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  • March 11, 2025 at 8:48 pm in reply to: Rams signings & extensions: their own & outside FAs #155442
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    The LA Rams steal a perfect Jonah Jackson replacement as Bears hibernate
    This move is a perfect solution to the vacancy created by Jonah Jackson.
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    Mar 10, 2025
    When the LA Rams entered the 2024 NFL Free Agency market, the plan for the team was to re-sign starting center Coleman Shelton. But the Rams noticed the availability of former Detroit Lions Pro Bowl interior offensive lineman Jonah Jackson, and quickly pivoted from Shelton to Jackson. The Rams signed Jonah Jackson to a three-year deal worth up to $51 million. But when the time came to suit up for the regular season, Jonah Jackson was injured in Week 1. That sent rookie center Beaux Limmter onto the football field.

    And Limmer never looked back.

    Beaux Limmer, unlike the failed offseason experiments of Jonah Jackson or Steve Avila, is a natural center. As such, he fit quickly into the task of hiking the football while bracing to block determined defensive linemen and linebackers who had a full head of steam up to greet the ball carrier. And I won’t lie. as the season progressed, I wondered to myself why the Rams abandoned the original plan to re-sign Coleman Shelton.

    Well, the Rams permitted Jonah Jackson to seek a trade, and the Chicago Bears were happy to reach a deal. Not only did the Bears step up to take Jonah Jackson off the Rams’ hands for the price of a Round 6 pick in the 2025 NFL Draft, but they were happy to retain his compensation, projecting him as their starting left guard.

    Still, the trade of Jonah Jackson to the Chicago Bears leaves the Rams roster one player shy of a full complement of backup interior offensive linemen. The Rams tendered ERFA C Dylon McMahon, and have IOL Justin Dedich. But the team would have to repurpose an offensive tackle to backup right guard Kevin Dotson.

    Well, the LA Rams snuck in and stole free agent interior offensive lineman Coleman Shelton back from the Bears after being a 17-game starter for the Bears. While the Bears were busying forming a new starting offensive line, the Rams quietly but swiftly have come to terms with former starting center Coleman Shelton. While terms of the deal are not yet available, expectations are that the team has a team-friendly deal with Shelton to compete for either a starting or backup role in 2025:

    While he didn’t work out with the Bears, he did perform rather admirably. In 1121 offensive snaps, Shelton allowed three quarterback sacks and committed four penalties. His overall grade in 2024 from Pro Football Focus was 66.4. For comparison purposes, rookie center Beaux Limmer struggled a bit in 2024. In 915 offensive snaps, he allowed one quarterback sack but committed nine penalties. While his overall PFF grade of 57.6 is not bad, his pass blocking grade of 42.3 is alarming.

    The team knows that Coleman Shelton is better at pass blocking than that. So in one simple signing, the Rams have place Beaux Limmer on notice. Get better, or we will start a center who can. And as luck would have it, that replacement player is the very starting offensive center that the Chicago Bears replaced in this 2025 NFL Free Agency market.

    The Rams ended up with Coleman Shelton, and a Round 6 pick, for Jonah Jackson. In the end, the Rams came out much further ahead in this deal than I had originally expected.

    March 11, 2025 at 7:36 pm in reply to: around the league: including, Seahawks Trade Geno Smith to the Raiders #155439
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    zn wrote:

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    So, the 49ers:

    • Traded Deebo Samuel (Commanders), and released Kyle Juszczyk
    • Lost the following in Free Agency: Aaron Banks (Packers), Charvarius Ward (Colts), Talanoa Hufanga (Broncos), Dre Greenlaw (Broncos), Jaylon Moore (Chiefs), Elijah Mitchell (Chiefs), Josh Dobbs (Patriots)

    Must suck to start a rebuild without a ring to look back on…

    Oh, boy.

    Leonard Floyd just left the 49ers for the Falcons. Looks like a rebuild, and looks like they will be building around Brock Purdy.

