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  • in reply to: Have the Rams improved in Fisher's tenure? #14824
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    Sure, they’ve improved slightly every year
    despite the static record.

    They used to have lots of holes.
    Now we are down to two —
    interior of the Oline,
    and QB.

    IF, Snisher can solve those
    two issues, they should get
    to the ten-win range next year.
    (barring injuries, etc)

    That will ‘still’ leave my own
    major question unanswered. I
    know Fisher can turn them into “winners”.
    I know he can get them into the playoffs.

    But can he go all the way and win a Ring?
    I have my doubts.
    Granted, its a tough job.

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    in reply to: from the leaked Patriots scouting report on Manziel #14821
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    PA Ram wrote:
    I always felt he would be boom or bust.

    It’s looking like bust.

    I thought of him as either bust or complete hilarious meltdown.

    So far he is holding at bust, but it’s not over yet.

    I’d rather have Tebow.

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    in reply to: Hill wants to close out season on a high note #14767
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    Blanda was from Pennsylvania. I can understand that you’d want a Pennsylvania guy behind center for the team
    but since he’s passed away
    I believe the better choice is Joe “Wille” Namath. He’s been there before. And he’s from Pennsylvania.

    And being from Pennsylvania is the important thing anyway.

    But Blanda is an Elite dead-qb.
    You never pass on an
    enite QB.

    Btw, do you Realize
    that the Super Bowl this year is going to be
    The Patriots vs The Seahawks —

    Does it get any worse than that?

    How shall we handle that?

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    in reply to: Hill wants to close out season on a high note #14765
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    I don’t think, in terms of a back-up QB, you can do much better than Shaun Hill.

    I hope they can sign him.

    I think I’d like them to go after
    George Blanda.

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    in reply to: Seahawk newz: Injuries, R.Wilson… #14757
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    I’ve read Wilson’s rushing stats numerous times
    but they always startle me. One tends to think of
    M.Vick as a great runner and Randall Cuningham, etc —
    But little Russell Wilson is right there with them.

    I wonder how fast he actually is, btw?
    (edit: according to the article below
    he ran a 4.55 at the combine)

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    http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/40740272

    …see link…Wilson had a quiet combine. He ran a 4.55-second forty. He measured 5-foot-11. He threw spirals in shorts. Wilson was fast, but the draft had a designated “fast” quarterback in Tannehill. (Griffin was fast too, of course, but the heartthrobs were their own category.) Wilson was short and plucky, but the draft had a designated “short/plucky” quarterback in Kellen Moore. Wilson played minor-league baseball and bounced between college programs, but the draft already had a designated knock-around prospect in Brandon Weeden. Wilson did not fit the archetypes. I don’t even remember Wilson’s press conference; unlike Luck and Griffin’s showstoppers, it took place during the chaos when two or three prospects spoke simultaneously on different rostrums. Wilson was low priority.

    We learned later that he was blowing away the private interviews, prompting arguments in scouting departments about whether he would last into the middle rounds. Wilson’s merits were a closely guarded secret for many teams as they slid him up their draft boards.

    Wilson remained a trade secret during a long winter and spring of coronation festivities for the heartthrobs. Televised pro-day workouts showcased Luck and Griffin as they completed passes in empty practice facilities, wearing compression shirts and gym shorts. Scouting services and blogs breathlessly reported their completion rates, as if lobbing a fade to an uncovered Kendall Wright in a Waco gym was a feat worthy of statistical analysis. Tannehill got his chance to demonstrate his health and athleticism in late March, while NFL teams paired off with the available free agents: Manning to the Broncos, Matt Flynn to the Seahawks, nobody with a better option to the Dolphins.

    Wilson’s workout at Wisconsin was not televised. Russ Lande, one of the best draftniks in the business, filed a report for Sporting News. Lande wrote that Wilson was “impressive,” but he did not get to Wilson until the eighth paragraph of a 10-paragraph article, after center Peter Konz, guard Kevin Zeitler and receiver Nick Toon.

    That sort of thing just did not happen to Luck or Griffin.

    Lande praised Wilson’s arm, and he confirmed what the kids said at the Senior Bowl and the coaches whispered behind closed doors at the combine. “A source who attended the workout said Wisconsin coaches considered Wilson the best leader to come through the program in many years.”

