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  • #144831
    zn
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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Bennett is looking way more comfortable/confident the longer he’s in the game. Liked the shot downfield (PI aside), and clear problem-solving happening with OC to beat the rusher on the boot stuff (first time he got ripped down for a sack, solved it second time).
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    Impressed with how Stetson Bennett settled in tonight. Thought Tre Tomlinson looked solid and clearly getting heavily tested on the outside (similar in camp). Lots of questions about defensive line/OLB/, reserve OL, ST (which we knew we’d have coming in). Long way to go……
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    Rams Brothers@RamsBrothers
    Battle of Ronnie Rivers vs. Zach Evans is going to be interesting for RB3. Rivers is the better pass catcher and has been in the system longer, but Evans is clearly the more explosive runner.
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    Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
    Loved what I saw from Stetson Bennett tonight. Warren McClendon was rock solid at LT. Some ups and downs from the defense and STs, but that was to be expected. Tre Tomlinson with some good moments. Evans and Brown responded after early mistakes.
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    Love Bennett’s ability tonight to bounce back after negative plays. Almost throws two INTs, leads the offense on a TD drive. Takes a bad sack. Comes right back and finds Tyler Johnson on a slant for 34 yards.
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    zn
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    #144833
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    #144834
    zn
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    #144835
    zn
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    I liked Bennett and Zach Evans. There were others who made plays but those 2 stood out the most to me. The run defense is embarassing so far.

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    zn
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    Five takeaways from Rams’ 34-17 Preseason Week 1 loss to Chargers: Stetson Bennett settles in, Puka Nacua and Tre Tomlinson’s first halves, and more

    Stu Jackson

    https://www.therams.com/news/five-takeaways-preseason-week-1-loss-chargers-stetson-bennett-puka-nacua

    INGLEWOOD, Calif. – Although the Rams fell to the Chargers 34-17 on Saturday at SoFi Stadium, the performance of quarterback ?Stetson Bennett? and others provided several noteworthy observations.

    Here are five takeaways from the contest:

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    1) Rypien starts, Bennett finishes at quarterback

    Brett Rypien got the start at quarterback for the Rams and played the first three series before being replaced by rookie Stetson Bennett.

    Rypien finished 3 of 6 for 11 yards across those three series, also rushing once for 6 yards. Bennett had a couple near-interceptions on his first series, but settled in to finish 3 for 7 for 37 yards and one touchdown, connecting with wide receiver Puka Nacua for the 11-yard score that gave the Rams their first points of the night.

    Bennett completed 17 of 29 pass attempts for 191 yards and one touchdown overall, finishing out the game at quarterback after taking over on the Rams’ fourth offensive series.

    2) Extensive time for Rochell, Tomlinson at cornerback

    Starting at each of the outside cornerback spots, Robert Rochell and Tre Tomlinson both saw extensive action in the first half. Rochell played three defensive series before being replaced by defensive back Cameron McCutcheon, while Tomlinson played all four defensive series in the first half.

    Tomlinson had a strong third-down pass breakup against former college teammate and current Chargers wide receiver Quentin Johnston, and was also in coverage on an incomplete deep ball for Johnston.

    3) Bruss sees lots of time at right tackle, Anchrum at right guard

    Moved to right tackle in the spring and remaining there throughout training camp, the 2022 third-round draft pick out of Wisconsin played at that position through the third quarter before being replaced by offensive lineman Warren McClendon Jr. later in the fourth quarter.

    Tremayne Anchrum Jr. played right guard until being subbed out late in the third quarter.

    4) Learning experience for rookie specialists

    For two of the Rams’ rookie specialists, it was a night of learning – understandable, of course, given it was their first NFL game action.

    Punter Ethan Evans averaged 53.2 yards per punt with a long of 62, with two of his six punts landing inside the Chargers’ 20 (both fair caught) and another landing in the endzone for a touchback. Two of Evans’ punts were returned – the first 81 yards for a touchdown and the second just one yard. The fifth was returned for zero yards.

    Kicker Tanner Brown converted on his first extra point attempt, but missed his first field goal attempt – a 46-yarder – wide left. However, he bounced back to make his second – a 39-yard attempt early in the fourth quarter.

