I don’t see either one of them beating Trump, but Sanders has a better chance.

Biden is not a guy who can take abuse. Remember how he folded up against Kamala? And Trump specializes in that kind of abuse. Mocking people is his forte. Wagging the dog is what Trump does best. Biden will be sorry he’s still alive after facing Trump. I’m ALREADY sorry for him.

What is Biden running FOR? Associate ANYTHING with Biden. Go ahead. I dare you.

His platform is “I’m not Trump” and “I’m friends with Obama.” Name one other thing.

Now, I am sure his team will compose some lovely Glittering Generalities to photoshop onto his image, but those will wilt, and look ridiculous under the studio lights. This guy is Hillary Clinton without the accomplishments, talent, wit, or composure. What on earth makes anybody think he can perform better than Hillary did?

This is the end. Biden will not only reassure 4 more years of Trump, he will probably cost us any chance of taking the Senate, so we are fucked. Ginsburg is going to be replaced by Stephen Miller or Heinrich Himmler. It’s over. Nothing left to do but go watch the planet die from a bamboo bungalow in Thailand.

I told my wife I wanted to marry Krystal Ball, and she said she’s fine with it, so….

I thought about asking her to a ballgame, and proposing on the big screen. I hope she’s not a 49ers fan, though.

Naomi Klein is second on my list if Krystal turns me down.

I think Bernie should run on the Green New Deal. Use it as an umbrella for a huge transformation in our economy, and our system, that paves the way for a Utopian future where we all get rich off renewable energy, and minorities get access to the American Dream. I think Sanders runs Against things too much, personally. I think he needs to run FOR an all-inclusive sustainable future.

I also think he should play his hand more forcefully. Subtly let them know that they can either concede peacefully, or there is the option of civil disobedience. He has to be willing to play that card, though. I learned as a teacher and a parent that you cannot make threats that you aren’t willing to follow through with. He has leverage. He needs to show that he knows he has leverage.

Well, I saw an argument that actually Super Tuesday was bad for Biden because – while he won some states he shouldn’t have – he underperformed overall compared to Clinton vs Sanders. Maybe I will stick it in the ST thread.

I’ve decided to marry Krystal Ball, btw.

And…btw…this whole “Bernie Bros were mean” thing just tells you everything about Warren, don’t it? Like…she could be making the rounds talking about Medicare for All and banking problems and climate change, but she’s going around whining to Maddow and whomever about Bernie Bros. Where are those progressive causes you care about, Liz?

Beat Trump.

Beat Trump.

Beat Trump.

That’s the Democrat mantra.

Now…I wanna ask something: How hard is it to see Biden as representing exactly the kind of government that led to Trump in the first place?

Sanders is the threat to Trump. Not Biden.

I don’t know, W. If we didn’t have the Electoral College, and the popular vote actually determined the winner, I would be in a serious pickle. As it is, California is not going to go to Trump no matter how I vote. My vote counts only as a personal statement, not as a vote. I’m not as deep in despair as WV is, though I’m not far from it. I have kids, though. I can’t give up. I do not want them to suffer because of climate catastrophe.

My wife and I were gently chiding our daughter the other day over her teenage fondness for junk food, and she said, “It doesn’t matter. Climate change is going to kill me before this does.”

My wife chuckled. I didn’t.

Well, I’m in despair.

I really think we have a pretty awesome planet here, and I am sorry to see it destroyed by greedy sociopaths.

I have no confidence that Biden can beat Trump. He looks muddled and lost from time-to-time. And his primary draw seems to be he isn’t Trump. That’s what the Democrat establishment is running on. Not Trump. And that’s important, but I also think it’s not enough.

And if Biden loses, the courts are gone. And if the courts are gone, they will formally disenfranchise minorities from voting in a variety of ways, and we won’t be able to regain the government through the ballot box. And they will move to voting machines that produce whatever numbers they want anyway. They’ve already undermined confidence in polls, so people won’t really have any idea what’s going on anymore, and…we’re dead. So…you know…placing hopes of averting that on Joe Biden does make me sad. That’s it. Joe Biden. He’s the people’s Last Champion. A man in mental decline who is Not Trump.

Not exactly Henry V.

Yippee.

waterfield wrote:

And Bloomberg takes votes from Biden so he gets to stay in too. Sanders will do well in Calif-maybe not as high as previously expected. Both Biden and Sanders hope for the magic 15%. One of them won’t get it. Likely Warren. Then we will have a contest for the Democratic voters-progressive or moderate. Both want the same end result but each has a different path.

I think both of their chances (you meant Warren, not Sanders) of hitting 15% in California gratly increased with the dropouts from the race. They only need a few of those votes to put them over 15%.