    If only leadership made him three inches taller.

    * * *

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    wv wrote:
    The answer is obvious — Sign Geno Smith. Draft Kevin White.
    Then just start the WVU QB and the three WVU WRs.

    Actually, Geno Smith is one that I think could be a good choice. Two others I like would be Mike Glennon and EJ Manuel. All three of these would have to be obtained in a trade. But all three of them would be, IMO, a significant upgrade to Hill or Davis.

    Of the free agents, Mark Sanchez, Brian Hoyer, Ryan Mallett, Christian Ponder, and Blaine Gabbert are names that interest me. It just depends on what Fisher and Shotty thinks.

    Well, my least favorites on that list are Sanchez and Gabbert.

    My main wish is that they find a couple of Healthy Studs
    for the OLine.
    For the love of God, can we see a topnotch OLine again
    in my lifetime ?

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    in reply to: Can the Rams beat Seattle? #14734
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    Seattle’s D is on a franchise record-setting pace
    the last 5 games or so. They’ve allowed, 3, 3, 14, 7 and 6 points.

    They’ve played two teams twice in that time: SF and Ariz.
    (Ranked 23rd and 28th on offense)
    Philly ranked no.5 on offense.

    Rams rank 25 on offense, fwiw.

    ————————————————————-
    12 Sun, Nov 23 Arizona 19-3 W
    13 Thu, Nov 27 @ San Francisco 19-3 W
    14 Sun, Dec 07 @ Philadelphia 24-14 W
    15 Sun, Dec 14 San Francisco 17-7 W
    16 Sun, Dec 21 @ Arizona 35-6 W

    17 Sun, Dec 28 St. Louis 4:25 PM ET
    ——————

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    Looking at the names on the list, there is no good option this year.

    Just get a fairly solid guy and build the offensive line.

    To me that’s the thing to do this year–don’t trade for a Cutler and give him huge money–invest in a free agent guard or center–then draft a good one and another one.

    Try to resign Hill and Bradford at a fair price–even Davis and go with that three-headed monster behind a better line.

    I do want them drafting a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round.

    But this is not a QB year for them. Their best hope is that Bradford suddenly becomes Iron Man and can finally claim the throne and be steady. The other options all stink.

    Build the O-line.

    The answer is obvious — Sign Geno Smith. Draft Kevin White.
    Then just start the WVU QB and the three WVU WRs.

    And try and get PacMan Jones
    while they are at it.

    Sky’s the limit.

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    in reply to: Can the Rams beat Seattle? #14729
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    Rams offensive line has to play well – offensively. If Rams can move the ball, score some points, not turn the ball over then the whole game won’t be on the defense to win or lose it.

    Yeah, its about the Oline.

    And after the last two weeks
    I aint real optimisitc.

    Rams 9
    Seahawks 24

    One pick 6,
    and one Wells-snap over Hill’s head,
    and one Tre Mason fumble.

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    in reply to: reporters & etc. preview the SEATTLE game #14728
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    “He knows how to pull it in the zone read at the right time,” Laurinaitis said. “He’ll just hand it to Marshawn over and over, and it seems like right at the right moment — where a team’s maybe within one score — he’ll decide to pull it and it’s a 65-yard run. And you’re like, ‘Goodness.’”

    Laurinaitiis is the only middle linebacker
    ive ever heard say things like
    “goodness.”

    I dont recall Jack Lambert or
    Ray Lewis or Dick Butkis
    using such language.

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    in reply to: game reactions from around the net #14711
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    jrry32

    Schotty frustrates me at times but I don’t know of many fan-bases that like their OC. I will say that watching this team week after week, I don’t think Schotty is the problem. Tavon’s usage frustrates me but I also don’t think Tavon is “there” yet as a WR. I would like to see him used more on deep routes but that’s digressing from my point. The guy called a great game today [Giants game] and the offense has overachieved this year with the QB play and IOL play we have. I’d keep Schotty. The guy deserves a full year with a starting caliber QB.

