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    Stu Jackson@StuJRams
    Rams RT Rob Havenstein said even with competition within OL room, guys have been going out of their way to help each other, which has been “awesome to see.”

    He’s mentioned this to me before, but he also said they like each other, which also helps.

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    in reply to: Rams Pick at 182 … Hodges-Tomlinson, CB #143990
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    SeattleRams@seattlerams_nfl
    “If Hodges-Tomlinson was three inches taller and 20 pounds heavier with the same skill set he has now, I don’t think there’s any question that he’d be the top cornerback in this draft class, and perhaps the top non-quarterback.” -Doug Farrar on Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson
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    But that’s what we get with McSnead. We get brilliance at times, mixed with proverbial head-scratchers and emotionalism.

    I don’t think that’s what we get. What we get is unpredictable actions that defy the norm. The Rams have solved “cap hell” before, with much more strategic cuts and contract restructurings. In fact they consciously and deliberately made the 2023 cap situation worse by just going ahead and taking the big hit on dead money. The idea was, rather than just fix things and going back out with the roster we had, let’s just make it a young team in 2023 while creating cap space in 2024. That’s not desperation moves, that’s a plan. It’s just an unconventional plan.

    I think what they did this time is just the exact opposite of trading for Ramsey during the season while off-loading Peters at the same time–but even though it’s the opposite on paper, it is still the same thing in this sense: a re-thinking of the ordinary process. This time, they went for a re-load and not the big “put us over the top” trade. It defies conventional wisdom but then so did trading for Ramsey and Stafford at the same time while taking rentals on Von Miller and Beckham.

    I don’t see the reload as wrong in any way shape or form. I don’t see it as a crisis in any way shape or form. I see it as them doing what they do–which is not going to be conventional wisdom.

    And they have remarkable success for a team that presumably has a lot of “head scratchers.” Only 1 losing season in 5 years and that was due to an absolutely unprecedented string of injuries, the likes of which we’ve never seen with the Rams.

    In the middle of that I do see a couple of issues. So I am not playing the homer card. I criticize the Rams regularly. To me McV was impatient with Goff and hurt his confidence, but then it’s hard to argue against trading for Stafford. I didn’t like the Atwell pick in round 2, but then this draft they didn’t make that kind of mistake and it’s clear they drafted a top shelf OL who will be there for 10 years.

    They didn’t have to reload in 2023 but IMO deciding to do so was very smart.

    Though…it had better work… 😎

     

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    From Chad Reuter, Ranking favorite picks in every round: https://www.nfl.com/news/2023-nfl-draft-ranking-favorite-picks-in-every-round?campaign=Twitter_atn

    Zach Evans

    Drafted: No. 215 overall

    Speaking of low-risk, high-reward picks, that’s exactly what the Rams got in the sixth round with Evans. The Ole Miss running back is a top-five back in the class when on point, powering through contact, stiff-arming defenders and finding a burst in the second level to create explosive plays. Don’t be surprised if he takes some carries from Cam Akers this season.

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    Koll_0ne@Koll_0ne
    Grant Miller is a 6’3 306 iOL that has played center and guard. He was a RG his final 2 years. Miller isn’t a great athlete according to his RAS but he has 33” arms. Miller is a sound technician

    Miller isn’t a mauler but he is a mover in the run game. He regularly opens lanes for RBs. As a pass blocker he is pretty sound with a good anchor and balance. He does get too high at times and lose leverage and occasionally will over-extend in pass pro.

    Miller is always looking for work and he has good awareness. He uses his length well to keep defenders off of him. Overall I think he is good OL depth and worth developing from what I can see on film. He’s more of a phone booth guard.

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    Inside the Rams’ 2023 NFL Draft: Nerves at No. 36, ‘no-hitter’ treatment and top picks

    Jourdan Rodrigue

    link: https://twitter.com/JourdanRodrigue/status/1653763366509506562

    ENCINO, Calif. — Day 2 of the NFL Draft started with whispers and rumors, as it always does. This time, the Rams were involved.

    When Kentucky quarterback Will Levis dropped out of the first round, pundits and football fans speculated about a potential connection with the Rams, because head coach Sean McVay recently employed Liam Coen as offensive coordinator. Coen, who is back at Kentucky, successfully ran a version of McVay’s system with Levis in 2021.

    But Levis was never in the Rams’ plans. Internally their opinions about him were far from consensus. They entered the draft with the expectation to wait until Day 3 to pick up a quarterback who would back up Matthew Stafford. As they reset their draft board ahead of Friday’s second and third rounds, general manager Les Snead wrote their coaching and scouting consensus No. 1 player for Day 2 on a sheet of lined paper, and passed it around: TCU guard Steve Avila.

    Snead, who loves to play the antagonist, later openly smirked about the quarterback rumors in his post-draft press conference. He also had a U-T Chattanooga sweatshirt draped over the back of his chair in the war room upstairs, a wink at a mischaracterized viral moment from the 2022 first round when Snead and McVay tipsily cackled about the Patriots selection of offensive lineman Cole Strange — laughing at themselves for doing so much work on a player 90 picks out of their reach.

    This year, their first pick was at No. 36. And instead of spending their pick-less first round, ah, “bonding” with their staff, McVay and Snead stayed in the Rams’ war room on the second level of their 10,000-square-foot draft house in the San Fernando Valley.

    They were discussing a possible trade into the first round, and needed to remain upstairs — surrounded by analysts, other executives, their coordinators Mike LaFleur and Raheem Morris and their senior draft consultants, as well as several digital screens feeding them information on official picks and trades being filed over to the league as much as 15 minutes before the television broadcast displayed them.

    Thursday night, the Rams debated about five players — all offense — who either were falling, or could fall, far enough in the first round to merit a trade up. They “knocked on some doors,” Snead later said, to inquire about costs. Suddenly, the Giants made their move into pick No. 24 (the TV broadcast was only on pick No. 21 or 22 at that point) and the Jaguars flipped their new No. 25 to Buffalo. Shortly after, the group upstairs got its intel on how the rest of the first round would likely shake out and some started to make their way downstairs (the broadcast still only showing picks 23-24 by now).

    By Friday afternoon, with Avila locked in as their top target at No. 36 and league-wide smokescreens circulating, some on staff were getting nervous. A couple of assistant coaches, including new offensive line coach Ryan Wendell, started a game of bags in the backyard to try to settle down. Wendell hovered near the staircase as the second round began, in case the Rams were in reach of their guy. If he fell to them, Wendell would be called upstairs by McVay’s right-hand assistant, Carter Crutchfield, to get on the phone and help call in the pick (the Rams do this with all of their position coaches).

    A mini-run on the top two remaining tight ends started right ahead of the Rams — the Lions took Sam LaPorta, and then the Raiders traded up for Michael Mayer (perhaps believing the Rams would take him). Tight end was a need for the Rams, who thought very highly of several prospects in the class — but regarded no Day 2 player higher than Avila. They had a clear runway to file Avila over to the league office as their pick at No. 36, amid raucous applause and hollering.

    Wendell came back downstairs, took a breather, and then went outside and sank the game-winner in bags.

    Avila will likely immediately start for the Rams at either guard or center. He has excelled at both: a team captain who started for TCU at center before a transfer player/coaching change sent him to guard, where he didn’t allow a single sack in 2022 and became a consensus All-American.

    “(He is a) tough guy, I mean a large human being who moves very well for that size. A guy that is in the business of moving people,” said area scout Cedric Jones, who was the lead on Avila. He joked that watching Avila even got “boring” because he was just so consistent snap after snap.

    At No. 36, and later in the second round — all picks within the top 100, after trades from No. 69 to No. 73, then No. 73 to No. 89 left them with Nos. 77 and 89 — the Rams wanted players who could physically get on the field as early as possible. But also important were these specific players’ acumen for the sport and their leadership qualities. Because the Rams will be so young at so many positions, this draft was not just about filling holes — it was also about resetting a cultural foundation after a calamitous 2022. That only made Avila a more coveted player.

    “He has a great personality, he can relate to a lot of different people,” Jones said. “You can put that guy in, he’s gonna come and do his job. We’re pretty confident in that.”

    At No. 73, the Rams took Tennessee edge Byron Young. He went from no-star recruit who didn’t have the grades to attend a Division I school, to postgraduate school to get his grades together, to assistant manager at Dollar General where he saw a flier for tryouts at Georgia Military College in the spring of 2019. From there, Young (who also lost the 2020 season because of the pandemic), got his tape out to junior colleges and eventually signed with Tennessee. Area scout Billy Johnson latched onto Young around that time, but Young required some digging past just his short stint there. Senior personnel executive Brian Xanders went back over all of Young’s scraps of tape to get a better feel for the pressures and quarterback hits he amassed at his various stops.

