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znModeratorOrlando Shooting Suspect Omar Mateen’s Ex Wife Says He Was Violent and Unstable
https://www.yahoo.com/news/orlando-shooting-suspect-omar-mateens-175248182.html
The ex wife of suspected Orlando gay bar shooter Omar Mateen claims her former spouse beat her during their relationship.
In an interview with the Washington Post in which she remains anonymous, the woman said Mateen was violent and emotionally unstable.
The 29-year-old died Sunday morning after police believe he killed at least 50 people during an early morning assault rifle attack at Pulse nightclub.
“He was not a stable person,” the ex-wife told the Post. “He beat me. He would just come home and start beating me up because the laundry wasn’t finished or something like that.”
The attack is being called the worst ever mass shooting in America’s long history of gun violence.
The ex wife, who spoke on the condition of anonymity out of fear for her personal safety, said she married Mateen about eight years ago after meeting him online.
When they first met, “he seemed like a normal human being,” the woman said.
However, after she said violence became the norm in the home, the woman’s family flew to Florida to help her get out of their Fort Pierce home.
The woman said she fled with none of her possessions. She said, in the wake of the attack Sunday, that she feels lucky to be alive.
Mateen was born in New York to parents from Afghanistan, the woman said.
Mateen’s father disavowed his son’s alleged actions. In an interview with NBC News, the father described an incident in Miami in which his son became enraged after seening two men kiss.
“We were in downtown Miami,” Mir Seddique said. “He saw two men kissing each other in front of his wife and kids and he got very angry. They were kissing each other and touching each other and he said, ‘Look at that. In front of my son they are doing that.’ And then we were in the men’s bathroom and men were kissing each other.”
znModeratorThe stupid governor of Texas quoted “reap what you sow” on this one.
Let’s hope it holds true for him saying that.
znModeratorGreg Robinson doesn’t ‘want to put any limitations on myself’
Ryan Black
http://auburn.247sports.com/Bolt/Greg-Robinson-doesnt-want-to-put-any-limitations-on-myself-45755164
Greg Robinson has just one objective for himself in the coming season.
“Really just to step up and be a leader, be there for the team,” Robinson said in a recent interview with the Los Angeles Rams’ official website. “Like I say, I don’t want to put any limitations on myself, so the sky is the limit. I think this is going to be one of the best years that I have. It’s all about how I prepare myself. I really look forward to it. I think it’s going to be special.”
Robinson, who was taken with the No. 2 overall pick by the Rams in the 2014 NFL draft, has appeared on the offensive line for all 32 regular season games the past two seasons, making 28 starts. But last season was a struggle, he admitted, due to the number of injuries suffered elsewhere on the line. Week to week, Robinson said he “didn’t know what to expect” as far as who may line up beside him.
That’s why things have been a work in progress since they reconvened for their organized team activities, known as OTAs for short.
“Everybody is still getting back into the groove of things; I feel like we’ve got a long way to go,” he said. “We’re not quite there, but the beauty of that is we don’t play until September.”
By that time, Robinson hopes to be noticeably slimmer. His goal during the offseason was to drop 20 pounds. Thus far, he’s only lost five.
“But I’ve got a little time,” he said. “I’ll probably work on it a little more in the rest of this offseason when I leave here. It’s really just critiquing and being aware of what I put in my body. I don’t think it’s going to be much of a challenge. I think I can do it.”
Robinson played at Auburn from 2011-13. After redshirting during his freshman season, he went on to make 25 starts at left tackle the next two seasons, including all 14 in the Tigers’ SEC championship campaign in 2013.
znModeratorI like to keep up with ex-Rams, to an extent anyway, and for a short while anyway, even if they were short-lived Rams.
Welker’s Rams career was as brief as those can get. He ranks with Lloyd as one of the recent Rams short-lived “Merc” receivers. Another is Marc Clayton.
znModeratorRams’ Todd Gurley the next big thing in Southern California sports
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/gurley-719034-rams-california.html
OXNARD – If, as the saying goes, stars are made, not born, what about those who are relocated?
Todd Gurley is poised to be the next big thing in Southern California sports. The Rams running back still might go unrecognized walking down local streets, particularly when his trademark shoulder-length dreadlocks are pulled back, but given his recent face time on national TV, that seems certain to change.