    I think arguably that our offense has overachieved. Our QB play this year has been a major issue and it’s hard for an OC to look good when his QB misses a lot of plays. I don’t think there are a lot of OCs out there that could do much with Hill and Davis at QB. To add onto the QB woes, we lost our #1 WR and our starting LT early in the season. Davin Joseph and Scott Wells have been bad. We’re not winning the LOS because Joseph and Wells severely limit what we can do. They have arguably been the worst players at their positions this year. And our offense has to work to compensate for the liabilities they are in the middle of the OL. Our C and RG can’t be relied upon in the run game and we have to design blocking schemes to cover for their issues. It seems like a lot of our success running it comes outside the tackles or on misdirection such as counters and traps. I don’t notice a lot of success running the ball inside the tackles to the front-side of the play. And we’re breaking in a rookie LT. Actually both our RT and LT have had consistency issues because Joe Barksdale has struggled the second half of the year. And our WR/TE corp is much better this year but still not the best in this league.

    I’m not saying the guy needs to have the perfect offense…but is it too much to ask for Schotty to have an offense with average talent before we judge him? So…lets fix our interior and lets stabilize the QB situation.

    I’m not concerned about the defense. They’ll be fine. They’re still in their first year in a new scheme with a lot of young players. I think we’re pretty set aside from depth and upgrading on adequate starters. You don’t need an All Pro at every position and you can’t afford an All Pro at every position. Defensively, next year, we could be top 5.

    Today [Giants game] sucked but even the 2000 Ravens gave up 36 points to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Our defense had a bad day. Beckham’s two TDs came off blown coverages. I lay that at the feet of the players. Trumaine playing like he was hung over certainly helped them with that.

    On the long Beckham TD. Mark Barron wasn’t supposed to be on an island. That’s the blown coverage. You can see it if you watch the replay. Trumaine seems shocked that Joyner is doubling his guy. And I would be too because based on my knowledge of our scheme and that coverage, Joyner should have been carrying Beckham Jr. up the field in trail position with Barron over the top. He hung Barron out to dry. But that’s the issue with rookies. They make mental errors. And it’s probably why Joyner hasn’t been playing as much lately…he’s still adjusting to the scheme.

    Yeah, i tend to agree with a lot of that.

    This little board is a bit different than most,
    in that i think there’s a consensus on this board
    that BS is Not part of the problem. He’s had to deal
    with the Bradford injuries the Jake Long gimpiness
    the young WRs, injuries on the Oline, etc. Its hard
    to tell what he would do with a talented, healthy, experienced,
    offense.

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    yup. quite frankly the way he snapped his ligament worries me more. and now with a second tear i am positive the outcomes go down. not by much but they do go down.

    i think he’s done personally. although i understand the reasons for keeping him.

    Well I’m wondering if he will look a bit like
    Trent Green looked when he came back from his surgery.
    Ya know. He could throw but there was definitely some
    gimpy-ness and a loss of speed and agility. Green had
    a different kind of surgery i guess, but still this is a
    second surgery for Sam.

    I know one thing — every single time Sam goes down
    we are gonna be holding our collective breath.

    Lets hope itz a great Comeback Story.
    Who knows, i might turn out that way.

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    in reply to: Offensive Line #14700
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    Well I wonder if Roger Saffold will be able to
    lift and train in the offseason if he’s
    going to have surgery.

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    in reply to: Russell Wilson #14699
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    And sack #s don’t count as much btw if you consider sack percentage. So while Seattle is 32nd in passing attempts, they’re also 28th in sack percentage… which is a bad combo.

    Well the fact that RW has had to deal with a lot of sack-pressure
    and still only has six INTs, may indicate
    that he handles/manages pressure a lot better
    than most QBs.

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    in reply to: Russell Wilson #14695
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    Seattle Defense
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/sort/totalPointsPerGame/position/defense

    No.1 in the NFL in fewest points per game: 16.5
    (Rams are 14th)

    No.1 in the NFL in yards given up per game: 268.6
    (Rams are 18th)

    No.1 in the NFL in passing yards given up per game: 184
    (Rams are 19th)

    No.3 in the NFL in rushing yards given up per game: 84.1
    (Rams are 14th)

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    Really though, I wouldn’t be that surprised if Fisher started Jones. I am reading Fisher’s mind……

    I cant imagine that. I think Jones would get kilt.
    Better to start the one-armed Wells.

