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znModeratorPesci1108
So, about Bradford being soft… and subsequent talk about his “leadership style” got me to thinking.
To me, Leaders come in all shapes… and sizes… and with different demeanors…
I think they just have a certain aura about them… others around them pick up on it and “feel” a certain sense that the person can guide them to success.
Kurt Warner was a pretty reserved guy IIRC. But he gave off that aura that had the rest of the team believing.
But, think about those championship teams the Rams had back then. It wasn’t all laid on Warner’s doorstep to lead. They had multiple leaders.. Faulk, Holt, Bruce… and others.
Now, think about today’s Rams.
Are there any true leaders on this team? Anything that approaches the names above? Not just on offense… defense too.
Then, I got to thinking… is it because they are such a young team? None of them feel comfotable enough yet to break out as the leader? Heck, most of them are still trying to learn the NFL game.
So… who are the leaders on this team?
I can only come up with a couple names…
On offense, Jake Long?
On defense, maybe Chris Long? Maybe Lauriniaitis?znModeratorRunning backs coach Ben Sirmans told the Post-Dispatch, “Sometimes you wish you would’ve figured out what you had a little earlier. Based off Zac’s success at Vanderbilt in the top conference in college football, we knew he had talent. But he was a little banged up in camp, and we had Daryl and Isaiah getting the bulk of the reps. They were the guys we’d seen, guys who had actually played in the NFL.
In response to the above:
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Torry Holt said that is exactly what Fisher told him as well
znModeratorI kind of feel like RB, QB, and to a less confident degree, the OL, will be considered real strengths.
Hey I just found out that if you use your cursor to blue out part of a previous text then hit quote, it quotes only the selected text.
But anyway on to less serious matters.
Yes, I agree that those 3 things are possible, myself. It’s a bold statement on your part. I assume though that you are still in good with the football gods?
July 17, 2014 at 4:01 pm in reply to: Nick Wagoner: three biggest issues facing the Rams heading into training camp #1907znModeratorYeah that’s a pretty good “reduce it to 3 issues” way to approach it.
Plus I like how Wagoner puts this:
The Rams have clearly abandoned the spread approach they were installing this time last year, but they will almost certainly be more balanced than they were after Bradford’s injury in 2013.
Fwiw the Pass/run ratio with Clemens was 26.8 P to 39.2 R
That’s 40.6% passing.
I’ve said before that I think they will be around 58% passing with Bradford.
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znModeratorPrometheus Faulk
The team lacked a true running threat in the first 4 of 7 games last year because Stacy was still working on some things and couldn’t get on the field (when I went to TC, it looked to me he had some issues with ball security, I’d suspect that may have been the culprit).
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So, why did it take as long as it did for him to get his opportunity? Running backs coach Ben Sirmans told the Post-Dispatch, “Sometimes you wish you would’ve figured out what you had a little earlier. Based off Zac’s success at Vanderbilt in the top conference in college football, we knew he had talent. But he was a little banged up in camp, and we had Daryl and Isaiah getting the bulk of the reps. They were the guys we’d seen, guys who had actually played in the NFL.
“It can be really difficult to get a true indication of what you have in a player until you see him in live situations.”
====================Makes sense. Lotta things happened. Richardson hurt the toe in game one. SF and Dallas defenses
played really well. Neither Pead or Bennie C really stepped up. I think Bennie was hurt too, maybe.
And then Stacy gets to start against the Worst (by far) team in the NFL at that time.I think Stacey is a topnotch back when he’s healthy. Very impressed with him.
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vPlus this is about the time Pead got doghoused, apparently or reportedly.
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znModeratorWagoner: Time for Chris Givens to produce
Again.
I have to admit I don’t have high hopes.
I would be content if he turned out to be a decent role player.
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znModeratorEdwinRams2
That Arthur Ash award to Michael Sam was pretty cool.
They did this long segment on Michael Sam’s life that was pretty cool. When they showed the Rams part that was really cool! Also when they showed the arch that was awesome. Fisher and Snead were sitting right behind him. You get this feeling that the Rams are gonna be awesome this year! Go Rams!
