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wvParticipantI”m sure they’ll get better.
WV, I’m curious. How is it that you’re sure they’ll get better? I see no reason at all to make an assumption like that.
Just wondering why you do.
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Well because I think the coaches will continue to watch the tape
and learn from the tape, and make adjustments.I think a veteran like Welker in the receiving corp might help.
And i think part of the problem is probably youth and communication
on the OLine. I dont think Foles has had much time, and I dont think
he trusts the Oline.…I was expecting problems on the pass-offense, but I am disappointed
its THIS bad. Its awful. Its past game 8 and it is just horrendous.
Disappointing for sure.I’m not saying i expect it to get a LOT better, RFL.
Maybe ‘somewhat’ better, though. Better enough to maybe
beat teams like the Vikings.I am not disappointed in the Defense. (they played well
even without Quinn) Special teams look fine.
Run-offense is fine.One piece of the puzzle left. Granted,
its a critical piece.…this is ‘not’ a ‘bad team’ in my view. They went into
Minnesota and played even with a playoff-level team.
They ‘are’ close. If the pass-offense can just be nudged
from ‘horrendous’ to ‘mediocre’ 🙂w
vwvParticipantInteresting stuff.
At this point i really think they could use
a savvy veteran like Welker.
Question is, does he know the system or is
he going to have to learn it?Looks like stedman’s a knucklehead. Sigh.
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vwvParticipantI think wv is mostly concerned about the “passing” offense though. A lot of the big plays are actually running plays. While the offense as a whole may indeed make bigger plays–the passing offense is somewhat miserable. Take away Gurley and Tavon’s runs and how does it look? How would it look if defenses were actually playing the pass and not having to stack the box because of Gurley’s threat? It should be easier but it just looks horrible. That’s what’s frustrating. And yes it’s many things but I don’t think they’ve gotten what they wanted out of Foles yet. Hopefully they will.
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Yes the question is about the “pass offense”,
not the “offense.”And I know the OLine is young and has
two injuries right now. And the young’ins might gel
at some point and get healthy. And Foles might
get more time, and so he might play better —
but, RIGHT NOW, this is definitely ONE of the WORST
ram pass-offenses this poster has ever seen. Ever.I”m sure they’ll get better. But right now — UGH.
HISTORIC-UGH.w
vwvParticipantWell i think Bowen misses the main point —
What I see on replay is Joyner zooming in like a rocket
and changing his angle slightly so as to either
miss the QB completely and just strafe him,
or to just graze him to let him know Joyner
is out there. What i dont see is Joyner
taking aim and trying to hurt the QB.
Looked to me like there was a very subtle
change of angle by Joyner to ‘avoid’ a major collision.Penalty? Yes. Intentional head-hunting? Nah.
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vwvParticipanti watched that Joyner play, and it did not
look to me, like Joyner bashed the QB with bad intentions.
Looked a lot worse than it was.
Looked to me like Joyner COULD have clobbered him
but instead just glanced off of him. Joyner
changed the angle of attack so as to ‘almost’
miss him completely. He shouldnt have touched
the QB at all, but I dont think he meant
to do any damage — i think he meant to just
strafe real close to him — but he grazed him
a little too much.watch it closely. What do yall think?
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vwvParticipantWell, I know a lot of folks believe the playoffs
are out of reach now. But I dont think so.
Not quite. Not quite yet.I mean they are 4 and 4. Halfway mark.
They can still win 12 games. Ya know.
Or 11. Or 10.I’m not say’in its “likely” they make
the playoffs, but would it really surprise
anyone if Atlanta and Minnesota lost three
out of four or four out of six, etc ?The Rams have to get Quinn back, though.
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vwvParticipantWow.
No Quinn, Long on the DLine
No TJ in the secondary,
No Ogletree in the LB unit,
and no
Hav or Saffold on the OLine.I’ll have to change my prediction.
Gonna have to favor the Vikes now.Vikes 24
Rams 13I see a very sloppy, error-filled
frustrating game, looming.A no-pie day.
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vwvParticipantThe most embarrassing part of that commercial is the voiceover.
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No the embarrassing part is his performance of “Im a little Tea-pot.”
Back in the early 80’s when i was majoring in Elementary Education,
i had a music class, and I had to perform I’m a little Teapot,
and Eensy Weensy Spider (also known as Itsy Bitsy Spider).I am not impressed with Gurley’s performance. It
lacked enthusiasm and the proper gestures.You have to “BE” the Teapot.
w
vNovember 8, 2015 at 10:07 am in reply to: catch percentage, drops, and other bad things from the dark side #33734wvParticipantI don’t think it’s just Foles
Nor do I think it’s just the receivers.