“Carl’s Jr.,’’ teammate Benny Cunningham said with a wry grin after a recent practice.
That’s his new nickname. You should call him that. He will like that.’’Gurley has received copious good-natured ribbing for his role as as a burger-pitcher. In the commercial, Gurley – who speaks only a few words – is greeted by an agent and selfie-taking admirers as he coolly strolls through an office while wearing a hat with a generic “L.A.” logo.
“Welcome to California, Todd Gurley,’’ shouts the agent, played by actor/comedian Jay Mohr.
And welcome, perhaps, to a void that needs to be filled, that of major Southern California sports icon.
Kobe Bryant has retired after an iconic 20-year career with the Lakers. Clayton Kershaw arguably is the best pitcher in baseball, but many viewers can’t even watch Dodgers games. The Angels’ Mike Trout is highly marketable but seems reticent to display charisma in a public way. The top players for the Kings and Ducks are more likely to pitch products in Canada.
Chris Paul is a contender, but at best he’s a very good player on a good Clippers team, and that franchise still is attempting to dribble out of the Lakers’ shadow.
The throne has been vacated, and Gurley can fill it. He’s telegenic, intelligent, community-minded and is coming off a 2015 rookie season in which he rushed for the third-most yards in the NFL (1,106).
It also doesn’t hurt that Gurley is represented by Roc Nation Sports, the agency founded by music star Shawn “Jay-Z” Carter.
“The region is looking for someone to embrace,’’ said David Carter, executive director of USC’s Sports Business Institute, “and not only because football is back but because Kobe Bryant’s presence will be diminished. And as long as the Dodgers struggle to get their bearings on TV, their stars will not have as constant a light shone on them. All of this makes his timing ideal.’’
There’s only one question: is this market ready to accept Gurley as a hometown hero? As of now, three months before the start of the NFL season, Gurley remains an outsider, and something of a quiet one.
Bryant arrived as a teenager and grew up here. Shaquille O’Neal and Manny Ramirez were imported, but announced their arrivals with boisterous enthusiasm. Gurley? He’s been placed gently on Southern California’s porch like a FedEx package from St. Louis. The locals are just beginning to unwrap him.
It’s a slow roll-out. At first glance, Gurley, only 21, certainly doesn’t scream “Hollywood.’’ In public and interview settings, he is good-natured but quiet. His social-media postings don’t reveal much, and his next inflammatory or self-congratulatory quote will be his first.
This doesn’t surprise those who know Gurley well.
“He’s very intelligent, and he’s never going to fly off the handle,’’ said Bryan McClendon, Gurley’s running backs coach for three years at Georgia. “He puts thought into everything he does, and he definitely thinks before he talks and acts.’’
In the next breath, though, McClendon describes Gurley as “almost too silly at times,” at least among those with whom he feels comfortable. Clearly there’s another side to Gurley. When will Los Angeles see it?
This is a Maryland native who became revered in Georgia, a chameleon who counts country singer Luke Bryan and rapper Waka Flocka among his friends. Gurley is the focal point of the Rams’ offense, and at least until rookie quarterback Jared Goff develops, the face of the franchise.
Yet rarely is Gurley’s the team’s most prominent voice.
“I just kind of do my game,’’ Gurley said. “I feel like sometimes I can be a natural leader more in terms of being in the weight room, working hard. Guys see that and they feed off of that. So, basically what I’m doing is not doing anything extra and making sure I’m holding myself accountable as well as my teammates.’’
There’s a quiet, steely confidence that is almost Bryant-like.
Some NFL pundits mocked the Rams when they used the No. 10 overall draft pick on Gurley in 2015, five months after he suffered a torn ACL. As a rookie, Gurley not only earned the starting job but finished behind only Minnesota’s Adrian Peterson and Tampa Bay’s Doug Martin for most rushing yards.
There was no bragging and no I-told-you-so from Gurley. At OTA practices this month, Gurley has talked only of improving and seems far more comfortable praising others than himself.
