16 and 0 this year RFL.
I’m tellin ya — this is our year!

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“I love Zack and he knows that. But this is exactly where we differ!
Zack is in the fetal position, but my head is in the oven! No amount of semantics can change this.”
Zooey’d For Life

zn wrote:

wv wrote:

zn wrote:

wv wrote:

I saw it. Yup – Road Warrior on steroids and acid.

Its awesome to look at. Fast and furious — much like the GSOT
in the Viking playoff game.

Long, long chase scenes. With no humor. Not like Indiana Jones
chase scenes.

If Salvadore Dali took some speed, and made a movie, it might look
like this one.

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Personally, my only complaint (and it’s minor, really) is that I don’t like Hardy’s Max as much as Miller’s Max.

Miller’s Max was a burned out, cynical loner who knew he had more skill and resources than anyone he faced. In the end he doesn’t even help the refinery people because he cares…he does so because he has no choice. His signature line is “I am the best chance you’ve got.” He’s always bargaining. Contracts are big in that movie.

The Gyro Captain: Look, we had a deal. I show you the gas, and you let me go, right?
Max: The arrangement was I wouldn’t kill you.
The Gyro Captain: After all I’ve done for you…
Max: I reckon you got a bargain, didn’t you?

Hardy’s Max is more of a burned out homeless guy. A homeless guy who talks to himself. He changes in the course of the film and identifies with Furioso out of sheer sympathy, and a chance for redemption by helping.

I am not complaining about that part.

I just personally liked the Miller Max better because this Max is too victimized and even comic. More Buster Keaton. For example his moments of high action effectiveness (like with the tank/car in the night…”that’s not his blood”…) come out of nowhere.

I thought the clunkiest scenes were the two
(I think there were two?) where one of the characters
expressly used the word “redemption.”

The writing in those scenes lacked subtlety, nuance.

As far as the difference in the two Max’s — I agree
with you about the first Max, but I really dont have
any idea who this Max was. Other than the ‘haunted by guilt’
aspect, i really didnt pick up on any character development at all.
There just wasn’t much there.

I am guessing the Next Max movie will be the opposite — lots
of character development and a lot less car crashing.

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Well he goes from being the haunted loner who is willing to just drive off and leave them there to the guy who talks them into their (to avoid spoilers) endgame strategy. He does it because he identifies with the pain of someone else.

Also remember he gives blood twice, for 2 different reasons. The second one shows he has changed.

So they was some character development IMO.

I just don’t particularly care for this Max v. the old Max, yet at the same time it’s a very minor complaint.

I have no clue what was going on with the blood in the tube,
when he’s strapped to the car, early on. WTF was going on there?
I had thought his blood was maybe running the vehicle,
but the person i saw the movie with said no.

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zn wrote:

Jokes aside, actually yer right.
Threads like this are supposed to be free-for-alls of different views,
not “who’s right” death matches.

Ok, fine, but where is the
“who’s right Death Match thread” ?

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I saw it. Yup – Road Warrior on steroids and acid.

Its awesome to look at. Fast and furious — much like the GSOT
in the Viking playoff game.

Long, long chase scenes. With no humor. Not like Indiana Jones
chase scenes.

If Salvadore Dali took some speed, and made a movie, it might look
like this one.

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• This reply was modified 11 years ago by wv.

I’m in favor of adopting the New England formula:
1 Great Coach
2 Great QB
3 Intelligent, mentally-tough, team-first players who dont need to cheat to win.
4 Lots of cheating

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InvaderRam wrote:

13. The NFL has long held the belief that the LA market is a crowned jewel, a holy grail waiting for the bravest knight to pull the sword from the stone. They have held onto this treasure for 20 years, and it has served the NFL very well, getting new stadiums built in various cites around the league. It strikes me as odd that the NFL will now give this prized treasure to two owners, Spanos and Davis, who have so little means that they both need league support just to get their stadium built, and have flailed in their own markets without any hint of a move to LA until Kroenke made his play. Why reward these two owners for their apparent incompetence, sitting on their hands for years but accomplishing nothing? What did they do to deserve the LA market? Fortune favors the bold.

this. if the league were fair and just, the rams would stay in st. louis. the chargers and raiders would move to los angeles…

we should know better than this.