Huge Akmann
Very cool, indeed. Michael’s speech was heartfelt and inspirational, especially when he mentioned talking his friend’s gay sister out of committing suicide. I think Arthur Ashe would have been very proud that Sam received the award tonight. Mizzou and the Rams deserve to be proud too.
znModeratorHistorically, Bradford hasn’t done well against Seattle. The Rams are 2-4 against them with him playing qb. He has more INTs against them than TDs (4 T, 6 I). He has a completion percentage (avg) of around 55%, and a qb rating (avg) of around 64.3.
znModeratorYeah I am ahead of you. Look back at the post just before yours. I already said later on in the thread that though at first I thought he meant Bradford, the 2nd time around when I did the transcript, I realized he probably meant Austin.
I wonder if he means ‘mentally’ soft, like he can be intimidated — or does he mean, Bradford’s body
is easily taken-out.w
vI couldn’t quite figure out what he meant. He seems to say both things. One is that he kind of looks “soft,” meaning his demeanor or his look, or something. Another is that they can jam his receivers and blitz him and it throws his game off. Or maybe he meant both things.
znModerator<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>zn wrote:</div>
On the subject of Bradford, Robinson went another direction, calling the fifth-year quarterback returning from an ACL tear “kind of soft.”
He didn’t stop there either. Robinson said the Rams had plenty of weapons on offense, pointing out specifically last year’s first-round pick Tavon Austin, but they needed to “toughen up” their quarterback. Robinson insinuated that Bradford had developed that “soft” reputation around the NFL.
That’s misreported. Listen to the vid in the original post. He doesn’t quite say that and he says more than that (that’s positive). He ends by saying when the game slows down for him a bit, his career will take off.
The vid is a bit different from how the article represents it.
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I think he was talking about Tavon. When the game slows down for Tavon his career will take off.
He wasn’t talking about Bradford at that point.Ryan Van Bibber said something about this being ‘trash talk’ btw. I dont see Robinson’s view
as ‘trash talk’ at all. He really does simply think Bradford is a bit soft.w
vYeah I am ahead of you. Look back at the post just before yours. I already said later on in the thread that though at first I thought he meant Bradford, the 2nd time around when I did the transcript, I realized he probably meant Austin.
znModeratorI was wrong earlier when I say that Robinson’s words were misreported. When I first heart it I thought the “slow the game down in his brain” remark referred to Bradford, but now I think it refers to Austin.
znModeratorNFL guys going against St. Louis…what do you think of Sam Bradford?
I’ll give it to you straight…a little soft. I said it even when he was coming into the league, I don’t know, maybe it’s his look or his body … just a little soft… we know that we can send the dogs after him and he’ll throw us the ball… we understand that if we can move him off his spot and jam his receivers … the guy Austin is an awesome playmaker …he needs to slow the game down in his brain a little bit though
znModeratorOn the subject of Bradford, Robinson went another direction, calling the fifth-year quarterback returning from an ACL tear “kind of soft.”
He didn’t stop there either. Robinson said the Rams had plenty of weapons on offense, pointing out specifically last year’s first-round pick Tavon Austin, but they needed to “toughen up” their quarterback. Robinson insinuated that Bradford had developed that “soft” reputation around the NFL.
That’s misreported. Listen to the vid in the original post. He doesn’t quite say that and he says more than that (that’s positive). He ends by saying when the game slows down for him a bit, his career will take off.
The vid is a bit different from how the article represents it.
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znModeratorMichael Robinson calls Sam Bradford ‘soft’
By Ryan Van Bibber
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2014/7/16/5909299/michael-robinson-calls-sam-bradford-soft
The former Seahawks fullback had some nice things to say about the St. Louis Rams … just not their quarterback.
Former Seattle Seahawks fullback Michael Robinson was on ESPN’s First Take on Wednesday morning. Yes, it’s that awful show with Skip Bayless and Stephen A. Smith, so you probably didn’t watch it. A few people did, and they heard what Robinson had to say about the St. Louis Rams and their quarterback Sam Bradford.