I think a lot of it is the Baby OL.
My bet is there’s certain things they’re not even trying with this OL, until it stabilizes..My own view is its almost all the OLine.
I think the OLine has affected
Foles and the OC/Fisher.Cook is cook. I dont see much difference.
Kendricks is hurt.
Tavon looks better.Britt is the only one that seems ‘off’
somehow. Maybe he’s injured.w
vwvParticipantwvParticipantHerzog does not post nearly enough.
Therefore he should get
cake but not be allowed
to eat it.Happy Birthday, H.
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vwvParticipant“…The 28-point defeat tied the worst margin for a home opener in franchise history.
Hard to watch? Certainly. Important to revisit this week? Absolutely….’
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I want purple blood to be spilled.
Buckets of it.w
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“There will be killing till the score is paid.”
― Homer, The OdysseyYes, purple blood must be spilled.
And the Rams will laugh and splash in the puddles like children.
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Yes. The Rams will drink Purple Blood
and Urinate the Vikings out into
the gutter where they belong.…O dear. Did i say that out loud
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“Still, we will let all this be a thing of the past, though it hurts us, and beat down by constraint the anger that rises inside us.
Now I am making an end of my anger. It does not become me, unrelentingly to rage on”
― Homer, The IliadNovember 7, 2015 at 10:56 am in reply to: Tedy Bruschi: How tough are the Patriots? Not as tough as the Rams #33697wvParticipantInteresting. There is only one elite team in the top 10 (Pats) and there are 4 losing teams in the top 10.
I guess ‘toughness’ (as Bruschi defines it) isn’t that important.
Seems like the Pats have always combined
toughness, and
smartness.Maybe the Rams have combined
toughness, and
dum-ness. Or somethin.w
vwvParticipant“…The 28-point defeat tied the worst margin for a home opener in franchise history.
Hard to watch? Certainly. Important to revisit this week? Absolutely….’
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I want purple blood to be spilled.
Buckets of it.w
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“There will be killing till the score is paid.”
― Homer, The OdysseyNovember 7, 2015 at 10:01 am in reply to: Tedy Bruschi: How tough are the Patriots? Not as tough as the Rams #33692wvParticipanti don’t watch much of the other teams, but the rams do come across as a very tough team.
now if only they could figure out the passing game…
Yeah, everything is in place now,
cept
the Passing-game, and
maybe cutting down a little on pass-completions by opponents.So, they are flawed for sure,
but also right on the verge.w
vwvParticipanti suspect they are better with Barron than Ogletree.
Ogletree has good hands and is very dangerous,
but it also seems like he gets overly aggressive/reckless
sometimes. I dunno.I like that Gordo article on Barron (post before this one).
On Ogletree. This is how I see it—Rams tend to draft very raw, very developmental guys, and we get to watch them mature. The only guy who wasn’t like that was Donald (well, and Gurley). Ogletree fit that picture.
Ogletree was drafted in 2013. This is his third year. He was starting to show a lot, and was learning the game. This doesn’t surprise me, because if they can get Jenkins to mature and play disciplined, high quality defense, they can get virtually anyone to do it.
Then AO goes out and Barron steps in. Barron is different from AO in a couple of respects—he spent time apprenticing the system, and wasn’t out there starting in a situation where we get to see all his growing pains. And he is a year more experienced. So Barron is in that crucial 4-7 year veteran phase. AO was just getting there.
In other respects they’re different versions of the same guy. Just that one’s a base LB and the other’s a base DB.
AND Alexander is coming along, too.
So I am just enjoying all of this.
IMO this defense IS better than 99. The DL is better, though the 99 DL was a good one. But in 99, except for London, I thought the back 7 was more average. This back 7 is loaded with exceptional players.
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I dunno about this D being better than the 99 D. I dunno.
They seem like very different kinds of defenses to me. I know
nothing about X’s and O’s so i cant explain it, but
they just seem like apples and orangutans.At any rate, until GW’s D can be a ‘little’ more
consistent stopping big plays, and the run,
I cant call them clearly-better.This D certainly hasnt had the GSOT-help
the 99D had, thats for sure.I think this D has more raw talent,
but I am not sure they are as ‘consistent’.Then again, the 99D played that historically-Cake
schedule…. So, i dunnow
vwvParticipantYes, I would. Eagerly. Easy decision, your game. We are severely overstocked with humans – many of them bad. Everyone that has ever intentionally harmed another for their own gain or amusement would be gone. I don’t even have to think about it. It would be over 6.5 billion too and I would be happy they were gone.
