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znModeratorRams fans: “Please get AD some help and trade for Chase Young or Montez Sweat!!”
Les Snead: pic.twitter.com/mzBhPkWPca
— Cesar (@CesarsBurner) October 28, 2023
znModerator100% Agreed!#RamsHouse pic.twitter.com/14RyOSunhW
— Allen Sales (@AllenSales) October 29, 2023
znModeratorbeat the cowboys! pic.twitter.com/vvezOF1SFW
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) October 28, 2023
znModeratorFrom Rodrigue, https://theathletic.com/4998815/2023/10/26/rams-trade-deadline-strategy/?source=emp_shared_article
Kicker economics
Yet again, the Rams are firing up the kicker carousel.
Previous kicker Brett Maher missed two field goals and an extra point in Sunday’s seven-point loss, and was cut Tuesday morning. The Rams signed second-year kicker Lucas Havrisik off the Browns practice squad Tuesday. Havrisik has familiarity with assistant special teams coordinator Jeremy Springer from their time at the University of Arizona, as well as with former veteran Rams kicker Matt Gay, who put in a good word. They’ll also continue to work out kickers and potentially sign someone to the practice squad, McVay said. The Rams also had two undrafted free-agent kickers competing for the spot pre-Maher, but neither panned out.
Maher missed field goal tries of 53 and 51 yards in the loss to the Steelers. McVay praised Maher for handling his release with class.
“There were some tough situations that I put him in, that doesn’t (get) lost on me,” McVay said. “It wasn’t like, easy spots that he was put in, with some of these 50-yarders.”
A study by Ben Baldwin, who builds, studies and shares NFL analytics models, found that McVay and the Rams have lost the fourth-highest amount of total win probability per game this season, by kicking or punting in “go” (what the model perceives as necessary conversion attempts on fourth down) scenarios. The results his model finds are not dependent on whether a field goal is made or missed, but on the decision itself:
Pulled this from @benbbaldwin, found it interesting. People fairly raised eyebrows at the “still evaluating” quote in kicker situation – needs to make his kicks, yeah. But to me that also means evaluating situations in which kicker is being asked to kick. (Make/miss not factored) pic.twitter.com/P7bZxdtAKC
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) October 24, 2023
Sunday, the Rams faced three “medium go” scenarios, which resulted in a missed field goal (first quarter) and two punts (fourth quarter).
The Rams actually have an excellent overall fourth-down conversion rate of 75 percent. This ranks No. 2 in the NFL. However, they have only gone for it on fourth down eight times (18th in the league), and have faced fourth down with less than five yards to gain 25 times (fifth-most). The Rams have a decision EPA of -0.05 on fourth-down plays, which is third-worst in the NFL (this statistic also ignores the result of the play itself such as whether or not a field goal is made).
Further, according to TruMedia, no team has opted to kick field goals on a higher percentage of its fourth-down plays, with 3 yards or fewer to go and inside the opponent’s 45-yard line, than the Rams since McVay’s first season in 2017 (58.3 percent). The NFL average over that span is 42.7 percent.
Based on the above, the kicking position is actually quite important to the Rams from a coaching perspective (and McVay said as much in his Wednesday news conference).
Yet from a roster-building perspective (where, to be clear, McVay also has input), it is not: The Rams cited limited finances as the reason to not extend Gay, who now draws the second-highest annual paycheck among NFL kickers from the Indianapolis Colts ($5.625 million). This was also a factor in moving on from Greg Zuerlein in 2020, who now makes the 16th-most per year ($2.6 million; still more than the Rams have been looking to pay).
Evaluating kickers is a difficult science to master. Dallas Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy, who has been through a kicking carousel or two himself (including with Maher), loaned some insight when speaking with Los Angeles beat writers Wednesday morning about the process: “I think, in some ways, kicking and punting and quarterbacks throwing — I think those are clearly three positions from a skill development, the fine motor skill that is involved in throwing a football, kicking a football and punting a football — you really have to see them live. To me, that’s an extremely difficult evaluation to make on film. As we know, that’s not always the case from an availability standpoint.
“The technique, the fine motor skill for how they play and what they do is very high. I would say an in-person evaluation is very important in evaluating kickers, from their skill and their mechanics. Hearing and feeling the ball come off their foot, all of those things. Then there’s the other research that you have to use resources (on), and that’s the emotional dynamic of how these guys are put together. It is a position that is difficult to evaluate.”
To me, it’s simple math for the Rams: You don’t want to pay an elite kicker? Fine. Then make more aggressive (within reason) decisions on the fourth downs that would otherwise lead to 50-yards-plus kicks for non-elite kickers who aren’t costing you any money. Do you want to be a “kick-it guy” in “go” situations in those parts of the field? OK, then you probably have to pay an elite kicker.
“That’s an exact conversation that I’ve had with myself, and with other members of the staff as we move forward,” McVay said of the contrast between the caliber of kicker the Rams are willing to bring in, and his in-game decision-making.
