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  • in reply to: the Browns game, here…w/ Cleveland announcers #4772
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    Thanks ag. Way to come through. I made this its own thread. If you would rather I move it back to where it was, just say so and voila.

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    Rams head coach Jeff Fisher recaps third preseason contest with Farr, Savard

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    I filed a complaint on nfl network’s ‘contact us’ link. Called them a bunch of money grubbing clowns that couldn’t manage a pack of rats.

    I’m sure it’ll get filed in the ‘old Ram fan who hates the world’ folder. But, by golly it sure was fun to hit submit.

    Could you provide that link? Thanks.

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    sdram wrote:
    I planned last night and then this afternoon around it. What a bunch of clowns.

    You guys might have to just break down and buy the online p-s game package.

    It’s now just 14.99.

    https://preseason.nfl.com/nflpl/secure/packages?ttv=3

    If you have budget-conscious wives, offer to go without something. x

    This is causing a riot net-wide.

    Im Calling DirecTV Now!! Do The Same 800-531-5000
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    Rams on TV? Not seeing them on nfl network
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    So whats the deal NFL Network?
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    The NFL Network suks !!
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    That;s 4 separate threads all from page 1 of the same forum.

    Here;s a different board:

    Omg!!!!! NFL Net screws us again!!!!!
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    And another:

    NFL NETWORK F@#$!#$IN US
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    I planned last night and then this afternoon around it. What a bunch of clowns.

    You guys might have to just break down and buy the online p-s game package.

    It’s now just 14.99.

    https://preseason.nfl.com/nflpl/secure/packages?ttv=3

    If you have budget-conscious wives, offer to go without something. x

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    They changed it again. The Saints and Colts are on at 1pm on the NFL network.

    Stupid bastards.

    in reply to: the Rams offense & the longer passing game #4749
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    i kind of agree with that. i think they’ll pick their spots. they won’t be wide open, but they’ll certainly pick their spots to go downfield. i don’t know if that means they’ll be an aggressive downfield offense.

    on the nfl spectrum of offenses, they will tend to be on the conservative side whatever that means. they’ll be more seahawks than packers.

    I think it will be a mix. It’s an equation. A plus B. A = power running & ball control passing. B = downfield shots, designed big plays of all types, play action.

    A and B won’t be equal in numbers, but they will be equal in importance. They want to do both things, one goes hand in hand with the other, and the downfield shots won’t just be picking their spots…they will go into games intending to do this. They won’t take their shots they will set their shots up.

    I am also saying this is nothing new. It’s how they did things in 2012 also. But, in 2012 they didn’t have the receivers they do now.

    in reply to: Geez Bradford is a china doll. #4748
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    well i’m not sure what this means then. or is it that using the words “brittle” and “breaks easily” is inflammatory?

    Mack said this: I think the term, “china doll” is overtly provocative.

    I took that as meaning it’s not the issue, it’s how it’s put.

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    in reply to: Geez Bradford is a china doll. #4743
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    I just keep adding different views to this discussion.

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    For those who didn’t listen to Savard and Farr last night . Towards the end of the game they were speaking with someone and said that very common post acl to take a minimal hit or push off oddly and break up scar tissue. He described that feeling as extremely painful but after a day or so can be beneficial to the knee long term. He said that the slight hyper extension of Sam’s knee looked at first glance that it may be a scar tissue issue . Sorry I missed who thy were speaking to ( may have been sideline reporter Will Witherspoon)

    in reply to: Geez Bradford is a china doll. #4736
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    sorry, mack. i gotta go with grits on this. bradford is not proving to be a durable guy. maybe his ligaments are just not that durable. i’m beginning to think it’s just a matter of when not if his next big injury comes.

    hope i’m wrong.

    Mack’s point, though, is not the substance of what got said but the way it was said.

    Mack, the way I read him, was agreeing that some guys do get hurt more: Even if the future becomes Robot football, some robots will be more reliable than others.

    So he agreed about the durability issue. From reading Mack I gather it’s an open question about Bradford’s durability. On saying he’s injury prone? Or not durable? That could be true of Bradford or not, though certainly one way to take yesterday is that it’s starting to add up with him. Mack only had some qualms about HOW it was said.