    Three of Brown’s five kickoffs went for touchbacks; one was returned 17 yards and another for zero yards.

    5) Nacua shines in first half, Johnson and Trammel in second

    Nacua had a promising first half, recording three receptions for 32 yards in addition to the aforementioned touchdown. Those numbers led all Rams receivers at halftime.

    Johnson had a big second half with five catches for 70 yards, including a 34-yard catch-and-run over the middle. He also drew a defensive pass interference penalty early in the fourth quarter

    Austin Trammel chipped in four catches for 36 yards on the Rams’ second scoring drive of the game.

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    zn
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    Stetson Bennett Best Plays vs. Los Angeles Chargers

    #144838
    canadaram
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    Seems to me that the Rams defense might end up being an issue. I have no idea who will step up on the edge and opposing offenses might be able to run at will. I don’t know how much having Aaron Donald on the field will change those issues.

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    zn
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    Rodrigue: 5 things I think after the Rams’ first preseason game of 2023

    Jourdan Rodrigue

    https://theathletic.com/4771329/2023/08/13/rams-preseason-stetson-bennett-defensive-line/?source=emp_shared_article

    INGLEWOOD, Calif. — The No. 1 rule of the preseason, any preseason — even such a weird one as the Los Angeles Rams are having — is to not jump to any full conclusions.

    How about partial conclusions?

    The Rams’ 34-17 loss to the Los Angeles Chargers on Saturday night hinted at some positive trends, and some concerning trends, too.

    Five developing thoughts:

    1. The more backup quarterback Stetson Bennett plays, the better he can get.

    Bennett didn’t start the game, but after entering in the second quarter, he finished it.

    Similar to how he has been in training camp, Bennett’s play fluctuated, especially in his early minutes. He was nearly intercepted twice and held on to a throw where he had receiver Ben Skowronek in the flat. But after an ugly few minutes in the red zone late in the second quarter — including discombobulation in the huddle that would have led to a delay of game penalty if the Rams had not called a timeout, and Skowronek getting smacked in the head by Chargers safety JT Woods (and holding on the next play) — Bennett helped reset the group and hit rookie receiver Puka Nacua for an 11-yard touchdown.

    Through the third quarter, Bennett seemed much more poised and it was clear where he and offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur (who was calling the game), were problem-solving and seeing things better. A free pressure on a bootleg that led to Bennett getting ripped to the ground early on was corrected by the end of the game, where Bennett quickly found the underneath outlet player to beat a similar pressure. He made a couple of really impressive throws, including a 17-yard pass to veteran receiver Tyler Johnson on third-and-10 that eventually led to a Royce Freeman rushing touchdown a few plays later.

    “It’s the first NFL game that you’re playing in, you’re gonna come in and be a little nervous (and) try to make a play when sometimes plays aren’t there,” Bennett said. “But then, as we started to groove, we started calling plays and just started to settle in. Once you get hit first, honestly, it’s like everything else. …

    “I thought there were some bone-headed plays that I made, and I thought there were some good plays that I made.”

    Bennett went 17 of 29 for 191 yards, a touchdown and no turnovers.

    “Didn’t turn the ball over even though I tried to a few times,” he said, drily. “Gotta clean that up a little bit.”

    2. The Rams are small along their defensive line, and technically inexperienced. This can be fixed, but it’s hard to deal with both at the same time.

    The Chargers probably could have run the ball every play, if they didn’t care about getting their quarterbacks or receivers work in the passing game. It sounds harsh, but they were averaging over 5.9 yards per carry against the players who figure to make up the first-team defensive line (minus Aaron Donald, of course). They finished the game with 214 rushing yards and would have gotten close to 300 had a 71-yard touchdown run not been called back for a hold.

    Now, the Chargers also were playing their two starting guards, Zion Johnson and Jamaree Salyer, to open the game. But that’s less of an excuse against a group of interior defensive linemen who the Rams will need to start for them. Without Donald, the opening front featured (with some rotation) Marquise Copeland, Earnest Brown IV and Bobby Brown III.

