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znModeratorSeattle Seahawks vs. New England Patriots | 2025 Super Bowl LX
znModeratorMatthew Stafford in 3 games vs. this Seahawks defense:
961 yards
8 TDs
0 turnovers
110.8 ratingImagine voting for Drake Maye or Justin Herbert for MVP over Matthew Stafford.
— Doug McKain (@DMAC_LA) February 9, 2026
znModeratorME: there were all posted in the superbowl game thread but I put them here too, so they’re in 2 places. Just people during the game saying in twitter that Stafford deserved the MVP, in spite of the complaints from some.
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Eric Weddle@weddlesbeard
Staff vs Seahawks looks a bit different than Maye. We know what were talking about when it comes to MVP and levels to QB play.HoldenCantor@HoldenCantor
Matthew Stafford threw for 8 touchdowns 0 interceptions and 961 yards against this Seahawks defense. Shoutout to the MVP voters that voted StaffordColin Cowherd@colincowherd
Just a reminder. Matt Stafford IN SEATTLE vs this defense two weeks ago. 22 x 35. 374 yards. Three touchdowns.Nate Atkins@NateAtkins_
Still amazing to think Matthew Stafford had 8 TDs and 0 turnovers on this Seahawks defense in his last two matchups, both in Seattle.He’s the MVP for reasons beyond that, but those games were the highlights.
Rams-Seahawks felt like the real Super Bowl at the time and feels that way tonight, too.
Football Scout 365@DraftAnalyst365
There are levels, and while Drake Maye is talented, he’s nowhere near the level of decision-making you see from Matthew Stafford. That doesn’t mean Maye is any less important to the Patriots, but more of his offensive output has to be manufactured through play calling.Stafford is essentially another OC on the field, making checks and changing protections.
That’s a big reason why the Rams marched up and down the field vs. the Seahawks.
Richard Sherman@RSherman_25
So when the MVP arguments are had. This tape should end that discussion. Stafford put on a master class against this same defense that Maye has 18 yards against currently with 7:34 left in the 3rd Q.He has had a great season and will have an MVP in his future but it was Stafford year.
znModeratorNate Atkins@NateAtkins_
Rams-Seahawks felt like the real Super Bowl at the time and feels that way tonight, too.znModeratorGeoff Schwartz@geoffschwartz
I’m not sure what New England can do differently on offense if they can’t block.
I think they hope to block up a pressure and hit an explosive. They need a few of those. Break a few tackles on a long run. A Darnold turnover would helpFootball Scout 365@DraftAnalyst365
There are levels, and while Drake Maye is talented, he’s nowhere near the level of decision-making you see from Matthew Stafford. That doesn’t mean Maye is any less important to the Patriots, but more of his offensive output has to be manufactured through play calling.Stafford is essentially another OC on the field, making checks and changing protections.
That’s a big reason why the Rams marched up and down the field vs. the Seahawks.
Colin Cowherd@colincowherd
Just a reminder. Matt Stafford IN SEATTLE vs this defense two weeks ago. 22 x 35. 374 yards. Three touchdowns.Richard Sherman@RSherman_25
So when the MVP arguments are had. This tape should end that discussion. Stafford put on a master class against this same defense that Maye has 18 yards against currently with 7:34 left in the 3rd Q.He has had a great season and will have an MVP in his future but it was Stafford year.
Nate Atkins@NateAtkins_
Still amazing to think Matthew Stafford had 8 TDs and 0 turnovers on this Seahawks defense in his last two matchups, both in Seattle.He’s the MVP for reasons beyond that, but those games were the highlights.