    I think BS should keep
    everyone in to pass-block
    and just have Hill throw the ball
    up to Britt now and then.

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    • This reply was modified 11 years, 4 months ago by Avatar photowv.
    in reply to: Merry Christmas – Happy New Year – etc. etc. #14685
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    Merry Christmas everyone!

    Do you people know the amount of hours I spend with you helpless Rams addicts every year?

    I’ve lost track. But it’s time well spent. :)

    r

    So, you are a dog person,
    i take it.

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    in reply to: RX for next year #14684
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    I’m not sure that I remember a Rams player who has provided me with such a roller coaster of emotions. Capable of a pick six one moment, and then giving up an 80 yard TD The next. Even when he’s not making INTs he can be pretty sticky in coverage, then he gets caught looking into the backfield, or bites on a double move. Frustrating. I wonder what kind of Patriot he’d be.

    Yeah, maybe Dre Bly was a little like that.

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    in reply to: Offensive Line #14683
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    even if it is barksdale i think the rams would be best served by re-signing him. he knows the offense. then they can get a guy like cameron erving who could either play inside or go outside if barksdale continues struggling with barksdale moving inside to guard. now i’m not sure if he can play guard but i would think that he could.

    the line needs some continuity rather than just throwing a bunch of new players at it.

    I would throw new players at it.
    Healthy players 🙂

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    “.. linebacker C.J. Mosley, the only other rookie defender to make the Pro Bowl. Dallas offensive lineman Zack Martin is the third and final rookie to earn the honor. Coincidentally, those are the three players the Rams had the most interest in with the pick they ultimately used on Donald.”

    I guess that sez something
    about Snead.

    Course we dont know how many
    ‘busts’ he had ranked highly.

    It would be nice if someone
    broke into rams park and stole
    the last three draft boards
    soze we could all look at them.

    I wonder if the season would have gone
    differently if the rams had gotten
    Z. Martin last year along with the
    players they drafted?
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    • This reply was modified 11 years, 4 months ago by Avatar photowv.
    in reply to: Merry Christmas – Happy New Year – etc. etc. #14658
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    Happy Feast of the Circumcison,
    Happy Bodhi Day,
    Happy Krampusnacht.
    Happy Dies Natalis Solis Invicti,
    Happy Newtonmas.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multinational_festivals_and_holidays

    · Feast of the Circumcision: 1 January* Saint Basil’s Day: 1 January – In Greece, traditionally he is the Father Christmas figure.

    Buddhism
    · Bodhi Day: 8 December – Day of Enlightenment, celebrating the day that the historical Buddha (Shakyamuni or Siddhartha Gautama) experienced enlightenment (also known as Bodhi).

    Christianity
    · Advent: fourth Sunday preceding 25 December
    · Krampusnacht: 5 December – The Feast of St. Nicholas is celebrated in parts of Europe on 6 December. In Alpine countries, Saint Nicholas has a devilish companion named Krampus who punishes the bad children the night before.
    · Saint Nicholas’ Day: 6 December
    · Christmas Day: 25 December – one of the most celebrated holidays around the world, increasingly celebrated by Christians and non-Christians alike.
    · Saint Stephen’s Day: 26 December
    · Holy Innocents’ Day: 28 December
    · Saint Sylvester’s Day: 31 December

    Fictional or parody
    · Feast of Winter Veil: 15 December–2 January – A holiday in World of Warcraft. This holiday is based on Christmas. Cities are decorated with lights and a tree with presents. Special quests, items and snowballs are available to players during this time. The character of “Greatfather Winter”, who is modeled after Santa Claus, appears.[12][13]

    · Feast of Alvis: in the TV series Sealab 2021.[14] “Believer, you have forgotten the true meaning of Alvis Day. Neither is it ham, nor pomp. Nay, the true meaning of Alvis day is drinking. Drinking and revenge.”–Alvis[15]

    · Hogswatch: a holiday celebrated on the fictional world of Discworld. It is very similar to the Christian celebration of Christmas.

    · Festivus: 23 December – a parody holiday created by Daniel O’Keefe and made popular by Seinfeld as an alternative to Christmas.