    The Rams lack any sort of presence off the edge, and Young’s 4.43 40-yard dash speed was his most attractive athletic quality especially because their pass rush was frequently neutralized by opponents’ quick game in 2022. But Young’s run defense is still a big work in progress — and something he said new outside linebackers coach Joe Coniglio spoke about in-depth with him when they had a Zoom call in the weeks before the draft. The Rams still lack a player who can definitively play every down at outside linebacker.

    At pick No. 89, the Rams drew another rare consensus between scouts and coaches when they selected Wake Forest defensive tackle Kobie Turner.

    Turner is undersized (6-foot-2 and 293 pounds), but built like a barrel full of rocks. He’s also bright and self-aware, noting Friday night that he especially studied Rams star Aaron Donald’s tape from years ago to see how he developed his hands and technique. “Especially a few years back, knowing that I was a little undersized by other people’s terms, I learned just how good his hand placement is (and) how everything works in sync,” he said.

    Turner was compared to former Rams defensive tackle Greg Gaines, another undersized difference-maker, during his evaluation process. Gaines signed with Tampa Bay this spring. Like Gaines, Turner possesses an understanding of how all of the pieces of a pass rush interconnect and that is important when working in tandem with Donald, who can freestyle where he sees an advantage. In college, Turner created enough havoc along the interior defensive line to make quarterbacks hesitate (another trait identified for setting up Donald).

    “He’s just one of those guys that when you watch him play, there’s no play off,” Snead said.

    With their first three picks Friday night, it felt as though the Rams selected players who (in theory) would immediately help at least two in their aging three-man star core: Stafford and Donald.

    Pick No. 128, QB Stetson Bennett

    Day 3 of the draft started at 7 a.m. with two fresh pots of coffee, which awaited coaches and scouts on the countertop in the open-concept kitchen. Coniglio, among the first wave of coaches who helped drain a pot, started a third as the rest of the house started to fill with bustle and noise. After their two Day 2 trades, the Rams finally held a fourth-rounder (they called their former dearth of picks in that round “the black hole”), No. 128.

    Curiously at the time, former NFL quarterback Kellen Clemens paced, expressionless, through the house. He spoke to no one. In hindsight, his presence was a huge giveaway that the Rams were targeting a backup quarterback on Day 3. Internally, they had all agreed that they’d take a quarterback Saturday if one they liked got to one of their picks. Clemens was a consultant hired by the Rams in January to help them evaluate a giant class of quarterbacks, and they never announced it publicly like they had their other hires in order to hide their hand for the draft.

    As the staff filed one by one up the stairs and into the war room in the minutes before the fourth round began, they chatted quietly to one another about how they felt the board ahead of their pick would fall. Former Georgia quarterback Stetson Bennett was at the top of Snead’s list. The offensive staff liked him. The defensive staff especially liked him — whoever the Rams brought in as backup to Stafford would also run a live scout team against the first-team defense. That player would have to be capable of developing as a quarterback while at the same time being enough of a competitor to challenge and thus help develop a very young defense.

    The Rams also felt that a few teams around the league were pretending they weren’t as high on Bennett as they really were. One person involved in Bennett’s evaluation process said he had a pit in his stomach that morning, worrying they wouldn’t get him.

    So they gave Bennett the “no-hitter” treatment, to not jinx anything. They didn’t say his name or talk about him. They weren’t really in communication with him late in the draft process (to the point where he bought several different team hats pre-draft to ensure he had the right one on for his introductory Zoom press conference, not knowing who would pick him).

    Clemens had gone to Athens, Ga., and put Bennett through a series of mental evaluations including whiteboard work and in-game decision-making exercises. Clemens, silent all morning, was a totally different person after the pick was filed and even did a miniature press conference with reporters in the garage alongside director of draft management J.W. Jordan.

    Jordan said that even with all the talent around Bennett on Georgia’s title-winning rosters, he isn’t just a quarterback who stands and hands off the ball.

    “That’s what you think going in,” Jordan said. “So in a way, it’s like you’ve got to overcome that bias. But when you start watching him, you’re like, ‘Oh. This guy is more than just a cog in the wheel. He’s driving the bus — for better or worse, however good or bad he is, he’s driving the bus.”

    Bennett is just 5-foot-11, but that was less of a concern for Rams evaluators. They were more so drawn to the quality Jordan described. In 2022, they collectively finally understood the difference between “worst-case scenarios” for their offense: There is the situation in which the starting quarterback goes down and there is little chance the backup can come in and give the team a chance to win, and there is the situation in which the starter goes down and the team knows it has a shot to win. Like waiver wire acquisition Baker Mayfield, the fourth quarterback who started for the Rams in 2022, they believe Bennett is the latter.

    About that live scout team, and competing in practice …

    The Rams drafted a teammate of Bennett’s, offensive tackle Warren McClendon Jr., at No. 174 on Saturday. McClendon (who currently can plug in as a “swing” player capable of backing up multiple positions along the line) described a Georgia football tradition called “bloody Tuesdays.”

    “(It) was our most physical practice,” McClendon said. “Having that competition and coming into practice and practicing hard, I think we’ll both have success there.”

    Pick No. 161, OLB Nick Hampton

    Everything started moving very fast around this point. The Rams made three more trades (five total in the entire draft) to maneuver around the board.

    Hampton, a standout pass rusher at Appalachian State, got the call surrounded by his parents and two brothers. He answered on the first ring.

    “I fit their defense because it’s similar to what we did at App State,” Hampton said of the Rams. “I’m a relentless pass rusher. Always giving effort. I’m going to get to the quarterback and get the ball out.”

    Hampton, a strong and physical presence on the edge, was No. 84 on Bruce Feldman’s “Freaks list” for standout athleticism and one of seven players the Rams took a closer look at via Senior Bowl tape.

    Pick No. 175, TE Davis Allen

    New tight ends coach Nick Caley liked Allen, as long as he was a Day 3 pick. Allen is still growing into his skill set as a pass catcher and blocker, but has an intriguing foundation in both phases.

    “Dream come true,” said Allen, before spending the next few minutes of the call (somewhat endearingly) talking about all of the things he needs to improve.

    “There’s a lot of room for improvement for me, I think there always will be,” he said. “But I do think I can do a little bit of both.”

    Pick No. 177, WR Puka Nacua

    Nacua’s skill set is very familiar to Rams fans: He’s a physical yards-after-catch player with a real savviness for how the game works and the layers within an offense.

    His injury history is a concern and did contribute to his pick point. He and Rams star receiver Cooper Kupp share a former receivers coach in common, Junior Adams (now at Oregon).

    “Love Puka,” Adams said in a text message. “Growth mindset. Always trying to get better. Ultra-competitive with the ball in the air and loves doing the dirty work in the run game.”

    Pick No. 182, CB Tre Hodges-Tomlinson

    Hodges-Tomlinson, the nephew of Hall of Fame running back LaDanian Tomlinson and last year’s Jim Thorpe Award winner, is under the Rams’ usual height profile at cornerback (he’s 5-foot-8). But he also has outstanding ball skills and athleticism, is twitchy, tenacious and smart — characteristics the Rams need in their secondary in order to get back to a stickier, more aggressive match zone.

    Tomlinson definitely, definitely has a chip on his shoulder because of how late he was selected in the draft. He knows it was because of his height.

    “People degrade me, even though I’ve done as much as I’ve done in this game of football and continued to prove (them) wrong,” he said. “You know, it seems to still go over others heads. The Rams, you know, they believed in me. They chose to make the pick. So I’m gonna make sure that this pick right here is gonna be one of the greatest picks they’ve ever had. I’m ready to get to work, and I’m gonna continue to show others why they shouldn’t have passed up on me.”

    Pick No. 189, OLB Ochaun Mathis

    Mathis was a late-round favorite of Morris. He was very impressive at TCU in 34 starts (32 tackles for loss in those games), but didn’t play much after transferring to Nebraska ahead of the 2022 season.

    “Mathis has impressive physical traits with his size measurables and athletic tools, but his play strength and pass-rush instincts are underdeveloped,” The Athletic’s lead draft analyst Dane Brugler said. “His raw talent is better than his tape, making him a potential draft-and-develop rusher for an NFL team.”

    Pick No. 215, RB Zach Evans

    For the second year in a row, the Rams traded up for a running back. Evans was projected to be selected on Day 2 of the draft, but fell in part because of some past injuries and also for what Brugler called “baggage,” referring to Evans as a “boom or bust” prospect, “but there is no denying his burst and balance to create explosive plays in different ways.”

    Pick No. 223, P Ethan Evans

    Late Saturday afternoon, special teams coordinator Chase Blackburn and assistant Jeremy Springer hunched in one corner of the house’s first floor, cheeks flushed, surrounded by screens and papers. The coaches and the scouts knew that the top kicker and punter in this year’s draft class would likely be selected with higher picks than they would be allotted for the position group. But the Rams entered the draft with zero specialists on their roster, so they had to have a strategy to fill every spot.