Bill Barnwell@billbarnwell
Darnold’s been great at turning would-be sacks into incompletions or gains with his legs, but he’s left some throws on the field.Isaac@imr__01
I really hope McVay and Snead are watching this game and realizing what a legitimate CB1 can do. The Rams defense can go from a bad unit to a great unit with one addition.Bucky Brooks@BuckyBrooks
Seahawks have Maye out of sorts with their combination of pressure and coverage. The constant harassment has quickened his clock, while the “vision and break” coverage has forced him to throw into tighter windows. Overall, the 2nd year looks overwhelmed by it all and his misfires have prevented the Patriots from taking advantage of some favorable opportunities.znModeratorSteve Wyche@wyche89
Seattle’s pressure is too much right now. The Pats’ said this week they have to locate Witherspoon and Emmanwori pre-snap. They might know where they are but they have no answers so far.Bucky Brooks@BuckyBrooks
Will Campbell’s playoff struggles continue to haunt the Patriots. The rookie OT is struggling with speed and power off the edges. With the 30 minute halftime break, Josh McDaniels will need to come up with a better plan to help Maye have more time to pass in the 2nd half.Eric Weddle@weddlesbeard
Staff vs Seahawks looks a bit different than Maye. We know what were talking about when it comes to MVP and levels to QB play.trey wingo@wingoz
JSN has 1 catch for 4 yards in the 1st half. This is what Vrabel learned so well from Belichick: don’t let the other teams best player beat you. Vrabel never coached under BIll but he’s by far the best Belichick discipleChase Daniel@ChaseDaniel
Patriots are calling a VERY conservative game offensively…..McDaniels knows they are outmatched in the trenches
znModeratorScott Kacsmar@ScottKacsmar
If you got a long developing play, burn it. Pick something else tonight. These defenses are in attack modeFishkiller@FV_Mylia_Lynn
Njigba has already dropped 2 passes Puka would’ve caught. Wrong guy got OPOYHoldenCantor@HoldenCantor
Matthew Stafford threw for 8 touchdowns 0 interceptions and 961 yards against this Seahawks defense. Shoutout to the MVP voters that voted StaffordKJ The Rams Fan@KJTheRamsFan
Yeah the Patriots line has been awful but Drake gotta be better than that, he let his left guard land in his lap while doing his best statue impressionRoss Tucker@RossTuckerNFL
Both defensive coordinators WAY ahead of their counterparts right now.znModeratorfrom quora
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znModeratorWyatt Miller@wymill07So if one’s winter, we’re not going to change it to summer, but you might change it from 42 degrees to 39 degrees
Ah, big reveal. With a high pick for the first time in years, the Rams are looking for colder players.
I think the Chicago game might have influenced that.
znModeratorWyatt Miller@wymill07
Really interesting insight from Les Snead on how having 2 first-round picks slightly altered the Rams’ scouting process without taking away from their work on later-round selections (which they’ve had a lot of success with in recent years):
znModeratorIn 99 I was unsure about the Rams because of the cupcake schedule. They ended up proving to be a legit-great team.
One of my favorite moments from 99 has been talked about before but there’s never too much of a good thing.
When the Vikings playoff game was coming, we all remember how the blue board got flooded by Vikings fans on a flame war mission. One repeated flame line was that the Rams hadn’t played anyone, and that Minnesota was the real team.
Then when the game came, and after the 3rd quarter explosion of 21 points (Horne, Faulk, Jeff Robinson) the broadcast showed a guy in the St. Louis crowd with a sign that read “we still haven’t played anyone.”
I don’t see this Patz team has having the advantages that Rams team had. They have a qb and 1 receiver in Diggs, and the rest is just efficient weapons. It’s not Warner, Bruce, Holt, and Faulk.
The Patz chance in this game turns on being a defense that can disrupt Darnold’s rhythm. If they can make Darnold sputter, they could win it.
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znModeratorYeah, inside the 5 yard line shouldn’t count.
Because all QBs throw for 18 of those every year. It’s like the starting point.
I actually encountered a Patz homer in twitter who was fighting in the MVP wars, who said that with all those short redzone TD passes, all Stafford did was dink and dunk. I did reply to others with that argument that Stafford also led the league in 20+ yard TDs. What I wanted to say and didn’t was that there are simply not a lot of qbs in NFL history who did not dink and dunk when throwing within 5 yards or less of the endzone. They could throw it long but if they did they would have to worry about hitting some fan in the stands with the ball.
znModeratorBoston Ball IQ@BostonBallIQ
honestly Maye got robbed….46 TDs? But no one points out how 18 came within the 5 yard line… 🤯
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You're as bad at this as Maye is at throwing inside the 5.