Well, if the league were fair and just, the Rams wouldnt
have moved away from LA.

Then again, if the league were fair and just, maybe
they wouldnt have moved out of Cleveland.

Then again….etc, and so forth.

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Zooey wrote:

I’m feeling like the Rams are taking another mulligan year, frankly.
Let’s go 2016.

No way, dude.

I like the idea of a young, healthy, mauling, ornery OLine.

I like this team. Playoffs, this year.

Maybe even a Home playoff game. In St.Louis. O dear.

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The Raiders should stay in Oakland.
They belong in Oakland.

To me, the Oakland Raiders are one of those special
teams, like Dallas, Green Bay. Maybe Pittsburgh.
You just dont mess around with those institutions.

The Oakland owner should sell the team to someone
richer, and keep them where they belong. In Oakland.

…can you imagine, the Raiders
moving to a midwest town like St.Louis Missouri?
Its anathema.

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PA Ram wrote:

This is all going to be very interesting when it gets to the finish line.

It’s musical chairs and someone is not getting a chair.

The team that “feels” like the odd team out is Oakland. Maybe that’s just because they’ve been the quietest team during all this. There is no doubt that the Chargers and Rams are full speed ahead toward L.A. but because their moves involve two different stadiums, something has to give somewhere. At some point the NFL will have to get Spanos and Kroenke and Davis in a room and lock the door and not come out until it’s all sorted out and even then–if things go badly you have to wonder if teams will say “screw it” and do what they want to do anyway.

I still feel, at the end of the day, that somehow it’s going to be the Rams and Chargers but nothing is carved in stone yet.

We’ll see.

Well, I dont like the idea of ‘sharing’
a stadium. I dont want the Rams
sharing a stadium with the Chargers,
or heaven-forbid, the Raiders.

Sharing is goofy. I dont like it.

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zn wrote:

wv wrote:

I assume he can help Mannion learn the game.

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I sincerely doubt they have him doing any qb coaching. No one is going to have 2 qb coaches–you would think they would just get in each others’s way. Plus of course if they did have TWO qb coaches one would quite simply have to take orders from the other, and why would Garcia take that job?

My bet is that Garcia does some film stuff, quality control stuff, brainstorming input stuff, maybe “as needed” drill work stuff, that kind of thing. IMO you don’t get a qb up to snuff by giving him mixed messages, and on the other hand you don’t hire a guy like Garcia to just make himself into the qb coach’s bot.

Yeah, that makes sense.

But if Wienke gets injured
at least now they have depth
at QB coach.

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Good. Everything I’ve read about Garcia
has suggested he’s dynamic and intelligent.

I assume he can help Mannion learn the game.

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Hram wrote:

We still have some money available for this year. Do we sign a player or two? Perhaps a veteran grunt OG or two for not too much money? Or do we restructure a current contract and pull some money forward into this year to save it for future years?
Blalock?

I would think they will sign a vet guard.
Someone will shake loose at some point.

If they dont, i guess it would mean
they have a lot of faith in someone
already on the team.

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Zooey wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

wv wrote:

The question is Why? What is he up to?

i believe he’s trying to give me diarrhea.

That’s Wagoner’s take on all this.

Wagoner has never been a voice of reason though;
Lets wait for Bernie to weigh in
before we start speculating wildly
about Invaders evacuation crisis.

Greg Robinson at LT, The Rookie Frankenstein at RT.
Could be pretty entertaining. Kinda. In a way.

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InvaderRam wrote:

wv wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

“Base minimum, $350K to sign, $1M more available in incentives.”

WOW, Joe lost some big money somewhere. He needs a different agent. imo</span></span>

That cant be right.
There is no way he is valued by NFL teams at
that low a price.

That would really surprise me.

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i agree. if rams couldn’t beat that, i don’t know what to say. unless barksdale was just so pissed off that he refused to re-sign with the rams.

I’m skeptical about those numbers.

Obviously, the nefarious, dangerous and wily Ag
is trying to feed us disinformation.
The question is Why? What is he up to?

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