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ZooeyModeratorAlbert Breer@AlbertBreer
Objectively now, we have data from nearly 3 weeks of padded practices in the NFL, a month of camp at some colleges, and games starting in HS and college … is there any evidence the sport is the super-spreader of COVID-19 some are positioning it to be?Doesn’t seem that way.
And again, I’m not arguing that the virus is non-existent in football. And I was skeptical at first, too. All I’m saying is the idea that the sport of football would be totally impossible amid all of this hasn’t held up so far.
That could change. But that’s where we are.
Well…I wouldn’t think it likely people would get it DURING a game. It’s what they do elsewhere, and in the locker rooms and meeting rooms where the risk is greatest. I would think.
ZooeyModeratorThat’s a good statement by Carroll.
“Black people know the truth. They know exactly what’s going on. White people don’t know.”
I’m not among the Carroll haters, anyway, since I’m more-or-less a USC fan. And, also, I have always liked the Seahawks better than the Rams. I might as well come out with it.
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ZooeyModeratorStay to the end, and listen to my favorite political slogan of all time.
MY NEW VIDEO: #OpenLetterToRepublicans SOUND UP!!
We don't have to reach all of them, BUT we do need to reach some of them.
We need 20,000 retweets of this video.
Please make sure you watch to the very end. pic.twitter.com/wqUcpz8MU6
— Don Winslow (@donwinslow) August 30, 2020
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Sexual assault is a terrible thing, obviously, but the underlying crime really has nothing to do with it. Its not supposed to, anyway. I know it will in the public-mind.
All that matters is the question of ‘Was deadly force necessary?’ At the time.
Did he, or didnt he, have a knife in his hand. Was he swinging it at the cop?
A knife on the floor of the car is not an immediate threat to the cops.So far the media does not seem to have any of the critical facts.
But so far, it ‘looks like’ the cops over-reacted. Imho.
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vThe cop shot him SEVEN times. In the back.
How is this even up for debate?
ZooeyModeratorHere is an example of that Invisible Racism, that perception that white people don’t THINK is racist, but shows the bias.

Kyle Rittenhouse was armed with an AR-15 when cops gave him water and waved him along after he shot three people. I wonder if you can explain the difference, Megyn.
ZooeyModeratorI fear it may work. He directly and indirectly broke the law, using the backdrop of the White House for his campaign/convention, but since nothing he does seems to matter, and he almost never pays any price for it, it will likely give him a bounce in the polls.
And all of those people squished together, mostly without masks? Reports are that only the people in the first few rows were tested for Covid. But I’m skeptical of that. Sounds like White House propaganda to me.
My guess is everyone was tested. They wanted to present an image of America no longer beset by this plague, and the Glorious Leader who made that happen. Unless everyone around Trump is as psychotic as he is, I don’t think they’d risk another Tulsa-like super-spreader event. But, who knows? This isn’t our grandparents’ Twilight Zone. It’s from another dimension altogether.
And, yeah, Trump is the all-time King of Lies. And it’s not close.
Trump may win, but this photo op isn’t going to be a difference-maker. I have never seen any studies on it, but I have a hunch that the majority of people who watch conventions are politically active people who already have their minds made up. Casual observers may have reactions to the photos and video highlights of these things, but their reactions to this will be buried by several more visceral layers before November. And…frankly…it’s hard to imagine that there really are very many Likely Voters who haven’t already made up their minds. It’s about voter turnout…and whose votes get counted.
If he wins, it will be because of voter suppression.
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From CBS Sports
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ZooeyModeratorJust came here to share that news. Some good news, finally.
You know, I should have thought of that, that you would want to do that, and just let you have the posting.
I just saw it and posted it, without thinking beyond that.
Don’t ever, for a second, imagine that I care about that.
That’s Ego stuff. I have no need to be the One who ever…anything.
I don’t care. I just came in to update something I posted which turns out to have jumped the gun. That you beat me to it makes no difference. At least, not to me. No limelight stolen. Don’t care.
ZooeyModerator2,000-year-old redwoods survive wildfire at California’s oldest state park
Though feared destroyed, most of the ancient trees at Big Basin Redwoods State Park withstood the blaze.Just came here to share that news. Some good news, finally. Or…at least it’s not Bad News, so that stands out in 2020.
ZooeyModeratorSo…I joined Facebook when a bunch of friends at a high school reunion convinced me it was the way to stay in touch. And after that, I began accepting Friend requests as they came in, for the most part. This is a post from a guy who is the father of a couple of kids I had in my theatre program. I don’t know what to say about this, except, Wow.