Stafford had 9 more TDs on 3 more pass plays inside the 5.
Maye is one of the least efficient passers that close despite 3rd most attempts.
You're dogging Stafford for being better at something. https://t.co/JxH9e1pjwK pic.twitter.com/Q1uzqlCKr0
— Scott Kacsmar (@ScottKacsmar) February 7, 2026
znModeratorThe Sonny J highlight — I have ‘never’ seen that. Damn.
Sonny Jurgensen, who played QB for the Eagles and Redskins over an 18-season NFL career that landed him in the @ProFootballHOF, has died. pic.twitter.com/XjAhRbziPj
— Ralph Vacchiano (@RalphVacchiano) February 6, 2026
znModeratorPro Football Rumors@pfrumors
After he was passed over for a promotion to head coach, Jim Schwartz has resigned as the #Browns’ defensive coordinator:znModeratorNicki Jhabvala@NickiJhabvala
Matthew Stafford confirmed he’ll be back in 2026:znModeratorSonny Jurgensen has one of my favorite highlights.
Rest in Peace to a legend. pic.twitter.com/uORtYaG3B1
— Coach Dan Casey (@CoachDanCasey) February 6, 2026
znModeratorDoug Clawson@doug_clawson
Drake Maye is the 7th All-Pro QB to face the No. 1 scoring defense in the Super Bowl.The previous 6 went 1-5 with only Joe Montana winning (5 TD in 1989 vs Denver)
znModeratorI cant remember the last time two Defense-minded head coaches faced off in the Super Bowl.
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vI went back 50 years. This is the 5th time in 50 years.
2014. Belichick v. Carroll
2004. John Fox (Panthers) v. Belichick
1979. Malavasi v. Noll
1975. Landry v. Noll
znModeratorHe’s saying they were a yound defense and learned a hard lesson. And if that’s true, it can be a good thing.
He’s taking responsibility. And doing it in a way that doesn’t just “give up,” he’s saying we can’t do that again, we learned a hard lesson.
But truth is, when they first met, the Rams secondary was performing. By the time of that game it was known to opponents as an exploitable weakness.
znModeratorPhiladelphia Eagles run game coordinator and offensive line coach Jeff Stoutland announced he is leaving the team Wednesday, Feb. 4. ( https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/philadelphia-eagles-offensive-line-coach-001103438.html )
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John McClain@McClain_on_NFL
Reports: Eagles’ Lane Johnson, Landon Dickerson both could retire this offseason…
znModeratorGreg Beacham@gregbeacham
Matthew Stafford wins the 5th MVP award for a Rams player. Only the Packers (10) & Colts (9) have more.Stafford joins Roman Gabriel (’69) & Marcus Allen (’85) as Los Angeles’ only NFL MVP winners.
At 38, Stafford is the oldest first-time MVP in NFL history & 3rd-oldest ever.
znModeratorStafford led the NFL in 2025 with 4,707 passing yards and 46 touchdowns. He and the Rams went 12-5, but fell in the NFC championship game to the Seattle Seahawks. How does his season compare with other Rams MVPs, let’s take a look:
QB Kurt Warner (1999 and 2001)
Warner won MVP twice in three seasons as the leader of “The Greatest Show on Turf.”
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His first MVP came during his second NFL season in 1999 when Warner finished with 4,353 passing yards and a league-leading 41 touchdowns. He also completed a season-best 65.1% of his passes and had the league’s best quarterback rating at 109.2.
What was most compelling about Warner was that it was his first full season as a starter after he attempted just 11 passes in 1998 following a three-year stint in the Indoor Football League. The Rams also won the Super Bowl that season.
Even though the Rams didn’t win the Super Bowl in 2001, Warner won his second MVP award that season. This time, he even led the league in completion rate, passing yards and passing touchdowns at 68.7% with 4,830 yards and 36 touchdowns.
