bnw wrote:

Austin is 5th gear and Schotty can only drive a 3-speed. Martz would have made Austin a household name by now.

I tend to agree with this.

Though, the ball that bounced of Tavon’s hands
for the big INT is a reflection of a problem with Tavon.
He does not seem to have good hands.
I do not think he’s very good at catching ‘bullets’ —
I think Warner would be a good QB to throw to Tavon.

I think they should loft the ball to him as often as
they can. Which means throwing long at times. I dont
think they throw to him on deep patterns enough.

He seems to be a little better at punt returns lately.
He’s making decisions quicker. I think we’ll see
some great returns in the future. And some awful-muffs.
Sigh.

I am not sure i would trade up to 8 for Tavon,
if i could go back in time and be in charge.

I think Stedman can be a 70 catch guy
with the right QB. I’d say he has the best
hands on the team. Maybe the best hands
of any WR since…?

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• This reply was modified 11 years, 4 months ago by wv.

canadaram wrote:

BTW, stopping a run away brawl is pretty difficult for one or two guys to do. From what I’ve seen of the video neither Long nor Laurinaitis escalated the brawl. It looked like both were in the middle trying to hold back some people. Not sure what other people are seeing, or expected of them.

Well, i think Laurinaitis had a lot of
fight breakups but
they were all mainly ten yards past
the sideline.

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zn wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>wv wrote:</div>
Some interesting stuff in there.

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Such as?

(See this is me fostering conversation.)

Well, i think he’s in complete denial about which team
was playing dirty on Sunday.

“…(On if he would be surprised if Hayes was fined)
“Yes. I would be surprised. Now I can see what the officials are seeing with respect to Alec (Ogletree) and the late hit out of bounds, but when you look at it really close (WR) Odell (Beckham Jr.) has his face mask and he’s pulling him out of bounds, so it’s hard for him to let up. There were some other things that happened in there that were very disappointing, but I’m confident that the league will handle it. In addition to the discipline of their kicker. People get ejected for kicking people in the game and he was penalized, but there’s some sentiment, I thought he should have been ejected as well. If you buy into all the our ‘friskiness’ or all this stuff that they referred to, I think it would be good if they looked themselves in the mirror. They played really good and they played hard and they played physical. They beat us physically in a number of instances, but I don’t think we had a lot to do with those things on the sideline other than an attempt to break things up”

Thot this was funny. From
a Gordon article:
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http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/gordon-mistakes-define-the-rams-under-fisher/article_6ae00086-d60d-5bc7-a5f6-5a21ab7a86a6.html

“…how bad was the Rams’ secondary in this game? New York Giants running back Andre Williams captured its performance with this comment to reporters afterward:

‘Sometimes the defensive backs look like they are there, but they’re not really there.’

Bingo!….”
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Good, Bad, Ugly.

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Alyoshamucci

So, I have a moment to talk about the last couple games, and that’s about it. I know there are many who read these and get a lot out of them, so I’ll say this up front,and be moving on . .

“The team this year has no starting QB, and any team that does not have a starting QB has no real shot. Fisher gets 5 years from me. Continuity is the only thing that can save us, the WORST franchise besides the Raiders.”

We’ve seen how well we can play, and had a few games gone a little different we’d be in the hunt, even with backup QBs.

The Good

1) Gaines is okay (not injured). He has done a better job than I could have ever imagined, and he is playing the “straight man” opposite Jenkins. Also, he doesn’t seem to have any injury or mental awareness issues. Tru may be expendable, which means someone will pay handsomely for him and we’ll net a compensatory pick.

2) Aaron Donald should be in the pro bowl. What a great pick.

3) Robinson seems to be getting more comfortable, and showing off some of the freakish athleticism that we expect.

4) Kenny Britt has earned a paycheck from us. His aggression and leadership are priceless, and beyond that he makes tough catches.

5) Our team has an attitude. I like that.

6) Austin is becoming more of a factor. At least he hasn’t maxed out his usefulness.

7) mason’s TD was fierce. Facemasked and STILL made the pylon.

The bad

8) I did not like the let-down against the Giants. The Cards was depressing too, though we were inches away from that one (Jenks pick, Bailey’s drop, ouch). I REALLY did not like Shaun Hill’s performance in either game. That changes my draft, because apparently we need a better backup than we have.

9) Our interior line is not acceptable.

10) There was a lack of imagination on defense against the Giants, and the inability to cover the most explosive player in the NFL over the last two weeks confuses me. Why didn’t we adjust the coverage?

11) No defensive line sacks. Its like they can hear it when they are being praised and play at half speed.

12) Stedman has to know he’s hot and be ready, even for a questionably thrown pass.

13) How many of Sims’ penalties for roughing were real? This is a question. I remember three out of the 5 mentioned and they were barely calls or bad calls.

14) The commentators need to stay off the “moving to LA” thing for one . . darn . . game.

15) Throw the ball to Stedman more.

The Ugly

16) Frustrated fans. I don’t get it. We like the worst team in the NFL, we’re accountable for making the best of it, just like anything else in our lives.

Draft. So the play of Hill the past few games means we cant make the playoffs with him even if he is surrounded by talent. That changes my draft board.