    The yards-per-carry (which ballooned to 6.9 by the end of the game) looked bad. But one play in particular could be a little ominous foreshadowing for what is to come, if the Rams don’t find a solution: Early in the game, Chargers running back Josh Kelley stayed upright and moving his legs against a pile of Rams defenders … and as his teammates joined Kelley, that pile got moved for a first down. It’s one thing to have a lot of technical work to clean up, and another thing to get bullied.

    “It just takes one guy to be able to get out of a gap,” Rams head coach Sean McVay said after the game. “So, especially some of the stuff early on, it felt like they were getting some good surges. I felt like we could use our hands overall better. We talk about trying to be able to gap-and-a-half, play with some violence up front. Didn’t feel like we played the way we were capable of.”

    Byron Young started opposite Michael Hoecht at outside linebacker, which is how the last week-and-a-half or so of training camp has looked. This could mean that Young has leapfrogged second-year outside linebacker Daniel Hardy on the depth chart.

    While the interior defensive line looked problematic against the run at the beginning of the game, the outside edges had trouble sealing against the run late in the game.

    “Some of the late ones that they hit, we just lost the integrity on the edge of our defense,” McVay said, “(that was) the main culprit there.”

    3. Rookie cornerback Tre Tomlinson and rookie receiver Puka Nacua will contribute sooner rather than later.

    In the early days of training camp, it seemed like Tomlinson couldn’t make a play without a referee flagging him for pass interference. Each time, defensive backs coach Aubrey Pleasant would sprint over to him and coach him through it — making it clear that the aggressive play style was a plus, but Tomlinson had to learn how officials would call the game at the NFL level.

    Saturday night, Tomlinson was certainly a bright spot on for the Rams’ defense. He got a significant workload at outside corner — an “OK, prove it” nod from the coaching staff because Tomlinson is 5-foot-9 — and played smart, physical coverage including credit for a pass breakup against former TCU teammate Quentin Johnston.

    He was, through the last few weeks of camp, encouraged to be “himself” while also learning the more technical sides of the NFL game.

    “I feel like it’s just my mentality,” Tomlinson said. “Aggressive, feisty, competitive. It’s just in me. … Most of it is just my mentality. I can’t change my style of play, because that’s what got me here. Just making the adjustments, understanding the calls and how things would be called in the NFL versus college, that was the biggest thing. But once I finally get it down … I feel like I can make a lot of plays.”

    Meanwhile, Nacua had three catches for 32 yards and a touchdown, carrying forward a workload that has stood out from previous Rams rookie receivers of the last couple of seasons.

    4. Some offensive line questions will take a little longer to answer than others.

    Alaric Jackson and Steve Avila, both of whom could be respective starters for the Rams at left tackle and left guard, played some of the first quarter. Interestingly, Joe Noteboom — who McVay said is now competing at right guard after spending the majority of training camp competing at left tackle — did not dress out.

    “Just coming off the Achilles,” said McVay, of why the Rams did not play Noteboom (who tore his Achilles last year but has been a full participant in training camp). “I think Joe has had an excellent camp. We’ll get an opportunity against the Raiders to get two competitive practices. We’ll get two more against the Broncos. And if we feel that Joe has gotten the amount of work that is necessary to start the season and be ready to go, he’s going to be an important part of this team.”

    McVay added that at some point, the Rams need to establish their best five players and stick with them. That could mean no longer rotating Noteboom, though McVay was sure to praise Noteboom’s experience at both tackle and guard.

    However, I also suspect it’s an indication of how the Rams are in fact leaning at right guard … especially after Tremayne Anchrum, who essentially stayed on the first team at the position through most of training camp, played nearly the entire preseason game at right guard. While the Rams are treating preseason a little differently this year, they still didn’t keep other likely starters in the game that late. If Noteboom ends up winning the starting right guard job, Anchrum has played right or left guard and even a little tackle, so he could be a swing-depth player.

    Logan Bruss, who switched back to right tackle full-time in training camp (the position he played in college), gave up two sacks and had a false start. He also played essentially the entire game, because he’s re-learning the position at an NFL level after the Rams moved him to guard his rookie season (and he blew out his knee in the first preseason game in 2022) and he needs to make up for lost reps.