“When he first came in, he kind of kept to himself, but that’s how it is with everybody,’’ fellow Rams running back Cunningham said. “Once they get comfortable around the guys, you kind of see the true personality come out. He will let you all catch that one day. Hopefully you guys will catch the real Todd.’’
It’s there. Last year, Gurley filmed a candy commercial in which he wore a tutu and sang, “I’m A Little Teapot.” Gurley, quietly, has been a fixture at Rams community events over the past couple months. He might not yet be showing that Hollywood sizzle, but it’s early.
Gurley recently dropped the veil a bit. Asked, at the end of a relatively bland interview, to review the burger he endorsed in the commercial, Gurley raised his voice and perked up considerably.
“The burger was excellent. Go get one,” Gurley said, then added with a big grin, “There’s (a restaurant) right up the street, so I don’t want to hear any excuses.’’
znModeratorI liked Rothko’s stuff
I have sat for many an endless moment in front of his paintings
That’s one thing we all do have in common. We all like Rothko.
znModeratorRams receiver Tavon Austin isn’t so sure about 100 catches this year, but the more touches the better
Vincent Bonsignore, Los Angeles Daily News
OXNARD >> Given the full context, the slant pass Tavon Austin took to the house on Friday shouldn’t illicit more than a casual nod of approval.
Like everyone else on the Rams organized team activity practice field, Austin was in shorts, jersey, cleats and helmet. Which tells you all you really need to know about the limited physicality during the 11-on-11 portion of practice.
This was two-hand touch, NFL style.
So digest the play as you will.
The door you just heard open is the exit opportunity the pessimists will likely take advantage of right about now.
The optimists might want to stick around a bit.
See, by the time Austin made the catch just a few yards off the line of scrimmage, a group of defenders began converging on him. All it would have taken was one of them getting a good solid hand on Austin and the play would have been over.
Never happened.
A twitch here, a juke there and Austin was beyond the first couple of Rams defenders. Then a lean, a jab step and whoosh, he exploded past the second group on his way to open grass.
In his wake, flailing arms, disbelieving looks and genuine frustration.
And a chorus of oohhs and aahhs from his offensive teammates.
In a very imperfect version of football, this was as legitimate an explosiveness play as you see.
And it was Tavon Austin, defined.
Get him the ball, by any means necessary and at any point on a football field, and let the havoc ensue.
“The one thing we know about Tavon is, he’s a special playmaker,” said Rams offensive coordinator Rob Boras.
Which is why the Rams have made it an objective to get Austin the ball more this year, a quest that began last season when Boras took over as offensive coordinator the last four games and has carried over during the offseason.
“Any way you can get an explosive guy like that the ball, we’ve got to get creative and do it,” said Boras, who is concocting ways to do exactly that along with new Rams passing game coordinator Mike Groh.
Rams head coach Jeff Fisher let that little nugget out of the bag a couple of weeks ago when he predicted Austin could double the 52 catches he had last year to 104 this season.
“This offense has been re-designed to make sure he gets touches of the football,” Fisher said. “He’s going to have a big year this year.”
Still, the 104 catches seems extraordinarily ambitious for a player who’s averaged 41 catches per season over his first three years. Especially with rookie Jared Goff likely to be the starting quarterback.
If given the chance to explain, Fisher would probably amend his prediction to Austin doubling his offensive yardage production across the board.
Not just through pass receptions.
Austin did his best the throw Fisher a lifeline on that one Friday.
“I don’t think he means 100 catches,” Austin said, smiling. “That’s hard to do. This is the NFL.”
On the other hand, Austin isn’t about to quibble with the overall intent.
“Anytime your coach says he wants to get the ball in your hands more, that’s great,” he said.
Austin averaged 6.5 offensive touches per game last year, with 52 catches and 52 rushing attempts for a total of 907 yards and nine touchdowns.
There is no question the Rams can jack that touch count up. Maybe not double it, but elevating it to 10 per game from the line of scrimmage not only gives him a better chance to produce the big yardage Fisher hopes for, but it also forces defensive coordinators to account for him so much he becomes almost as valuable as a decoy as he does with the ball in his hands.
If the Rams establish Austin as an even bigger focal point, that means less focus on running back Todd Gurley and perhaps more space for fellow wide receivers to operate in.
