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    #161841
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    i really hope he stays. but maybe he feels good with where he’s at now. maybe if he wins mvp, he’ll feel he has nothing left to prove.

    i hope that isn’t the case. that he still feels the desire to win another superbowl. a chance to play for another one on his home field. the chance to play with puka and adams one more time.

    it’s hard for most athletes to walk away at their prime. but donald did it. doesn’t look like he even remotely regrets that decision.

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    #161938
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    Guess it wasn’t such a bad question that reporter asked.

    #161943
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    Guess it wasn’t such a bad question that reporter asked.

    What question?

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    #161961
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    i really hope he stays. but maybe he feels good with where he’s at now. maybe if he wins mvp, he’ll feel he has nothing left to prove.

    i hope that isn’t the case. that he still feels the desire to win another superbowl. a chance to play for another one on his home field. the chance to play with puka and adams one more time.

    it’s hard for most athletes to walk away at their prime. but donald did it. doesn’t look like he even remotely regrets that decision.

    Reading between the lines, I would say that Kelley will have a big voice in his decision. She has already noted that he has made enough money to take care of the family forever and ever, and they don’t want him to sacrifice his health.

    He has to weigh the value of health versus the value of his legacy goals and love of the game.

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    Reading between the lines, I would say that Kelley will have a big voice in his decision. She has already noted that he has made enough money to take care of the family forever and ever, and they don’t want him to sacrifice his health.

    He has to weigh the value of health versus the value of his legacy goals and love of the game.

    common sense would say retire. mvp or not.

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    common sense would say retire. mvp or not.

    Not necessarily. I mean if you’re going to go that route, common sense would have said never to play the game of football in the first place.

    It’s part of who he is. His rookie year he refused to leave the game with a dislocated shoulder and stayed in to throw a touchdown. Common sense would have told him not to do that either.

    He has a passion for the game that matches his talent. If that’s fading, then yes walk away. If not, then, there is no other consideration.

    #161964
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    Not necessarily. I mean if you’re going to go that route, common sense would have said never to play the game of football in the first place.

    It’s part of who he is. His rookie year he refused to leave the game with a dislocated shoulder and stayed in to throw a touchdown. Common sense would have told him not to do that either.

    He has a passion for the game that matches his talent. If that’s fading, then yes walk away. If not, then, there is no other consideration.

    true.

    #161982
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    It’s part of who he is.

    Yeah, that’s the deal.

    And he is *this close* to winning another Super Bowl.

    Only a wife and mother and 4 daughters can possibly change his mind. So who knows?

    We shall see.

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    Stu Jackson@StuJRams
    “I’ll see you guys next year.”
    Matthew Stafford ends his MVP acceptance speech announcing he will be back to play in 2026

    Nate Atkins@NateAtkins_
    Matthew Stafford is planning to come back for an 18th season.

    Talking about his daughters: “I can’t wait for you to cheer me on next year when we’re kicking ass.

    “I’ll see you guys next year. Hopefully I’m not at this event and we’re preparing for another game at SoFi.”

    #162002
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    i know i’m being greedy, but i want to see him back for three more years.

    #162009
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    Rob Maaddi@RobMaaddi
    Matthew Stafford: “Oh yeah, I’ll be back. It was such an amazing season and I play with such a great group of guys and great group of coaches that I was lucky enough to finish this season healthy, and I wanna make sure that I go out there and see what happens next year.”

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    Nicki Jhabvala@NickiJhabvala
    Matthew Stafford confirmed he’ll be back in 2026:

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    So do they NEED to draft a QB this year? I dont think so.

    We know Stafford is year to year now. But I would think two years tops, given all the risks.

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    I would not have Darnold or Hertz that high. Both good, but were carried by defenses, etc.

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    #162387
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    Matthew Stafford’s best throws from 457-yard, 3-TD game | Week 16

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    Rams ‘C’ grade for Matthew Stafford trade aged horribly
    Five years after the Los Angeles Rams “lost” trade for Matthew Stafford, the deal looks wildly different now.

    https://www.turfshowtimes.com/los-angeles-rams-analysis/140363/rams-matthew-stafford-trade-grades-lions?utm_campaign=dhtwitter&utm_content=%3Cmedia_url%3E&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

    Given that the Rams’ 2021 trade for Matthew Stafford was so immediately successful, it would be easy for fans to forget that many experts in the media were quick to deride Les Snead and Sean McVay for the deal when it happened. Five seasons later, Stafford has won a Super Bowl and an MVP award, stayed relatively healthy and available, and led the Rams to the playoffs four times.

    On the flip side of the deal, the Detroit Lions, who were generally considered to be the “winners” of the trade by acquiring two first round picks and Jared Goff, just missed the playoffs for the third time in the last five years.

    It would be fair to say that both franchises got what they wanted out of the deal, but at the time of the trade, it was the Rams who were criticized for overrating the difference between Stafford and Goff, while underrating the value of first round picks.

    Who wins now?

