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  • in reply to: Cooper Kupp #68236
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    This guy might consider doing voiceover and not putting himself in the picture.

    It was late and there wasn’t anything else on.

    I like him. He’s good. Thanks for posting it.

    But it’s hard to watch his facial ticks and twitches. If that sounds harsh…but still!

    So he might consider just doing a voiceover.

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    You know, I have to say. You do not normally see receiving TE types breaking tackles like this guy does.

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    Finally got our Center.

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    Alright….at least they addressed the Center position somewhat…whew.

    They’ve said both OL signed in UDFAs would be tried at center.

    But they did address the center position. Along with signing Sullivan, basically they are trying all the guards at center (Donnal, Brown, Wichmann) plus they have 2 guys on the roster with center experience (Rhaney, Arkin). Add the 2 UDFAs to that, and it’s at least 7 guys.

    And remember, we wanted Groy. Groy is a Kromer product–a converted guard, and originally a UDFA. So using Groy as an example, it looks like Kromer has reason to be confident in his ability to do that.

    They had a veteran minicamp before the draft. Kromer had a chance to see how his young center prospects are looking. That was apparently enough of an indication for them to take OL off the board when the draft came up.

    In their post-draft press conference, both Snead and McVay directly addressed this. Their line was that they and Kromer agreed that they had enough OL prospects on hand they liked to develop that they did not consider it an issue. In fact they say that Kromer told them that it was unlikely this draft would produce OL players who were upgrades over what they already had.

    Now of course having said all that…it better work.

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    Rams’ undrafted free agents include 2 OL, 4 DBs

    Alden Gonzalez
    ESPN Staff Writer

    http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/33706/rams-undrafted-free-agents-include-2-ol-4-dbs

    Shortly after selecting eight players, the Los Angeles Rams scrambled for undrafted free agents. They wound up with 11 of them. Below is a look at each.

    Ishmael Adams, DB, UCLA: Adams, 5-foot-8, switched from cornerback to receiver for his senior year with the Bruins, finishing with 20 catches for 178 yards while also returning punts and kickoffs. As a redshirt freshman in 2013, he intercepted a team-leading four passes. From 2014 to 2015, he returned three of those interceptions for touchdowns. The Rams will use him as a defensive back.

    Jared Collins, DB, Arkansas: Listed at 5-11, 173 pounds, Collins was a starter in his last three years with the Razorbacks and finished his collegiate career with two interceptions and four forced fumbles. He had 34 pass breakups in 38 games from 2014 to 2016.

    Kevin Davis, ILB, Colorado State: From the Rams in college to the Rams in the pros. Davis (6-2, 235) really came into his own in his last two years at Colorado State, totaling 24 1/2 tackles for loss. He picked up three sacks and four forced fumbles in 2016.

    Justin Davis, RB, USC: Davis split carries over his last three years with the Trojans, running for a combined 2,104 yards and 13 touchdowns on 408 carries. He missed three games as a senior because of a high-ankle sprain and, at 6-1 and 208 pounds, doesn’t necessarily possess the strength and physicality to be an effective interior runner.

    Jake Eldrenkamp, OL, Washington: Eldrenkamp is considered an athletic, technically sound lineman who can be a natural fit in a zone scheme. Listed at 6-5, 297 pounds, Eldrenkamp would benefit from some added weight. He’s naturally a guard, but the Rams will also give him a shot at center.

    Anthony McMeans, OL, New Mexico State: A true center, McMeans, 6-2 and 320 pounds, was an honorable mention on All-Sun Belt Conference teams as a junior and senior. He received a fair amount of interest from other teams as an undrafted free agent and should get a decent chance to stick with the Rams.

    Johnny Mundt, TE, Oregon: Mundt entered his senior year with 23 career catches for 349 yards, then suffered a knee injury in the opener. At that point, he figured he would eventually just return home and help his family run its farming business. But Mundt played well late, with 19 catches for 265 yards and three touchdowns over the last six games, and will give this football thing another shot.

    Folarin Orimolade, OLB, Dartmouth: The Bushnell Cup winner for best Ivy League defensive player, Orimolade (6-0, 235) finished his senior year with nine sacks, 14 1/2 tackles for loss and five forced fumbles. He compiled 23 1/2 sacks throughout his collegiate career.

    Aarion Penton, DB, Missouri: Penton was the 242nd-ranked player on Mel Kiper Jr.’s Big Board. He is a bit undersized, at 5-9 and 177 pounds, and doesn’t necessarily boast great speed. But he does have solid ball skills. Penton finished his senior year with a career-high five interceptions.

    Casey Sayles, DT, Ohio University: Listed at 6-3, 288 pounds, Sayles totaled 12 1/2 tackles for loss and 7 1/2 sacks as a junior and senior for the Bobcats. The Rams are pretty set at defensive line right now, but have several veterans that are headed towards free agency next offseason.

    Dravious Wright, DB, NC State: Wright didn’t intercept any passes in college, but did break up five of them as a senior, while also forcing four fumbles. He’s listed at 5-10, 208 pounds and has experience as a corner and safety.

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    This guy might consider doing voiceover and not putting himself in the picture.

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    in reply to: Samson Ebukam #68203
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    Michael Lombardi‏@mlombardiNFL
    Samson Ebukam from Eastern Wash, was not invited to the combine, or played in an all-star game, but has excellent rush skills 3-4 backer

    Michael Lombardi‏ @mlombardiNFL
    I can’t stand the articles after the draft critiquing teams for picking players too early–it only matters how they play, not where they are picked

    in reply to: informal poll…how do you rate this draft? #68200
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    My first post on this just does Friday. This one does the whole draft.

    Frankly, I can’t remember the last draft where I saw something interesting and exciting in practically every pick.

    Everett. The skills are all there, but what sold me was an interview I saw with him. He just has the mind and mentality of a serious and passionate pro. A very impressive guy, but not in an over the top way–he’s just quietly intense and bright, yet down to earth. So if nothing else I am rooting for him. If he can master the Jordan Reed role, that would be very valuable. He’s also very good in the open field, very physical. Kind of a unique type for a receiving tight end when it comes to that.