Robinson picked the Rams as his surprise team in the NFC West. That’s a positive. The Rams are starting to get some respect from their peers around the league, and it’s been a long time since we’ve seen that.
On the subject of Bradford, Robinson went another direction, calling the fifth-year quarterback returning from an ACL tear “kind of soft.”
He didn’t stop there either. Robinson said the Rams had plenty of weapons on offense, pointing out specifically last year’s first-round pick Tavon Austin, but they needed to “toughen up” their quarterback. Robinson insinuated that Bradford had developed that “soft” reputation around the NFL.
We’re working to get video of Robinson’s comments now.
Take it for what it is, player trash talk. If nothing else, it’s a good way to fired up for a pair of game against the Seahawks this season.
znModeratorajhicks11
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:56 pm
On First Take earlier today they had former Seahawk Michael Robinson on the show. He said he thinks the Hawks can win the West again but said “You heard it here first. Watch out for the Rams!”
znModeratorAre the Rams flying under the radar? Clayton: I don’t think they’re getting the respect they should. If you read around how the players are rated, many writers seem to miss the fact that the Rams have drafted very well over the last couple of years. … Rams not being appreciated the way they should … they need a big play, a confidence builder, something to get them up and going… with a good young franchise one big confidence boost like that can make everything fall into place.
znModeratorThat’s what we’ve heard so far
znModeratorI think he was talking about Tre Mason
So you’re saying it’s my fault.
Well…maybe it is.
But then, which one of you was the one who MADE ME misread?
Hmm?
(Kidding. Sry ER I just brain glitched is all.)
July 16, 2014 at 11:53 am in reply to: position breakdown on average number of plays per injury #1809znModeratorI would actually like to see that done per snaps played. I am not sure what “plays” means in that chart…is it on the field snaps, or actually plays (run, catch, tackle, etc.)
znModeratorMason will apply stress as well.
Hi ER. Either you meant Austin, not Mason, or you are making a joke about ex-Titans receivers?
So the Rams have Cook, Britt, and a Still Undead Derrick Mason
znModeratorznModeratorER: if our OL fulfills it’s promise with Quick and Britt’s physical blocking on the outside these guys could well be unstoppable.
I do get the sense this offense could be very tough. I just don’t know yet how efficient it will be (meaning will they execute at a consistently good level).
znModeratorBradford completed 68 percent of his passes on first down in 2013, then 62.4 percent on second down and 49.3 percent on third down. In his four-year career Bradford has completed 51.9 percent of his passes on third down.
I really do not know how far this “dividing games” thing takes us.
But fwiw…in 2013, the Rams were different on 3rd down with Stacy. These are team numbers, gotten from looking at ESPN box scores, which include 3rd down performance.
4 games w/Richardson, 25.8% conversion rate on 3rd down
3 games w/Stacy, 38.4% rate38.4% for the season would rank 14th in the league. And 2 of those 3 games were against top 7 defenses.
25.8% would rank below 32. It would rank 33rd. (The actual lowest was the Jags with 31%).
Yeah just 3 games–but I will still hazard a guess: I don’t think it was an anomaly. 25.8% to 38.4%? From worse than the Jagz to better than the Eagles? That’s a pretty bloody big improvement. Yes and it would be good if it’s real and it holds up.
Though again those are not straight-up Bradford numbers. Without going through play by plays a game at a time, there’s no way to access straight-up Bradford numbers on this if you want to do it by the game. So you can’t compare one set of games to another set of games for the qb only, not unless you want to go through play by plays (as I said).
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znModeratorBradford 24th in Jaworski’s QB rankings
By Nate Latsch
http://stl.scout.com/2/1421268.html
ST. LOUIS — ESPN’s Ron Jaworski rated the Rams’ Sam Bradford as the 24th-best starting quarterback going into the 2014 season.
“Bradford remains a talented passer with excellent arm strength,” Jaworski said during ESPN’s SportsCenter segment. “He can make every throw with velocity, tough and accuracy.”“Bradford is primarily a pocket quarterback,” Jaworski continued. “When he’s well-protected and comfortable in the pocket, he can be a high-level passer. He has shown flashes of that in his four-year career.”
