zn wrote:

In fact he may have the best legs of any decent starting qb they’ve had since I first started watching them.

i hope he’s able to sit for two or three seasons and then take over.

Zooey wrote:

The knock seems to be his blocking, and some say he has a limited upside there. I wondered about that because my impression is that blocking is mostly leverage and angles i.e. technique. Why can’t he improve there?

i hear differing things. i tend to agree with zn and these evaluators are evaluating him as a traditional in line tight end which would be a waste of his ability anyway. i think those responsibilities will fall on parkinson and higbee and allen.

i did see one video where they thought his year at ohio state helped him in that they placed more blocking responsibilities on him than they did at purdue. it forced him to get better in that area and ultimately helps him more in his transition to the nfl. i also almost universally see that he graded out a better blocker than stowers so there’s that.

he also has only 33 games of experience. his freshman year he only played 2 games and his sophomore year he only played 5 games before he got injured. by comparison that’s less than brock bowers, tyler warren, colston loveland, kenyon sadiq, eli stowers, harold fannin jr, sam laporta. the only tight end i looked up who had less was dalton kincaid. so he’s somewhat got some more growth in him relatively speaking. he was also a qb who converted to tight end his junior year in highschool.

zn wrote:

Max Klare’s Athleticism is practically off the charts

i’m really curious as to what numbers he would have put up if he had participated at the combine.

so he ranks in the 99.6 percentile in on field athleticism score. i had to look that up. it apparently uses computer vision to track player movements on the field. interesting. i think this is what they are referring to. apparently sam laporta and nacua both ranked in the 99th% according to this article.

https://www.pff.com/news/pff-announces-new-pff-game-athleticism-score-pff-gas#:~:text=The%20PFF%20Game%20Athleticism%20Score%20(PFF%20GAS),and%20tools%20for%20all%20PFF%20IQ%20users.

zn wrote:

So why is there speculation about this pick, McVay’s reaction, and McVay’s future? IMO–people are just making things out of the press conference that are just not there. That’s the incitement.

ok so i went and watched the video. and it was good. pretty much stuff i have been speculating about minus the all the detail and insider information that she brought to the table. mcvay is a lightning rod. has been since the rams hired him. martz caught a little bit of that, but mcvay has for better or worse been able to sustain that for a decade. it just comes with the territory.

an aside note. this. and i keep harping on it. this is one of the markers that will define sean’s legacy. his ability to draft and develop a qb. as jourdan said, mcvay won’t actually be in there getting his hands dirty with simpson, but he will be overseeing the process. he is directly involved in hiring the people who are responsible for tuning simpson up. and i agree with jourdan. he needs a stable environment to accomplish this. because mcvay is such a lightning rod, the environment is always in flux. especially with the offensive coaching staff. how he does this i have no clue. goff had lafleur and he left almost immediately. so now what happens with simpson. jourdan has her doubts. i wonder too. i think what will be crucial is how much mcvay has learned in the years since he traded goff and then almost burned out himself. can he slow down his pace and let others catch up? simpson will also have the benefit of learning under stafford instead of being put in the pressurized environment of a qb1 like goff was. of course if stafford retires in a year, then everything changes. it would actually be a benefit to everyone if stafford stayed two or three more years. but mcvay will also have to realize that he can’t just expect simpson to hit the ground running. i’ll be curious to see how it all unfolds.

i will say this. i slightly disagree with her in that some of it might be personality issues. goff may not have been the best match personality wise? i don’t have anything to base that on. just a hunch. simpson might actually be a better fit. just watching him in that chase daniels interview. again. i can’t quite articulate it, but i can see mcvay vibing with this guy. doesn’t mean it’ll be a success. but it may have a better chance of success than the mcvay goff partnership?

i am glad they also talked about the 13 personnel transition the rams are doing. i think ferguson and klare will be important. so important as wr/te hybrids. it’s why i wasn’t so concerned about drafting another receiver. i see next year as parkinson being the inline te with higbee as the backup or vice versa. and then ideally ferguson as the move te/third wr if he can progress. so they’ll essentially be an 11/12 personnel hybrid. then you can mix in klare or higbee/parkinson depending on the situation in 13 personnel. in the future you could even have ferguson and klare lined up together with two wrs if everything goes well. i’m sure the coaching staff are coming up with all sorts of different ideas.

• This reply was modified 2 weeks, 5 days ago by InvaderRam.

how does one read between the lines in this interview? hahahaha!

they say there was no pushback when discussing simpson. i can’t believe that’s true. not exactly.

they do mention that it wasn’t in important where they took him. just that they got their player. i think we’ve known for awhile that this organization values draft picks differently than most other organizations do.

and lastly shout out to all nerds. good to see our people at the podium taking questions.

Herzog wrote:

I think McVay was kind of a dick to Ty on the phone. He gave me”I’m gonna run you out of town” vibes. One of the few times I was really disappointed in him. Like him or not, he’s got him now…. Coach him the Fuq up now

that’s what i thought initially. but i am not so sure.

maybe aloof? i think he’s trying to tread a line between bringing in a new qb and making sure the old qb knows that he’s still the guy.

i don’t even know if that came from stafford or maybe mcvay just had it in his head. or he didn’t want the media to manufacture some kind of drama?

the media did end up creating drama anyway which they tried to clear up. i don’t think snead or the organization would want to upset mcvay by forcing a pick on him unless they know something we don’t. which is that mcvay and stafford do not plan on coming back. but i don’t see any reason to think that.

zn wrote:

wv wrote:

Well, I dont get why you think the third rounder is a guard? He started all his college games except one at Tackle.

