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  • January 11, 2015 at 7:43 pm in reply to: Did Cowboys get robbed? #16305
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    Agamemnon wrote:

    If I call it a catch, then I can enjoy Dallas getting jobbed.

    High-level and sinister thinking, there, Ag.
    I congratulate you.

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    January 11, 2015 at 6:43 pm in reply to: Did Cowboys get robbed? #16300
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    Dunno if this GIF will work, but its the one LA posted at the herd board.
    LA thought it shows a catch. Because dez is “reaching out” for the endzone.

    I think it shows a no catch. Cause to me theres no “reaching out for the endzone” Exception
    to the Rules. He didnt demonstrate control. He shouldnt have reached out if he
    was gonna bobble it by reaching out. He shoulda just tucked it.

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    January 11, 2015 at 5:18 pm in reply to: Did Cowboys get robbed? #16294
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    PA Ram wrote:

    Some tweets from Dallas fan Skip Bayless:

    Skip Bayless @RealSkipBayless · 1h 1 hour ago
    NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Absolute robbery. He was just trying to slam the ball across the goal line.

    Skip Bayless
    ‏@RealSkipBayless
    That’s it. Crime of the Century.

    Skip Bayless @RealSkipBayless · 56m 56 minutes ago
    Now that lucky Rodgers has the refs and the NFL gods on his side.

    Skip Bayless @RealSkipBayless · 55m 55 minutes ago
    I just might have to throw up.

    Skip Bayless @RealSkipBayless · 53m 53 minutes ago
    Dez Bryant not only caught the ball and made a football play, he came very close to slamming the ball on the goal line for a TD. ROBBERY!

    Skip Bayless @RealSkipBayless · 48m 48 minutes ago
    Howie Long gets it. Dez was EXTENDING FOR THE GOAL LINE.

    Skip Bayless @RealSkipBayless · 45m 45 minutes ago
    Odell Beckham Jr. gets it. HE thought it was a catch.

    Skip Bayless @RealSkipBayless · 29m 29 minutes ago
    Congrats, Packer fans. You just benefitted from one of the worst replay decisions in NFL playoff history, right there with the Tuck Rule.

    And his thoughts on last week’s picked up flag?

    Skip Bayless @RealSkipBayless · Jan 6
    OK! OK! Cowboys got away with couple of things vs Det. So they’re supposed to forfeit at GBay? NO! THEY’RE PLAYING. DEAL WITH IT.

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    January 11, 2015 at 5:08 pm in reply to: what did they text and when did they text it ? #16292
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    PA Ram wrote:

    It’s not good if the front office is trying to dial up plays.

    By the way–this sort of thing plays into a Columbo episode: “The Most Crucial Game” 1972

    Paul Hanlon (Robert Culp), the general manager of the Los Angeles Rockets football team, wants to create a sports empire, but Eric Wagner (Dean Stockwell), who inherited the team, lacks ambition. Hanlon kills Eric instead.

    …See? Everything in life can be explained by a Columbo episode.

    Well if Los Angeles already has a football team,
    then I’m confused.

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    January 11, 2015 at 4:53 pm in reply to: Anyone giving Seattle a chance over Carolina? #16290
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    zn wrote:

    Here’s my big insight from the Packers game.

    That Aaron Rodgers guy, he’s pretty good.

    I don’t get why Snisher didn’t draft him.

    That last TD pass of his,
    while he was moving — the one
    that split the two defenders — well,
    Damn.

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    January 11, 2015 at 4:37 pm in reply to: Did Cowboys get robbed? #16288
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    Itz Dallas and itz Dez
    so, NO, it wasnt a catch.

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    January 11, 2015 at 3:36 pm in reply to: Russell Wilson to become highest-paid QB? #16281
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    zn wrote:

    The 2015 list presents them with no issues.

    How about 2016?

    In 2016 they have right now about half the cap free, based on the estimate that 2016 cap space will be around 150 M. That doesn’t count 2 draft classes (2015 and 2016) or Wilson. I list only UFAs. I took Wilson off the list cause they’re obviously extending him. I also bolded the guys I think will be important priorities.