    The Athletic’s Sheil Kapadia gave the Rams a “C” for the trade back in 2021, but said the Lions deserved an “A”. He thought the ceiling for the Stafford-McVay pairing was high, but that the defense would have a hard time replicating their success from the past season:

    Having said that, the move comes with plenty of risk. Defensive performance doesn’t always carry over year to year. The Rams’ defense is built on the talents of Donald and Ramsey. Those two players combined to miss just one regular-season game in 2020. But in the NFC divisional round, we caught a glimpse of what the Rams look like when one of them (in this case, Donald) is less than 100 percent. It wasn’t pretty.

    Los Angeles also lost defensive coordinator Brandon Staley to the Chargers. And it could lose key free agents like safety John Johnson and edge rusher Leonard Floyd. The defense could be good in 2021, but there are no guarantees that it will be as good as it was in 2020.

    The Lions understandably got a near-perfect grade because they got two first round picks for a quarterback who didn’t want to be there aore.

    The point is Detroit has optionality. Having Goff’s contract on their books is not going to kill them. And they were able to pocket a pair of first-round picks. They did well in this trade by any objective measure.

    It’s not hard to see why the Lions got an ‘A’ back in 2021 or how they’ve been able to turn the trade into a franchise turnaround since then. Under the leadership of head coach Dan Campbell and general manager Brad Holmes — a disciple of Snead over about two decades in the Rams front office — the Lions have done a phenomenal job of drafting and using their first round picks. That includes RB Jahmyr Gibbs and WR Jameson Williams, the two players that Detroit was able to get after maneuvering with the first rounders they got for Stafford.

    To their credit, Detroit improved from 3 wins to 9 wins to 12 wins to 15 wins in the four seasons after trading Stafford to the Rams.

    However, the loss of key members of the coaching staff in 2025 — ironic, given the points Kapadia made about Staley in 2021 — hurt the Lions last season, and they dropped to 9-8, missing the playoffs for the first time since 2022.

    And Goff, who has managed to revive his career in Detroit and made the Pro Bowl in three of the last four years, has done exactly what the Lions wanted from him when the trade happened. He’s basically the same player that he was when the Rams went to the Super Bowl in 2018, which is both a positive and a negative:

    Goff is a game manager who can help a talented team reach the playoffs. But Stafford is a game changer, the type who can win MVP and put a team on his back during a playoff run. In Detroit’s best season, going 15-2 in 2024, Goff choked and threw three interceptions in an ugly divisional round playoff loss to the Commanders.

    The trade grade didn’t adequately reflect the probability that Jared Goff will never be good enough to lead a team to a Super Bowl championship, whereas Matthew Stafford never had the chance to play with a team as good as the Rams.

    Other trade grades

    Over at NFL.com, the Lions won the trade according to Marc Sessler, giving the Lions an A and the Rams a B+, calling them “reckless”.

    PFF’s Brad Spielberger also felt the Lions won the trade:

    It’s hard to look at this deal and think that the Detroit Lions have not come out ahead. The Rams’ supporting cast, excellent early in the McVay/Goff marriage, has atrophied some over the past few years, which has led to Goff’s decline. The defense, the league’s best in 2020, lost its coordinator this offseason when Brandon Staley moved across town to be with the Chargers. The situation that Stafford falls into, while better than the one he had in Detroit, might not yield the results that this trade implies it will. The betting markets appear to be betting into Los Angeles as a result of this move, but we would be inclined to take the other side if offered.

    It’s amazing to look back on how the trade was discussed, almost as if many analysts were rooting for the Rams to regress because it validated the idea that Detroit had ‘won’ the deal.

    Too much NFL analysis today is centered around salary cap spreadsheets and draft capital instead of the actual objective: winning championships. The Rams understood that an elite quarterback could raise their ceiling more than two future first-round picks ever could.

    The Sporting News also gave the Lions an A and the Rams a B-, arguing that Stafford was not much better than Goff:

    Stafford gives the Rams a higher floor and keeps them as a strong playoff contender, but in the big picture of trying to get back to the Super Bowl, has an overrated ceiling. The Rams, who don’t have a first-round pick again in 2021, gave up two more over the next two years.

    Stats have also played a huge part in misleading so many “experts” and fans into believing that one quarterback is as good as another quarterback because of their production. Goff’s stats in the past four years are legitimately insane, throwing 130 touchdowns and only 39 interceptions with a passer rating of 103.4, genuinely some of the best stats in history.

    And yet anybody who has watched him play knows that he’s not as talented as Stafford, doesn’t have the deep ball accuracy or talent, doesn’t have the arm angles or improvisational skills as Stafford, and would have never helped receivers like Cooper Kupp and Puka Nacua put up Hall of Fame-caliber seasons like Stafford. The comparison shows how stats alone can sometimes obscure the difference between a productive quarterback and a transformational one.