But mostly it means the ball in the hands of Austin more, and for an offense that scored the second-fewest points in the NFL last year and was among the worst in most other offensive categories, that is essential.
The trick is figuring out creative ways to do that. Boras made it clear he is considering all options, so expect Austin to line up in a variety of different positions and for the ball to get in hands by all means available.
“Obviously, as a receiver, everyone wants to talk about catches he gets. But we can line him up in the backfield as we’ve done in the past, we can get him the ball on the perimeter on screens and reverses,” said Boras.
Austin is one of the most talkative Rams on the field, but admittedly quiet off it. Don’t expect him to make any demands one way or another.
“However it happens, whatever they need me to do, I’ll do it,” Austin said. “But for the most part, I don’t pay too much attention to all the numbers.”
znModeratorOTA One-On-One with Greg Robinson
Rams reporter Dani Klupenger gets an update from offensive lineman Greg Robinson on the Rams offensive line through OTAs
znModeratorMannion OTA Press Conference – 6/3
Quarterback Sean Mannion talks about taking reps with the first team and his comfort level entering his second season.
June 10, 2016 at 11:14 pm in reply to: fwiw, Keenum v. other Rams #2 qbs over the last 1o or so years #45865
znModeratorI would rather have Keenum than those other QBs you listed.
Keenum was asked to manage the game and not turn the ball over, just like every other Rams #2 I listed. Unlike all of the others, though, he did it a certain percentage better. For one thing he actually DIDN’T turn the ball over, and they could win games when he was at qb. The combined Rams record with all the other back-up qbs I listed — excluding Martin — is 12-23. The Rams do not have a winning percentage with any of those guys, though to be fair they were often playing in brutal circumstances (like Frerotte playing in the midst of the Great Unholy Rams OL Massacre of 2007.)
With Martin it was 4-1, but then that was with the GSOT offense. With Keenum it was 3-2 without the GSOT offense.
znModeratorI like this for 2 reasons.
1. My own take on the coaching I’ve said before…they managed to go 7-9 with a tough schedule while playing an inexperienced (plus Rams-style injured) OL and a qb who melted down like the wicked witch.
2. It would be really insane to expect anything from a new coach in this situation, since he would be in between several facilities and a new stadium and just getting oriented itself would be a major battle. That is right now, no coach is better equipped to get a team to play in the middle of this kind of situation. He knows the situation, plus he has done it before.
znModeratorI nominate Goff as the Rams player least likely to say “you know” a lot during interviews.
I could have done without the questions about Harry Potter.
Goff on Mannion: “Sean’s one of the smartest guys I’ve met playing football.”
znModeratorThis is good.
Good listen.
znModeratorWAGONER: some of the guys that I heard the most to keep an eye on included safety Brian Randolph and defensive backs Jabriel Washington (who Rams linebacker Mark Barron vouched for from a brief overlap at Alabama) and Mike Jordan.
Quotes on Mike Jordan:
He can play both corner and safety and his versatility and ball skills will make him a hard man for Fisher to move on from as those are two things he loves.
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Missouri Western defensive back Mike Jordan, a consensus first-team All-American and one of the top D2 players in the country regardless of position. At 6-0, 200 pounds with a 4.60 40-yard dash, Jordan is a well-built DB prospect with good enough speed to play inside at nickel or as a safety, and showed that he has the ability to also play outside at the cornerback position, and play it really well…
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znModeratoraid Joyner has played some CB and is doing well. The WRs complain about going against him in press coverage.
Yeah I believe Joyner played some CB last year too.
znModeratorAfter Johnson, the Rams’ cornerback depth chart features E.J. Gaines, Coty Sensabaugh, and Lamarcus Joyner. They’re serviceable, but nowhere near No. 22’s talent.
No there’s also Marcus Roberson and Troy Hill, and rookies Jabriel Washington and I believe Mike Jordan. So that’s 7 after Johnson.
And Gaines is not behind Johnson, he’s the other starting CB.
“Ramswire.” Right. How about “Rams sports blog not as good as an average message board.”
znModeratorI recognize the conservatism of Nixon and Reagan because I grew up with it and I was part of that for a time.