    If the top kicker(s) were picked before the Rams, they would draft either a punter or a long-snapper, the latter with the latest picks if it came to that and the former only if the right punter fell to the right pick in the seventh round. Then, they would go all-in recruiting multiple kickers to their undrafted free agent class, and whichever third specialist position they didn’t draft.

    Both special teams coaches had been on the road visiting prospects all spring. Blackburn attended the Wingate pro day (a private Division II college in North Carolina with a student population of about 2,500) this spring, and took Evans out to dinner — a nice place, added Evans, noting he’s from a small mountain town and that Blackburn “could’ve taken me to McDonald’s, I wouldn’t care.”

    The two had a good connection. Evans, just 21 years old, has an impressive leg and finesse even though he’s still growing. Blackburn liked that Evans knew a little Rams history: former special teams greats Johnny Hekker and Greg Zeurlein came into the 2012 class together, and built something impressive from the ground up. As the seventh round began and he headed upstairs, Blackburn was practically vibrating from excitement — they believed Evans would fall to them at pick No. 223, and Blackburn would get to make the call for the first time in his career.

    The word Snead used to describe Blackburn throughout the pre-draft process (it’s not a real word, but typically Snead): “Thorough-cus. … Thorough plus focused.”

    Pick No. 234, S Jason Taylor

    Taylor, an Oklahoma State standout who was projected to be drafted in the late fourth or early fifth round, instead watched with his family as pick after pick came off the board. He sank deeper into sadness and frustration as time passed, and finally walked into the backyard with his mom so that the two could discuss his options as an undrafted free agent.

    Then, the Rams called. Taylor’s mom got to listen in as Snead told him they were drafting him, and then they both hurried inside to inform the rest of the family.

    “This is all so quick, you know? I just got drafted!” Taylor said over the phone, emotional and fighting to keep his voice even. “I’m here talking now, and I’m just full of happiness and gratefulness.”

    Taylor’s voice finally cracked as his tears began to flow. “I think just being with my family, um, I think this is the most special moment. All of this, we went through this process together just to get to this point and the fact that I got a lot of my family here, enjoying each other and having a good time … that’s what makes this special.”

    His journey from the draft into his NFL career, if he can stay on course, draws parallels to other Rams safeties who have worked their way up from humble rookie beginnings: Nick Scott and Jordan Fuller.

    Pick No. 259, DL Desjuan Johnson

    This year (via trade) the Rams held the final pick in the draft — a bit tiresomely named “Mr. Irrelevant”. Johnson was a tackle-for-loss machine in college, albeit at the MAC level, and (on theme for this Rams draft class), a little undersized at his position. He’ll get a chance to compete for a depth role, though, because their roster is so thin on defense.

    “I didn’t know it was the last pick, or ‘Mr. Irrelevant’, until we made the trade,” quipped Snead.

    The Rams drafted 11 players Saturday, and then agreed to terms with 24 undrafted free agents (they hit 25 by Monday night). Their roster overall faces a steep uphill climb this season. That is next week’s problem. As the sun started setting over the San Fernando Valley, a few scouts cracked beers (and hard seltzers, no judgment) and turned their attention to one last game of bags.

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    from https://theramswire.usatoday.com/lists/rams-nfl-draft-grades-experts-2023-class-report-card/

    Touchdown Wire – Grade: B

    Doug Farrar liked what the Rams did at the top of the draft, particularly with their first pick, Steve Avila. He questioned the selection of Stetson Bennett in the fourth round, however, which many fans and analysts have done, too.

    I love the addition of Steve Avila up top — he’s a natural power blocker who will work his way into that depleted offensive line right away. And Tennessee’s Byron Young is a hybrid-sized (6-foot-2, 250-pound) rusher who had nine sacks and 42 total pressures last season. The fifth round was a value round for the Rams — Warren McClendon Jr. was a personal favorite as was Puka Nacua, Davis Allen should thrive in Sean McVay’s offense, and if Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson was six feet tall and weighed 200 pounds, we’d have been talking about him as we were talking about Devon Witherspoon, Christian Gonzalez, and Joey Porter Jr.

    Full analysis: Click here

    NFL.com – Grade: A-
    Chad Reuter wasn’t as critical of the Bennett pick, saying he has the tools to potentially replace Matthew Stafford after he retires – though he needs to do some maturing, too. He also liked the selections of Avila and Taylor in the first three rounds, but he believes Kobie Turner went earlier than expected.

    Analysis: Super Bowl-winning quarterback Matthew Stafford functioned as the Rams’ first-round pick again this year. The team added more picks through various Day 2 trades. Adding Avila bolsters the interior of the offensive line, while Young’s closing ability gives him a chance to become an effective edge defender. Turner was a productive player at Richmond and Wake Forest but went a bit earlier than projected.

    Full analysis: Click here

    Pro Football Focus – Grade: A-
    Pro Football Focus noted that Young isn’t a finished product as a pass rusher, but the potential is there for him to become a quality player. Turner got some good recognition from the analytics site, which viewed him as one of the most underrated players in the entire draft.

    The Rams grab one of the most underrated players in the class. After producing at an elite level in the FCS for Richmond, Turner transferred to the Demon Deacons and earned a 92.2 PFF grade in 2022 — the second-best mark in the Power Five, behind only Georgia’s Jalen Carter. Turner plays with excellent leverage and possesses strong hands and quicks.

    Full analysis: Click here.

    Sports Illustrated – Grade: B
    Gilbert Manzano, who used to cover the Rams, gave them a grade of ‘B’. He views Avila as a potential starter at guard next season and the team’s center of the future, while Young fills a clear need at edge rusher. Turner should get better after learning from Aaron Donald, too.

    The Rams were smart to add depth to the offensive line after the starting unit was decimated by injuries in 2022. Avila could compete for a guard spot next year and possibly become the center of the future. L.A. followed with another smart decision, addressing its pass-rushing need by selecting Young, who could provide that after recording seven sacks last season. Turner lacks ideal size as a defensive tackle, but he’s a polished pass rusher and will get to learn from Aaron Donald. The Rams made noise on Day 3 after selecting Bennett to be the backup for Matthew Stafford. — G.M.

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    The Ringer – Grade: C+
    Danny Kelly noted how large the Rams’ draft class is, consisting of 14 total players. The quantity is there, but he doesn’t believe they found a star in this class. And while Byron Young is an older prospect, Kelly sees him as “an athletic marvel.”

    I’m also a fan of day-three role players Clemson tight end Davis Allen, BYU pass-catcher Puka Nakua, and Ole Miss running back Zach Evans, the latter of whom could push Cam Akers for carries early on. This wasn’t the flashiest group of players for the Rams, and I’m not sure I see a star. But L.A.’s got to rebuild the depth of their roster—and this was a solid start.

    Full analysis: Click here

    FOX Sports – Grade: B
    Eric D. Williams gave the Rams a ‘B’ for their class, noting that Bennett should be a “solid backup” to Stafford. Young will help replace Leonard Floyd on the edge, and Avila should shore up an offensive line that turned into a revolving door last season.

    The Rams had several needs to fill, particularly on the defensive side, where Aaron Donald is one of the few starters sticking around. Tennessee edge rusher Byron Young should help replace the production left vacant by the departure of Leonard Floyd. TCU product Steve Avila helps bolster an offense that started 14 different offensive-line combinations in 2022. Georgia quarterback Stetson Bennett should be a solid backup for the aging Matthew Stafford.

    Full analysis: Click here

     

    From Roundup: Grades for and reactions to Rams’ 2023 NFL Draft picks

    Stu Jackson

    https://www.therams.com/news/rams-2023-nfl-draft-grades

    CBS Sports’ Pete Prisco: B

    Prisco says TCU guard Steve Avila (Round 2, No. 36 overall) was the Rams’ best selection.

    “The Rams didn’t have a first-round pick — shocking, right? — but they made the most of the picks they did have,” Prisco writes. “They picked a lot of good players. In addition to Avila, I liked a lot of their picks, including third-round edge Byron Young. Sixth-round corner Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson is a quality player, who could be a good nickel. This team is being overhauled and this is the kind of draft that gives a team some good, young bodies to help make it happen.”

    Sporting News’ Vinnie Iyer: B-

    “The Rams, for a change, loaded up on draft picks after not having a first-rounder again,” Iyer wrote as part of his analysis. “There’s a lot of volume here, with Avila, Young, McLendon, Hodges-Tomlinson and Zach Evans standing out as the most valuable picks for Les Snead and Sean McVay.”

    ESPN’s Todd McShay says Tennessee outside linebacker Byron Young was the Rams’ best value pick (subscription required to read full analysis).