Cause to me, 6’4 = Rams guard.

Moving college tackles inside to guard is an old NFL thing.

his length isn’t ideal for a tackle. doesn’t mean he can’t, but most likely his ideal position is guard.

they said he can play all five positions. my secret hope is he can play center?

wv wrote:

(Check out the vid “why i almost fell in love with simpson”. At about the 10 minute mark he starts the negative stuff on Ty. )

i just watched it. the mechanics issues are worrisome. i guess that can be corrected with coaching? but he also needs live reps too. which he ideally won’t get outside of preseason.

late diagnosing plays? again maybe a reps issue?

the physical problems i don’t have so much of an issue with. he’s not going to outrun defenders.

he looks like a second rounder. i know snead doesn’t put much stock into draft capital. just a means to get a player. i don’t know. i know he’s got fancy mathematicians mathing the outcomes. maybe it makes sense from that point of view? but from where i’m sitting i want another superbowl. any number of injuries could happen. a nacua suspension is not out of the question. an oline injury (although they addressed that later in the draft). adams. or one of the dbs could go down.

stafford is not replaceable. impossible in the near future. very unlikely in the distant future. this is why you got him in the first place. he’s supposed to be the elite qb to get you over the hump like mina kimes said in that video. i don’t think you can math that problem if he goes down. the other ones you can math.

the more i think about it actually the less convinced i become. unless mcvay and the coaching staff find the next steve young in this kid.

wv wrote:

I get why they did it, etc. And their approach was totally reasonable and understandable blah blah. I just dont agree with it. Winning a Super Bowl is really really hard, and i think when you have a clear shot at it in Stafford’s possible-last-year or last-healthy-year, i think you take that shot. I think M.Lemon was the pick. I like the tight-end-weapon. And I like the OLineman.

i agree with you. they could have gone receiver. or traded down. i preferred sadiq there at 13. but i woulda preferred lemon over simpson.

anthony hill jr was picked right before the rams second rounder. that sucked. i think that guy instantly improves the defense. instantly. kyle louis is still available too.

ioane even. he went 14 right after simpson. that woulda been a totally justifiable pick.

this is a write up of klare. you have to scroll down along with the video it references.

https://cjfreel.substack.com/p/147-carnell-tate-max-klare-and-eric

wv wrote:

15 starts. Has any QB with that type of college history ever turned out to be a top NFL QB? I dunno. I cant think of one offhand.

i asked gemini.

cam newton, kyler murray, anthony richardson, mitchell trubisky, and dwayne haskins.

if you expand it to 20 games, it also includes four others. trey lance, mark sanchez, mac jones, and ryan tannehill.

it makes no mention of kurt warner and i didn’t really cross check to verify the accuracy of this answer.

edit. this only includes qbs drafted in the first round which is why warner isn’t on this list.

• This reply was modified 2 weeks, 5 days ago by InvaderRam.

i don’t hate the pick. i don’t love it either.

if they were going to pick a tight end, i wanted it to be sadiq or stowers. when the rams picked simpson, sadiq was obviously out of the question. i was hoping stowers would be there, but he got picked early.

not a bad pick. and maybe it was just getting lost on that star studded team.

i think he and ferguson could eventually be a good duo, but they’re very unproven. and like has been mentioned, three of their five tight ends could be gone next year.

i did want a tight end. just a different one.

wv wrote:

I was wondering about that, too. I’m hoping that McVay has not already told the Rams that when Stafford retires, McVay will leave. ….maybe Snead chose Ty Simpson because he knows HE is the one who has to take the long view, cause McVay wont be there to pick up the pieces.
Just somethin i wondered about for a few seconds. Just wv-mind wandering. Or wondering. Or somethin.

well. that would suck.

so. i prefer not to believe that.

after watching that chase daniels interview i’ve changed my mind. i still don’t like the pick, but i actually believe that mcvay loves this kid…

problem is he’s still married to stafford. so now he’s on live tv having to talk about his new love while his qb is at home likely watching. how do you manage that? simpson is gushing over him, but mcvay doesn’t want to make stafford jealous. needs to keep him happy. so simpson is talking about making history and crying. and mcvay is nervously chuckling feeling that death stare from matthew.

seriously though simpson sounds like mcvay in that video. i actually don’t see how mcvay doesn’t love this kid. but at the same time his starting qb is probably thinking let’s go all in and win another championship. this doesn’t benefit the rams in any way unless stafford is not playing. either because he’s injured or he’s not signed to play with them.

i thought contract talks were progressing. maybe they are and stafford plays for the rams for another three seasons. but then that means simpson is the backup qb. not the worst idea. and hopefully the rams pick receiver or tight end at some point in the later rounds.

• This reply was modified 2 weeks, 6 days ago by InvaderRam.