1) Trade down and pick up a 4th . . draft Scherff at 15 to play OG. (There is a chance I take Arik Armstead here if Fish okays his personality)
2-8) Shane Carden
3) Gallek OC BC
4) Stephon Anthony MLB/OLB Clemson
5) Zegarrette Davis DE Kentucky Freak at 6-6 275 plays inside and out, but on Kentucky in a great class where he’ll be overshadowed.
6) Jeff Prater WR Northwestern 6-5 222 USC transfer with hands and physical ability
7) Gabe Wright DT Auburn

UDFA Uzomah TE Auburn 6-5 268.
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• This reply was modified 11 years, 4 months ago by wv.

It would be funny (ha ha)
if the Rams drafted
Kevin White
of
W
V
U
🙂
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• This reply was modified 11 years, 4 months ago by wv.

zn wrote:

wv wrote:
Yeah, except i blame Fisher for the mule kick
and you want to make injured-mule excuses.

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Wait, what? Hunh? I’ve always said you’re SUPPOSED TO injure mules.

You don’t listen.

PS — this is as good a thread as any to say this —
I dont like O’dell Beckham. I think he’s a cocky
young celebrator.

He’s no Larry Fitzgerald.

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zn wrote:

wv wrote:
If i was ta boil the entire game
down to one play, i think it might be
the Josh Brown mule-kick
of Cody Davis.

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Yeah the game was full of unusual special teams plays.

Yeah, except i blame Fisher for the mule kick
and you want to make injured-mule excuses.

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Agamemnon wrote:

Washington OLB Shaq Thompson, 6-2, 231, Jr., 4.56: Boasting terrific athleticism, instincts and awareness, Thompson has proven a standout wherever he’s played for the Huskies, earning him the Paul Hornung Award as the nation’s most versatile player. While perhaps not as stout as preferred, Thompson’s fluidity, reliable open-field tackling and big-play moxie could earn him a hybrid linebacker/safety role.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/big-board

Maybe a Vet free-agent LB ?

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zn wrote:

wv wrote:
Aeneas said anytime a team comes in and
sticks to the RUN, they are able to
handle the Rams D.

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Either way, last game, if Rams don’t make mistakes on special teams and in coverage–which led directly to 17 points–they beat the Giants 27-20. That’s with all the aforementioned problems in the post-loss multiplication of problems people see: run D, chippiness and discipline, below par OL play, etc.

I dont think we can say the “rams would have won 27-20” if
we subtract the mistakes. We have no idea
what the road-team-with-a-losing-record
would have done if the situations
had been altered.

At any rate, Aeneas seems to think
a LB is needed and Brockers needs to be
evaluated. He’s not crazy about the Rams
Run-D.

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Agamemnon wrote:

40-plus years as a football fan,
and I’d never seen that before.

Too bad the game was essentially already over
at that point.

I think Bates tried that during, what, the Charger
game? But he stepped on somebody, i think.

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JackPMiller wrote:

I have been thinking the same thing, have we improved. Seattle needs to win on Sunday for a bye. With Fisher, our record has gotten worse, 7-8-1, 7-9, to 6-10(maybe)? That is 20 wins in 3 years. No Head Coach would last that long. I know Fisher and company will be back, but if he does not turn this around quickly, Fisher and his staff will be gone. Nextyear he knows this team has to win at least 10 games, no excuses.

How much of a break do we give Snisher
since they lost their starting QB,
two years in a row?

Ah well. Snisher will get another
year. Let us hope they do not
give us a fourth year of
inconsistent-mediocrity.
I do not want to be sitting here
next year typing
“wait till year FIVE…”

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Well, i share the threads
emotions of disgust and loathing 🙂

I got nuthin analytical to say yet.
I cant even ‘go there’. That
was…awful.

The interior of an OLine is
the most critical link
for an offense. Ya just cant
play offense with a soft middle.

And the defense,
couldnt handle a good vet QB
and a great WR.

Wouldnt surprise me if the Rams
lost by 24 to Seattle, and
it wouldnt surprise me if
they won by 10.

There is something very wrong
with this team, but i am hoping
that there is an upward trajectory
going on here and its just hard to
see.

Three years of mediocrity.
Year Four — I just hope
they totally tank or they
win 12 games. I do NOT wanna
see another mediocre 7 win type season.
Fisher had a bunch of 8 win seasons in Tennessee
and then they broke thru. So perhaps
there is hope in the dark.

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21Dog wrote:

Agamemnon wrote: I blame Finnegan. It all started him.

Finnegan would have been right at home in today’s mess.

What happened on the Odell 80 yarder? I saw it,
but I dunno what the DB’s were doing. They
just sorta went “Olay” and let him run
right down the middle by himself.

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6 and 9, staring at 6 and 10.

Just an awful performance from start
to finish.

The D had no answer for Rueben Randle or OB.
Eli just picked them apart,
as per usual. (in four games 12 TDs, 1 INT)

This D can be sensational, but it can also
be “unsound”. I dont know what other word to use.
It can be real flashy, but I’m not sure it
can really be “reliable” over the long haul.

The O obviously needs better players at QB
G and Center.

For me, this was Fisher’s worse loss
in his three years. This was bad.
Year three, at home, against a 5 win team,
with a chance to finish .500 — to be that
undisciplined. To get picked apart like that.
Geez. Bad, bad loss. Itz not the end of the world,
but THAT was the epitome of “Bad bad Loss.”
I shall…sit with it. And then I will
eat hummus and deep-fried pickles.

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