    “Hitting on the Day 2 and 3 picks is going to be important, and I think a lot of prospects in the Rams’ rookie class will have a chance to start at some point this season,” McVay wrote as part of his breakdown. “So getting an impact edge rusher such as Young in the third round? Massive. He has a really explosive first step and closing burst, and it’s no surprise that Young lit up the combine with a 4.43-second 40 at 250 pounds, along with wild 11-foot broad and 38-inch vertical jumps. All three numbers were first or second among edge rushers.”

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    the Rams traded Jalen Ramsey, essentially, for Byron Young and Hunter Long.

    Here’s another way to see that, which I have kind of already mentioned. I think they traded Ramsey for (1) 2024 cap space, and (2) a more aggressive, attacking front 7. How well the secondary does depends, I guess, on Rochell?

    One thing Rodrigue said in her excellent podcast this week is that “Rams” are “sick to death of the quick passing game getting to the defense.” (That’s here:  https://theramshuddle.com/topic/11-personnel-w-rodrigue-hammond-on-the-draft/ ). So I think what they’re doing is changing up the attack by adding all sorts of potential starters and rotational players to the front 7 with an emphasis on passing downs. Ideally you want to do that with Ramsey still on the team but they couldn’t both keep Ramsey and maximize the 2024 cap.

    BT, I agree with your thoughts about loading up one year and then drafting to add key pieces after that. I just tend not to call this a rebuild, it’s more like a re-stocking effort. If it were a rebuild they would be wasting Stafford, Kupp, and Donald. IMO they have enough at OL to score points, pull off a winning season, and force the opposing offense to play catch-up against a young defense (and I think that could work just often enough to make a difference).

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    As a whole, I liked the draft quite a lot. We picked some potential studs at positions we were certainly weak in. My biggest collective gripe is that we probably had the oldest draft class in the NFL. I doubt that was by accident. The Rams want mature and ready to play guys to that we can compete this season. In addition, a lot of these guys were team captains. I voted B+ and thought they had a great draft.

    OL – Avila – A

    Mine, and many others, top rated IOL (outside of Skoronski as he was drafted at OT). Huge get for the team as he can play any interior position well. That will allow us to have more of just “the best 3 guys” out there on the interior at any given time.

    Edge – B.Young – B+

    He was by no means my favorite edge going in the draft, but, the edge position was just hammered in the first 2 rounds, so, what are you going to do? I think they best edge that was on the board. After more research on the guy, he has as much potential as any of them and is likely the most athletic edge that was in the draft. Young has a real shot of being productive on this team.

    DL – K.Turner – B

    PFF loves this kid for a reason (top rated DL prospect in the nation, even over Carter). He’s an all around Dl with ability in the pass and the run. I’m not a fan of his size or age, but, I love the dog he has in him and look forward to seeing him next to AD.

    QB – Bennett – B+

    I was certainly higher on other QB’s that were still on the board, however, after hearing that the Rams had Bennett as their top QB option and realizing he is actually a perfect backup to Stafford, I’m much more on board with this. The guys is a straight up winner. Is he our QB of the future, probably not but he could be our cheap capable back up QB for the next 7-8 years. I also love that he is very mobile.

    Edge – Hampton – C+

    Another undersized very athletic player. Unlikely to every be a real edge setter, but, with his crazy first step quickness, he is likely going to rotate in on passing downs and contribute. Didn’t know much about him when he was picked, but, Brugler had him rated above Young and a 3rd round prospect, so do love the value.

    OT – McClendon – C+

    A swing tackle prospect that could develop into a potential starter. Might have gotten a steal with this guy as he had an MCL issue and couldn’t test on proday or combine. Probably will be back up depth at tackle for his career, but, we needed some of that.

    TE – Davis Allen – B+

    Pretty big fan of this pick. He was easily the best TE prospect on the board when they took him and some had him as high as 3rd round projections. He’s an all around TE who can block fairly well. Hope that he can develop into our starter after this year, but, he has to leap over the ever dynamic Long. Great value pick.

    WR – Nucua – A

    Honestly love this pick. This guy is exciting and can block very well for a WR, something you know that the Rams covet. Has a injury riddled background so that is concerning, but, he is one of the younger guys we drafted, which is a bonus! This guy will be a fan favorite if he can crack into some playing time. Had he not had the injury history, I feel like he would have gone 2 rounds sooner, perhaps more.

    CB – Hodges-Tomlinson – A+

    Easily one of the best picks of the entire draft, all teams considered. Absurd athlete. Will work well in our scheme and I can’t see any way that he won’t be at least starting in the slot this season. The literal only reason we can get him in the 6th is his size. He’s bigger then Atwell, but still very small for a CB.

    Edge – Mathis – D

    Don’t get this pick really. Already added 2 edge rushers and this guy is a project at best. I liked every pick they made after Mathis considerably better, including the punter. This guy has PS written on him and, unless he has a ton of untapped potential, is unlikely to see playing time IMO.

    RB – Z.Evans – A

    Really love this pick. He was my 5th RB in the entire draft and we got him at the end of the 6th! I did hear that he has some character concerns, which is the only reason he is still there in nearly the 7th round. We moved up to grab him, so you know that the staff feels good about him. Evans could be our RB1 of the future if the concerns are alleviated. Thought this guy would be gone in the 3rd honestly.

    P – E.Evans – A

    From all accounts, he’s a great punter. Big dude that can make that tackle if needed. Has a great leg. We needed a punter and it looks like we got a good one.

    S- Jason Taylor II – B

    Probably drafted to be on ST, but there is some potential a safety. He got his hands on a LOT of balls in coverage. He dad is a great player, so I wouldn’t bet against him.

    DE – D.Johnson – A

    Another fantastic value pick. He, along with Turner are PFF darlings and ranked in the top 5 of all defensive lineman per their metrics. He’s undersized for being on the line, but that has worked for us in the past. Great DL depth pick

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    Couple tidbits from Jourdan:

    She says Fuller is healthy and the Rams are expecting a lot from him at safety this year.

    She has Hunter Long at #2 TE.

    Like a lot of people has the OL: Alaric, Avila, Shelton, Bruss, Havs.

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    Avila one of the best picks of any team in the draft. After the pick unprompted a number of current and former NFL lineman Rodrigue knows reached out to her unprompted to say what a good pick it was. They “love love love” this guy. The understanding of football, the awareness, the communication, the leadership qualities–all very high with this guy. He was the #1 guy on their board at the start of day 2–that is, the #1 player (not lineman or offensive guy, player). She sees him as their longterm center but for now he’s a plug and play guard.

    Raiders traded up before the Rams in round 2 because they believed Rams would take a tight end. But–Rams while the liked the tight ends that were going early in round 2, they absolutely had Avila ranked higher and sweated out him falling to them.

    Young pick is from Rams being sick to death of the quick passing game getting to the defense. Speed is no joke with this guy. Rotation guy early on as a rookie until he learns to be a complete NFL LB.

    Turner–they had to replace Greg Gaines, who they wanted to keep. They need an inside pass rusher next to Donald. They needed someone smart who knows the game to complement AD, and Turner is one of the smartest guys in the entire draft.

    Bennett? Don’t know what his 4 year future is…is he an NFL starter? But right now he is the #2. No other qb had the same consensus they did with SB. In terms round 4, they had intel indicating other teams wanted him. Didn’t want to risk. Stafford is healthier and better than he has been in years. Last year was so bad with OL injuries that even if Stafford didn’t get  hurt they should have just sat his ass down. They didn’t like their other qbs last year and they saw what it was like if Stafford misses games. So size is an issue with SB but he has a lot of traits they like–accuracy, timing, getting it out quick (he has a very quick release), throwing guys open, can handle play action, can escape and play outside the structure, has played on big stages. Huge personality. Teammates loved him. One of the biggest things was the way he competes. In terms of what the Rams liked about him he has that Baker Mayfield quality where he just has moxy and leads. A cheap option where even if everything implodes they still have a chance. They also want a rookie qb capable of leading the scout team in a way that actually helps the defense grow. They need a guy competitive enough at heart to challenge the #1 defense as a scout qb–so when they picked him, the defensive coaches cheered too.

    5th round. Hampton, McClendon, Allen, Nakua. Nakua is a dart throw because he has an injury history. He has great run after catch and football knowledge. Allen is developmental but has good traits as a blocker as a pass catcher. Hampton has good tape, he destroyed North Carolina, speed power guy, but a rotation. McClendon could surprise people early in his career. Player got lost on a loaded up roster. Has played all over the line. Huge upgrade in their swing lineman, and he might factor in behind Havenstein for the future.