    I talked with Bruss after the game about his first night back. He was pretty honest in his self-evaluation, which I’ll share below (lightly edited for clarity):

    Can you take me through the ups, downs, and what you’re going to take from this?

    “The biggest thing I wanted to get out of this game was getting confidence, feeling good again. There’s confidence in playing fast, full-speed, and just to come out of this game feeling healthy — last time I was on an NFL field, things didn’t turn out so well. Just getting that mental confidence and getting past that mental block of, ‘I’m not hurt anymore, I’m healthy (and) feeling good,’ that was the biggest thing for me. … Moving back out to tackle, I had not done that in a game in the NFL. Made some mistakes in the pass pro (protection). All things that are easily correctible. I learned some lessons, I know how I can be better.”

    On how he felt about his run blocking

    “I think most of my mistakes came in the pass. I think that’s just mental, how I’m approaching things. How I’m taking my set. Overall, I felt more calm out there (and) more powerful. Healthy. It’s good to get back out there again and play some football. Obviously a lot of things to clean up, so I’m looking forward to doing that.”

    On what he wants to show next week in joint practices and the preseason game

    “Progress and improvement. More consistency in the pass game. I think when I have a good rep, it feels really good. Sometimes, like today, I let a few get away from me. It’s a consistency thing, mentally. Taking the right approach every snap.”

    5. As expected, special teams could be a bumpy ride.

    With an all-rookie specialist operation, this was pretty much a given. Rookie kicker Tanner Brown missed a 46-yard field goal, but made a 39-yarder and hit both of his extra-point attempts. Is distance possibly an issue for Brown? Part of the journey with such a young kicker is getting a large enough sample size to decide whether it is, or isn’t.

    Meanwhile, the Rams tried punter Ethan Evans out on kickoffs late in the game (this was previously his specialty before he picked up punting). He had a touchback. Evans averaged 51.3 yards per punt with a 62-yard long and seemed to have control of his angles; unfortunately for him, one of them was returned for an 81-yard touchdown after breakdowns in the coverage. The Rams aren’t just playing rookies at the specialist spots…they also are playing a lot of inexperienced guys on their coverage units.

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    zn
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    #144841
    zn
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    #144842
    zn
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    Rams Brothers@RamsBrothers
    Tanner Ingle is a football player — sticking his nose in just about everything. Want him on the roster as depth. If he’s going to scratch and claw to earn snaps in sub-packages, so be it. Seemed to be doing a little of everything. Plays so much bigger than his size.
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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    One of my preseason sleepers! Really brought it every day of practice when he had the opportunities.
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    Stu Jackson@StuJRams
    Sean McVay on Stetson Bennett’s performance: “I thought there was a lot of good opportunities for him to be able to learn from, and you could see some of the things that excite us about him.”
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    Rams Brothers@RamsBrothers
    Ethan Evans is going to be good. He’s going to be very good. And rookie LS Alex Ward hasn’t snapped a ball over his head, so we’ll chalk that up as a win.
    #144843
    zn
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    oldnotdead

    Can’t tell much from the game for some of the positions.

    What was clear:

    Tomlinson is as good as I thought he is. He can play inside and outside.

    Bennett is QB2 and an upgrade. Probably plays the entire game next week. Then they can shut him down on the final game.

    Puka probably won’t play in preseason again. He’s got nothing to prove.

    McAllister is a keeper.

    Jackson is LT and Noteboom RG this year.

    Zach Thomas has made the transition to OG making him valuable as a swing for OT and OG.

    Wendell’s coaching impact is clear.

    Freeman bumps Rivers off the team. Royce becomes #3 or #4 RB.

    Ethan Evans is a stud and will be a Ram for a long time, maybe until he retires.

    With McAllister looking good does it make Allen expendable and they go with Shelton, with McAllister as their swing and Maginn on the PS?

    Less clear need to see more:

    McClendon’s feet are heavy but that would be less of an issue inside. I think he would struggle against starting edges.

    Young is a work in progress and probably will move to the strongside.

    Perimeter run defense sucked they need a WIL and SAM to lock it down.

    Bruss was very inconsistent but it’s only the first game he’s played in a very long time.

    The secondary looked better, i.e. more aggressive. (Thank you Aubrey) But hard to say how good they will be with all the backups and vanilla coverages.