RB Marshall Faulk (2000)
Faulk’s MVP award was wedged between Warner’s two during “The Greatest Show on Turf” era. Faulk, 27 at the time, won the award in 2000 after rushing for 1,359 yards and a league-leading 18 touchdowns. He also caught 81 passes for 830 yards and eight touchdowns, leading the NFL with 28 total touchdowns.
Faulk was among a select group of early-to-mid-2000s running backs to win the award. He, alongside Shaun Alexander, LaDainian Tomlinson and Adrian Peterson, are the only running backs to win MVP since 2000. There hasn’t been another since Peterson in 2012.
QB Roman Gabriel (1969)
Gabriel won the Rams’ first MVP in 1969, before the NFL-AFL merger in 1970. Gabriel completed 54.4% of his passes for 2,549 yards and 24 touchdowns that year. He also rushed 35 times for 156 and five touchdowns.
L.A. lost in the Divisional Round, 20-23, vs. the Minnesota Vikings that year.
znModeratorNFL Stats@NFL_Stats
The last players to win MVP:2025 – Matthew Stafford
2024 – Josh Allen
2023 – Lamar Jackson
2022 – Patrick Mahomes
2021 – Aaron Rodgers
2020 – Aaron Rodgers
2019 – Lamar Jackson
2018 – Patrick Mahomes
2017 – Tom Brady
2016 – Matt RyanznModerator"Matt Stafford understands the 'Why' on every play. Drake Maye is 23, he's still trying to figure out the 'What'."@colincowherd reacts to Stafford narrowly beating out Maye for MVP pic.twitter.com/B5WTEsQpcv
— Herd w/Colin Cowherd (@TheHerd) February 6, 2026
znModeratorLos Angeles is adding former Washington Commanders offensive coordinator and Arizona Cardinals head coach Kliff Kingsbury to its offensive coaching staff
Peter Schrager@PSchrags
Kingsbury and McVay have been speaking over the last two weeks and there’s mutual excitement to finally get to work together. When the Giants opted to hire Matt Nagy as OC, the path was cleared for Kingsbury to the Rams.Rams Bros.@RamsBrothers
Such a fun move. Kliff is a mastermind when it comes to drawing up pass concepts.Rams will lead the league in explosives next season as long as Stafford is on the field.
Jordan Schultz@Schultz_Report
At this point in his career, Kingsbury wants to continue growing as a coach and learn more about what it takes to be a head coach in the NFL again — including all the inner workings of the job that people don’t get to see.Sosa Kremenjas@QBsMVP
Matthew Stafford might throw for 55 passing TDs next year with McVay + Kingsbury + Scheelhaase ………. and after they take a WR with No. 13 overall.
znModeratorMatthew Stafford, welcome to Canton (basically)
He is the 15th QB all-time with an NFL MVP and Super Bowl title
10 of the other 14 are already in the HOF. 3 are locks. Only 1 out is Joe Theismann, whose career was cut short due to injury. pic.twitter.com/PqCbRCZBp5
— Doug Clawson (@doug_clawson) February 6, 2026
znModeratorOne of the players who remembers Stafford fondly is former quarterback Chase Daniel, who played with Stafford on the Detroit Lions during the 2020 season.
In a story for The Athletic, Daniel explained that Stafford thinks about the game on a deeper level than anyone he’s been around. Case in point: Stafford is a fiend in the film room, and that translates to his on-field performance. He can reverse-engineer plays, manipulate coverages before the snap, and then simplify massive amounts of information so he can play fast and instinctively on game day.
“I was blown away by his smarts and his instincts off the field,” Daniel said. “The way he studied, his recall and how his brain worked. It was the Covid year so we were just in the QB room, studying away.
“It’s really difficult for me to explain, but he would almost reverse engineer a play. I’d ask, ‘What are you thinking here? Post vs. quarters?’ And Matthew would be like: ‘No, no, let me do this. Let’s actually force them to be in quarters coverage. How about we add this motion and add a different personnel group to make them show us that look?’
znModeratorznModeratorWhen MVP Matthew Stafford publicly committed to returning for next season: https://t.co/kk65kxyOiL pic.twitter.com/J7NFEvmt3R
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 6, 2026
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