    Johnson. Word around is, he just fits what Wade wants from his free safeties. This was a deep, deep draft for safeties–as deep a draft for safeties as anyone can remember–and so basically Wade just had his pick at that point. I just trust that. Both Rams safeties are FAs next year so this pick matters.

    Kupp. I can see why the draftniks are so into him. At minimum you get a taller Amendola, I think.

    Reynolds also inspired enthusiasm among the draftniks, and looking into him a bit, I can see why. He can make freaky Brandon Lloyd style gumby body adjustments and has a lot of tenacity.

    Ebukam. Wade again. They needed another OLB/rusher and there is a lot to like about this guy, plus Wade knows what he wants in a defender. This draft was not only deep at safety, it was deep at edge rusher too, and once again, Wade had his pick of what was there.

    Smart. Listening to the DL coach, they see him playing at all 3 DL positions (DT, NT, DE). He may be short but he has long arms and good leverage. They just see him as a playmaker, always in the backfield.

    Rogers is a crowd favorite, and rightly so. A good pass and run blocking FB they can line up anywhere, from in-line to in the backfield, plus he can catch and run some. Think of all the old original great WCO teams and their FBs. Same thing. Versatile.

    Price is kind of just a role player for passing downs but a very good one. If Smart and Price and Ebukam ALL work out, then, added to Donald, Quinn, and Barwin–plus Ogletree, I think–they are going to be drowning in pass rushers.

    If Everett, Kupp, and Reynolds can come through they will obviously get lots of playing time now and more in the future but it will probably be hard to name who are the “starters” among the skill players…they will just all get time. Rogers will probably be the FB, when they use a FB, and how much they do that remains to be seen. I see Johnson and Ebukam as starters, maybe as soon as 2018. Price will be situational unless they convert him to ILB and that would be down the road. Smart is rotational. The only one I have any doubts about making the squad is Smart.

    This is just a hunch/opinion in its early stages of forming, but, I have to say, it is clear how they ranked this draft. Forget about the normal ways of assessing picks. They add something–they want smart, dedicated, productive guys with great character. A type. And from what I can see, all of these guys fit that. If someone has all those things they will cut slack on other thins like level of competition and measureables. This was a McVay Rams draft from top to bottom. If you use THEIR criteria then this is an “A” draft.

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    in reply to: Cooper Kupp #68195
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    Well i just watched the highlights and I think they just drafted a white guy.

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    There you go again, bringing highlights into it.

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    in reply to: Cooper Kupp #68192
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    Btw in terms of Kupp and slow 40 times, here’s some top receivers who ran slower than a 4.55:

    Jerry Rice – 4.71
    Anquan Boldin – 4.71
    Larry Fitzgerald – 4.63
    Cris Carter – 4.63
    Brandon Lloyd – 4.62
    T.J. Houshmandzadeh – 4.61
    Steve Largent – 4.6
    Antonio Brown – 4.57
    Chad Johnson – 4.57
    Brandon Marshall – 4.56
    Hines Ward – 4.55

    If you look at that list, one thing becomes clear–the slower you are as a receiver, the better you are. So, I predict Kupp will be great.

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    We were wondering where Smart would line up. DL coach Johnson (vid link below) sheds some light on that. He says that in spite of being short, Smart has nice long arms and good leverage, so they can see him at DT (Donald’s spot), NT, and even DE. Obviously we don’t know if that will pan out, but they are thinking of him as someone who can play anywhere on the line.

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    D-Line Coach Bill Johnson Comments on Smart

    Los Angeles Rams defensive line coach Bill Johnson discusses the Rams’ sixth round draft pick of Tulane defensive tackle Tanzel Smart.

    http://www.therams.com/videos/videos/D-Line-Coach-Bill-Johnson-Comments-on-Smart/5354057e-491f-4546-868e-6823bdc6479f

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    Rams’ 2017 draft adds depth at receiver and along defensive front

    By RICH HAMMOND

    link: http://www.ocregister.com/2017/04/30/analysis-rams-2017-draft-adds-depth-at-receiver-and-along-defensive-front/

    The NFL draft is over, and the Rams have added eight players that first-year Coach Sean McVay can use in an attempt to improve upon last year’s 4-12 record and the team’s dreadful offense.

    The Rams selected one fullback (Sam Rogers), two receivers (Cooper Kupp and Josh Reynolds), one tight end (Gerald Everett), one defensive lineman (Tanzel Smart), two linebackers (Samson Ebukam and Ejuan Price) and one safety (John Johnson).

    Here’s a position-by-position look at how the draft likely will change things for the Rams.

    RUNNING BACK

    Sixth-round pick Rogers (5-foot-10, 231 pounds) is a fullback who also can be a significant special-team contributor and a receiving threat. In four years at Virginia Tech, Rogers caught 72 passes for 802 yards and seven touchdowns.

    The Rams will try desperately to get Todd Gurley going, after their run game was disastrous in 2016, and in Lance Dunbar, the Rams added a versatile back through free agency. Malcolm Brown also returns as a 5-foot-11, 224 bowling ball who ran well in a limited role last season.

    RECEIVER

    The Rams made two interesting additions in Kupp (Eastern Washington) and Reynolds (Texas A&M), and both have the potential to play early.

    Kupp, a third-round pick, projects as slot receiver, but if he can also thrive on the outside, it would help the Rams tremendously. Reynolds, a fourth-round pick, is a potential deep threat, but it remains to be seen whether he has the strength and consistency to be an every-down receiver.

    The role of newly added receiver Robert Woods, a steady possession guy, figures to be unchanged, but it will be interesting to see how Austin, a talented speedsters who has underachieved, will be impacted by the arrival of Reynolds.

    With receivers such as Pharoh Cooper, Nelson Spruce, Bradley Marquez and Mike Thomas also in the fold, there figures to be plenty of training-camp competition.

    TIGHT END

    McVay loves his tight ends, and he added a potential big-play guy in the second round when the Rams drafted Everett out of South Alabama.

    Everett and Tyler Higbee, a fourth-round pick last year, could be McVay’s new version of Jordan Reed and Vernon Davis, the tight-end duo he used as Washington’s offensive coordinator.