    6th round. Hodges-Tomlinson had a fantasic season. Rams corners have issues with size and he doesn’t help with that. But, Hodges-Tomlinson needs to be underneath/inside jumping routes–he’s very smart, he’s very aggressive, and has great ball skills. He can identify tendencies. He reminds Rodrigue of what Darious Wms. used to do (like anticipate and pick screens). He’s the perfect player for that role.

    Zach Evans. He dropped far. Jason Taylor also dropped far. Very good value on both picks. Evans is probably the #2 back. Taylor very aggressive and will compete to get some rotation time early on. He they didn’t want him to fall to UDFA free agency. And Evans the punter, great leg and real passion for the game.

    She didn’t say anything about Mathis or Johnson. There were just too many picks to talk about.

     

     

     

     

     

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    Breaking down Rams’ draft picks and undrafted free-agent signings

    GARY KLEIN

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/story/2023-04-29/rams-2023-picks-why-they-were-drafted

    The Rams did not have a first-round NFL draft pick again this season, last one coming in 2016 with the No. 1 pick of Jared Goff, but they did select a whopping 14 players over the last two days.

    L.A. grabbed six offensive players, seven defenders and a punter. The Rams entered the draft without a kicker, punter or long snapper on the roster. They addressed both lines on Day 2 of the draft, in rounds two and three. On Day 3, they had a fourth-round pick, four fifth-round picks, three sixth-round picks and three seventh-round picks.

    Breaking down the picks and how they might contribute with the Rams next season.

    Steve Avila — offensive lineman

    6 feet 4, 331 pounds, Texas Christian, Round 2, Pick 36

    Notable: Avila, a Texas native, played guard, center and tackle during his college career. He started at left guard in 2022 for the Horned Frogs, who advanced to the College Football Playoff title game.

    Last season: Avila played in 15 games and did not give up a sack. He was voted to the All-Big 12 Conference team.

    Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams’ offensive line underperformed last season even before injuries began to mount. The Rams let guard David Edward leave as a free agent and unproven Tremayne Anchrum is returning from an ankle injury he suffered in the season opener. Logan Bruss, the Rams’ top pick last season, also is coming back from a knee injury suffered during the second preseason game.

    Byron Young — edge rusher
    6 feet 2, 250 pounds, Tennessee, Round 3, Pick 77

    Notable: According to Tennessee’s website, Young worked at a Dollar General store for about 18 months before making the team at Georgia Military College. He played two seasons at the junior college and transferred to Tennessee.

    Last season: Young had seven sacks and 12 tackles for losses for the Volunteers. He was voted All-SEC by the league’s coaches. Young had 12½ sacks in his two seasons in Knoxville.

    Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams are in desperate need of edge rushers. Last season, the Rams released outside linebacker Justin Hollins and Terrell Lewis. After the season, they released edge rusher Leonard Floyd. Converted defensive lineman Michael Hoecht and Daniel Hardy, a second-year pro who was injured last season, are on the roster.

    Kobie Turner — defensive lineman
    6 feet 2, 288 pounds, Wake Forest, Round 3, Pick 89

    Notable: Turner, a Virginia native, walked on at Richmond and amassed 14½ sacks in three seasons before transferring to Wake Forest for his final season.

    Last season: Young played in 13 games but did not start. He posted 10 tackles for losses, including two sacks. He also forced four fumbles for the Demon Deacons.

    Why the Rams drafted him: Aaron Donald is a three-time NFL defensive player of the year but the Rams need reinforcements on the interior line. After last season, the Rams let Greg Gaines and A’Shawn Robinson leave as free agents. Turner joins a defensive line group that includes Bobby Brown and Marquise Copeland.

    Stetson Bennett — quarterback
    5 feet 11, 192 pounds, Georgia, Round 4, Pick 128

    Notable: Bennett is the first quarterback selected by the Rams during the Sean McVay era — and only the fourth since Les Snead became general manager in 2012.

    Last season: Bennett, who began his career as a walk-on, led Georgia to the College Football Playoff championship. He passed for 27 touchdowns, with seven interceptions.

    Why the Rams drafted him: Rams starter Matthew Stafford is 35, and he is coming off a season in which he worked through right-elbow issues, suffered a concussion and was sidelined for the final seven games because of a spinal bruise. Bennett will presumably be able to learn from Stafford, who also played at Georgia, before ultimately succeeding him.

    Nick Hampton — edge
    6 feet 2, 236 pounds, Appalachian State, Round 5, Pick 161

    Notable: Hampton caught the attention of NFL scouts when he recorded 11 sacks as a junior in 2021.

    Last season: Despite missing three games because of injury, Hampton had 9½ tackles for losses, including seven sacks.

    Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams released Justin Hollins, Terrell Lewis and Leonard Floyd, leaving converted defensive lineman Michael Hoecht and second-year pro Daniel Hardy as the only remaining edge rushers on the roster. Hampton joins third-round pick Byron Young as young players who will try to fill the void.

    Warren McClendon Jr. — offensive tackle
    6 feet 4, 306 pounds, Georgia, Round 5, Pick 174

    Notable: McClendon was a three-year starter at right tackle for Georgia, which won back-to-back national titles.

    Last season: McClendon was voted All-Southeastern Conference after starting 14 games. McClendon helped protect quarterback Stetson Bennett, who was selected by the Rams in the fourth round.

    Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams are in need of offensive linemen to improve a unit that underperformed and was riddled with injuries last season. McClendon could back up veteran right tackle Rob Havenstein. McClendon was the second offensive lineman drafted by the Rams, joining second-round pick Steve Avila of Texas Christian.

    Davis Allen — tight end
    6 feet 6, 245 pounds, Georgia, Round 5, Pick 175

    Notable: Allen spent most of his first two seasons as an on-line blocker before breaking into the starting lineup as a pass-catching threat as a junior.

    Last season: Allen, who caught 28 passes as a junior, grabbed a career-best 39 passes for 443 yards and five touchdowns.

    Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams want to build tight end depth. Veteran Tyler Higbee is entering his eighth season — and possibly the final year of his contract. Brycen Hopkins is in the final year of his rookie deal, and the Rams acquired Hunter Long in the trade that sent star cornerback Jalen Ramsey to the Miami Dolphins.

    Puka Nacua — wide receiver
    6 feet 2, 201 pounds, Brigham Young, Round 5, Pick 177

    Notable: Nacua played his first two college seasons at Washington before returning to his home state and playing for the Cougars.

    Last season: Nacua caught 48 passes for 625 yards and six touchdowns. He also is a threat as a rusher.

    Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams are searching for receivers to complement star Cooper Kupp, who is returning from an ankle injury that required surgery. The Rams recently traded Allen Robinson. Van Jefferson is in the final year of his rookie contract, and Tutu Atwell and Ben Skowronek have shown improvement.

    Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson — cornerback
    5 feet 8, 178 pounds, Texas Christian, Round 6, Pick 182

    Notable: Hodges-Tomlinson is the nephew of Hall of Fame running back LaDainian Tomlinson.

    Last season: Hodges-Tomlinson was an All-American and won the Jim Thorpe Award as college football’s top defensive back. He intercepted three passes.

    Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams did not re-sign veteran Troy Hill, who played as a nickel back. So Hodges-Tomlinson could compete for that role in a cornerback group that includes Cobie Durant, Derion Kendrick and Robert Rochell. The cornerbacks are once again coached by Aubrey Pleasant, who returned to the staff after stints with the Detroit Lions and Green Bay Packers.

    Ochaun Mathis — edge
    6 feet 5, 250 pounds, Nebraska, Round 6, Pick 189

    Notable: Mathis, a Texas native, played three seasons at Texas Christian before transferring to Nebraska for his senior season.

    Last season: Mathis started 12 games and recorded five tackles for losses, including 3½ sacks.

    Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams and defensive coordinator Raheem Morris continued their search for players who can work with star tackle Aaron Donald and consistently pressure quarterbacks. Mathis joins fellow draftees Byron Young and Nick Hampton to help fill the void left by the release of Leonard Floyd and others.

    Zach Evans — running back
    5 feet 11, 202 pounds, Mississippi, Round 6, Pick 215

    Notable: Evans began his career at Texas Christian and played two seasons for the Horned Frogs before transferring to Ole Miss.

    Last season: Evans was sidelined at times because of a hip injury and a concussion, but he rushed for 936 yards and nine touchdowns.

    Why the Rams drafted him: Running back Cam Akers, who rushed for more than 100 yards in each of the final three games last season, will be a restricted free agent at the end of this season. Second-year pro Kyren Williams was injured most of last season. Evans gives new running backs coach Ron Gould some depth.

    Ethan Evans — punter
    6 feet 4, 238 pounds, Wingate, Round 7, Pick 223

    Notable: Evans is the first punter to be drafted by the Rams since 2005, when they selected Reggie Hodges of Ball State.

    Last season: Evans averaged 40.3 yards per punt for a Wingate team that won 11 games.