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    Nick Wagoner @nwagoner

    Fisher on Bradford: “I can’t speculate but it appeared just to be a hyperextension of the same knee. He’s walking around fine.”

    Jim Thomas (@jthom1)

    FIsher on Bradford’s knee injury: “I’m very optimistic for his quick return.”

    in reply to: reports on the injuries #4712
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    tru’s injury looked bad.

    as far as sam. well. just gotta push forward. but i get this feeling that the guy is fragile.

    I don’t think he’s fragile. A hyperextended knee is bad, ever had one? You recover from it fine, but, it hurts like hell when it happens, and it doesn’t happen cause you’re fragile.

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    Nick Wagoner @nwagoner

    Fisher on Bradford: “I can’t speculate but it appeared just to be a hyperextension of the same knee. He’s walking around fine.”

    in reply to: Geez Bradford is a china doll. #4707
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    Jim Thomas ‏@jthom1
    Brian Quick on Bradford’s injury: “I was a little nervous about it but everything is all right. Sam told me that he is OK.”

    in reply to: Geez Bradford is a china doll. #4701
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    morris1

    According to NFL Channel Sam has had an initial MRI and it did not show anything – will have another tomorrow. But previous player on NFL Channel stated that Bradford may have simply torn scare tissue which often occurs after major surgery. Tearing scare tissue can be quite painful, but also temporary.

    in reply to: Geez Bradford is a china doll. #4693
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    Bummer is that’s the way it was in Carolina too.

    No I think this was different…he was clearly bad hurt in Carolina, I didn’t get that sense this time

    Anyway, this from off the net, fwiw



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    im an athletic therapist and if that were a total ligament rupture, especially an acl it would have had to happen from a force coming from the posterior of the knee to the anterior. But the force of impact came from the front to the back. It may be just a hyperextension but i wouldn’t rule out a possible mcl strain and or partial meniscus tear

    in reply to: Geez Bradford is a china doll. #4687
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    rambill from off the net: It wasn’t that the knee was hit….the guy hit him up high and it caused an awkward downward pressure on his leg…it may have been hyperextended slightly.

    in reply to: Mack's 2014 NFC Power Rankings #4682
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    I think you have the Vikes ranked too high.

    Anyway, interesting and bold list!

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    NFL Now: Rams vs. Browns Preview: Marc Istook and Elliot Harrison preview which players you should pay attention to in the preseason Week 3 game between the St. Louis Rams and the Cleveland Browns.

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/videos/videos/NFL-Now-Rams-vs-Browns-Preview/387afb0f-c255-4806-b4d2-6fc1d36d7b65

    in reply to: What do you need to see against the Browns? #4667
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    Just IMO a pretty good from-the-net take on this issue.

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    Last week all eyes were on Bradford. That will continue to be the case this week but he is 1b. All eyes will also turn to the oline. This will be the first time the starters are in and they will be tested. I imagine that the Browns in the dress rehearsal will come after him a few times (unlike the Packers last week). Secondly a team that supposedly wants to dictate with their run game has to start running the ball better. I very much want to see that tonight. Last week that wasn’t the Rams starting oline…this week its time to go. So everything turns up a notch.

    I am hopeful that Britt can play tonight, and want to see that lineup that features he and Quick on the outside, Tavon in the slot, and Cook at TE.

    It looks like JL will not play again this week but let him get healthy… heck part of me says do the same for Brockers. [The Browns]…signed Ben Tate from the Texans a RB many Ram fans were high on at one point. Don’t be surprised if he presses the Rams tonight

    Defensively I want to see more of what we have been seeing from these young DBs… TJ and and JJ are back so I want to see them play well. The Browns passing game is a work in progress. They are clearly behind learning a new offense. Keep it that way. Don’t want to see them coming to life against the Rams

    I personally hope Givens can show something on returns and that when he gets in there with the second team offense he can get a couple of clean balls so that he can show what he is capable of athletically.

    in reply to: Get ready for the Legion of Boom rule #4659
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    You know I don’t think Seattle has been called much for this. I think they adjusted. That’s just an impression. I didn’t do no detailed study using science foundation grant money or anything. I just sort of watched Chicago self-destruct against them yesterday, and in the middle of shaking my head at Chicago’s various flawed efforts to imitate football, I sort of vaguely noticed that the Seahawks didn’t get many calls like this. One or 2?

    in reply to: What do you need to see against the Browns? #4653
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    I just want to see Manziel
    cry like a baby.