    The draft probably isn’t good news for Temarrick Hemingway, a sixth-round pick last year, because the Rams also have veteran Cory Harkey, a strong blocker.

    DEFENSIVE LINE

    The Rams used a sixth-round pick on Smart (Tulane), a 6-1, 296-pound defensive tackle who could serve as a backup to Aaron Donald.

    This unit might not be as deep as it was in 2016, in part because of the scheme change, but Donald still leads the way in the middle, with Michael Brockers, Ethan Westbrooks and Dominique Easley all expected to play at a high level.

    LINEBACKER

    The 3-4 scheme of new defensive coordinator Wade Phillips puts a premium on edge rushers, and fourth-round pick Ebukam (Eastern Washington) is considered a high-ceiling prospect who might not need to play right away.

    The Rams also drafted Price in the seventh round, and he could serve as a backup to Robert Quinn on the edge.

    Quinn will transition from defensive end, and the Rams signed strong veteran Connor Barwin. Ebukam probably needs some skill refinement in order to contribute at the NFL level, but he will have a great teacher in Phillips and he arrives with outstanding speed and aggressiveness.

    Alec Ogletree and Mark Barron remain on track to start at inside linebacker.

    SAFETY

    The Rams addressed their depth problem here when they picked Johnson out of Boston College late in the third round.

    Johnson has the potential to back up strong safety Maurice Alexander and free safety Lamarcus Joyner, who will transition from cornerback. That’s important because the Rams are light on safeties, with Cody Davis as the only backup who has logged a significant number of NFL snaps.

    Here’s a look at the positions that remained unchanged after the draft…

    QUARTERBACK

    Clearly, the Rams made their big move at quarterback a year ago when they drafted Jared Goff. Sean Mannion, a fifth-round pick in 2015, is slotted to be Goff’s backup and the Rams recently signed Aaron Murray to be their third-stringer.

    OFFENSIVE LINE

    It was a bit surprising not to see the Rams make any additions here, but they have some internal versatility. Free-agent addition Andrew Whitworth is locked in at left tackle, and the Rams hope new center John Sullivan can stay healthy. Rodger Saffold, Greg Robinson and Rob Havenstein all have the potential to play either tackle or guard.

    CORNERBACK

    Trumaine Johnson apparently isn’t going to get traded, and the Rams will continue to work on a contract extension. There’s some depth behind Johnson, with E.J. Gaines, Kayvon Webster, Troy Hill and nickelback Nickell Robey-Coleman.

    SPECIAL TEAMS

    Greg Zuerlein and Johnny Hekker remain the incumbents at kicker and punter, respectively, but several of this year’s draft picks have the potential to contribute on coverage units, and Kupp could be a kick returner.

    RAMS 2017 DRAFT PICKS
    Second round, No. 44 overall: Gerald Everett, tight end, South Alabama
    Third round, No. 69 overall: Cooper Kupp, receiver, Eastern Washington
    Third round, No. 91 overall: John Johnson, safety, Boston College
    Fourth round, No. 117 overall: Josh Reynolds, receiver, Texas A&M
    Fourth round, No. 125 overall: Samson Ebukam, linebacker, Eastern Washington
    Sixth round, No. 189 overall: Tanzel Smart, defensive tackle, Tulane
    Sixth round, No. 206 overall: Sam Rogers, fullback, Virginia Tech
    Seventh round, No. 234 overall: Ejuan Price, linebacker, Pittsburgh

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    Jim Everett‏ @Jim_Everett ·

    It was nice to witness our #LARams evaluate and select players partially based on #Football #IQ!

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    Draft and UDFA recap and opinion .

    Let me first say that I am a fan of this draft. I know there will probably be many who would have made other picks at specific spots … but the value and timing was good on every pick in my opinion … and I expect there to be fierce competition come August.

    2) Gerald Everett after a trade down … This, if anyone remembers, was literally my second option after drafting Engram at 37. Everett had pretty close to first round talent and was really only dinged by competition level. He’s smart and can be the slot bowling ball. It’s a needed part of the offense and there were only 3 real top end options. We got one.

    3) Cooper Kupp. Every time someone speaks of a poor 40 time someone else mentions Jerry Rice or Anquan Boldin. Both likely hall of famers. Because the tenacity with which they play the game and their commitment to their craft made them more than just football players, it made them technicians. As a small school kid, he came into the Senior Bowl and dominated against a really solid class of CBs. He was slower than them, and it didn’t matter. I’m a huge fan of this pick.

    3) John Johnson S … I think there were quite a few scratching their heads here … especially with Jourdan Lewis going next. Johnson is 6-0 208 with the feet and hips of a CB … and we are a year away from having decisions to make on Mo and Joyner IIRC. He’s likely our starter at the position going forward into the next era.

    4) Josh Reynolds WR … Again, I had him ranked much higher than most, and he was one of my favorite players in the draft, because he’s skinny and plays fearlessly. The catches he made at Senior Bowl practice against stiff competition wowed me multiple times, and that’s after I was already a fan and expected him to succeed. The odds of Kupp and Reynolds being our 1 and 2 going forward are actually really high. I bet we keep 6 WRs … but they will have to work for it.
    Reynolds in the 4th was on most of my mocks …

    4) Ebukam … 3-4 OLB with great measurables and bend to groom behind two starters and to play special teams … count me in. This is the spot where you take your flier on an athletic kid.

    The 5th round was hard for me watching a lot of players come off the board.

    6) Tanzel Smart. Some liked him as a 2nd or 3rd round option. He’s depth for now but he has been a productive player playjng a LOT of snaps for many years.

    6) Sam Rogers. Okay, I guess if you want a FB, this is the guy. I liked him much better than the FSU kid.

    7) Ejuan Price … another one of my targets and one of my favorite underdog players. I had him labeled as a top 3 round pick until I saw his height. And I couldn’t get past it. Still had him with a 4th or fifth round grade … he is non stop motor and has a rather large amount of pash rush savvy. He’s a football player.

    Justin Davis is my top UDFA. He’s a solid backup that has size and speed and experience.