    March 11, 2025 at 7:24 pm in reply to: around the league: including, Seahawks Trade Geno Smith to the Raiders #155438
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    wv wrote:

    McVay has a real chance to sweep Shannahan again.

    I am in favor of that.

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    Just think: if McCaffrey continues to age disgracefully, and Kittle gets old, and Aiyuk gets zero votes for Comeback Player of the Year, then Purdy is going to look very pedestrian, and Shanahan will find his seat warming up.

    March 11, 2025 at 7:18 pm in reply to: why Davonte Adams is good…update, must read: Matt Bowen on Adams #155437
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    InvaderRam wrote:

    and i’m only putting this out so the universe can prove me wrong.

    And we all thank you for your service. Your sacrifice will certainly be noted when we discuss and vote on the posting awards after the season.

    March 11, 2025 at 10:58 am in reply to: why Davonte Adams is good…update, must read: Matt Bowen on Adams #155428
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    March 11, 2025 at 10:41 am in reply to: around the league: including, Seahawks Trade Geno Smith to the Raiders #155427
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    zn wrote:

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    So, the 49ers:

    • Traded Deebo Samuel (Commanders), and released Kyle Juszczyk
    • Lost the following in Free Agency: Aaron Banks (Packers), Charvarius Ward (Colts), Talanoa Hufanga (Broncos), Dre Greenlaw (Broncos), Jaylon Moore (Chiefs), Elijah Mitchell (Chiefs), Josh Dobbs (Patriots)

    Must suck to start a rebuild without a ring to look back on…

    It’s kind of sad. I hope for the 49ers’ sake that at least they over-commit and overpay Brock Purdy, and he turns into David Carr.

    March 11, 2025 at 10:37 am in reply to: Rams signings & extensions: their own & outside FAs #155426
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    zn wrote:

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    New #Jaguars TE Hunter Long’s deal: Two years, $5 million with a $6 million max value. GM James Gladstone taps into a familiar face from his time with the #Rams.

    Well, that’ll put the Jags back in contention.

    How about those Bears, huh? Added 2 solid Guards and a Center. Looks like they intend to protect Caleb Williams more seriously this year.

    I like getting Shelton back. While Limmer amazed us all last year, I never reached full confidence in him. Now they need depth and development at OT, another TE, WR, and RB, and the offense is set.

    A shutdown CB and a ILB who can tackle Barkley would just about put a bow on it.

    March 10, 2025 at 8:28 pm in reply to: why Davonte Adams is good…update, must read: Matt Bowen on Adams #155413
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    InvaderRam wrote:

    i’m a little worried. just looking for examples of wrs who remained productive beyond age 32. it’s slim. there’s rice. marvin harrison. muhsin muhammad. and not much else.

    Remember he’s brought in to be a #2.

    The Rams like Wittington, and they will certainly take a WR in the draft.

    March 10, 2025 at 2:52 pm in reply to: around the league: including, Seahawks Trade Geno Smith to the Raiders #155401
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    The other shoe:

    The rumblings coming out of the Geno Smith trade look to indeed have produced a deal. Sam Darnold is expected to head to Seattle as the team’s first outside QB1 addition since Russell Wilson 13 years ago.Darnold and the #Seahawks are finalizing a deal worth nearly $100MM, #NFL.com’s Ian…

    — NFL Spy (@nflspy.com) 2025-03-10T18:32:23.691684Z

    March 10, 2025 at 2:42 pm in reply to: Rams signings & extensions: their own & outside FAs #155400
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    Never heard of him, but he looks like a good fit.

    More on the Rams agreeing to terms with DL Poona Ford, who was a priority target for them to shore up their exciting young defensive line: http://www.nytimes.com/athletic/619…

    — Jourdan Rodrigue (@jourdanrodrigue.bsky.social) 2025-03-10T18:41:04.808Z

    March 10, 2025 at 1:39 pm in reply to: Rams signings & extensions: their own & outside FAs #155399
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    March 9, 2025 at 11:44 pm in reply to: Rams signings & extensions: their own & outside FAs #155379
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    They’re getting nothing for Kupp. They will end up cutting him. He must be irreparably damaged. Todd Gurley kind of damage.