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    Ferguson Feeds Off the Poor: Three Warrants a Year Per Household

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/22/ferguson-s-shameful-legal-shakedown-three-warrants-a-year-per-household.html

    In the chamber where Officer Darren Wilson received a commendation six months before killing Michael Brown, a minor court generates major money from the city’s poor and working people.

    The Ferguson Police have now released a video that shows police Officer Darren Wilson receiving a commendation six months before he became known to the whole nation as the cop who gunned down an unarmed 18-year-old.

    The irony is obvious to anyone who watches the footage of this proud young officer receiving the award at a ceremony in the City Council chamber as Ferguson’s six council members applaud.

    “Officer Wilson, in recognition of outstanding police work while investigating a suspicious-vehicle call,” Chief Thomas Jackson says in making the presentation. “Acting alone, you struggled with one subject and [were] able to gain control of the subject and his car keys until assistance arrived. Later, during the interview, it was discovered that the subject was breaking down a large quantity of marijuana for sale.”

    Jackson adds, “Great job, Darren.”

    But there is another, unnoticed irony in the venue itself. Three times a month—one day and two nights—the City Council chamber also serves as home to the incredibly busy and extremely profitable Ferguson municipal court.

    A report issued just last week by the nonprofit lawyer’s group ArchCity Defenders notes that in the court’s 36 three-hour sessions in 2013, it handled 12,108 cases and 24,532 warrants. That is an average of 1.5 cases and three warrants per Ferguson household. Fines and court fees for the year in this city of just 21,000 people totaled $2,635,400.

    The sum made the municipal court the city’s second-biggest source of revenue. It also almost certainly was a major factor in the antagonism between the police and the citizenry preceding the tragedy that resulted when Wilson had another encounter with a subject six months after he got his commendation.

    And any complete investigation into how Michael Brown came to be sprawled dead in the street with a half-dozen bullet wounds must consider not just the cop but the system he served, a system whose primary components include a minor court that generates major money, much of it from poor and working people.

    Five of the six City Council members who meet in this chamber are white, even though the city itself is more than 70 percent black. The City Council appoints the municipal judge, currently Ron Brockmeyer, who is also white.

    But when this same chamber serves as Ferguson Municipal Court, a disproportionate number of the defendants are black.

    The immediate explanation is that the bulk of the cases arise from car stops. The ArchCity Defenders report notes: “Whites comprise 29% of the population of Ferguson but just 12.7% of vehicle stops. After being stopped in Ferguson, blacks are almost twice as likely as whites to be searched (12.1% vs. 6.9%) and twice as likely to be arrested (10.4% vs. 5.2%).”

    Lest anyone contend that blacks inherently merit greater police attention than whites, the report offers another statistic.

    “Searches of black individuals result in discovery of contraband only 21.7% of the time, while similar searches of whites produce contraband 34.0% of the time.”

    That would suggest both that whites were more likely to be stopped when there was actual probable cause and that blacks were more likely to be stopped when there was not. And the antagonism sure to be generated by such racial disparities was magnified by the sheer number of cases.

    The report cites a court employee as saying the docket for a typical three-hour court session has up to 1,500 cases. The report goes on to say that “in addition to such heavy legal prosecution,” the Ferguson court and others like it in nearby towns “engage in a number of operational procedures that make it even more difficult for defendants to navigate the courts.”

    The report goes on, “For example, a Ferguson court employee reported that the bench routinely starts hearing cases 30 minutes before the appointed time and then locks the doors to the building as early as five minutes after the official hour, a practice that could easily lead a defendant arriving even slightly late to receive an additional charge for failure to appear.”