    Why the Rams drafted him: With no specialists on the roster, new coordinator Chase Blackburn needed players. Last season, Riley Dixon replaced longtime Rams punter Johnny Hekker but the Rams released Dixon and let kicker Matt Gay and long-snapper Matt Orzech leave as free agents.

    Jason Taylor II — safety
    6 feet, 204 pounds, Oklahoma State, Round 7, Pick 234

    Notable: Evans, an Oklahoma native, was a two-year starter who made plays in the secondary and on special teams.

    Last season: Taylor was named All-Big 12 Conference after making 99 tackles and intercepting six passes.

    Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams needed depth at safety. Nick Scott and Taylor Rapp, starters last season, signed with the Cincinnati Bengals and Buffalo Bills, respectively. Jordan Fuller is returning from injury and Russ Yeast and Quentin Lake will be second-year pros.

    Desjuan Johnson — defensive lineman
    6 feet 2, 285 pounds, Toledo, Round 7, Pick 259

    Notable: Johnson was selected with the 259th and final pick in the draft. The Rams acquired the pick when they traded pick No. 167 to the Texans for Nos. 174 and 259.

    Last season: Johnson had 16½ tackles for losses and 5½ sacks for Toledo, which had a 9-5 record.

    Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams did not waste an opportunity to add another potential contributor to a defensive line group that lost Greg Gaines and A’Shawn Robinson. Several late-round picks in the last few drafts demonstrated late last season that they could play as rotational players.

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    I’m still rounding up data but I have impressions.

    You know initially when they took Avila, I was disappointed–I thought, they have guards aplenty, why draft one. Ah but I quickly got over that. He may be one of the best guards they’ve ever had. Certainly at least in Saffold and Timmerman territory. A naturally huge, strong guy with left tackle caliber feet and movement, a team captain and leader, a head on his shoulders, has the right attitude, and plays with some anger. It’s really a great gift that a line needing interior guys with good feet find a big muscle guy who actually fits their style. This is the best Snead/McVay 2nd round pick of them all–they have actually been a little iffy with their 2nd round picks, but this pick has no doubts attached to it at all.

     

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    I really wanted a boundry CB, and they were there for the taking all over the place. They just never grabbed one. I also had Branch as my #1 player on the Rams stacked board. I am really confused by his slide. I’m assuming its the fact he didn’t show out at the combine and they are worried about his play strength and fit. If he is a CB, he is slow. I really thought the Rams put blinders on with the Avila pick. Take the BPA, you have holes literally everywhere. Don’t force a OL pick. That said. I love the fact that they got a stud OL. Finally, after years of me trying in mocks, they do it in a year I don’t mock them one.

    On to the picks:

    2.36 Steve Avila – IOL – TCU – 6′-3” 332 lbs. – A power blocking OG with an incredible anchor. Could he be an OC? Maybe. Lacks movement skills. OG power blocking scheme.

    My 71st overall prospect
    My 6th overall IOL.
    My #2 overall pure OG (Mauch and Skoronski are OTs probably moving to OG)

    Interesting pick with Torrence, Mauch, Schmitz and Tippmann available, as well as Branch, Cam Smith and a ton of edge rushers. I didn’t have Avila on my Rams Stacked Draft Board because I didn’t think he was a fit. I like him in Gap schemes or inside zone schemes. Rams must think otherwise, and I differ to them. If he doesn’t pan out, its due to scheme fit or some weird injury you can never predict. He is a powerhouse with a tremendous anchor, vice grip hands and good length. Seems intelligent, but at times is slow to see stunts and twists. He is unlike any IOL the Rams have had in years. The IOL just got bigger, stronger and nastier. I love it. I agree with Alyo that I don’t think he is an OC. TCU agreed, because they moved him from OC to OG when they brought in a transfer to man the pivot.

    3.77 Byron Young – EDGE – Tenn. – 6’-2” 250 lbs. – Fluid, fast with a hot motor. He’s a handful from the snap. Needs to get stronger. 24 years old. 34 OLB

    My 76th overall prospect
    My 13th rated Edge (some of those were 43 DEs and not fits at all)
    My 58th ranked player on my Rams Stacked board

    From Mock 2.0:
    Byron Young – EDGE – Tenn. – 6′-2″ 250 lbs. – This guy just competes. He is super bendy and athletic. A bit undersized, but consistently finds his way to the QB. Seems like a super coachable kid as he has elevated himself from JuCo football to Tenn. Thats not by accident. Senior Bowl standout, so that matters to the Rams. If the Rams go EDGE in round 2, they don’t go with Young in round 3. If they don’t, he is very much still in the conversation.

    I obviously love this pick. He just turned 25, so a tad older, but IDC. He plays early and often. I agree with Alyo, high floor, high ceiling. He was the last of my real top flight edge rushers.

    3.89 Kobie Turner – DL – Wake Forest – 6′-2″ 288 lbs.

    He as unranked across all my boards. He fit into the 7th round group but didn’t make my board. I really thought this was a weird pick. With a more athletic, more accomplished DL in Adetomiwa Adebawore on the board, he made more sense. There has to be a reason he slid. I’m assuming its positional fit. Turner is 3 double double animal style in and out burgers from 295, so he can work inside and out. Tough, powerful and a bigtime motor. He lacks the length to disengage at times. He had modest production, but I think he is an arrow up type of player. Word is he was climbing boards, but I work with what I have and when I saw him, he was pedestrian. I must have caught him on an off game. A reach? IMO yes. Was it a big reach? Probably not.

    4.128 Stetson Bennett – QB – Georgia – 5′-11” 192 lbs. – Ok arm, Undersized, mobile, not a dual threat. Just a gamer, can’t count him out.

    My 256th overall prospect
    My 14th ranked QB
    Unranked on my Rams Stacked Board

    Not a fan of this pick. He is undersized. He got a public intoxication and then “you know who I am” to the cops. He skipped the Senior Bowl when he had plenty to prove yet. He needs to get his head right or he won’t last long. Beyond that stuff. he has a good enough arm. He is accurate, very mechanically sound. Can manipulate the pocket. His size may be an issue, but Georgia has always had huge OLs, so I’m not so worried about that. His size and ability to withstand punishment worries me more (same goes for Haener and Young TBH) It’ll be interesting to see how he does when not surrounded by an allstar cast. The run on mid tier QBs started with Haener right in front of the Rams, then Stetson, DT-R, Tune, Clifford (yuck) and Hall. So I doubt the Rams were getting him in the 6th round, let alone the 7th. So even though he was a reach on my board, he wasn’t a reach in the draft IMO. I preferred Tune and his upside, but Bennett should work as a career backup with spot starter upside, and maybe as a starter for a year or 2 until the Rams get their next franchise QB.

    5.161 Nick Hampton – EDGE – App. State – 6′-2” 236 lbs. – Bendy, fluid and has an explosive first step. Run defense is not his forte due to size. 34 OLB.

    My 134th overall prospect
    My 23rd ranked EDGE
    My 106th ranked player on my Rams Stacked Board

    Love the value of this pick. He will start as a situational pass rusher until he gets bigger and stronger. He is an absolute tasmanian devil on the field. He’s an absolute playmaker. He’s long with a decent pass rush arsenal. And a red hot motor. Looks like a great STer early. Run defense lacks, thats why he is a situational pass rush specialist. But those types are in demand. This is where the Rams got back on track IMO (at least according to my board)

    5. 174 Warren McClendon – OT – Georgia – 6′-4” 306 lbs. – Good/ not great size, aggressive, good mover with good power. Not a technician. RT in any scheme.

    My 153rd overall prospect
    My 13th ranked OT (4th RT)
    My 121st ranked player on my Rams Stacked Board

    Again, great value. Did I hear they want him as an OC? That’s interesting. I wouldn’t discount him as a RT. And Havs eventual replacement. He was the alpha dog and a line that had 5 studs (their OC is went back to school, but is a highly ranked OC).He’ a hard worker, intelligent and a technician. Needs to add strength and maybe some good weight (depending on where they slot him on the line. I think he can play OC, RG or RT and his floor is super sub, active on gamedays not too far down the road.

    5.175 Davis Allen – TE – Clemson – 6′-6” 245 lbs. – Clemson played him everywhere or he’s versatile, smooth athlete with good hands. I’d can him an average blocker for the position.

    My 103rd overall prospect
    My 7th ranked TE
    My 82nd ranked player on my Rams Stacked Board

    Super value and personally the most under rated TE in a stacked TE draft. Rare TE with great size with amazing ball skills that can actually block well for the position. If the ball is coming his way, its his. He isn’t a dynamic TE, but he catches everything, is a great blocker and a really good redzone threat. He is completely different from every other TE the Rams have had in a while. He could be TE 2 early on. Esp in 12 personnel. His QB play was spotty at best, so Stafford could really elevate his game.