    Penton is a great nickel … plays angry.

    Dravorious Wright I think will surprise people, overshadowed by Josh Jones at NC state …

    Johnny Mundt had to deal with weird QB and scheme stuff at Oregon or he would have been valued higher.

    Eldrenkamp I had graded in the mid to late rounds …

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    I know Rhaney is happy that he has no competition for his backup spot.

    Chances are they are converting a guard. If Kromer didnt think that would work, based on the time he just recently spent with them, chances are they would have drafted a center. Remember people were disappointed that Buffalo matched on Groy. Well…Groy is a Kromer guard convert.

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    he’s smooth like brandon lloyd. but he’s much taller.

    I was thinking of something different. I was thinking of the way Lloyd contorted himself to adjust to throws. Long arms, gumby style body, athletic but weirdly athletic, as in “I didn’t know a person could bend that way.” I am saying Reynolds has a bit of that.

    Lloyd:

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    We tend to adopt the view of those we like because we want to be associated with them. Has nothing to do with Capitalism, Corporate blah blah, or any other institutional cynicism. The “system” does not shape us.

    I have to say, W, and with all due respect, all of that just rings as being patently false. Besides the issue isn’t “neighborhoods” or “friends” or “people we like”…it has a lot more to do with primary identifiers, like class, race, and so on—things which come with interests, as in it’s in our interests to do x or y, it’s not in our interests to do y or z. Anyway what people DO tend to do, unless they find ways to get outside of themselves, is to repeat their own local worldviews as if they were godly truths. The way you get outside of your own narrow worldview and the mistaken idea that it gives you worldly wisdom (and not just a tilted perspective) is to learn about different ways of thinking and living and seeing. But to do THAT, you have to want to. It’s not easy because most of us just sit back and go “ah yes the world is as I think it is, naturally and of course.”

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    Looking at these highlights, Reynolds does remind me a bit of Danario Alexander, like IR said in the chat room. It’s like he;s a cross between some Danario DNA plus some Brandon Lloyd DNA.

    i didn’t say it, but i agree with it.

    let’s just hope he doesn’t have the knees of danario.

    That’s right, that was Zooey not you.

    Danario was faster, but there are similarities.

    What surprised me though are the similarities to Brandon Lloyd. The Gumby catch radius and freaky body contortions to adjust to thrown balls.

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    from Prisco’s NFL Draft Grades

    Pete Prisco

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/priscos-nfl-draft-grades-for-all-32-teams-five-earn-as-two-fall-short-with-ds/

    Los Angeles Rams

    They traded their first-round pick last year to get quarterback Jared Goff, so they had to wait until the second round to pick. When they did pick, they seemed to focus on helping Goff. Their second-round pick was tight end Gerald Everett, and they followed that up with Eastern Washington receiver Copper Kupp in the third and Texas A&M receiver Josh Reynolds in the fourth. They didn’t take an offensive lineman, which was strange.
    Grade: C-

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    If you’re looking at the wrong things, you’ll miss the point about new Ram WR Cooper Kupp

    VINCENT BONSIGNORE

    link: http://www.ocregister.com/2017/04/29/bonsignore-if-youre-looking-at-the-wrong-things-youll-miss-the-point-about-new-ram-wr-cooper-kupp/

    As part of their due diligence in digging into Eastern Washington wide receiver Cooper Kupp, the Rams requested an official 15-minute sit-down with the record-breaking receiver at the NFL combine in March.

    Teams get only 60 such sit-downs spread over three nights in Indianapolis, and considering there are more than 300 prospects on hand it’s imperative for teams and players to make the most of the opportunity.

    In Kupp’s case, the experience was, well, enlightening.

    As part of the process, Rams coach Sean McVay put Kupp through a series of technical questions designed to get into his head and create a baseline for his cerebral knowledge of the wide receiver position.

    McVay may be only 31, but he’s a football lifer who might as well have grown up clutching a playsheet in one hand and a whistle in another.

    The pace, cadence and lingo in which he speaks is pure football.

    In Kupp, McVay found almost a kindred spirit.

    “You felt like you’re almost talking to a receiver coach,” McVay remembered.

    Good thing for Rams receivers coach Eric Yarber, then, that Kupp still has a whole bunch of football to play before he starts contemplating a possible coaching career. McVay pointed that out to Yarber, who was barely a month into his new job at the time, as Kupp walked the Rams staff through the ins and outs of playing wide receiver.

    “I looked over a (at Yarber) I said, ‘You’re lucky we just hired you man. We might have to hire this guy if he was coaching.’” McVay said.

    He was joking, of course. And for now, Yarber’s job is safe. In fact, if Kupp has any say in the matter Yarber might soon be in line for a promotion. But it will be Kupp’s play rather than his words that help elevate Yarber’s profile.

    The Rams made Kupp the 69th pick in the NFL draft Friday night and they envision him being a highly productive player in McVay’s offense and a trusted ally of second-year quarterback Jared Goff.

    Those 15 minutes in Indianapolis didn’t cinch the deal, but they did shed some light on how a small-school standout who checked in with a 4.6 time in the 40 could put together such a dominant four-year run at FCS-level Eastern Washington.

    Including the blowtorch he took to the Pac-12 every time he stepped foot on the field with the big boys.
    Kupp finished his career with 428 catches for 6,464 yards and 73 touchdowns, which is a ridiculous level of production on any level.

    But he saved a particular slice of savagery for the Pac-12, a conference that deemed him too slow coming out of high school to offer him a scholarship. In four games against Washington State, Washington, Oregon and Oregon State, Kupp served up a hefty spoonful of told-you-so with 40 catches for 716 yards and 11 touchdowns.

    That’s an average of 17.9 yards per catch and a touchdown every 3.6 times he caught a ball.

    If you don’t know what to look for in breaking down what makes a good wide receiver, the numbers probably make no sense considering Kupp can’t out-sprint some NFL linebackers in a straight-line 100-yard dash.