    · Decemberween: 25 December – a parody of Christmas that features gift-giving, carol-singing and decorated trees. The fact that it takes place on December 25, the same day as Christmas, has been presented as just a coincidence, and it has been stated that Decemberween traditionally takes place “55 days after Halloween”. The holiday has been featured in the Homestar Runner series.

    Hinduism
    · Pancha Ganapati: 21–25 December – modern five-day festival in honor of Lord Ganesha, celebrated by Hindus in USA.

    Historical
    · Malkh: 25 December
    · Mōdraniht: or Mothers’ Night, the Saxon winter solstice festival.
    · Saturnalia: the Roman winter solstice festival
    · Dies Natalis Solis Invicti (Day of the birth of the Unconquered Sun): 25 December – late Roman Empire

    Judaism
    · Hanukkah: Ḥănukkāh, usually spelled חנוכה, pronounced [χanuˈka] in Modern Hebrew; a transliteration also romanized as Chanukah or Chanukkah), also known as the Festival of Lights, Feast of Dedication, is an eight-day Jewish holiday commemorating the re-dedication of the Holy Temple (the Second Temple) in Jerusalem at the time of the Maccabean Revolt against the Seleucid Empire of the 2nd century BC. Hanukkah is observed for eight nights and days, starting on the 25th day of Kislev according to the Hebrew calendar, which may occur at any time from late November to late December in the Gregorian calendar.

    Paganism
    · Yule: Pagan winter festival that was celebrated by the historical Germanic people from late December to early January.

    · Yalda: 21 December – The turning point, Winter Solstice. As the longest night of the year and the beginning of the lengthening of days, Shabe Yaldā or Shabe Chelle is an Iranian festival celebrating the victory of light and goodness over darkness and evil. Shabe yalda means ‘birthday eve.’ According to Persian mythology, Mithra was born at dawn on the 22nd of December to a virgin mother. He symbolizes light, truth, goodness, strength, and friendship. Herodotus reports that this was the most important holiday of the year for contemporary Persians. In modern times Persians celebrate Yalda by staying up late or all night, a practice known as Shab Chera meaning ‘night gazing’. Fruits and nuts are eaten, especially pomegranates and watermelons, whose red color invokes the crimson hues of dawn and symbolize Mithra.

    · Zamenhof Day: 15 December – Birthday of Ludwig Zamenhof, inventor of Esperanto; holiday reunion for Esperantists

    · Soyal: 21 December – Zuni and Hopi

    · HumanLight: 23 December – Humanist holiday originated by the New Jersey Humanist Network in celebration of “a Humanist’s vision of a good future.”[16]

    · Newtonmas: 25 December – As an alternative to celebrating the religious holiday Christmas, some atheists and skeptics have chosen to celebrate December 25 as Newtonmas, due to it being Isaac Newton’s birthday on the old style date.

    · Quaid-e-Azam’s Day: 25 December

    · Boxing Day: 26 December – Day after Christmas.

    · Kwanzaa: 26 December–1 January – Pan-African festival celebrated in the US

    · Watch Night: 31 December

    · Hogmanay: night of 31 December–before dawn of 1 January – Scottish New Year’s Eve celebration

    · Dongzhi Festival – a celebration of Winter

    · Chalica: first week of December – A holiday created in 2005, celebrated by some Unitarian Universalists.[17]

    in reply to: S.I. talks to Snead about Rams's future #14652
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    Well, if you take all that “obsession” vs “balance”
    thing seriously, i would ‘think’
    that means Snead is going to be obsessed
    with putting a dominant OLINE on the field
    next year. The QB situation is out of his control
    in some respects but the OLine situation isnt.

    If the Rams just eliminated the big soul-crushing
    Turnovers this year, they would have had a winning record.
    So how do you avoid turnovers? — you avoid pressure
    on your QB. How do you do that? — Dominant Oline.

    Seems to me, Snead will probably find the best, healthiest,
    free agent OLineman on the market and sign him. And then
    spend two of the top three picks in the draft on OLinemen.

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    • This reply was modified 11 years, 4 months ago by Avatar photowv.
    in reply to: RX for next year #14651
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    wv wrote:
    I’ve never seen a team
    blow so many assignments that
    resulted in game-breakers. I dunno.
    Maybe it just ‘seems’ like they
    blow a lot of assignments.