    March 9, 2025 at 12:41 pm in reply to: around the league: including, Seahawks Trade Geno Smith to the Raiders #155357
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    $40 million/year.

    With Myles Garrett locking in at $40M per year, this ups the ante for the next “highest-paid non-QB.” Good news for Ja’Marr Chase, Micah Parsons and others.

    — Ian Rapoport (@rapsheet1.bsky.social) 2025-03-09T16:06:08.918Z

    March 8, 2025 at 6:32 pm in reply to: early thread on the 2025 draft #155354
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    zn wrote:

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    Les Snead gave just enough of a non-answer yesterday when I asked (paraphrasing) whether the clear success of the young DL would preclude them from adding a veteran iDL in FA, to make me think that’s a market they are closely monitoring.

    Isn’t Brown gone? Or is he just unsigned?

    I love the DL, but seems like they could use a couple of earth-mover types who don’t allow tush pushes, and so on.

    March 7, 2025 at 3:49 pm in reply to: Rams signings & extensions: their own & outside FAs #155334
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    zn wrote:

    On paper, right now, before those contracts are factored in, they have around 54 M in cap space.

    Which is more than enough to sign me, but I’m not doing it unless they go back to the blue-and-whites.

    March 5, 2025 at 6:08 pm in reply to: Kupp says he will be traded #155306
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    zn wrote:

    Les Snead said the Rams are looking to find a trade partner for Cooper Kupp and while he didn’t rule out the receiver staying, he said that’s the “least likely” option.

    Since one of the options is giving him his unconditional release, this just underscores the fact that Kupp’s career with the Rams is over.

    March 5, 2025 at 1:08 pm in reply to: The Resistance #155300
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    Dems look like they're bidding on fascism at a silent auction

    — Chase Mitchell (@chasemit.bsky.social) 2025-03-05T03:39:30.040Z

    March 4, 2025 at 9:12 pm in reply to: Rams tweets etc. … 3/2 – 3/4 #155296
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    I would put Puka Nacua #1, and I don’t care about the rest of them because all of those guys are just system WRs.

    March 4, 2025 at 7:08 pm in reply to: early thread on the 2025 draft #155291
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    zn wrote:
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    Ram have met with top 3 TE prospects

    They also met with the top receivers.

    Hm. Interesting. So it appears that the Rams are considering players at multiple positions.

    That kind of strategic thinking is just another reason to have faith in the front office.

    March 4, 2025 at 6:48 pm in reply to: The Resistance #155290
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    Meanwhile, the Democrats are really going to put up a fight now.

    Democratic lawmakers are expected to communicate their opposition to Donald Trump during the president’s joint address to Congress on Tuesday night by color-coordinating.

    — New York Magazine (@nymag.com) 2025-03-04T21:25:35.946Z

    March 4, 2025 at 10:07 am in reply to: early thread on the 2025 draft #155279
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    FWIW.

    March 3, 2025 at 11:04 pm in reply to: a late start…time for the thread on Trump atrocities, or “Trumpocities” #155278
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    Satire is dead.

    In hand-to-hand combat, it was defeated by real life.

    March 3, 2025 at 10:31 pm in reply to: Rams tweets etc. … 3/2 – 3/4 #155276
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    zn wrote:

    They discuss the Rams at about 0.30 in.

    Interesting comment about McVay being unsentimental on personnel decisions.

    Can’t say he’s wrong. I’m going to keep an eye on that idea.

    March 2, 2025 at 8:06 pm in reply to: early thread on the 2025 draft #155265
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    zn wrote:
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    At this point, McVay and Snead’s track record is just too good for me to second guess, so I’ll probably be happy no matter what they do, until proven otherwise.

    I have one hesitation with that. Rams have been traditionally better in the 2nd round when McVay gets out of the way. When he tries to bring in a flashy skill player, they’re not as good. When he steps aside and lets the OL coach and D coordinator step up, they’re better.