I don’t recognize any conservative ideology in current Republicanism
William F Buckley in the early 60’s nearly single-handedly used the power of persuasion to cast out the Birchers and argue against anti-Semitism. Prior to Buckley, the Republican Party couldn’t have cared less about Israel. People don’t know that.
The current rise of anti-Semitism can’t stand with those who support Israel (that came out more nationalistic than I meant it).
In math, there are these problems: solve these equations with N number of variables and N unknowns. Interestingly, whereas in math, we can’t typically solve these if the number of variables is greater than the number of unknowns, in economics we can because they’re not pure unknowns.
In the old days, even if you disagreed with the degrees or amount, the conservative solving of the equation dealt with the 3 variables, the poor, the middle class, and the rich.
Now, it deals with the rich and the middle class are a symptom of dealing with the rich. It’s the poor people’s fault for being poor so they get no consideration. And we see this in lots of policy proposals recently that would never have been proposed in 1982.
So instead of having variables X, Y, and Z, we have X, X1 (which will be a basic function relating to X like if X gets 100 units, X1 the cube root of that amount). There is no Y, because what the middle class gets is a function of what is given to the rich. And there is no Z. And unsurprisingly, this is a much easier equation to solve with plenty of wealthy people who like the solution.
Elimination of unemployment insurance
Elimination of workmans compensation
Elimination of the minimum wage
Elimination of WelfareThis list goes on
Now note that last one was accomplished by a center right corporatist Dem with a Republican House that realized that by having a DINO in the White House, they could actually swing farther to the right than if they had a figure held that would be held to account. And they did.
Nixon gave us the EPA and nearly gave us a single payer health insurance system modeled on Kaiser Permanente… Which is actually MORE to the left than what Bernie Sanders was proposing, which is government paying for the private delivery of healthcare. THAT was a conservative idea THEN.
To not acknowledge this is to not acknowledge the political road we’ve been traveling.
One last thing. We hear about Conservative Dems or Blue Dog Dems. Remember when there were Liberal Republicans? There were! CA, MA and other typically liberal bastions birthed them, but also places like Wyoming where party was family.
The Republican Party is no more the Party of Lincoln anymore than it is the Party of Reagan. Not in any measurable way.
Conservatism has gone to far and needs to find its way back with ideas that affect everyone positively.
Basically you’re talking about neo-liberal economics and its effects, right? Or no?
znModeratorI’m an artist, by blood and training. Both a visual artist and a poet. So “seeing” is essential to my way of seeing.
And from all ages and times and places, there are those who make that same claim—and speak differently about all of it. The aesthetics, the experience, the value, the purpose, the means, everything. Another way to approach this, then, is to notice there are different ways to approach this (many claiming some sort of truth), and that taken all together, they amount to many different things.
So for example the (commodified as a non-commodity) form of commodity you would advocate is still soaked in ideological imperatives and claims. That’s just inescapable.
You speak well for your vision but to me it still is and will only ever be just that.
If this were politics and not art, and we differed (which basically we don’t), that would be very apparent.
In art, people often naturalize the camp they belong to, and make high claims for its value. It just means you can’t produce art without a vision. Doesn’t make one vision more true than others.
I have been taken to task before by some for having what they thought of as exclusionary, museum taste. For example, I love 60s-90 avant garde jazz, everything from Coltrane to the Art Ensemble of Chicago. Some have said that’s too purist and removed. I don’t buy the objection. It doesn’t speak to my experience, and what I get from it.
I have also been taken to task by some for having low-brow, mass-market taste. For example, I love George Miller’s 3 good road warrior films. I am told they are empty mass spectacle. I don’t buy the objection. It doesn’t speak to my experience, and what I get from it.
But…and I am not alone, this too is a “thing”…I find different kinds of value in each. The objections are interesting but don’t hit home.
You are making claims from a distinct position. You have to live that as truth, or it apparently doesn’t work. To me it’s the same as a conservative seeing conservatively. The difference being, in politics I am compelled to resist and counter that position from my own position. With art, I note that there are different visions, but I don’t have any need to “refute” them. To me they are just part of the mix of competing, different visions, and I like to wander between neighborhoods.
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Being a consumer doesn’t have to mean engulfing all before you, without discrimination.