    Russell Okung LT Seahawks UFA $8,083,333
    Marshawn Lynch RB Seahawks UFA $7,500,000
    Brandon Mebane DT Seahawks UFA $5,000,000
    Zach Miller TE Seahawks UFA $3,000,000
    Tony McDaniel DT Seahawks UFA $2,875,000
    Bruce Irvin 43DE Seahawks Option $2,335,550
    Jon Ryan P Seahawks UFA $1,516,667
    Bobby Wagner ILB Seahawks UFA $1,076,950
    Robert Turbin RB Seahawks UFA $639,114
    Jeremy Lane CB Seahawks UFA $556,279
    J.R. Sweezy OG Seahawks UFA $539,212

    The impression I get is that they handled the cap well and the Wilson contract will not bite them if they continue to draft at a high level.

    The year they have to watch out for is 2017, when virtually their entire secondary (Sherman, Thomas, Chancellor) is up.

    …

    Damn. Then we’ll have to hope for
    an Act of God.

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    January 11, 2015 at 3:34 pm in reply to: Anyone giving Seattle a chance over Carolina? #16280
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    Just saw the stats on the Patriot-Raven game

    Patriots 408 yards passing.
    Patriots 14 yards rushing. (13 rushing plays)

    Thats gotta be some sorta record.

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    January 11, 2015 at 3:19 pm in reply to: Russell Wilson to become highest-paid QB? #16278
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    Fwiw. Seattle free agents in 2015
    http://espn.go.com/blog/seattle-seahawks/post/_/id/11072/2015-seattle-seahawks-free-agents

    The Seattle Seahawks have 19 free agents as they enter the 2015 offseason. The new league year opens at 4 p.m. ET March 10, when unrestricted free agents can sign with any team.

    Here’s a list of the Seahawks Unrestricted and restricted free agents:

    Unrestricted:
    Taravis Jackson, quarterback
    Will Tukuafu, fullback/defensive end
    Anthony McCoy, tight end
    Tony Moeaki, tight end
    Lemuel Jeanpierre, center
    Byron Maxwell, cornerback
    Kevin Williams, defensive tackle
    O’Brien Schofield, defensive end
    Demarcus Dobbs, defensive end
    D’Anthony Smith, defensive tackle
    Malcolm Smith, outside linebacker
    Heath Farwell, middle linebacker
    Jeron Johnson, safety
    Clint Gresham, long snapper

    Restricted:
    Jermaine Kearse, wide receiver
    Bryan Walters, receiver/punt returner
    Mike Morgan, outside linebacker
    Greg Scruggs, defensive end
    Stephen Schilling, guard
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    January 11, 2015 at 1:40 pm in reply to: Anyone giving Seattle a chance over Carolina? #16273
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    Pats Trick Play against Ravens:

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/10/7526841/the-patriots-trick-play-that-got-john-harbaugh-mad-ravens

    January 11, 2015 at 1:31 pm in reply to: Anyone giving Seattle a chance over Carolina? #16269
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    Pack 7
    Cowboyz 0
    First Quarter..

    make that seven to seven…

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    January 11, 2015 at 10:46 am in reply to: According to NFL.com Rex Ryan to coach the Buffalo Bills & Roman goes with him #16255
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    sdram wrote:

    Yes, he’s got a lot of bravado and just plain bullshit about him. But, the players love him from what I understand. And, he’s a good defensive coach.

    So, it appears he’s going to pair with Trestman from the accounts floating around – that might be a really good combination for Buffalo. Their personnel is not that bad – need a QB either from within or without. And, it’s telling for me that he didn’t throw the ex-jet GM under the bus, at least publicly. Anyway, I’m just happy his defensive schemes didn’t follow him to SF.

    I was kinda hoping for a
    pairing of Rex and Martz.
    Ya know. Just to see.

    It annoys me that Martz is
    still out of the league.
    I’d like to see him back in the NFL.

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    January 11, 2015 at 10:38 am in reply to: Rice Video newz #16254
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    nittany ram wrote:

    So the NFL’s investigation into misconduct committed by the NFL clears the NFL of any wrong-doing?

    Well, at least we know it was impartial…

    Look, if you dont like this country,
    you can just go sell aluminum in North Korea.

    The NFL obviously values women,
    or it wouldnt provide so many
    cheerleader jobs.

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    January 11, 2015 at 9:58 am in reply to: Dick Lebeau out as Steelers DC #16246
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    21Dog wrote:

    No one could whip up prison camp show like Lebeau.

    i alwayz thot it was nice of the Nazis
    to let him keep his rasberry beret

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    January 11, 2015 at 9:33 am in reply to: Rams granted permission to speak with Greg Roman and Kyle Shanahan #16242
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    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

    The offensive coordinator Rex Ryan is most likely to bring with him to Buffalo is 49ers OC Greg Roman, per source.

