. i will be following him.

Now that's full circle this not only made me smile but also made my day! @Kyrenwilliams23 congratulations! I look forward to seeing you hold down the backfield.

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