And it never does mean that. All that’s happening here is, you are homogenizing vast numbers of people (even tv execs know better than that) and not seeing into what/how they see these things. Besides, remember, if you take the theory of ideology seriously, there is no such thing as being outside it or beyond it. Therefore, the presumed discriminating cures for the presumably undiscriminating mass art forms will themselves be ideological, just in different ways. That’s why for example one generation saw Conrad as a heroic expose of imperialism and then the more recent generation sees him as a partial dissident within imperialism who unconsciously repeats many of the assumptions that were core to imperialism.
So you will never find a way to convince me of the “truth” of your claims—not argument from authority, not the rhetoric of manifesto advocacy, none of it. I will always have in mind other, competing visions, all of which I will just simply see as visions.
And you, my friend, should find nothing wrong with that. It’s just a different thing from your thing.
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znModeratorfrom off the net
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Christian Bryant picks off Goff. Go to the 2:35 mark to see it, OSU at Cal, 2013…
znModeratorWe disagree here, too. I see it as a way to get much closer to one’s time and place, by differentiating between the crap for crap’s sake and the really good to great.
Yeah that’s one of the arguments. You hear it a lot. I never bought it.
I counter-claim that all types of art are capable of doing that. IF you approach them in that spirit.
Works like this. In politics, people cannot help but see how they see. So to you, Obama was a classic conservative; to bnw he is a liberal. I SORT of “see the seeing” in that case but I am too invested…my vision is left of liberal, and I don’t really leave that, no matter how much I might try to stand outside it.
With art, though, I am really capable of that remove. I am far from alone—this too is a “thing”—and so I really can see the different ways of seeing, without the siren’s call to belong.
What I have found so many countless times that it is innumberable is that some things others from their own domain of taste, their way of seeing aesthetically, call either “crap” or “museum taste” actually contain something if you know how to look.
So I don’t buy in. I see people who do buy in saying what they say, and to me it just sounds like a neo-liberal saying neo-liberalism is truth, or a centrist saying the center is truth, and so on. I see a WAY of seeing and talking about it. And I don’t feel compelled to belong. My own experience contradicts that way too much.
You see yourself as a high-art advocate. And I see you seeing yourself as that. You see it as truth, and I still see it as a particular rhetoric of art experience, and as it happens, one among others.
That will always be the case. I am not dismissing or disdaining your vision the way I would a neo-liberal’s vision in the realm of politics, but to me it is and will always remain one possible vision among others. Meanwhile, by training or temperament or experience, I really am much more an art consumer without borders. That;s not “superior” or “better,” but it is different.
So I only see you speaking for a certain way of seeing and speaking. I don’t see it as “true.” I see it as one way among many others.
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znModeratorI’m talking about commodity in the capitalist sense.
Yes but the commodity as a form pre-exists capitalist economies. And, pre-capitalist modes of commodification co-exist within the era of capitalist markets. So the fact that art includes a heavy element of just sheer craftsmanship. That;s always true.
The whole idea of the “mass market” as merely a thoughtless pleasure of the masses, actually, IS a capitalist-era ideology. It is meant to disdain “the masses.” As such that view follows in the wake of earlier views which simply disdained popular cultural forms generally (like carnival, or popular music and the ballad, and so on.) Meanwhile, I have very quirky tastes–something I embrace as it happens—and so I am pleased by the interesting energies of some novels and films some others regard as “mere commodities.”
See I don’t make those divisions. I notice that they don’t always hold up. That really what we get is a mishmash of different, sometimes mutually oblivious markets. I personally like to be (to echo a phrase) an art consumer without borders.
My thinking is, there’s all kinds of ways to do things, and I like to be open to surprises. An interesting example of this is television. As a rule, people are so used to thinking of tv as degraded mass spectacle, that they cannot even tell you what peculiar aesthetic strengths belong pretty much exclusively to tv type narratives. People will enjoy tv, but in their own minds dismiss that pleasure, and what they will LIKE about TV will turn out to be among the things that are unique to the medium. But then they won’t be able to name those things…as if they didn’t exist. And you want to know how quirky this gets? Having said all that, I am not a tv guy. I will Tivo certain things…rarely tv shows in the ordinary sense (usually tv documentaries)…and when friends talk about the shows they like, I don’t even know about them. So someone who really doesn’t watch tv just said televisual narratives have unique aesthetic properties you tend not to find in other media (like film or prose fiction or stage drama).