    Filed to ESPN: Bills putting finishing touches on deal that will make Rex Ryan their next HC, per sources. More on Sunday NFL Countdown.
    Just a couple more I’s to dot and T’s to cross, but Rex Ryan now expected to be the next Buffalo Bills HC. First domino falls!

    January 11, 2015 at 9:29 am in reply to: Rams granted permission to speak with Greg Roman and Kyle Shanahan #16240
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    Agamemnon wrote:

    <span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>I always look at trust when I want someone. There are different kinds of trust. You can trust someone to do what you want. You can trust someone to be good. You can trust someone to be what they are. I think Shanahan might fit all kinds.</span>

    Well in any of Fisher’s gazillion years
    in Tennessee, did he use a predominantly zone blocking scheme?

    …i wonder if he thinks that ZBS fits Tre Mason better.

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    January 11, 2015 at 9:25 am in reply to: Russell Wilson to become highest-paid QB? #16239
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    Um…what “sources” would tell a reporter that the seahawks
    are gonna make Wilson the highest paid QB ?

    I doubt he gets more than Rogers got.

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    January 11, 2015 at 9:19 am in reply to: According to NFL.com Rex Ryan to coach the Buffalo Bills & Roman goes with him #16238
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    I dunno. He would be about the last guy
    on earth I’d Hire as a head coach.
    I dont get it.

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    January 10, 2015 at 5:45 pm in reply to: Anyone giving Seattle a chance over Carolina? #16176
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    Agamemnon wrote:

    I watch the games if NE, Dallas, or Seattle are losing.

    Exactly.

    Crippling injuries are a bonus.

    Whats new in the world of
    snooker?

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    January 10, 2015 at 5:44 pm in reply to: new relocation thread! starting with JT: Kroenke faces rough road out of town #16175
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    InvaderRam wrote:

    i was just reading about the jaguars lease agreement with jacksonville.

    http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2011-11-30/story/jaguars-lease-makes-it-costly-leave-jacksonville-2030

    there are ways they can get out of their lease agreement which lasts until 2030.

    maybe khan gets st. louis to pay 100 million dollars to get out of their lease after the rams build their stadium.

    But then the Jacksonville fans
    are screwed.
    And Peace and Justice still elude us.

    Cant you think of a win, win, win
    solution?

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    January 10, 2015 at 5:41 pm in reply to: Lame duck year #16173
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    Agamemnon wrote:

    Bradford is healthy. STL wins another Superbowl.

    O, now ‘that’ would be
    funny.

    Especially if they played the
    NFC championship game in St.Louis
    and no-one showed up.

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    January 10, 2015 at 5:37 pm in reply to: Anyone giving Seattle a chance over Carolina? #16171
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    Ravens 14
    Pats 7
    Second Quarter.

    Hmmmm.

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    January 10, 2015 at 5:23 pm in reply to: Back to LA, again #16162
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    If Kronk-the-socio-path buys the Broncos
    he’d have to give up the other NFL team he owned.

    Then again, maybe Kronk’s secret plan is to eventually
    own all 32 teams. The NKL. National Kronk League.

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    January 10, 2015 at 5:18 pm in reply to: new relocation thread! starting with JT: Kroenke faces rough road out of town #16161
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    Mackeyser wrote:

    Yeah, Zooey.

    I think in the end, the Rams…MAY… be in LA.

    And the NFL will STILL build the stadium… and the Jags will move to St. Louis.

    Hard on the locals, but the data shows that the fans have supported about the worst team in the NFL over that time better than a number of other cities.

    What will be surprising will be if the Raiders actually move to San Antonio.

    THAT may happen. Football in Texas is next to Godliness… for some it’s sacrilegiously above actual religion… If you thought Raider Nation was rabid in Oakland… In Texas? woof… Crazy squared… but I wouldn’t mind being at that tailgate for the homemade tamales… sales of Tecate, Dos Equis, and Corona would spike considerably. That is unless the tastes of Raider fans have changed over the years…

    One can only hope Port-a-Potty technology has improved…DRAMATICALLY!!!

    Worst smell I ever smelled wasn’t the tear gas I had to sample in the Navy… nope… It was from the Port-a-Pottys after the Raider/Bronco game at the LA Coliseum. Damn things were almost overflowing… /wretch and quite literally, LORD HELP those who couldn’t hold it… Just walking by made me gag.

    Has there been talk about expansion
    in NFL circles the last few years?
    I aint paid any attention.