ZooeyModeratorThis stands a chance of becoming the longest thread ever.
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ZooeyModeratorI don’t know where to put this, so…here:
August 24, 2020 at 11:34 am in reply to: Trump wants to fast-track COVID vaccine before election #119893
ZooeyModeratorDo you really think Trump will go to jail? I’m skeptical.
With Trump…the role of his ego cannot be overstated. He does not want to lose because he does not want to lose. And he does not care what kind of damage, or to whom, he causes in that pursuit.
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August 22, 2020 at 1:49 pm in reply to: Trump admits (today) that he’s trying to sabotage vote-by-mail. #119809
ZooeyModeratorThanks, Zooey for the link.
Ya got some mail. Old, infrequently accessed address?
Junk folder. Never, ever would have seen that email if I hadn’t seen this post.
August 22, 2020 at 11:27 am in reply to: Trump admits (today) that he’s trying to sabotage vote-by-mail. #119806
ZooeyModeratorGood summary of the chain of events:
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August 19, 2020 at 10:05 pm in reply to: Trump admits (today) that he’s trying to sabotage vote-by-mail. #119658
ZooeyModeratorI read today that there isn’t time to reinstall them, that the installation takes quite a long time.
So…that article says mailboxes were removed because people are mailing fewer letters.
But it doesn’t explain why the sorting machines were removed.
ZooeyModeratorI’m thinking that Al Franken should get back in the pool.
ZooeyModeratorI’m interested in this little town: Sagres. It is on the southern end of Portugal, and I am attracted by the fact that the west coast of the town is the Atlantic, and the East coast is the Mediterranean. Just…kind of cool. And it’s in a national park. Never been there; maybe it’s boring. But I’m interested. Also Lisbon.
I think I may go over there and travel before picking a location, but maybe I will apply for a teaching job and just go to wherever that is, and make my next move from there.
August 18, 2020 at 6:52 pm in reply to: Trump admits (today) that he’s trying to sabotage vote-by-mail. #119535
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ZooeyModeratorPortugal is very high on my list. France, Italy, Mallorca. Maybe Malta.
Vietnam is high on my list if/when I return to Asia, but I want to return to Europe first.
So I’ll see you in Portugal.
How’s the health these days, Billy?
ZooeyModeratorTHIS is the pull quote from Michelle Obama? THIS is the Big Takeaway from Night 1/4?

ZooeyModeratorWhile some on this board act as if they despise and hate any democratic centrist like Biden-calling him a piece of shit-I’ve never felt that way about Sanders or any progressive. I like both him and AOC and respect both. Maybe I just think differently.
I’m glad to hear that.
I think it’s safe to say that most Democrat loyalists DON’T think that way, though. I mean… the DNC is giving AOC 60 seconds of time. And Sanders got 3 minutes, I think. Maybe 4, but I think it was 3.
They are giving more than that to John Kasich, a Republican. And I know they are playing the “Republicans for Biden” card, but that sends a message. That is not lost on us.
ZooeyModeratorEnh. Missed opportunities there, imo. Looks very techno-industrial. Stainless steel, glass, and concrete. Yuck.
I would like to see what Disney would do with this. Themed regions around the stadium with different “feels” to them. Artwork of great Rams, great moments. Los Angeles stuff…cars, beaches, I dunno. Interactive Rams crap. Your chance to virtually saw a Jeep in half with a hacksaw. A statue of The Tackle. Shit, you know. Give the place a vibe.
This is like a fucking airport.
ZooeyModeratorAt the risk of losing a friend let me say something profound:
Since I’ve been posting on this board-like for a hundred years-I’ve noticed that 99.9 % of the political criticisms are directed at the democrats. A very, very, tiny number are directed at the Republicans. Might I suggest you and all others here move to the other side of the field?
It’s my observation that – on the web, and probably in real life, too – people notice the stuff they disagree with a lot more than the stuff they agree with. If you think about it, that makes sense for psychological reasons. Stuff that you agree with is unremarkable. Stuff you find objectionable is going to hit you 100% of the time.
And…I have to say, in light of that, I’m glad you still come to the board from time-to-time, W. I am sincere about that. You are a good voice here, and I always read what you have to say with interest.
Meanwhile…I agree with zn.
And I will also add that you will find more criticism of the US than of other countries. That’s not because we HATE the US. It’s because its actions reflect us. We are a part of it. Similarly, although we don’t identify with the Democrats, it’s the party that represents The Left politically. We criticize it because it disappoints us in that respect. The GOP doesn’t disappoint us. It does not stand for us in any way, and we don’t expect it to ever represent us.
But I think that you will find that every person in this forum agrees with Chomsky’s assertion that the GOP is the most dangerous organization in the history of the world. Without question.
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