    The lawyers of ArchCity Defenders specialize in representing the indigent and the homeless. They noticed that many of their clients had multiple warrants on minor charges issued by municipal courts in Ferguson and the other 80 municipalities in St. Louis County that have their own courts and police.

    “They didn’t just have one case, they had 10 cases,” says Thomas Harvey, the organization’s 44-year-old executive director.

    The warrants too often precluded the clients from securing shelter and services, and access to job programs. The lawyers sought some remedy in the issuing courts.

    “It kept being about the money,” Harvey recalls. “We were telling the court, ‘They don’t have any money because they’re homeless.’”

    That same venue where Wilson received his commendation and the City Council members applauded is where justice is insulted wholesale three times a week.

    The clients felt sure they were being targeted because they were black and poor, and told the lawyers tales of unfair treatment by everybody from the cops to the bailiffs to the judges.

    “I’ll be real honest, I didn’t believe them,” Harvey says.

    With the help of college students, ArchCity Defenders started a court watch program eight months ago. They concluded that much of what their clients had been saying was all too true. Impoverished defendants were frequently ordered to pay fines that were triple their monthly income. Some ended up with no income at all as they sat in jail for weeks, awaiting a hearing.

    ArchCity decided to focus on what seemed to be three of the worst cities.

    “Three courts, Bel-Ridge, Florissant, and Ferguson, were chronic offenders and serve as prime examples of how these practices violate fundamental rights of the poor, undermine public confidence in the judicial system, and create inefficiencies,” the subsequent report says.

    The report was all but complete and just needed an introduction when Harvey went on summer vacation. He chanced to return the day after Michael Brown was shot to death by Officer Darren Warren.

    “I got off the plane saying, ‘I got to finish this and get it out,’” Harvey recalls.

    Harvey understood that whatever the particular details of the tragedy, there was also a larger context.

    “It’s not just about Michael Brown and this officer,” Harvey says.

    The statistics assembled for the report concerning race and car stops in Ferguson were no great surprise, especially considering that its police department is proportionately even whiter than its City Council, with just three blacks among its 52 cops. The number that jumped out was the huge revenue, big bucks for a little burg.

    “Anybody who makes a revenue source a line of a budget becomes dependent on it,” Harvey suggests.

    But if the system’s objective was money, the result was still that many people felt targeted because of race and class.

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    tavon will adapt to this league. and the coaches will continue to find specific ways in which austin can use his explosion to help this offense. i agree with you rfl. just the normal process of developing a rookie with a different skill set than your typical “wide receiver”.

    I think we will see Austin do all kinds of things this year. The goal is 2000 combined yards–receiving, returning, rushing. The 3 Rs of Austinology.

    in reply to: Williams happy to wait for season to unveil his defense? #4632
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    In his chat JT said Wms directly answered how much of his defense he uses in the pre-season:

    someone asked Williams the other day how much of his defensive playbook has he exposed in the preseason. His answer: 22%

    My (safe) bet is, “22%” is not a real figure. It’s a metaphor for “I dunno maybe about a 5th of it.”

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    As promised the moderators conferred on this and their vote was, keep it here, unless it turns out people object. (Actually it amounts to this–it’s up to the poster on this topic. Post it in either forum, your call.)

    I would just add (and this comes spontaneously just from me) that with a potentially controversial topic like this, it’s better to keep adding to a single thread (until it drops back a couple pages) than it is to proliferate threads on it.

    Now back to the annoying “touchdown Seattle!” sound that keeps coming from my NFL pre-season feed.

    in reply to: JT chat #4628
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    Actually, no. If a player is claimed from waivers, unless I’m misremembering, he must be put on the active roster. That’s to prevent teams from simply tampering with another team’s ability to stock their practice squad.

    I think you;re right. You have to waive a guy to get him on your practice squad (if he clears) but if you pick up a guy on waivers, he goes to your roster.

    I will ask. It’ll take a day, but I’ll make sure.

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    MamaRAMa

    ESPN Magazine (pg. 98) shows Joe Barksdale as the Rams’ “Secret Superstar”. “Barksdale was a backup on his second team in three seasons when a Week 2 injury to Rodger Saffold forced him into duty. Barksdale allowed just 27 QB pressures in the rest of 2013- on par with LT Jake Long over that span. The NFL average for starting OT QB pressures allowed is 45.5.