    If you do know what to key on – the elite numbers Cooper posted at the combine in the three-cone and short shuttle drills, his footwork at the line of scrimmage, the precise route-running, the grasp of his assignment and the nuances of whatever coverage he’s working against, and his elite pass-catching ability – it makes all the sense in the world why he’s able to produce record-breaking numbers against whoever he lines up against.

    “His above-the-neck approach, in terms of the way that he sees the game, it’s almost through the quarterback’s perspective,” McVay said. “He understands that, he understands route distribution.

    “Then, I think he’s wired the right way. You can see he’s always got a plan at the line of scrimmage with how he’s going to work versus different coverages and where the holes are in that coverage, and he’s got great hands.

    “I think you see a guy that understands the game. You watch him play, you see he’s got those pre-snap plans that, a lot of times, you don’t see. He is one of the more polished college receivers that I’ve evaluated coming out in a while, and that’s why you feel good about him. We’re excited to see how when we get him in that building, and then he’s able to go compete with our players how that translates.”

    The above-the-head aspect is a survival kit Kupp began packing as soon as he figured out he wasn’t able to blow past defenders or physically fight them off to create separation.

    “Early on when I wasn’t faster than guys, I wasn’t stronger than guys, I had to have something and that’s what I had – I had creativity in my route-running, knowing how to set guys up and get open,” he said. “And that’s something that I saw that my body may not be where it needs to be but I can still create a ton of separation by understanding how routes are run and understanding coverages.”

    And even as a wispy high school freshman with no business of actually believing he’d one day play college football – let alone in the NFL – Kupp was laying the groundwork for the possibility.

    “I was 5-4, 119 pounds and I had two-pound ankle weights on both ankles,” he said. “And I believed whole-heartedly that I was going to see this day, that I was going to play in the league and perform at a high level. Had to go through a lot of coaches telling me I needed to change my goals for myself. But that’s the way I set my goals, I set my goals laughably high and I want to pursue those things and my work ethic (paid off)”

    As the years progressed, 5-4 and 119 turned into 6-2, 204, and little speed turned into good enough speed. In the meantime, the son and grandson of two former NFL players had established a level of work ethic, preparation and polish that, when combined with his emerging physical traits, allowed him to produce at a high level no matter the competition.

    “I had to work for everything I got and I learned that at an early age and it was really a blessing in disguise,” he said. “Because I had those traits, I knew what it took to be great and when my body stared to catch up that stuff stuck with me and really created me into the player I have been.”

    Granted, had Kupp thrown down a 4.3 40 time to back up all those gaudy stats we’d be talking right now about a top 10 draft pick. He was available to the Rams in the third round because he isn’t an explosive athlete who can take the top off a defense.

    But that doesn’t mean he can’t excel playing a role that suits his physical profile and enhances his nuanced understanding of how to play wide receiver.

    “I think he’s shown that he can win on routes from width as well,” McVay said, “I don’t want to exclusively say that he is a slot, but once some of those traits and characteristics, in terms of the ability to recognize coverage, be able to recognize if I’ve got an option route, working one way or the other. I think those are some of his best assets and qualities. He’s a football player and we’ll move guys around.”

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    jrry32 wrote:

    The draft isn’t about whether they took a guy exactly where you foresaw him going. The draft is about whether they took an effective player who fits their system. Everett reminds people of Jordan Reed. If Everett ends up being Jordan Reed, how is this a bad pick?

    They valued character and football ability over SPARQ scores.

    I wanted Lamp but I heard that he has some chronic issues with his wrists. But I doubt it was that big of a deal. Regardless, I’m happy with what we did. We drafted a lot of football players.

    Kupp
    Reynolds
    Smart
    Rogers
    Price

    All stand out as highly productive and accomplished football players. Everett is more of an athlete, but he has produced and shown football ability. He plays just like Reed. I can see why McVay values him and believes he can bring that out of him. Everett catches the ball well, is an absolute pain in the ass to tackle, and is a great athlete for his size.

    It doesn’t seem like the Rams like this OL class. JMO. My guess is that Kromer is going to move one of these three: Wichmann, Donnal, or Brown. Keep in mind that Groy was a guard before Kromer converted him. Kromer runs an inside-zone scheme. It’s basically a hybrid scheme, but it’ll resemble power more than zone. He wants a center who fits that. The outside-zone scheme is what the Shanahans are known for running and what we mainly ran last year. It’ll simplify things for both Gurley and our OLs, but it still will give Gurley some options if he wants to be creative.

    Kupp was my #1 WR on Day 2. Reynolds was my #1 WR on Day 3. The Rams got both.

    Josh Reynolds? That’s an A+ pick. We have a WR corp filled with unknowns. Reynolds adds the deep threat element that we arguably lacked. But more than anything, Reynolds gives us a skill-set that we simply don’t have right now. He’s a value pick where we got him. I would have taken him a round earlier without thinking twice. That kid produced in the SEC against big time competition. Aside from being skinny, he offers the entire package as a WR. He’s a kid who worked his ass off to earn what he has. He walked onto the team at A&M and became one of the SEC’s most productive WRs.

    I’m still shocked that Kupp is a Ram. Kupp is intelligent (37 on the Wonderlic). He’ll be ready to play Day 1. The big thing with Kupp is that he uses his hands extremely well and his footwork is very advanced for his age (both are very polished skills). He also does a nice job of varying his releases to keep DBs off guard. We all know the kid is quick, but he’s also very technically sound.

    Go to 0:58 in this video: http://draftbreakdown.com/video/marcus-peters-vs-eastern-washington-2014/

    It’s 4th and 2 with Budda Baker pressing him. Kupp is lined up outside as the Z WR. Baker, who was just drafted by the Cardinals with Pick #36, ran a 4.45 40. Kupp comes off the LOS with a little stutter, throws an inside shoulder fake, and then releases hard outside. He smacks Baker’s hands down when Baker tries to deliver a punch and runs right by him for the 27 yard TD. A top 40 pick with 4.45 speed tries to press Kupp on 4th and 2, and Kupp makes him look the fool.