    Smith apparently is hoped to be the returner. I have no problem with it and expected it since the day he was signed. But he needs to clean things up.

    Hope it gets better or it’s a problem:

    ST sucked. Let’s see how coach Blackburn responds for the rest of preseason.

    Tanner Brown gets a pass in game one.

    Relying on your edge as the only perimeter run defender is a glaring problem is scheme design. No SAM or WIL? Mobile QBs will kill this scheme.

    Bobby Brown can’t play a 1T. They can’t play a mixed 1 & 2 gap front with this personnel. They need to return to a one gap DL. Because they play a 1T NT both ILB are over the A gaps and the perimeters are wide open. This is a scheme design failure as much as players failing to set a hard edge. But expecting the edge to be the primary edge defender slows them down when trying to penetrate. It limits them and gives the advantage to the OL. I’ve been saying it for months and it was on full display. Read/React 2 gap doesn’t work that has been proven for years and why the vast majority of defenses play a one gap DL.

    The Bottom Line:

    The Rams have time to turn it around. It was clear that the problem isn’t talent but a combination of experience, and scheme. Experience will resolve itself as the season plays out. Scheme fixes need to be done now so they can practice them. McAllister is a pure center and as he gains experience he makes Allen expendable because they also have Maginn who can play both OG and C.

    #144847
    InvaderRam
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    i was surprised by bennett. made me feel comfortable about the backup qb position.

     

    hope he gets a start next game.

     

    and i agree that the run defense looked like crap. they got gashed for some pretty big runs. and there was at least one that was called back for holding.

     

    i wonder what the reports on avila were like.

     

    also i liked nacua. even if robinson is the third receiver it just makes the depth at that position that much better.

    #144848
    Eternal Ramnation
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    I think the D struggles this season but the O is going to surprise some teams

    The D was visibly undersized and got pushed around most of the night the sacks started stacking up late .

    The RB and WR rooms give me hope once Stetson got in and settled down rookie Puka and Tyler Johnson were shredding the Bolts D . RB Evans looked good. Freeman was effective in the short yardage role. Zach Thomas  was impressive and gave Evans and Rivers some massive holes.

     

     

     

     

    #144849
    zn
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    Blaine Grisak @bgrisakTST
    PFF Grades are out! Tremayne Ancrhum was the Rams’ highest-graded offensive lineman in pass protection. Had 85.0 Pass-block grade and gave up 0 pressures in 42 snaps. Lowest graded in pass pro was Bruss. Credited with four pressures. Logan Bruss seems to be aware that he needs to improve in pass pro. However, he was the Rams’ highest graded offensive linemen in run-blocking. Had a 75.2 run-blocking grade.
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    Tanner Ingle was the Rams’ highest graded defender according to PFF. Had an overall defense grade of 80.2. Really impressive performance from the UDFA. Tre Tomlinson gave up just 1 reception on 5 targets.
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    Rams OL PFF Grades: Anchrum: 75.3 Thomas: 66.4 Miller: 65.1 Maginn: 63.3 Avila: 60 (79.1 PBLK) Jackson: 55.1 McAllister: 50.8 Bruss: 45.6 McClendon: 42.7
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    On defense, Earnest Brown and Keir Thomas led the Rams with two pressures each. Nick Hampton led Rams edge rushers with 11.1% win percentage. Thomas had 18.2% pressure percentage.
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    JAKE ELLENBOGEN@JKBOGEN
    Want to point out how much of a mack truck Warren McClendon looked earlier on that long Ronnie Rivers run. I’m excited to watch him develop
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    Gary Klein@LATimesklein
    During camp, Bennett had some big plays with Nacua and Robinson.
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    roberto clemente@rclemente2121
    bennett has an impressive release…
    #144854
    InvaderRam
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    I think the D struggles this season but the O is going to surprise some teams

     

    i agree about the defense.

     

    i also agree about offense although i somewhat hedge my bet depending on how the oline performs. i am starting to feel better about the oline compared to 2 weeks ago however. as long as the oline performs i have no reason to believe that the passing game and running game doesn’t perform well. not quite at 2021 levels. but good.

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    zn
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