I never bought the “real art” argument. To me that’s a regime of taste. It is meant to quixotically distance the people who buy into it from their own time and place and culture and history.
And that is said by someone who is married to a woman who made a living much of her life playing classical music for a living in europe. In fact she played opera. Something I rightfully admire.
Honestly, I am among those who SEES there are (and always have been) competing and different regimes of taste and does not really belong to any of them.
But I don’t think of myself as shallow. I also don’t think of myself as “deep.”
znModeratorThe vast majority of movies are not art. They are a commodity. “Troy” is a commodity.
We agree on that. See, WV? More common ground!!
All art is a commodity. Or rather that is one of the things it is. It has different kinds of value and cost attached to it, and is traded for things or money or status or prestige or all of the above.
But taste? That can differ. Within a given range, people have different experiences and like different things. My view is that there will always be different tastes. Some create exclusionary domains of taste which are then supposed to “reflect character.” Some just note that there are always different domains of taste…and leave it at that.
June 10, 2016 at 9:06 am in reply to: Rams Believe They Can Get A Late-Round Pick For Nick Foles In Coming Months? #45799
znModeratorWhen all is said and done, including replacing a roster spot, the Rams save virtually no money, but they would receive a draft choice. imo
That’s what I thought.
So the article (above) is wrong.
znModeratorJEFF FISHER AND LES SNEAD DISCUSSING EXTENSIONS WITH L.A. RAMS.
Jeff Fisher and Les Snead haven’t lead the Los Angeles Rams to the playoffs yet, but they’ve done enough to earn new contracts with the team. It’s important to have continuity.
znModerator. It’s the complete rejection of 2700 years of plot line that pisses me off. Not “change,” per se. But the trashing of the original in the process.
Well…I don’t see changing as trashing it. I just respond to all that differently.
Take history. I like, in a rather unsophisticated pure pleasure way, Brit historical dramas. The King’s Speech. Elizabeth. The Queen. Rob Roy. The Madness of King George.
I don’t know if you enjoy those at all, but I do. And they absolutely MASSACRE history.
Sometimes it’s subtle, sometimes it’s so flagrant I laugh out loud in the theater. For example, in Elizabeth, it is set up so it looks like Walsingham poisons Mary Queen of Scots in Scotland. When her death is revealed, I just couldn’t help laughing (actually Mary was executed for treason by Elizabeth’s advisors, and she was in their hands because she was living in exile in England). Anyway here’s this shocking moment in the film, we discover the elegant and noble Mary dead, and I am the only person in the theater laughing.
In The King’s Speech, it;s more subtle–Churchill backs George and supports him in the face of Edward’s abdication. Actually Churchill supported Edward and argued publicly against abdication.
I register all those things, but in the end, it doesn’t detract from my pleasure in that kind of film. In fact it’s kind of interesting to notice the ways the filmmakers think they have to alter history.
That’s an analogy but it does kind of speak for how I see all this. So I just think we approach all this in completely different ways.
June 9, 2016 at 10:34 pm in reply to: Rams Believe They Can Get A Late-Round Pick For Nick Foles In Coming Months? #45790
znModeratorIf the Rams were able to find a trade partner, they would pick up $6.75 million in cap space and just $2 million in dead money. Although, Cole says teams may be reluctant to trade a draft pick for him at this point in time.
Is this true? The trade partner would pick up a guaranteed and already paid roster bonus? That doesn’t sound right. I thought whoever traded for him would just have 0.75 M on their cap with him.
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June 9, 2016 at 5:43 pm in reply to: Keenum will be the starter to open camp…how close or far is Goff? #45777
znModeratorJared Goff continues to impress at Rams workouts
By Gary Klein
http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-ota-20160608-snap-story.html
The rookie quarterback calmly surveyed the defense, took the snap and looked for receivers amid the pass rush before tucking the ball and scrambling into the end zone for a touchdown.
It was one of the final plays of the Rams’ workout Wednesday, and Jared Goff continued to show something new.