    5.177 Puka Nacua – WR – BYU – 6′-2” 201 lbs. – Physical, as a pass catcher and blocker. Also has linear speed. Not a good route runner. Possession WR.

    My 172nd overall prospect
    My 26th ranked WR
    My 137th ranked player on my Rams Stacked Board

    So let me get this straight. I ranked him 172, and he went 177…very cool. I think he is a steal IF he can stay healthy. He has been dinged constantly. Health is the key factor in whether or not he makes it. I personally knocked him a solid round due to injuries, otherwise he is a solid late 3rd to 4th round guy on my board. Not a HR hitter over the top, but extremely dangerous with the ball in his hands. Good ball skills, plays a physical rand of football and had 5 rushing TDs last year. He’s a real good jet sweep option and not afraid to block. I think fans will like his style of play.

    6. 182 Tre’vius Hodges-Tomlinson – CB – TCU – 5′-8” 177 lbs. – Super fluid, athletic CB with speed to burn. His size is his only limitation. Scheme diverse, prefer man.

    My 74th overall prospect
    My 13th ranked CB
    My 57th ranked player on my Rams Stacked Board

    Amazing value. The top CB in the country award winner this year. Size is his issue. Highly athletic, great ball production and aggressive as all get out. He allowed less than 35% completion rate last year which is elite. He looks like a slot/nickel back early on. Has to cut down on his penalties. Solid against the run. Should be a fan favorite. And no, he is not a clone of Burgess.

    6.189 Ochaun Mathis – EDGE – Nebraska – 6′-5″ 250 lbs.
    Unranked on all my boards

    They lost me with this pick. With already 2 edge rushers on board, why not target another position? He has a 7th to UDFA grade from me. Reasoning is his production kept slipping every year, even after transferring. So I think this is a case of the Rams buying low and hoping they can return him to 2020 form. He is a situational pass rusher for now (so redundant with hampton). He has great size and length for the position. He needs to get stronger to defend the run and to help with his long armed rush attack. Bendier than he looks.

    6.215 Zach Evans – RB – Ole Miss – 5′-11” 202 lbs. – Quick and can go the distance. Good vision. Not a power back. OZS

    My 147th overall prospect
    My 12th ranked RB
    My 117th ranked player on my Rams Stacked Board

    I’m back on board with this pick. I had him as a 4th round back. So getting him in the 6th is a steal. He is more well rounded than some of the other backs taen before him. Low wear and tear. Got stuck behind a freshman this year that might have been the 2nd best RB in college already. Plenty of speed. OK size and power. Not super dynamic but uses his vision and balance to avoid tacklers in the open field. Contact balance is good and can gain yards after contact. Fumbles are my main concern.

    7. 223 Ethan Evans – P – Wingate – 6′-4″ 235 lbs.

    Not ranked on any boards

    He’s a gigantic punter. Thats all I have. Sorry guys.

    7. 234 Jason Taylor II – SAF – Okla St. – 6′-0″ 204 lbs.

    Not ranked on any boards

    I liked him alot as an UDFA, so this is not a reach to me. He’s an absolute thumper that has some missed tackles (I’m assuming due to over aggression) Super athletic. Needs work in coverage, but in a Rams style system, he should be fine. ST demon is his floor. Def. adds toughness to the DB room.

    7. Desjaun Johnson – DE – Toledo – 6′-2″ 285 lbs.

    unranked on all boards

    He was an UDFA so literally 1 pick away from that. The Rams obviously have a type, and he is it. 6′-2″ 280 something pounds. He is tough as nails, but lacks length. Trouble disengaging OL. Nice project. And really nothing to lose at the end of the draft. The little I saw him, I came away uninspired I guess is a good word.

    UDFAs

    I’ll touch on the ones I know or have some info on.

    Tiyon Evans – RB – Louisville – 5′-10” 225 lbs. – He’s a thumper with excellent contact balance. Lacks a top gear. Pretty quick into the hole. Not a pass catcher. Any scheme.

    My 193rd overall prospect
    My 17th ranked RB

    This is a really nice get. The RB room now has a RB at 200 lbs, 205 lbs, 215 lbs and 225 lbs. I think he can stick as a 4th RB if they carry 4, which they should.

    Rashad Torrence II – SAF – Florida – 6′-0” 193 lbs. – Big time effort guy willing to throw his face in the fan against the run. Good instincts and in the passing game. Size/speed limitations. Scheme diverse.

    My 237th ranked overall prospect
    My 19th ranked SAF
    My 187th ranked prospect on my Rams Stacked Board

    Another really good get. Does he stick? Who knows but I like his skill set and size. I’m usually tough on Florida players, but there is something about him I really like.

    Alex Ward – LS – UCF – 6′-4” 240 lbs. – He long snaps…footballs.

    My 259th (and last) overall prospect

    Ok so a little credit here. You guys wanted punters, Long Snappers and Kickers, so I gave you one of each. I nailed the LS. He should stick, since they need a LS. Bonus credit for the best description of his skill set that you will find.

    Jaiden Woodbey – SAF/LB – Boston College – 6′-0″ 222 lbs. – A safety that works well in the box, is a bit of a tweener, but his lack of speed probably makes him a 3rd down cover backer. Plays a physical brand of football. Should be a good ST member.

    My 205th ranked prospect on my Rams Stacked Board

    I added him to the stacked board, because the Rams seem to grab a guy like this every year and the Rams showed interest. It’ll be interesting to see what they do with him.

    Tyler Hudson – at 6′-2″ and 193 he has great size, but tested really poorly and ran a 4.69. He is a very good route runner and has decent hands. Has the size to be a possession WR. He’s got an uphill battle to make the Rams roster.

    Sam James – a 5′-11″ 180 lb WR with return skills. Runs a 4.5. If he makes the team its due to STs. He was a big play threat for the Mountaineers.

    Xavier Smith – a 5′-9″ Return guy with a ton of speed. I think he was the MVP of the HBCU Bowl. Electric little jitterbug. He may be the return specialist.

    Braxton Burmeister – A QB turned WR. I find that interesting. 6′-0″ 193 lbs.

    Rams really hit the Hulu Bowl: Tyon Davis, Ethan Evans, Alex Ward and Tanner Brown all played in it. So did Tyler Hudson

    Matthew Jester – He is the type of guy that can make the PS and develop for a year.

    Tanner Ingle – An absolute Hammer from the SAF position. He can be frustrating to watch at times, but when he hits you…

    Kelechi Anyalebechi – ILB – Incarnate Word – Played the Bison in the semifinals of the FCS playoffs, had 2 tackles and wasn’t much of a factor. I doubt he makes the team.

    Anyhow, I was fairly pleased. I felt like they needed a NT and a boundry CB, and came up empty. I am not a fan of Bennett, but if he checks himself at the door, he has the skillset to be successful. My biggest concern is if you think he can be a dual threat type, you will be disappointed. Running will get him murdered.

    I also wasn’t a huge fan of Turner. But I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

    Otherwise, I thought it was a very good draft. They finally went hard after IOL. That is amazing. The Rams could be actually building that line. At least they have options.

    Speaking of options, it looks like competition everywhere but Outside CB.

    Thank you to everyone that stopped and commented or asked questions and made my 2023 draft experience worthwhile. I wouldn’t bother with a lot of this stuff if the board wasn’t full of great posters.

     

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    Just personal opinions on how this Draft played out and the path ahead…

    Overall, I give Snead, McVay and the scouting department credit. To me the initial judging of a Draft can really only come from estimating value picks vs. reaches. And overall I think the Rams mostly drafted value. It was more of a common sense, “safe” Draft than they’ve had in a while, seemed to have more logic (and maybe humility?) to it than in some past years. There could be no WTF picks with their top few selections and they needed most of their day 3 picks to be guys that were largely anticipated to go earlier. They did that. And I think they largely drafted very good athletes with high motors and good work ethics. That counts for a lot.

    As Jourdan has said, in recent years when the roster was more loaded they were more willing to be bold (and a little arrogant?), taking fliers on guys and even drafting some mid-round picks purely for special teams, etc. And they realized they couldn’t do that this year. I give Snead credit for seeming to get just how much the roster needed. All along I had wanted them to end up with fewer and higher (top 150-160) picks vs. quantity. And really, they were able to end up doing both. 7 in the top 175 and 14 selections overall.

    Of course, no matter what not all these guys will work out. But most have the ability and experience to at least provide depth. More will contribute as rookies than usual. And in the longer term it will benefit the team as they ‘bridge’ this year to 2024 when they have all their draft capital back and a decent amount of cap space.

    Thoughts on some specific picks and positions:

    – I didn’t look at Avila at all because I just never thought they’d take an OG like him at 36. I’m so pleasantly surprised. He is a day one starter at LG and, as others have written, might settle in there for 10 years. Exactly the type of attitude OL the team needs. Would fit really well in my opinion in between Jackson at LT and Shelton at C. He’s the type of pick that will have a positive cascade effect on the OL as a whole.