You just can’t kick your cake, and eat it too.
znModeratorHere’s the play that cost Jaylen Warren, wearing No. 30 and pass blocking here, a $48,556 fine for lowering the helmet. https://t.co/vBgXIlyVIu pic.twitter.com/YjJJOrdvq1
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) October 28, 2023
znModeratorTeams with the most passes dropped this season…
Chiefs – 15
Rams – 13
Lions – 12
Cowboys – 11
Colts – 11
Vikings – 11
Jaguars – 11Fewest dropped…
Broncos – 4
Cardinals – 4
Buccaneers – 4
Chargers – 4
Dolphins – 4
49ers – 4— NFL Stats (@NFL_Stats) October 28, 2023
znModeratorElvis
Trade deadline is 1PM Tuesday October 31st.
Will the Rams make any moves?
Jourdan says the Rams have gotten some interest for Noteboom.
It sure doesn’t seem like the Rams are gonna be bringing anyone in, certainly no big moves.
Ditto on having a fire sale.
But they’ve surprised us before.
3 Days to go…
znModeratorGary Klein@LATimeskleinMcVay on watching tape to prepare for the challenge of facing Micah Parsons and Cowboys defense: “As excited as I was yesterday, man, maybe I should have stayed at the hospital.”
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueRaheem Morris noted being impressed with Cobie Durant’s opps on the outside and Quentin Lake’s opps on the inside, albeit limited. He reiterated that, situational plan aside, when guys are successful in opps like that team certainly takes a closer look at those combinations.
znModeratorHe still *that* Aaron Donald?
Dak Prescott: “Shit yeah he is. Yeah he is. I gotta play him this week, of course he is. He’s a talent. He’s still the focus…A player of a generation. Having played against him now for a while, he can ruin a game, so you’ve got to give him focus.” pic.twitter.com/Pnn3Dwarmi
— Saad Yousuf (@SaadYousuf126) October 26, 2023
znModeratorWhile the Rams and quarterback Matthew Stafford continue to manage his hip after Week 4 contusion, team says he has not been limited in any practices and Stafford says he is "good". https://t.co/XPc38qLuEW
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) October 27, 2023
znModeratorIs Kirk Cousins a Top 10 QB in the NFL?@GregCosell talks about what the film showed on Monday night: pic.twitter.com/0u8QxYRJ1t
— Ross Tucker Podcast (@RossTuckerPod) October 27, 2023
znModeratorPro Football Rumors@pfrumorsIt is looking like the #Panthers will keep Brian Burns past the deadline, with more extension talks likely. The team is believed to be open to revisiting negotiations in-seasonn
znModerator"When that ball comes out first read… He is as efficient and as productive of a quarterback as there is in the league."@gregolsen88 on Matthew Stafford & more in the latest @NFLonFOXPod ✍️🎙: https://t.co/HR1mcjoeEM pic.twitter.com/gmeVlwRTls
— FOX Sports: NFL (@NFLonFOX) October 27, 2023
October 27, 2023 at 4:35 pm in reply to: injuries going into Dallas game… + inactives list (10/29) #146473
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRamsSean McVay said RT Rob Havenstein (calf) will be questionable for Sunday’s game against the Cowboys.
znModeratorThey do the Rams at about 16:26 in.
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znModeratorLos Angeles Rams PR@TheLARamsPRAfter Week 7, LB Ernest Jones IV ranks 7th in tackles (67), is tied for fifth in tackles for loss (8) and 10th in tackles causing unsuccessful plays for the offense (24). According to @PFF, he has the 25th-best defense grade for all defensive players (84.5). #RamsHouse
znModeratorWhen they say Aaron Donald didn’t do nothing in game show them this 😤 @AaronDonald97 pic.twitter.com/CVCLnaz9Sg
— Ana (@adriana07m) October 27, 2023
znModeratorAnother Rookie of the Week win for Puka 🔥
OROY NEXT 🔜 pic.twitter.com/S78GAdlMwi
— Cesar (@CesarsBurner) October 26, 2023
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Your @pepsi Rookie of the Week winner for the 3rd time this season, @AsapPuka 🏆 pic.twitter.com/1SSZ4JmIsb
— HoldenCantor (@HoldenCantor) October 26, 2023
znModeratorThe Rams are losing significant win probability and EPA solely on fourth down decisions.
Sean McVay’s decisions in “go” situations assert an elite kicker is important. The front office (where he has input) cannot, will not, pay one.
Someone has to blink: https://t.co/TbJZ5NbqZb
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) October 26, 2023
znModeratorEvery NFL team’s stadium reimagined using AI… pic.twitter.com/FeYfccInnV
— NFL Memes (@NFL_Memes) October 24, 2023
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Unfortunately… the Mandarin destroyed this in Iron Man 3. https://t.co/asslwk7TyT pic.twitter.com/Yi2OmlxCCZ
— Caleb Crawdad (@washeddad17) October 25, 2023
October 26, 2023 at 10:08 am in reply to: Rams on the radar this year who weren’t before the season #146461
znModeratorByron Young is going to be a very special player for the Rams. He’s been a force thus far as a rookie. Rams had a hell of a draft this year. Kudos to Les Snead and the scouts for finding this gem. #RamsHouse pic.twitter.com/0OjXPlZGpe
— Allen Sales (@AllenSales) October 18, 2023
znModeratorThis is very long for Twitter, and I haven’t even finished reading it yet, but it’s quite interesting, and says a lot of stuff I haven’t encountered elsewhere.