That has been the theme through five organized team activities practices in Oxnard, where the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft continues to progress.
Goff was not made available to reporters Wednesday, but coaches and teammates said that despite expected miscues, the rookie has impressed during the noncontact practices.
“I can’t wait till he gets it all down,” cornerback Trumaine Johnson said. “He’s learned the playbook fine. Once he gets comfortable, the sky is the limit for him.”
As he did in previous workouts, Goff had a few passes intercepted. But he also connected with receivers on several difficult throws, including one to undrafted free agent Nelson Spruce for a touchdown.
Coach Jeff Fisher praised Goff’s ability to bounce back.
“Jared saw a couple things out here that he hadn’t seen before, and the ball ends up in the defensive players hands,” Fisher said. “The best thing … was he walks in the huddle and goes, ‘Hey, that was on me. Let’s go to the next play and we’ll go on.’
“He doesn’t dwell on things.”
Goff also seeks feedback.
Receiver Pharoh Cooper, a fourth-round draft pick, said Goff consults with him after bad plays to review coverages or quickly review why a play broke down.
“That’s kind of good things you notice in him, just trying to build his leadership,” Cooper said.
Goff, like many new players, is struggling at times because “there’s a lot of thinking going on,” offensive coordinator Rob Boras said.
“There’s going to be good and bad,” he said. “It’s just don’t make the same mistake twice.”
Boras knew Goff’s skill set from studying him on film. The coach is learning other parts of the quarterback’s makeup.
“We all heard how competitive he is — and you feel it,” Boras said, adding, “We knew the ability he has as a passer. It’s just kind of undressing those other things.”
Goff, Cooper and other drafted rookies are expected to sign contracts Thursday, a person with knowledge of the situation said.
Rookie contracts are slotted, so Goff’s contract will slightly exceed the four-year, $26.7-million deal that No. 2 pick Carson Wentz signed with the Philadelphia Eagles. Wentz’s deal included a $17.6-million signing bonus.
Stedman Bailey update
Receiver Stedman Bailey cleared waivers and will be placed on the Rams’ non-football injury list.
Bailey, who is recovering from gunshot wounds to the head suffered last November, has not been cleared for football activities and will not play this season.
“As I’ve said numerous times, he’s lucky to be alive,” Fisher said. “I’m so impressed he’s gotten back into shape and is willing to play. But there really, at this point, is no medical research that will permit him to play.”
Bailey still will have a role with the Rams, Fisher said.
“I’m going to be selfish and try to bring him over on the coaching side,” he said, adding, “There’s a lot of work behind the scenes that needs to be done, so we’ll put him behind a desk and bring him out on the field and see how he likes it.”
Quick hits
Quarterback Dylan Thompson, who signed this week, practiced for the first time. Thompson played with Cooper at South Carolina. “We had a couple good plays,” Cooper said, grinning.
znModeratorMannion just won’t go away in QB race.
Jeff Smith
Sean Mannion just won't go away in the Rams QB race
Remember around, say, a week ago, when many were assuming that quarterback Sean Mannion would be in the mix as a player who the Los Angeles Rams may very well choose to part ways with?
Yeah, that doesn’t seem quite as likely anymore.
After another day of OTAs for the Rams on Tuesday, much of the talk was about how rookie QB Jared Goff struggled at times throughout the session. What many people weren’t talking about? How apparently impressive Mannion was all day long.
Fortunately, offensive coordinator Rob Boras made sure to send plenty of praise in the direction of Mannion, per Vincent Bonsignore of the Los Angeles Daily News:
While Goff may be struggling to early on in the offseason, there’s little reason to freak out just yet. Mannion may be slowly working his way up the depth chart as well, but there’s zero reason to believe that he has any chance to overtake Goff.
But Mannion supplanting Case Keenum? That may be a conversation worth having.
znModeratorJune 9, 2016 at 4:03 pm in reply to: For liberals and conservatives, ideology trumps scientific consensus… #45770
znModeratorTo me, that sort of rigidity is a problem and deters progress
No it’s not. No it doesn’t. Everything’s fine. If there were any REAL evidence for your position, someone would have written an article by now.
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