    – Young at 77 is the type of guy that can come in and play situationally from day one while he learns the larger game and can grow into more of an every-down role in 2024. No matter who they drafted on the edge- even if they’d taken one at 36 (which was what I expected), they are riding at least somewhat on the development of guys like Hoecht, Hardy and Keir Thomas. For them to get better QB pressure this year at least 2 of those 3 guys have to take notable steps forward. It’s a big question mark entering camp.

    – I know nothing about the Wake Forest DT, Turner, other than thinking he could maybe be used to spell Donald 10 snaps/game and help them based on pure motor and effort while he learns the position. Maybe their biggest reach pick? And maybe never more than a rotational DL. But you need those guys too. I really thought TE Tucker Kraft was going to be the pick there (who went the very next selection to Green Bay…). Or the CB Ringo.

    – Like others, I was really disappointed when they took Bennett at QB, both for the value itself and given who else was on the board. I thought he could have been taken later until those other 5 later round QBs also went off the board in the next 30+ picks. A lot of us wanted to take a QB around #180-190 overall but that just wasn’t going to happen. Once all those other QBs came off the board it became pretty clear that the idea of waiting on a QB until the 6th round just would not have been feasible. Maybe it was group-think and just one of those runs on a position, but the Rams were one of 6 teams to take QBs between 127 and 160 overall and all six were guys projected to go later. I remain skeptical Bennett can be the QB2 this year. But that seems like their plan. His average arm strength doesn’t matter at all to me. He’s played on the biggest stages against top-level competition. 32 starts which is a big plus for QBs. If his poise, decision making and accuracy are good then his arm strength is just fine. Hopefully he’s mature and a good teammate. Seems like that’s a bit murky?

    – If they reached on Turner I thought Hampton helped make up for it by being a pretty good value selection. So was the TE Davis who I think joins Hunter Long as their TE2 and TE3 and ends up with Hopkins cut (saving them $1M) in late August.

    – Taylor was probably my favorite day 3 value pick of theirs. He could have gone 50 picks earlier. The Rams seem to feel good about Fuller this year and with Yeast and Lake joining him it can allow Taylor to develop as a rookie and maybe take a bigger role in 2024.

    – Hodges-Tomlinson and Evans are intriguing. Each could carve out a year one role for themselves. Or not. Given the CB situation I think there is more than a few people crossing fingers that Tomlinson can. Being related to an all-time great NFL player like LT can only help as far as knowing how to prepare and work. But the Rams CB situation? I like Durant. He got a lot of work the final 6 games and held his own. He’ll be ready for a full-time starting role. But otherwise right now they are counting on two of the three between Rochell, Kendrick and Hodges-Tomlinson to be able to handle starting duties. I like Pleasant a lot as their DBs coach, but that’s asking a lot….

    – I know nothing about the punter other than thinking it was a good spot to take one and I’m sure they did diligence on a lot of them. If you’re going to draft a Division II guy punter is a good place to do it. He was also PFF’s top-rated punter.

    – I know nothing about Nacua either but it seems like his only real issue is health. If he can stay healthy, great, he could grow into a depth role. He’s athletic and competitive and competing for a WR6 spot this year. Maybe he can learn some things from Kupp. Mathis and Johnson weren’t inspiring picks but we’ll see.

    Looking ahead, I think my biggest 2023 concerns are at Edge rusher and CB. They really have to hope a surprise emerges at each spot very early on or the defense will have some growing pains. A healthy Fuller would really help the secondary. And I actually think the DL depth is pretty good. I’m also skeptical they have anyone capable of playing next to Jones at ILB on the roster.

    I like what they come into 2023 with at RB, WR and TE. And the Avila addition is again a real positive for an OL that needed both talent and attitude infused in a hurry. They need a strong running game and Avila can obviously help there from day one. Adding him also likely allows Noteboom some breathing room in his recovery. If someone wins the RG spot (not just by default) between Bruss and Anchrum I think things are looking steadier there overall.

    Looks like Bennett will likely take 80% of the snaps in preseason which, if he’s going to enter the season as QB2, is a must. Let’s hope he takes advantage of the opportunity.

    This Draft helped them- both for 2023 and beyond. I have no doubts there. Enough to make a playoff run this year? Tough to say but the NFC is not nearly as daunting as the AFC. Seattle did seem to solidify their status as NFC West favorites though.

    They’re thinner and more questionable at some spots than others. The kicker and punter spots are still very much TBD which isn’t great. But in the end if Stafford, Kupp and Donald are healthy and the OL overall is healthier they can make things happen while the very young team around them develops. And they will enter 2024 with more than adequate salary cap room/flexibility and all their Draft ammo.

    By the way, Arizona could very well end up with two of the top five picks in 2024 (and 3 of the top 37).

     

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    All GMs have to do these days to get draft acclaim is trade down and draft the top guy on the consensus board at their pick. Draft analysis is getting boring and trite. Everyone has the same talking points about what positions you can/can’t draft 1st round, trading up, etc.

    I get it. I agree with some of it since it’s coming from a place of understanding value and what brings the most to the table for teams. But the “picking guys who dropped on the consensus board” part has been driving me nuts the last few years. I know wisdom of the crowd theory.

    But: I don’t think it’s a complete view we get. The consensus boards are not team driven, they’re media/independent analysts. Some might get insight from teams, but not all. Without full medical + mental evals all these boards show is physical projection. Which is great, except:

    By now we kind of all know it’s not that big a piece of the puzzle if there’s a baseline of talent. Work ethic, motivation levels, development, coaching, scheme fit, teammates, mentorship, it all plays as big if not a bigger role than “what can he do on film in college.”

    Isn’t that literally the reason we all say the draft is a crapshoot? And that we laud trading back and getting more picks. So if the people with all the info aren’t better than flipping a coin, why do we take as gospel the collective boards of those without all the info?

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    Koll_0ne@Koll_0ne The Rams added one last UDFA, Sam James. James is a 6’ 185 WR from West Virginia.

     

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    Tom Courts@RamsBeat
    Here’s the Rams current roster of 82 players:

    QB – Matthew Stafford
    QB – Stetson Bennett
    QB – Dresser Winn
    RB – Cam Akers
    RB – Zach Evans
    RB – Kyren Williams
    RB – Ronny Rivers
    RB – Tiyon Evans
    WR – Cooper Kupp
    WR – Van Jefferson
    WR – Ben Skowronek
    WR – Tutu Atwell
    WR – Lance McCutcheon
    WR – Puka Nacua
    WR – Austin Trammel
    WR – Tyler Hudson
    WR – Xavier Smith
    WR – Sam James
    TE – Tyler Higbee
    TE – Brycen Hopkins
    TE – Hunter Long
    TE – Davis Allen
    TE – Christian Sims
    OL – Rob Havenstein
    OL – Alaric Jackson
    OL – Coleman Shelton
    OL – Steve Avila
    OL – Logan Bruss
    OL – Brian Allen
    OL – Joseph Noteboom
    OL – Tremayne Anchrum
    OL – AJ Arcuri
    OL – Zach Thomas
    OL – Warren McClendon Jr.
    OL – Sean Maginn
    OL – Mike McAllister
    DL – Aaron Donald
    DL – Kobie Turner
    DL – Marquise Copeland
    DL – Bobby Brown
    DL – Jonah Williams
    DL – Earnest Brown
    DL – TJ Carter
    DL – Desjuan Johnson
    ED – Michael Hoecht
    ED – Byron Young
    ED – Daniel Hardy
    ED – Keir Thomas
    ED – Nick Hampton
    ED – Ochaun Mathis
    ED – Zach VanValkenburg
    ED – Larrell Murchison
    ED – Matthew Jester
    ILB – Ernest Jones
    ILB – Jake Hummel
    ILB – Christian Rozeboom
    ILB – Kelechi Anyalebechi
    ILB – Ryan Smenda Jr.
    ILB – DeAndre Square
    CB – Decobie Durant
    CB – Derion Kendrick
    CB – Robert Rochell
    CB – Tre’Vius Tomlinson
    CB – Shawn Jolly
    CB – Timarcus Davis
    CB – Tyon Davis
    CB – Jordan Jones
    CB – Cameron McCutcheon
    S – Jordan Fuller
    S – Russ Yeast
    S – Quentin Lake
    S – Jason Taylor II
    S – Richard LeCounte
    S – Collin Duncan
    S – Tanner Ingle
    S – Quindell Johnson
    S – Rashad Torrence
    S – Jaiden Woodbey
    LS – Alex Ward
    K – Tanner Brown
    P – Ethan Evans
    K – Christopher Dunn

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