    The only guy I’d have taken over Kupp is Corey Davis. But Kupp was right there with him. I really think he’s a special player. The traits that make Antonio Brown a special WR exist in Cooper Kupp’s game. That’s what always stood out to me. Brown was a 5’10” WR with a 4.57 40 and poor jump numbers. Yet, the guy is arguably the best WR in football. How? It is obvious when you watch him. He cuts on a dime, accelerates incredibly well, and has an understanding of his position that few guys do. He has the sort of understanding of how to play WR that made guys like Ike Bruce and Marvin Harrison elite. Brown doesn’t just know what he has to do. He knows what every other players on the field has to do. That includes the defender. He is able to accurately anticipate how the defender is going to react to what he does from down to down. It allows him to always keep the defender guessing. When the defender is guessing, he takes a split second longer to react. He begins to doubt what he’s seeing and plays it safe. That gives Brown enough separation to almost always be “open.”

    I see that same skill in Kupp’s game. He knows every trick in the book. He can execute every trick in the book. And he knows exactly how to conceal what he’s doing until the last possible second to keep the defender guessing. He constantly throws different techniques out to keep the defender from being able to anticipate what he’ll do next. He’s just on a different level in terms of skill and intelligence.

    I’ve seen some people say Kupp is essentially Spruce. Not, they’re very different players. It’s like claiming that Odell Beckham Jr. is essentially Doug Baldwin 2.0. Spruce might make this roster. He’s reliable. It’ll depend on his special teams value. But he’s not Kupp. He’s just not that talented (Kupp-level talented). He’s savvy, he’s tough, he’s physical, he’s reliable, and he plays hard. That might earn him a job.

    Basically, while Kupp’s top-end speed isn’t great, but he has great acceleration, quickness, and change of direction ability. In comparison, Spruce’s top-end speed is also lacking, but his acceleration, quickness, and change of direction ability range from average to bad. That all shows up on his game tape. Spruce lacks physical talent. He creates separation through savvy and physicality. It works for him. He will finish in traffic. He makes tough catches. But he tends to body the ball more and doesn’t attack it that well in the air. Spruce plays every down like it could be his last. That’s something to be commended. Spruce is a slot WR who will have to win working the middle. He won’t separate outside and won’t win in the air well enough for teams to accept that.

    Kupp is a different type of player. He lacks top-end speed, but as I stated, he has acceleration, quickness, and change of direction ability. He has the athleticism to separate consistently. He combines that athleticism with skill and savvy that is simply beyond what Spruce offers. In addition to that, he attacks the ball better than Spruce does, catches the ball in traffic better than Spruce does, and he runs after the catch better than Spruce does. Spruce is essentially Kupp if you strip away the things that make him special.

    I was surprised that New England didn’t grab him, but they couldn’t (barring a trade up). They traded their first for Brandin Cooks. They didn’t pick until 14 spots after we took Kupp. I think there’s a real chance that they would have taken him had they not traded their second round pick.

    I’ve been wrong many times before, and I’ll be wrong many times in the future, but I see Cooper Kupp as a guy who just won’t stay covered in the NFL. Whether he plays a Wes Welker slot role or outside, he’s going to be constantly open. He’s the type of kid that you feel comfortable throwing as many options as possible into the routes he runs because you know he’s going to be where he’s supposed to be. The more flexibility you give a guy like him, the better he’ll be able to create for you.

    Smart is a Wade Phillips player. Short, stout, and very disruptive. Plays with a high motor. Relentlessly attacks the ball. Good at getting into the backfield and disrupting. Great scheme fit and depth we sorely needed. I’m very happy with the pick.

    Price can really get after the passer. He’s one of the NCAA’s best pass rushers and most disruptive players. He has some limitations as a run defender because of his lack of length. He’ll hold his ground and stack his blocker (very strong with natural leverage), but he struggles getting off blocks. As a pass rusher, though, he’s very difficult to stop. He’s so low to the ground when he rushes that most OTs struggle to get a hand on him. He has tremendous burst off the LOS, is a very strong player who can play through contact, and is always looking to finish. Most OTs are tall. Price uses that against them like James Harrison and Elvis Dumervil does. He gets underneath them and powers through to get around the corner. I like him a lot. It’s possible that Ejuan could also slide inside and play as our SILB.

    Having said that it’s interesting. When VT played Pitt they could not block Price What did they do? They told Sam Rogers, “He’s all yours.” Rogers was able to neutralize him. Their OTs couldn’t block Price but Rogers could. And the man also delivered them play after play like this one:

    That game got me interested in Rogers. He’s versatile and a special teams demon. Tells us that McVay wants to run the ball out of power sets with Gurley. Rogers really impressed me against Pitt.

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    Rampage2K wrote

    Back from the draft party….A lot different from last years but still fun nonetheless!!! Talked to Dani K, Ron Brown, Vinnie B.

    Grits pointed out Vinny to me So I thought I’d pick his brain a bit about the draft and the atmosphere at Rams park these days.

    Said he liked the draft and that it was clear that McVay is going to try to fix this offense…it might take some time but it will be good soon… Loved the WR’s that we drafted and that the competition is going to be great to have with in that group… The Everett pick is all about finding his Jordan Reed type TE.

    Said that no offense to Jeff Fisher but night and day difference between Fisher and McVay and that the players are buying in (btw another long time Rams employee told me the same thing about how the players seem to “love him” already)

    Said the draft was clearly reflective of what McVay is trying to build…said it’s refreshing to hear and see a coach that knows exactly what he wants and conveys it so clearly and that he is going to build around smart high character guys. Said it may not happen this year, but this team will get it turned around with this staff.

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    Jake Eldrenkamp – OL – Washington

    Listed as guard but could go to center.

    6’5″
    297LBS

    ANALYSIS

    STRENGTHS Good athlete. Plays with good bend and has easy, smooth movement skills. Shows off good lateral agility and quickness off the snap. Built for zone scheme. Has the feet to get to difficult reach blocks and work hips into place to seal his block. Able to stick defensive tackles on his inside shoulder and run his feet to keep them there. Takes quality angles up to second level. Hands are big and strong helping him sustain his blocks. Capable long- or short-pull blocker. Plays with good balance in pass sets and stays mirrored to defender. Pass punch lands inside and once he gets extension he keeps arms locked out.