    Maybe there’s a double-secret deal or at least
    winks-and-nods to the St.Louis folks that they
    will be first in line for the next expansion team
    if the Rams leave.

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    January 10, 2015 at 5:16 pm in reply to: new relocation thread! starting with JT: Kroenke faces rough road out of town #16159
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    Zooey wrote:

    …….
    ….I’ve said before I don’t think that personal issues are going to decide this. They will get over the way he went about it, and they will spin some shit to make this work. I didn’t think that at first, but I do now.

    Yes.

    And ‘fairness’ aint got nuthin
    ta do with the move ‘from’ LA
    or the move back ‘to’ LA.

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    “I don’t deserve this..to die like this! I was building a house”

    “Deserve’s got nuthin to do with it”

    (Unforgiven)

    January 10, 2015 at 5:06 pm in reply to: Mike Martz interview #16157
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    “So what did he say how he would use tavon?”

    Starts at 19:30 or so..
    He said he’d “start him off at Z like with Isaac and move him all over the place
    and use him as much as he could…Wouldnt let him off the field if he raised his hand…”

    He says teams should practice and use
    Hard Counts against the Seattle Defense,
    among other things. Says Cam Newton wont
    be intimidated in Seattle.

    Good stuff.

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    January 10, 2015 at 3:45 pm in reply to: Rams granted permission to speak with Greg Roman and Kyle Shanahan #16145
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    PA Ram wrote:

    Shotty’s Jets:

    Jets(2006): 18th

    Jets:(2007) 25th

    Jets: (2008) 9th

    Jets: (2009) 17th

    Jets: (2010) 13th

    Jets: (2011) 13th

    Post Shotty:

    Jets: (2014) 28th

    Jets: (2013) 29th

    Jets: (2012) 28TH
    ————————————————–
    Rams: (2012) 25th

    Rams: (2013) 21st

    Rams: (2014) 21st

    Shotty had one top ten offense in 9 years.

    All just bad luck? Maybe.

    Certainly the Jets nose dived after he left.

    But I don’t see what made him “special” in any way and while I hate the system change, he doesn’t stand out as someone who is an elite OC in any way.

    The biggest issue I have and had with losing him was changing the system.

    I think maybe BS’s Jets may have been no.1 in Rushing?

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    January 10, 2015 at 3:28 pm in reply to: Mike Martz interview #16141
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    Martz alludes to somethin RFL has talked about.
    He thinks the league may swing away from being pass-happy
    and towards more balance in the future….

    Near the end they ask him what he’d to
    with Tavon.

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    January 10, 2015 at 3:25 pm in reply to: Rams granted permission to speak with Greg Roman and Kyle Shanahan #16140
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    zn wrote:

    If you can’t name examples, the idea that that is an “excuse” obviously looks like bs. Cause it’s just an unreal expectation that is never met in reality.

    Speaking of context, the Cleveland offense last year was 23rd, which is below 18th. Now what are KS’s “excuses” in Cleveland? Oh yeah qb issues. (And that’s in spite of having a top OL.) Sound familiar? Funny how that works.

    Well, i wanna know what BS’s excuses were
    for finishing first in offense
    those two years in NY.

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    January 10, 2015 at 3:22 pm in reply to: Back to LA, again #16139
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    zn wrote:

    Good find, that article.

    Anyway let;s look at whether or not the LEAGUE gets money from luxury boxes.

    Let;s pretend that the luxury box sales in LA are around 138 M, a figure already mentioned in this discussion.

    The league gets 40% of that, or 55.2 M. If I read it right, they also get a 10% tax on big market revenues. So that’s 10% of 60% which is another 8.3 M (appx). So the league gets 63.5 M, and that’s split among 31 teams, which is 2 M each, give or take.

    Which just drives home the point that the league does not benefit financially from a move.

    It doesn’t hurt them either.

    But it just means increased league revenue will not be an argument FOR league approval.

    In comparison each team gets around 180 something M from the tv contracts.

    Yeah, I’ve never understood the “it benefits the League” argument.
    I mean, sure maybe a little, but i dont think thats really a factor.
    It might make the NFL get a bigger tv contract though. But still
    i dont think it benefits the league enough to be a significant factor.
    But…I dunno.

    For me…I kinda work backwards on all this
    (its a lawyer thing) — I think Stan is GONNA
    move them. So for ME, the question becomes,
    “how is the NFL gonna make this all seem
    nice and legal” — cause they are gonna haf to.

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