İyad el-Baghdadi | إياد البغدادي@iyad_elbaghdadiHere’s a thread outlining the geopolitical situation around the Israel-Gaza war its possibilities, impossibilities, and possible outcomes.That’s a good resource.
October 26, 2023 at 8:32 am in reply to: mass shootings & guns … including Trump getting shot at #146458
znModerator[Situation in Lewiston, Maine as of this morning.]
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What do we know about the Maine shooting suspect Robert Card?
The authorities in Lewiston are investigating “two active shooter events” and have warned people to stay inside with doors locked.
Police have launched a manhunt as up to 20 people are feared dead after a shooting in the US state of Maine.
The authorities in Lewiston have released images of a man with a military-style assault rifle in a bowling alley and say they are looking for “armed and dangerous” Robert Card.
Here’s what we know.
Card, 40, worked as an army firearms instructor according to an internal police notice, and has 20 years of military service.
Image:Police have released images of the suspect. Pic: Androscoggin County Sheriff’s Office
Image:Pic: Lewiston Maine Police DepartmentThe notice said Card had been committed to a mental health facility for two weeks this summer.
It also said Card had reported hearing voices and had threatened to carry out a shooting at the military training base in Saco, Maine.
It did not provide specific details about his treatment or condition.
‘A nightmare scenario’
Card’s background makes the situation “a nightmare scenario for police trying to prevent more killings”, says Sky News US correspondent Martha Kelner.
“I’m sure attention will turn to how Robert Card was able to maintain ownership of such a powerful weapon. He looks very clearly to be holding a military-style assault rifle.”
Image:Pic: Lewiston Maine Police Department
What happened?
Police say the shootings happened at about 7pm on Wednesday at Schemengees Bar and Grille and Sparetime Recreation, a bowling alley – which are situated about four miles apart.
Police sources told our US partner network NBC News “between 15 and 20 people” were killed in the shooting.
Moments after mass shooting in Maine
As many as 50 people are also said to have been injured, not all of whom were shot. Some reportedly had injuries from a stampede.
The owner of the bowling alley said it was packed at the time with at least 100 people, including about 20 children.
One witness, who only identified himself by first name, Brandon, said the first shot came from “about 15 feet” behind him.
“Out of nowhere, he just came in and there was a loud pop”, he told Sky News.
“I was bowling so had my back turned to the door. And as soon as I turned I saw it was not a balloon – he was holding a weapon.
“I heard the first one – it was probably about 15 feet behind me. He was close. Very close.”
Brandon said he heard 10 shots ring out in total as he ran down the length of the bowling alley and climbed behind where the pins are kept for shelter.
‘My son was at the bar and we’ve heard nothing’
What’s happening now?
There’s a heavy police presence at the bowling alley and bar where the gunman opened fire as officers continue to scour Maine for Card and nearby roads have been cordoned off.
All town offices will be closed today in Lisbon, a nearby town of 9,700 people, where a vehicle that was being looked for has been found.
Residents in Lewiston have been ordered to stay indoors.
Kelner says there will be an “agonising wait” for people at a reunification centre in Lewiston who are waiting for news on their loved ones.
znModeratorWeek 7 update NFC Drops pic.twitter.com/uaZpHXG3b7
— RAMZILLA (@elitster) October 25, 2023
znModeratorIntercepting a toss is as glorious as I imagined https://t.co/HEbilqOXKf
— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) October 25, 2023
znModeratorFrom The Insiders on #NFLPlus: The #Rams have some kicker news… including working out long-time #Packers K Mason Crosby. pic.twitter.com/5aiiFvymyZ
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) October 25, 2023
znModerator.@Stevelavila joins @JB_Long to discuss the impressive start to his rookie season, how Aaron Donald has made him a better player + more. 🎙️
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) October 25, 2023
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueMentioned yesterday to expect kicker workouts – Rams signed Lucas Havrisik but that does not mean this process is over. They could also add to practice squad, etc.
znModeratorESPN Stats just released their WR Overall scores. Here's where the Rams came in:
Open Score | Catch Score | YAC Score | Overall
Puka Nacua: 60 | 61 | 52 | 62
Cooper Kupp: 59 | 49 | 57 | 59
TuTu Atwell: 27 | 59 | 39 | 35
Tyler Higbee: 34 | 41 | 33 | 28 pic.twitter.com/ssA2gaKkXu— Blaine Grisak 💭 (@bgrisakTST) October 25, 2023
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