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ZooeyModeratorDidn’t see this coming…
If Banking was a Pro sports team?
When things go wrong (losses) in SPORTS, the owner usually cleans house (fires GM, Front office personnel, Coaches, Players) to reset for a new season.
When things go wrong (losses) in BANKING, the owners get more money from their league office…
— 𝒥𝒾𝓂 𝐸𝓋𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓉𝓉 (@Jim_Everett) March 23, 2023
ZooeyModeratorThe Rams may be just clearing enough cap space to sign Chris Massey.
ZooeyModeratorRex Chapman@RexChapman An Alabama youth girls’ basketball team that was told they would lose their practice facility unless they agreed to play in a boys’ league went on to win the whole thing — and yet was denied the championship trophy. Instead, the trophies were given to the boys who, to be clear were beaten by the girls in the league final.” End.
I read somewhere, btw, that the girls team was not awarded the trophy – not because they were girls – but because they were not in the same league or conference or whatever. They were an elite team playing in a league of scrubs or sumthin’. I don’t know why they were admitted in the first place, and it seems like if they were admitted, they should be eligible -cuz what’s the point, otherwise? – but I dunno.
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ZooeyModeratorWell, they tendered Hoecht, Jolly, and Rozeboom.
ZooeyModeratori think this is all being done in preparation for 2024. and if stafford was even just five years younger i’d be cool with it. but who knows how stafford looks in 2024. or maybe they have a plan there too. after thinking about it i’m not sure what more they could have done. ramsey held all the cards on this one. and more power to him by the way. i’ll always. almost always. side with the player. if he wasn’t willing to budge on his demands and the rams were set on getting rid of him what more could they have really got for him? if they try to get rid of him next year how does that impact the cap. does it just further delay the inevitable and waste another year of stafford? i don’t know. but it sure seems like they are conceding 2023. with hopes that they can be competitive in 2024. only problem is how good stafford will be in 2024.
Yeah, it looks like 2023 is over before it starts. But they are reloading for 2024.
I don’t understand it, but I am also aware that Snead and McVay know more about the football situation and the cap than I do. And they recently delivered a Lombardi. So I will just sit here hoping they are right.
I just don’t understand giving up on a team so quickly after winning the SB. According to reports, they weren’t even optimistic about last year even before the injuries ensured an awful season. On paper, though, the roster looked pretty much the same minus Von Miller and OBJ. The “general” roster strength besides the Stars seemed more-or-less the same to me, and replacing those guys didn’t seem impossible, even if some ground was lost there in overall quality.
But trading Ramsey finishes the team off, in my eyes. The CB situation is now looking “JV with upside.” And they still haven’t replaced Miller and OBJ.
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ZooeyModeratorThe entire league knows the Rams are an easy mark. They give up waay too much for players they want, and they ask for waay too little in comp for players they trade away.
It sure seems that way to me. Ramsey is still in his prime. Not only do I disapprove of this trade, I can’t even see a plausible rationale for it.
Hopefully, Rodrigue will explain this some day.
ZooeyModerator3rd rounder.
I give up.
So for 3 seasons, we gave up two firsts, and the remaining value is a 3rd and a TE.
M’kay. Better be a damn good TE.
ZooeyModeratorTrade is now agreed to, per sources:
🏈Dolphins get Pro Bowl CB Jalen Ramsey.
🏈Rams get 2023 third-round pick (No. 77) and TE Hunter Long.
Trade will be processed Wednesday, when league year begins. pic.twitter.com/0KJIeoS6fj
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 12, 2023
ZooeyModeratorElephant steals ladies hat, but kindly returns if, shows how intelligent and playful they are. 🐘
Credit: Jukin
💌Follow for the most inspirational stories of hope, love, tradition, family and art. pic.twitter.com/OhGmzZW7rn— Funniest Family Moments (@Funniest_Family) February 27, 2023
ZooeyModeratorRams released 2020-22 sack leader Leonard Floyd; quick look at the move
via @TheAthletic https://t.co/HaBx0i30SM— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) March 10, 2023
ZooeyModeratorI don’t see it as being as risky as you do. Replacing what Ramsey and Floyd offered in 2022 will not be a great challenge–they both backslid.
Ramsey was still a top-rated CB this season, and he did it without Donald for a good chunk of the season, and in the general falling off of the pass rush. I saw little of the season, as you know, but I’m not seeing this.
And letting Matt Gay sign elsewhere is going to save loose change. Are they out scouring bars for a replacement? What’s that about?
ZooeyModeratorA theory. Several Rams underperformed in 2022 and that’s before they got massively injured as a team. I think they had a few guys who took their rings from 2021 and slacked off. That includes Ramsey and Floyd. I think that’s who they want to replace–I think McV resented that happening. It clears cap space, and puts them in a position to develop talent to step up plus sign people.
I would think that it would be easier to try to coach Ramsey and Floyd back into the proper mindset than to replace them.
And, really, how hard must it be to put in the proverbial 110% when the team has completely fallen off a cliff?
ZooeyModeratorSubtracting talent from the team is not “reloading.” All of this looks like the Rams don’t expect to contend next year.
The #Rams do not care about winning in 2023. Matt Gay is going to go to the 49ers now probably https://t.co/nQ8iPSmIYy
— JAKE ELLENBOGEN (@JKBOGEN) March 7, 2023
ZooeyModeratorI have to say…
the Rams are quite good at identifying talent, and trading appropriate value to obtain it
and quite terrible at extracting value for trading away talent they have.