The No. 1 pick in the 2010 NFL Draft out of the University of Oklahoma, Bradford put up good numbers in his seven starts in 2013 before suffering a season-ending knee injury. He completed 60.7 percent of his passes, with 14 touchdowns and four interceptions, and a passer rating of 90.9.
“Bradford’s struggles have often resulted from his unrefined feel for pocket movement,” Jaworski said. “There are times he seems anchored in the pocket, unable to move and reset.
“Third down has also been a problem for Bradford. In 2013, in his seven starts before an ACL tear ended his season, he completed less than 50 percent of his passes. He must improve on that critical down to become a more consistent quarterback.”
Bradford completed 68 percent of his passes on first down in 2013, then 62.4 percent on second down and 49.3 percent on third down. In his four-year career Bradford has completed 51.9 percent of his passes on third down.
No. 23 on Jaws’ list was Ryan Tannehill of the Miami Dolphins.
znModeratorHerzog wrote:
Wonder why Pead only got one game, and Bailey gets four games.I haven’t looked into this very far, but, if a guy is suspended just one game like that, according to JT, it probably means he didn’t fail a drug test…that it’s something else.
Pead blames himself for trouble
• By Jim ThomasAnother thing that’s unusual about Pead’s suspension is that it’s for only one game.
That’s an indication that Pead wasn’t suspended for failing a league-mandated drug test, because those suspensions are always for four games by NFL policy.
One game obviously is better than four, and it may not seem like much.
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I got more on that from Balzer.
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do you recall why Pead was suspended for just 1 game, not 4, in 2013?HB Today at 3:31 PM:
It was never officially revealed as I recall, but my belief is that it likely resulted from an arrest, and there were probably some questions about the circumstances. He likely made a deal.—
Me again: so if you put JT and Howard together, whatever it was may have included an arrest (say, just guessing, for minor possession) and not a failed drug test, so the scale of suspensions worked differently than it did for Bailey this year or Dunbar last year.
Not sure exactly why it would work that way…but that’s what the 2 (combined) seem to be saying.
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znModeratorWonder why Pead only got one game, and Bailey gets four games.
I haven’t looked into this very far, but, if a guy is suspended just one game like that, according to JT, it probably means he didn’t fail a drug test…that it’s something else.
Pead blames himself for trouble
• By Jim ThomasAnother thing that’s unusual about Pead’s suspension is that it’s for only one game.
That’s an indication that Pead wasn’t suspended for failing a league-mandated drug test, because those suspensions are always for four games by NFL policy.
One game obviously is better than four, and it may not seem like much.
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znModeratorFumbling issues combined with a four-game suspension to open the 2013 season haven’t helped his cause.
I have issues with this. First, I don’t think he is a fumbler. Second, he was suspended for one game.
Isaiah Pead suspended for substance abuse violation
By Dan Hanzus
May 31, 2013Isaiah Pead’s rookie season with the St. Louis Rams never got off the ground. His second season won’t start on a promising note.
NFL.com’s Ian Rapoport reported Friday that Pead will be suspended without pay for the first game of the 2013 season for violating the NFL Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse.
The suspension takes Pead out of the equation for the Rams’ season opener against the Arizona Cardinals on Sept. 8. He will be eligible to return to the active roster a day later. Pead is eligible to participate in all offseason and preseason practices and games.
Pead, the 50th overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, is coming off a disappointing rookie season in which he struggled to pick up the playbook and eventually slipped behind seventh-round pick Daryl Richardson on the depth chart. He finished the season with just 10 carries. He spoke candidly about the lost season in a recent interview with his alma mater, the University of Cincinnati.
“Honestly, I would call it miserable,” Pead said. “Miserable life. Miserable four-five months.”
With Steven Jackson out of the picture, the Rams have an open competition for carries. In addition to Richardson, Pead is competing with rookie Zac Stacy and second-year pro Terrance Ganaway. Getting hit with a suspension does Pead no favors.
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