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    Well, it sure seems like Jenkins fits that description. He’s been blowing assignments since year one. This is his 3rd coordinator, and he’s still blowing assignments.

    JJ reminds me a bit of GW. There’s
    something flashy and bold about him
    but there’s also this…’unsoundness’
    to his game. Can you win a Ring
    with a guy like that? Can you count on
    him through a playoff gauntlet? I dunno.

    Anyway, apparently he’s an alternate
    for the ProBowl. So, go figure.

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    in reply to: RamView, 12/21/2014: Giants 37, Rams 27 (Long) #14646
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    wv wrote:
    As far as GW, i dunno. I do think his
    schemes are high risk – high reward,
    and i do wonder if he should stick to
    a ‘safer’ ‘sounder’ scheme — but then at times,

    i think to myself IF the players ever really
    learn the system, its possible it will be
    awesome.

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    But, see, I disagree that he plays high risk defense. “Unsound” does not necessarily mean “high risk.”

    He does all sorts of blitzing. But he backs that up with passive, soft coverage. Mike F is great on this point.

    Why do you play off the ball? You do so because you don’t trust your secondary–or your scheme–to avoid the long play. It’s a passive, soft, timid deployment. And it’s what Williams does all the time.

    Of course, we get burned deep anyway, because his fiddling with defenders’ roles puts us in weak positions. That’s a matter of incompetence, not high-risk deployments.

    And, see, here’s the pattern I have been bitching about since the preseason. Because of his futzing, we suffer from 2 key weaknesses:

    1. We give up running lanes to RBs.
    2. We can’t get off the field because QBs hit quick routes that get to 3rd and short or convert on 3rd and long.

    And it’s that 2nd point that has killed us all year. The theory of playing off coverage is that it takes more plays to score and somewhere along the way you’ll get a stop. But since the pre-season, we have been vulnerable to the long drive that we can’t stop. Think of how often this year we have felt that sickening sense that we aren’t going to get the stop we need. At least half a dozen of our losses this year have featured that debilitating habit of not being able to get stops. Even some of our wins have featured it.

    We can’t get stops because, for all that blitzing, the soft coverage negates our pass rush and keeps us on the field. Even if we don’t give up the big play, we give up enough 1st downs to pile points on the board against us.

    This is the trend I have been whingeing about since the pre-season. It’s a pervasive pattern in most wins and losses, against good and bad offenses.

    And the clincher is the DEN game. Williams did not call a Williams game that day. He challenged Manning all day. The “high risk” turned out to be far more effective. As it always does when you have talent.

    If anyone wants to see what I am talking about, watch the AZ game. Watch what that AZ DC does. Honestly. He blitzes as much or more than Williams does. But is it high risk?

    Nope. Because he challenges the offense all over the field. There is nothing there … and then his pass rush gets there. Really. Watch that game, what AZ is doing. That is the RIGHT way to blitz. That guy is streets ahead of Williams, and not because he doesn’t blitz.

    And now for the question of continuity. It is so tempting, so attractive to think that “another year in the system” will pay off.

    But is that what we have seen this year? Think about it. The 1st half sucked. OK, you could say that the guys were learning the system. I don’t buy that, but it would be a plausible read.

    Then what happens. The light goes on and we play like heroes for a month. And THEN …

    Then we give up the run to a lousy AZ offense. And we crater against Peyton’s less talented brother.

    IF the problem was the team learning the system, how could it flip so quickly from excellence to suddenly forgetting how the system works? Guys who were making the system hum for a quarter of the season suddenly can’t figure out how to run it? Does that really make any sense?

    Well, what the hell do I know? Fisher will last and keep Williams and we’ll watch him try to run this unit again next year. I have very lousy expectations. My only consolation?

    When we’re 6-9 again next year, no one will be able to say, “they need another year in the system.”

    I wouldn’t think …

    Well, i dunno, RFL. You may be right, i have no idea.

    But i do know, that GW’s system worked not that long
    ago in New Orleans — they won a Ring with him.
    And that Defense, as i recall gave up a lot of yards
    and big plays, but they also got a ton of turnovers.

    But of course, they were paired with a very potent Offense.