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March 1, 2023 at 11:17 am in reply to: Just a thread for different kindsa interesting things #143077
ZooeyModeratorThe Universe has an edge: not in space, but in #time.
"The edge of the Universe,as it appears to us,is unique to our perspective; we can see back 13.8 bn years in time in all directions, a situation that depends on the spacetime location of the observer."https://t.co/RigAvXa9nM— Venus Throw (@OneVenusThrow) February 28, 2023
ZooeyModeratorWish the Rams had those options.
Maybe they could have if they had gone 6-11 and 3-14 the past couple of years.
Personally, I will take Super Bowl LVI, and proceed from there.
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ZooeyModeratorBeing a progressive Democrat means fully supporting US warmongering but wanting aircraft carriers to be powered by green energy and sticking up for small-time mom and pop military-industrial complex war profiteers. https://t.co/Ah03HeahSl pic.twitter.com/lQ8YiKuGjc
— Caitlin Johnstone (@caitoz) February 25, 2023
February 24, 2023 at 8:28 pm in reply to: Ramsey to be traded? Floyd to be cut? Roster rumors #143049
ZooeyModeratorMakes no sense to me.
ZooeyModeratorThe Floyd and Ramsey stuff has to be placed in the “Rumor” category until it happens, but the way the wind is blowing, it sure seems like the Rams are clearing cap space by getting rid of players who seemed to be at the core of the philosophy that won them a Super Bowl.
It seemed apparent to me that the Rams were investing in critical superstars, and filling the roster with players they acquired by stockpiling a lot of 3rd day draft picks.
Now they seem to be shedding that core, and I don’t know what to make of that. To me, losing Wagner, Floyd, and Ramsey without apparent heirs on the roster is crazy. We are now down to Donald on defense.
On offense, there is Kupp and an aging Stafford. And whatever Cam Akers shows up.
That’s not a competitive roster. And I don’t get it.
ZooeyModeratorThe #Rams have had trade talks about six-time Pro Bowl CB Jalen Ramsey and league sources now believe it’s very likely Ramsey is dealt in coming weeks.
Ramsey, 28, is due $17 million in 2023 on a front-loaded deal that averages $20M and L.A. is clearing cap space. pic.twitter.com/vTYlX7nn5B
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) February 25, 2023
ZooeyModerator🙋🏼♂️ https://t.co/Pm6SVGl1Rx
— Cooper Kupp (@CooperKupp) February 22, 2023
ZooeyModeratorWhat do you think about this part, Zooey?
Yeah, I dunno. I agree that they shouldn’t take a hit just to “be nice” to him. He was here one year. It’s not like he was drafted by the Rams and spend 11 years here.
Why not trade him for a 6th round pick, or something? They got that for Woods, and Woods isn’t going into the HOF.
ZooeyModeratorThis is a bad sign, imo. Looks like Rams insiders (including Wagner) don’t think the Rams have enough to compete for a championship. And that they don’t think they can address their needs this year.
ZooeyModeratorFrom Jourdan at the Athletic:
The Los Angeles Rams and linebacker Bobby Wagner have mutually agreed to part ways, sources directly familiar with the situation told The Athletic. ESPN was first to report the news. Here’s what you need to know:
- Wagner, 32, played his first 10 seasons with the Seahawks before joining the Rams last season.
- He started 17 games for Los Angeles in 2022, totaling 140 tackles (81 solo) with six sacks and two interceptions.
- Wagner, a 6-time first-team All-Pro, helped Seattle win the 2014 Super Bowl.
- Sources directly familiar with the conversation said they were “positive” in nature.
The Athletic’s instant analysis:
Why both sides agreed to part ways
Wagner met with the Rams on Thursday for a conversation that one source characterized as really positive, and truly mutual. If it weren’t, the Rams could have saved more money against the cap by cutting or trading Wagner after June 1.
But that wouldn’t have allowed Wagner to pick his next team or would have meant joining a new team way too late in the offseason to fully onboard with them at his position.
Wagner is closing in on the final years of his career, and with all the uncertainty surrounding the rest of the Rams’ roster, it’s understandable if he wanted to find a situation that felt more “sure.” That’s why this is mutual.
Wagner can discuss his options with other teams starting now, a source said, but will officially be released when the new league year begins – reiterating the mutuality of the move. — Rodrigue
ZooeyModeratorHe’s 30.
That’s true. But so is OBJ. Woods and OBJ will be 31 for the 2023 season, and Kupp turns 30 this June. Rams haven’t had a top 50 pick in six years. That takes its toll. Teams with 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounders, year after year, can mix it up a bit more. They can hit core “need” areas like the trenches, and take a shot at the freakiest wideouts or running backs. The Rams have basically had to strike gold via FA and late rounders instead. That may include players other teams think have passed their prime . . . Regardless, I’m guessing it doesn’t happen.
The Rams have been trading for PROVEN players which is more of a Sure Thing<sup>TM</sup> than drafting players. They have been stockpiling late draft picks where quantity helps in unearthing quality. They won a Super Bowl doing this, and are in playoff position for this upcoming season.
Want me to reel off some Top 50 picks that amounted to diddly squat?
I am perfectly content with this strategy.
I do think the Rams need another WR (Woods, OBJ, or someone =), and they need to replace Von Miller. And depth everywhere.
I think the Rams can contend next season, though, if they can keep players on the field.
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