    WEAKNESSES Possesses relatively narrow frame and may have issues adding and maintaining desired mass for interior. Needs to play on the move. Struggles to generate quality push at the point of attack as base blocker. Hands can swing a little too wide in run game. Tends to lean and push rather than roll hips into his blocks. Will chase twisters too deep and run himself out of position to catch the looper.

    DRAFT PROJECTION Round 7-PFA

    BOTTOM LINE An athletic zone-scheme fit at guard or potentially center if he proves he can snap it. Eldrenkamp is technically sound in both the running and passing games and he’s got desired body control and balance that zone teams like. The biggest question for him will be whether or not he can carry more mass, but the tape looks like that of a backup or possibly eventual starter if he can find the right scheme fit.

    -Lance Zierlein

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/jake-eldrenkamp?id=2558713

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    An ag roster chart! Thanks ag.

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    Rams wrap up draft with more skill, less beef

    Joe Curley

    http://www.vcstar.com/story/sports/nfl/rams/2017/04/29/rams-wrap-up-draft-more-skill-less-beef/100947876/

    Often leaning back in their chairs, Sean McVay and Les Snead sat side by side in the Rams’ draft room at Cal Lutheran University.

    Over the course of three days, the Rams head coach and general manager carried out a plan they had hatched together over the past few months.

    When they emerged Saturday evening, it was with smiles on their faces.

    “I think the biggest take away from this weekend was, when you acquire the eight players that we did, we were able to stay in alignment with the board we had set up,” McVay said. “We feel like we were able to address a lot of those needs, but we also didn’t overreach for a need.”

    Their decisions in shaping an eight-player draft class spoke volumes of their opinions of the roster so early in McVay’s tenure.

    When the Rams selected Texas A&M receiver Josh Reynolds with Saturday’s first pick, the 10th pick of the fourth round, it completed a run of seven pass catchers — four receivers and three tight ends — in a nine-pick span dating back to last year’s fourth round.

    “You want to find as many playmakers that can create with the ball in their hands (as you can),” McVay said. “All these guys have great ball skills. … And, like you’ll hear me say over and over again, I don’t think we can have enough guys that make good things happen when the ball’s in their hands.”

    Conversely, the Rams surprised fans by not adding to an offensive line that struggled last fall, both in protecting franchise quarterback Jared Goff and in creating room for star running back Todd Gurley.

    Snead explained that, having consulted with offensive line coach Aaron Kromer, the Rams chose the young players they already have on their roster over the players available in the draft pool.

    “There are a lot of guys in our group that he wanted to work with and felt like they may be better than some of the rookies in this draft class,” Snead said.

    The Rams also gave new defensive coordinator Wade Phillips a pair of pass rushers to plug into his 3-4 system in Eastern Washington’s Samson Ebukam in the fourth round and Pittsburgh’s Ejuan Price in the seventh round, as well as Tulane defensive tackle Tanzel Smart in the sixth round.

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    Pittsburgh defensive lineman Ejuan Price (left) was taken by the Rams in the seven round Saturday. (Photo: ASSOCIATED PRESS FILE)
    “I think it’s a great day for all of these guys,” McVay said. “Their lives changed.”

    Reynolds, a long-striding deep threat, led the SEC with 1,039 yards receiving last fall.

    “I’m a playmaker,” Reynolds said. “I’m a winner and I’d love to help this team win. … We’re going to get this thing rolling.”

    Ebukam was a teammate of receiver Cooper Kupp, who the Rams drafted in the third round Saturday.

    “I thought to myself, ‘What are the chances I get picked by the same team?’ ” Ebukam said. “And it just happened and I was like, ‘Whoa, Eagles really do stick together.’ That’s awesome.”

    While Smart said that he was looking forward to learning from Rams star defensive tackle Aaron Donald, Price, who was injured for two full seasons at Pittsburgh, already has had that experience.

    “I’ll probably talk to him in a little bit,” said Price. “I’m sure we’ll link up and speak on it at one point.”

    Price, a sixth-year senior who missed two full seasons with back and pectoral muscle injuries, was Donald’s teammate at Pitt.

    “I’ve been seeing him around for years,” Price said. “We played on the same team for a bit and we were rivals in high school.”

    Six of the eight players the Rams drafted participated in the Senior Bowl in January.

    “It wasn’t intentional, but definitely utilized,” Snead said. “It is intentional because we do really scrutinize the Senior Bowl, because it means something.”

    That included Sam Rogers, who the Rams drafted in the fifth round. The Virgina Tech fullback was labeled “a lead-blocking machine” at the Senior Bowl by Pro Football Focus.

    “I can’t wait to block for Todd Gurley,” Rogers said.

    The second-team All-American also flashed versatile skills in Blacksburg, catching touchdown passes and even throwing a touchdown pass.

    “You saw Sam do a nice job contributing to the run and the pass game,” McVay said. “I think he’s a guy that when you get him out in space, he can fit people up and press them on angles.”

    “Those are kind of the some of the nuances that we’ll look for from that fullback spot.”

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    Rams ‘stick to the plan’ in draft and address variety of needs

    By Gary Klein

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-nfl-draft-20170429-story.html

    Stay in alignment. No surprises. Seamless.

    Those were a few terms and phrases Rams general manager Les Snead and coach Sean McVay used Saturday to describe the Rams’ process and results in the NFL draft.

    A day after they selected tight end Gerald Everett, receiver Cooper Kupp and safety John Johnson in the second and third rounds Saturday, the Rams added Texas A&M receiver Josh Reynolds and Eastern Washington linebacker Samson Ebukam in the fourth round, Tulane defensive lineman Tanzel Smart and Virginia Tech running back Sam Rogers in the sixth, and Pittsburgh linebacker Ejuan Price in the seventh.

    The four new players on offense and four on defense help the Rams address needs at receiver and tight end, and improved depth at linebacker and on the defensive line.

    “We feel like we were able to address a lot of those needs, but we also didn’t overreach for any,” McVay said after his first draft as a head coach. “It seemed like a lot of those guys that we had valued, we were able to get at the spot that we wanted.

    “And that was kind of the goal for the weekend and we felt like we accomplished that.”