    Btw…If the Rams do just one thing next year — if they eliminate
    all the Pick-6’s and Fumbles-for-TDs — they should
    have a winning record. And i think those bad-plays
    can be eliminated IF they make good personnel decisions
    on the OLINE. We’ll see if Snisher can fix the Oline.

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    • This reply was modified 11 years, 4 months ago by Avatar photowv.
    in reply to: Ogletree and O'dell #14644
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    Well to me, OBJ is just defending himself.
    Ogletree is hitting him OUT OF BOUNDS.
    Why ‘wouldnt’ OBJ grab Ogletree’s facemask at THAT point?

    I mean, where is the FIRST infraction? — Ogletree continuing
    to hit OBJ out of bounds.

    Its irrelevant that Ogletree ‘started’ to hit OBJ
    inbounds — the problem was Ogletree CONTINUED
    to hit OBJ out of bounds.

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    • This reply was modified 11 years, 4 months ago by Avatar photowv.
    in reply to: RX for next year #14643
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    Here’s my view of the team. It won’t surprise anyone who has read me, except perhaps in that I actually view our position very favorably. Snead has built the team up effectively, and I trust him to keep doing that. I actually think that we are very, very close to being a fine team. But, we must do 3 things.

    1. Find a mid-table vet starter to play QB. I’ve made this point numerous times and you guys know my argument.

    2. Build up the OL with at least 3, probably 4 acquisitions: OC, OG, ROT. Draft and FA. And do a better job at picking up FAs than we did with Long, Wells, and Joseph. (If Saffold’s surgery doesn’t improve his likelihood of lasting out there, add an OG to the list.) The OL has got to do 2 things at mid-table level:
    1. Block tough D fronts in the run game.
    2. Pass block well enough to give our QBs a chance to throw medium passes.
    Give us a starting-level QB and solid OL, and I like what our offense could do.

    3. Replace Williams with a sound DC. He has no idea how to use our talent.

    For the rest, I’d be happy moving forward.

    Chances of us doing these things?

    Move 1. 50% Is Fisher really capable of trusting Bradford’s health again? He might be.

    Move 2. 40% They’ll make improvements, but I doubt they’ll do enough with the OL.

    Move 3. 5% Fisher cannot see what a fool Williams is. And our defense will continue to under-perform.

    Well, I’d like to see them bring in a good free agent Vet-QB,
    but i dont think there are any of those available.
    So, i think its gonna be Bradford and Hill and a Rookie.
    There might be a “Sanchez” type vet available but i dont
    think that would help.

    OLine — yes, i agree. The Interior
    needs new blood, and i dunno about Barksdale
    and I dunno about Saffold’s health.
    So the QB and the OLine
    are major problems in my view.

    GW? — I would not be in favor of dumping him.
    I havent decided what i think of GW yet.
    I am of two-minds on GW. Still processing.

    I’m sick to death of blown assignments in
    the secondary, btw. I’ve never seen a team
    blow so many assignments that
    resulted in game-breakers. I dunno.
    Maybe it just ‘seems’ like they
    blow a lot of assignments.

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    RFL and I just don’t see him ever being healthy enough to have a snowball’s chance of playing without getting hurt again. He cannot run, he cannot evade rushers, he is a one-legged athlete.

    Well but that’s not really relevant. For one thing, so-called running or highly mobile qbs get sacked and hit more often on avg. than pocket passers, not less often. Bradford has a low sack percentage under Fisher compared to all 3 of the other qbs who have started in the same period. The way to beat the rush is (with the blitz) to read the D pre-snap and fire off to hot reads or audible, and otherwise drop and throw in rhythm. Bradford has a quick release so it’s a strength.

    For another thing, Bradford’s 2 knees do not come from “being hit.” We saw him take huge hits in the pre-season and just shake them off. And that’s pretty much his career. As someone who has hyper-extended a knee several times, and who knows exactly what that is like, what I saw was the typical freak hyper-extension issue–plant the foot wrong with the body weight pushing the leg at an awkward angle, and you can get hurt. I’ve done it (though mercifully never to the point where I tore an ACL). And I did it doing nothing…the stories are even funny. It never had anything to do with contact.