    History.

    #1. McVay after offensive flash:

    2021 2 Tutu Atwell
    2020 2 Cam Akers
    2020 2 Van Jefferson
    2017 2 Gerald Everett

    @2. McVay stepping back & letting the D and the line grunts guys do it:

    2024 2 Braden Fiske
    2023 2 Steve Avila
    2019 2 Taylor Rapp

    On #2, a 66.66% hit rate.
    On #1, arguably a 0% hit rate, or 25%, depending on how you rate Atwell.

    …

    That’s a different thing, though. You’re talking about Hit Rates on picks. I’m talking about the player position/type that McVay wants. If he thinks he needs a TE more than a WR, then I trust that he does. Whether he falls in love with the right TE is another story.

    March 2, 2025 at 12:02 am in reply to: around the league: March #155260
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    And the Rams got a 6th for Robert Woods, iirc. That being so, a 5th for Samuel seems about right to me.

    Good WRs – and I mean B or B+ guys – seem to be a dime a dozen.

    March 1, 2025 at 11:56 pm in reply to: early thread on the 2025 draft #155259
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    zn wrote:

    I think they need a receiver, not a TE. Rams big flaw on offense: outside speed.

    I’d say the same thing. Conventionally.

    But McVay wanted to trade up for Bowers last year, and the Rams lacked outside speed last season,too.

    At this point, McVay and Snead’s track record is just too good for me to second guess, so I’ll probably be happy no matter what they do, until proven otherwise. If McVay thinks his offense needs a TE more than outside speed, well, he’s a Super Bowl winning coach, and I’m a high school teacher.

    March 1, 2025 at 10:26 pm in reply to: around the league: March #155256
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    canadaram wrote:

    No more Deebo Samuel running roughshod through the Rams secondary twice a year.

    Last year, Deebo Samuel torched the Rams for 3 yards rushing, and 16 yards receiving.

    The guy is pretty much done, imo. He will go off once for the Commanders, and then limp off to Tennessee or Cleveland to finish his career.

    February 28, 2025 at 9:38 pm in reply to: Rams signings & extensions: their own & outside FAs #155240
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    zn wrote:
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    Does “restructure” imply no extension, as in still just for 2025 & 2026?

    I think so.

    I think it also implies no salary increase.

    Just a difference in what gets paid when, and how much is guaranteed.

    February 28, 2025 at 9:36 pm in reply to: Stafford’s future … update, he signed & is staying #155239
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    wv wrote:

    Well, shit. Aaron Rogers would have looked good in horns.

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    It’s true.

    Everybody looks better in horns. Even Aaron Rodgers.

    But I think I’d really like to see him in a Raiders helmet. Then my hatred can be completely unleashed, and the schadenfreude will be orgasmic.

    February 28, 2025 at 2:16 pm in reply to: Stafford’s future … update, he signed & is staying #155219
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    joemad wrote:

    Was there any doubt that he would stay in So Cal?

    Fuck the Raiders, Tom Brady and New York, ……California is the place you want to be.

    But, Aaron Rodgers would’ve been kind of cool to see in a Rams uniform….

    BTW, I thought NFL players had clauses not to ski or participate in other hazardous activities??? And is the skiing really that good in Montana?

    Rodrigue’s interview that zn posted in the wee hours made it sound like a more open question than I had previously thought it was, but I infer that whatever numbers LV and NY presented to Stafford were within the range that the Rams were thinking, or not so much higher that Stafford would be willing to go to one of those destinations. I would, in Stafford’s position, compromise something (10% or so?) to stay in LA, rather than go to one of those forlorn franchises. A competitor like Stafford isn’t going to want to end his career like that when the money isn’t life-changing, I wouldn’t think. If he gets another SB (and he might with the Rams, but wouldn’t in NY or LV, probably)…he will be a HOF lock.

    I don’t know for sure which activities are prohibited, but that may vary by player. And he may not have been skiing. Presumably he was, but I’ve been to ski resorts without hitting the slopes.

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