    But for the second year in a row, the Rams did not select an offensive lineman.

    That might perplex Rams fans who last season watched running back Todd Gurley struggle to reach the line of scrimmage and quarterback Jared Goff unsuccessfully dodge pass-rushing onslaughts.

    The addition of free-agent left tackle Andrew Whitworth — a Pro Bowl selection with Cincinnati the last two seasons — new offensive-line coach Aaron Kromer’s assessment of players on the roster, and the lack of offensive-line depth in the draft caused the Rams to prioritize other needs, Snead said.

    The Rams also did not draft a cornerback. After assessing a secondary that includes recent signees Kayvon Webster and Nickell Robey-Coleman during last week’s minicamp, McVay said Saturday that “we feel good where we’re at.”

    The Rams, who did not have a first-round pick, traded back or forward three times during the final six rounds.

    “The biggest thing you take away from this weekend is that there were no surprises,’ McVay said. “Everything that happened, we were able to kind of stick to the plan and trust that if it wasn’t maybe Priority A, there was a Priority 1-A in place.”

    The Rams began the day by trading down five spots and selecting Reynolds. The 6-foot-3 wideout gives Goff a tall target and can make catches high in the air.

    “I’m versatile,” Reynolds said in teleconference with reporters. “My height was just a bonus, and really having long arms, just being long.”

    Ebukam was excited about joining a defense that will operate from coordinator Wade Phillips’ 3-4 scheme. He also is enthused about playing on the same pro team with Kupp, a teammate at Eastern Washington.

    “When he got picked by them I was like, ‘Yeah, that’s the perfect team,’” Ebukam said. “Then I thought to myself, ‘What are the chances I get picked by the same team?’ And it just happened and I was like, ‘Whoa, Eagles really do stick together.’ That’s awesome.”

    Smart joins a defensive-line position group that includes three-time Pro Bowl tackle Aaron Donald and two-time Pro Bowl edge rusher Robert Quinn.

    “I really want to learn a lot from Aaron Donald,” Smarts said. “I’m just glad I’m in that situation to play and learn from those guys.”

    Rogers grew up about two hours from Washington, D.C., so he is familiar with the productive offense McVay oversaw as coordinator for the Redskins.

    “They use versatile guys, guys that can do a lot of different things,” Rogers said, “and I feel like I fit that mold pretty well.’

    Price played defensive end at Pittsburgh, where he was teammates with Donald.

    Price overcame chest and back injuries that sidelined him for more than two seasons. He finished his career with 29½ sacks, tying him with Donald for fourth on the school’s all-time list.

    “I think naturally I’m a 3-4 outside linebacker, so I couldn’t have asked for a better fit,” Price said, adding, “I think I’ll fit right in with what I do. My specialty is penetration and pass rush so I think I can definitely be useful.”

    The Rams began to contact potential free agents immediately after the draft and will continue through Sunday. They will hold a rookie camp starting May 11.

    Snead, overseeing his sixth draft, credited McVay for bringing enthusiasm to the evaluation process, especially in the last four weeks leading up the draft.

    “That’s where chemistry is built,” Snead said. “That’s where you get to know someone. That’s where you get to really, really bond a lot better than badminton at the company picnic.”

    Etc.

    UCLA defensive back Ishmael Adams and USC running back Justin Davis were among 11 undrafted players who agreed to terms for free-agent contracts with the Rams.

    Others: Arkansas defensive back Jared Collins, Colorado linebacker Kevin Davis, Washington offensive lineman Jake Eldrenkamp, New Mexico State offensive lineman Anthony McMeans, Oregon tight end Johnny Mundt, Dartmouth linebacker Folarin Orimolade, Missouri defensive back Aarion Penton, Ohio defensive tackle Casey Sayles and North Carolina defensive back Dravious Wright.

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    2017 Post-Draft Press Conference

    Get instant reactions on the Rams 2017 draft class from general manager Les Snead and head coach Sean McVay

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    Justin Davis/RB/USC

    JUSTIN DAVIS
    RB
    USC PAC-12

    6’1″
    208LBS

    OVERVIEW

    It was supposed to be Davis’ big year in 2016, and it started out that way until a high ankle sprain in the midst of what would have been his third straight 100-yard game caused him to miss three games. His statistics turned out to be ordinary because of the injury (564 rushing yards, two TD) and the rising star of Ronald Jones II. Davis graduated from high school a semester early so he could contribute as a true freshman (361 rushing yards, 6 TD) before an ankle injury ended his season. He contributed as a reserve in 2014 (595 yards, four TD rushing; 13-92, 2 TD receiving) and then became an honorable mention All-Pac-12 pick as a junior by starting the final eight games (902 yards, seven TD rushing; 18-189 receiving).

    ANALYSIS

    STRENGTHS Former high school sprinter and long-jumper with desired speed and athleticism at the position. Will hide behind blockers while he probes for points of entry along the line of scrimmage. Benefits from nimble feet. Quick to gather and cut downhill as zone runner and has the agility to stop on a dime and shake traffic in the backfield to keep runs moving. Good open field vision and elusiveness. Consistent and reliable.

    WEAKNESSES Needs more weight to be an early-down running back. Allows back-side tacklers to run him down. Will need to play with more consistent suddenness on the next level. Lacks authority as a runner. Gives into tackle rather than imposing his will and making a statement. Missing tackle-breaking power in hips. Ball security issues with three fumbles in 109 carries this year. Below average third down option as blocker and pass catcher.

    DRAFT PROJECTION PFA

    SOURCES TELL US “I put a fifth-round grade on him. They didn’t ask much of him as a pass-catcher in that offense but I think he can do it. He can play heavier than he is right now so he carries third running back value. He also returned kicks last year so that helps him too.” – NFC West regional scout

    BOTTOM LINE Solid college running back who lacks the physicality to be a consistent interior runner and the blocking ability teams expect from their third down backs. Davis has decent vision and elusiveness once he gets up to the second level, but he lacks early creativity and typically gets what is blocked for him on the first level. He could get drafted on the third day but appears to be a garden-variety, replaceable runner.

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