    One-on-One with Joe Barksdale

    Joe Barksdale chats with Casey Phillips about his new hobby, starting at right tackle and playing on the road.

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/videos/videos/One-on-One-with-Joe-Barksdale/a8afbad2-a8e2-4ef0-b0bf-6b8224b6b070

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    in reply to: I remember this…a Kurt Warner story #4622
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    Didn’t Kurt get some criticism after it happened with Bulger?
    Wasn’t there some people who thought it showed
    Kurt didnt really wanna play for the Rams anymore,
    or lacked fire, or somethin. ?

    Heck maybe i was one of the critics. I forget.

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    My memories of this are vague. But in the back of my mind, yes, some criticized him for doing that with Bulger. In fact if I recall (and I am hoping someone with a clearer memory jumps in) bringing up the Eli thing was one way of defending him. It’s like, see that’s just Kurt.

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    Michael Sam still battling to make it in St. Louis

    Tom Pelissero, USA TODAY Sports 2:14 a.m. EDT August 22, 2014

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/rams/2014/08/21/michael-sam-st-louis-rams-nfl-first-openly-gay-player/14416535/

    Halfway through the preseason, rookie defensive end Michael Sam’s primary hurdle for making the St. Louis Rams’ roster hasn’t changed.

    It’s a numbers game with one of the NFL’s most talented defensive lines, and Sam — the seventh-round draft pick from Missouri who is trying to become the league’s first openly gay player — remains a third-stringer entering Saturday’s third exhibition at Cleveland.

    But when the final cuts come Aug. 30, former Rams vice president of player personnel Tony Softli believes Sam will survive — if he shows some versatility over the next two games to contribute on special teams.

    “Michael Sam has shown enough rushing the passer — and that’s what he is, he’s a DPR, he’s a designated pass rusher — that he can get off and beat a tackle on the upfield shoulder. He can spin and come underneath,” Softli told USA TODAY Sports on Thursday.

    “He’s got to prove he can do it on special teams, and I think that’s going to be his (way) to make this team.”

    Coach Jeff Fisher has stressed that few defensive ends contribute on special teams. And Sam’s limited chances there so far — six special-teams snaps against the Saints, three against the Packers — reflect that, though there should be more opportunities with starters playing longer Saturday.

    Sam has had some positive turns on defense. He notched his first sack late in last week’s loss to Green Bay, getting underneath Packers backup tackle Derek Sherrod with an outside move and chasing down Matt Flynn. Sam also got off a block for a run stop, notched a QB hit when he came unblocked and had a pressure with an inside rip move.

    An NFL personnel man who watched the game, speaking on condition of anonymity for competitive reasons, described Sam as “kind of a ‘try hard’ guy. Has some awareness. (Sam) will have a chance I think.”

    The question is whether a high motor and some productivity against opponents’ reserves can compel the Rams to go heavy at a position where starters Robert Quinn and Chris Long play most of the snaps, especially for a player with Sam’s athletic limitations.

    NFL teams analyze substitution patterns when anticipating cuts, so it hasn’t gone unnoticed that Ethan Westbrooks — an undrafted rookie from West Texas A&M, who got his first sack last week on a protection mistake by the Packers — entered the game before Sam both weeks.

    The Rams’ top four ends are likely set with Quinn, Long, Eugene Sims and William Hayes, provided Hayes makes it back from offseason surgeries. If Westbrooks — who, like Hayes, can play inside or outside — makes it, too, the Rams would have to keep six ends and decide to keep Sam over second-year pro Sammy Brown.

    If Sam hits waivers with about 700 other players Aug. 30, he could be claimed — you can never have enough pass rushers — and otherwise figures to be a good bet for the recently expanded practice squad in St. Louis, though there may be another defensive line that needs Sam’s help sooner than the Rams.

    “On paper, they have the chance to be the best (defensive line) in the league,” said Softli, who’s now working as an analyst and writing at tonysoftli.com. “These guys have a chance to be very special if they can stay healthy.”

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