    It’s hard to argue against the Lions doing what was right for their team because Stafford asked to be traded and then Holmes was able to turn him into a foundation that would put Detroit on a Super Bowl path for the first time in franchise history.

    However, the angle that the Rams had to get an upgrade at quarterback or risk wasting McVay and Aaron Donald’s value to a team at the time was overlooked too many times. Five years later, the Rams are still a Super Bowl contender. That’s value that teams almost never get from two first round picks, including the Lions.

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    Rams ‘C’ grade for Matthew Stafford trade aged horribly
    Five years after the Los Angeles Rams “lost” trade for Matthew Stafford, the deal looks wildly different now.s…

    I didnt realize there had been people who gave the rams a low grade on that trade.
    Maybe i’ve just forgotten how it was viewed.

    But I do remember Kyle Shanahan wanted Stafford.

    Just seemed like an obvious upgrade to everyone on this board, anyway.

    Goff is a B+. Maybe even an A-. But Stafford is an A or an A+.

    I never saw Bob Waterfield or Norm Van Brocklin, but Stafford is the best Ram QB I’ve seen.

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    Top Tier: Stafford, Warner

    Second Tier: Gabriel, Everett, Bulger, Goff. (Trent Green)

    Third Tier: Jaworski, James Harris, Ferragamo, Chris Chandler.

    Fourth Tier: Pat Haden, Tony Banks, Dieter Brock.

    I dunno what to do with John Hadl. He was very good, but he only had one full year that i can remember with the Rams and he was a bit past his prime.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Los_Angeles_Rams_starting_quarterbacks
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    from https://theramswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/rams/2026/05/26/matthew-stafford-led-nfl-in-these-defensive-coverage-schemes-in-2025/90261240007/?taid=6a15c40b804c350001606370&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter

    …according to Pro Football Focus, Stafford led the league in PFF passing grade against Cover 3 and Cover 6 in 2025. Stafford had a 91.3 passing grade vs. Cover 3 (zone defense with three defensive backs) and a 91.6 grade against Cover 6 (two safeties plus four defenders underneath in zone).

    More than one-third of Stafford’s dropbacks came versus Cover 3 looks last season. Stafford became just the second quarterback over the past decade to surpass 2,000 passing yards against Cover 3 in a single season, joining Jared Goff, who accomplished the feat three separate times — including once under Sean McVay with the Rams.

    Having three defenders deep did little to slow Stafford’s aggressiveness. His 19 big-time throws against Cover 3 led the NFL, with no other quarterback exceeding 13.

    Stafford was especially effective attacking in-breaking routes. He completed 18 of 21 passes on “In” routes against Cover 3 for a league-leading 304 yards, with Puka Nacua accounting for most of that production.

    … Matthew Stafford claims the top spot against Cover 6. He averaged 10.9 yards per attempt and posted a 116.9 passer rating against the coverage, both marks ranking second in the NFL. Stafford also led the league in big-time throw rate versus Cover 6 (12.3%).

    #164077
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    I didnt realize there had been people who gave the rams a low grade on that trade.

    i was not in favor of the trade at the time.

    looking back i’m glad we have stafford. i still don’t know how good the trade was in terms of how much the rams had to give up. rams gave up a lot. and if not for some brilliant drafting, i’m not sure where the rams would be at right now.

    but yeah. watching stafford the past five years has been very cool.

    #164078
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    I just really want Matthew Stafford to end his career with 2 or 3 times as many Super Bowl rings as Aaron Rodgers.

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    Zach Brandon@MVP_Mindset
    Matthew Stafford shares how his QB coach, Dave Ragone, once studied his performance after turnovers and sacks.

    They found his stats on the next possession are exponentially better than league average.

    “I just equate that to being able to compartmentalize…Be honest and real about it and not ultra emotional.”

    In performance environments, your execution on the next play often depends on how long you stay attached to the last one.

    The key is not wasting energy arguing with reality and training yourself to respond and re-engage quickly.

    InefficientNFL@InefficientNFL
    There is a stat out there that is a bit dated now (Detroit days) but it showed QB Win Probability compared to expected by situation. Stafford was by far the best comeback QB. Rodgers for comparison struggled to comeback but was good with a lead. Peyton was strong across board.

    Tej Seth@tejfbanalytics
    The study in question,

    #164153
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    #164164
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    I like keeping track of comeback wins but the number isn’t necessarily all that indicative. 50 is good for Stafford. The better stat would be percentage of wins in comeback situations, but then that’s a hard stat to determine.

    Did you know that in 2016 the Lions went 9-7, and 8 of those wins were 4th quarter comebacks.

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    Zach Brandon@MVP_Mindset
    Matthew Stafford shares how his QB coach, Dave Ragone, once studied his performance after turnovers and sacks..

    The key is not wasting energy arguing with reality and training yourself to respond and re-engage quickly.

    Hmmmm. Well, i’ve spent my entire life arguing with reality.

    I see no reason to try and get along with reality.

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    #164171
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    You know, the Tom Brady math up there doesn’t math.

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