    In terms of what YOU GUYS TRUST, that’s one thing. In terms of making an objective management decision, to me, it seems obvious that you keep Bradford in the mix. If he comes through, good. If he can’t play, then, you move on. But you don’t throw away the possibility of having a good experienced pro qb if there’s a chance he can play. What you DO do, IMO, is set it up so your bases are covered. To me that’s the win/win scenario. I don’t even ask myself if I personally “trust” his odds or luck or chances…that would have more to do with how I personally relate emotionally to possible dangers than it would have to do with how I think you’re supposed to manage this kind of situation.

    I personally think you manage this situation be covering your bases. That means doing everything. Give Bradford a win-win contract, have a veteran #2 around, draft a guy. IMO it doesn’t hurt you to do that and if the odds go your way you benefit.

    The whole “running QBs get sacked more” is irrelevant. Cause the knee
    could affect Bradford’s ability to move around and be ‘nimble’ in
    the pocket. Like Marino. As you know Marino wasn’t a running QB
    BUT he was awesom in the pocket — he was nimble — he could MOVE.
    We dont know if Sam will be slower, or clunkier in the pocket
    because of the second kneee operation.

    I also dont know why its relevant that his injuries come
    from planting his foot as opposed to ‘getting hit’. What
    difference does it make? If his knee is weak and he gets
    hurt by planting his foot, then that would be a real problem,
    yes?

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    in reply to: Can the Rams beat Seattle? #14601
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    No.

    Yes.

    I mean, I disagree with
    your No.

    This team is capable of “anything.”

    Quinn could get a strip-sack and the D
    could get Six early…etc, etc.

    Seattle does not have an Odell Beckham
    or a Dez Bryant. I could see the Rams
    staying close the whole game.

    Probably not, but i could see it.

    They’ll have to stuff Lynch,
    of course.

    And Ogletree will have to play
    with his eyes open this time.

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    I understand what RFL is saying.

    Trust is something that one can have or not have in someone based on experience, past performance and using that to reasonable predict he near future. It’s not a feeling. To me, it’s really the same as saying Bradford can be good when healthy, RFL and I just don’t see him ever being healthy enough to have a snowball’s chance of playing without getting hurt again. He cannot run, he cannot evade rushers, he is a one-legged athlete.

    For Fischer and Snead NOT to acknowledge that relying on Bradford to be the starter next year and any length of time beyond that would demonstrate to me that they are ignoring the evidence in front of them and they are making an emotional decision to stick with Sam based on – feelings or wishful thinking.

    Adrian Peterson came back from a horrific knee injury, maybe Sam can too. History tells us he most likely will not and the Rams need to recognize that.

    I have no idea what 2 ACL surgeries portend,
    but i thot it was interesting that Fisher said
    the knee is not more likely to be injured if its had
    a second surgery. I think i heard him say that this week.
    Maybe i hallucinated it.

    Sure would be a great story if Sam ‘could’ come back
    and start sixteen games. Who knows. Maybe he’ll
    come off the bench next year in the second half of the year
    to lead the team to the playoffs. Or maybe he
    plays and blows out the knee a THIRD time. So many possible
    scenarios.
    It will be a weird offseason.

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    • This reply was modified 11 years, 4 months ago by Avatar photowv.
    in reply to: RamView, 12/21/2014: Giants 37, Rams 27 (Long) #14597
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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>wv wrote:</div>
    but then at times,
    i think to myself IF the players ever really
    learn the system, its possible it will be
    awesome

    That’s where I stand on Wms. I mean, he has done it before. I think the Denver game gave a glimpse of what they can become…and they can become that pretty soon.

    Well, we’ll find out next year, i suppose. The players will have
    had two offseasons with GW. Things ‘should‘ be better…
    …next year.
    As a Ram fan I am obligated to say things like that. 🙂

    Looks to me like the only difference tween you and rfl
    is RFL wants a Free-Agent-Veteran-QB in the mix.
    I’d like that too, but i dont think any good ones
    are available. Ah well.

    I also refuse to believe there are no good QBs in this draft.
    I mean, 2nd and 3rd rounders. Or late first rounders. I just
    dont believe this year is devoid of good QBs. I bet they
    are out there, somewhere. Some team will find one.

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