Now, if the rules were changed, and I had to make a Judgement call, then no I could not do that. But if I knew for certain that those that fit my definition of bad would be gone, I would jump at the chance.
Yeah, I think i would to. But what the hell
does that say about us?Mack may be the only one of us
thats not massively-genocidal.w
vNovember 6, 2015 at 5:03 pm in reply to: Prediction thread – Minnesota Vikings – out of doors #33672wvParticipantI don’t know ZN, Loadholt is out for the season C Sullivan had a setback after back surgery this is far from the OL that blew the Rams 2yds of the LOS last year. Kalil is doing better this year but Berger Fusco Clemmings that interior is pretty soft these days.
That’s fair. You know them better than I do by far.
So you are saying he’s a Viking fan. I see.
We will have to open up another front,
in the board-war. Raider fans AND Viking fans, now.w
vwvParticipantGurley is the ‘glide-iest’ big-runner I can think of.
So smooth. I dunno if that ‘matters’ as far as
gaining yardage, but it is somethin that jumps out at ya
when u watch him.I had a feeling the rams would be fine with Barron
playing instead of Ogletree. In fact, sometimes
i suspect they are better with Barron than Ogletree.
Ogletree has good hands and is very dangerous,
but it also seems like he gets overly aggressive/reckless
sometimes. I dunno.I wonder about Chris Long. Is it time to
move on or is he still a key cog in the machine?w
vwvParticipantI tend to think Foles is indeed a ‘better leader’
though its just a guess on my part based
on the same incomplete, fragmented info we’ve all read.
I dont think its just an ‘outgoing guy’ vs a ‘less outgoing guy’.I think i prefer Foles, but I dunno. I kinda doubt
Bradford would have survived the hits Foles took in Green Bay.
I was surprised Foles got up after a couple of those hits.Lets hope the OLine gels and we dont have to watch
Case Keenum or Mannion behind this OLine.Without Gurley I’d bet Foles wouldnt make it
thru the season in one piece.w
vNovember 5, 2015 at 8:37 pm in reply to: catch percentage, drops, and other bad things from the dark side #33600wvParticipantCatch percentage
This is for every WR and TE who has been with the Rams both years, and has had 20 or more targets.
2014:
Tavon Austin 70.5%
Stedman Bailey 65.2%
Kenny Britt 57.1%
Jared Cook 52.5%
Lance Kendricks 71.1%
Brian Quick 64.1%2015
Tavon Austin 61.5%
Stedman Bailey 47.6%
Kenny Britt 46.2%
Jared Cook 54.3%
Lance Kendricks 56.3%
Brian Quick 40.0%Somethin aint right about those numbers —
tavon has better percentages than Stedman?
We ‘know’ Stedman has better hands.w
vwvParticipantWell, its a very interesting issue. Nittany has
raised some interesting ideas.I’m not sure what i think about it, anymore.
I dunno.But i do consider the fact that Europe has
considered the issue and weighed the pluses
and minuses and they seem to have
decided on a more cautious/slow course:“…Evidence from foreign markets where GM ingredient labeling has been mandatory for many years—for instance, the European Union, where all foods containing or derived from GM crop ingredients (excluding livestock products) have had to be labeled since 2003–indicates that when food processors and retailers have been faced with these constraints they have typically avoided GM ingredients, offering consumers only certified non-GM and organic products….”
I give that some weight, cause i tend
to think Europeans are more grown-up
than Americans.w
vwvParticipantI havent watched the Eagles. Why is
Bradford playing so poorly,
assuming he is ?w
vwvParticipantNY, the pacific NW and most of the north east killed it from what I hear.
A bit dry in cali though…
Excuses!
A lot of States have had dryness.
But they still got the job done.…If Weed is as legal as beer
in Colorado, then I wonder if thats an
advantage as far as getting Free agents
to sign for Denver ?w
vNovember 5, 2015 at 4:44 pm in reply to: Prediction thread – Minnesota Vikings – out of doors #33584wvParticipantThe loss did not sit well with me, especially since it came from the Vikings….
Plus I was younger, and still believed in the power of prayer. So the Vikings not only stole the games, they stole my belief in a benevolent deity, and set me on the pathway to reckless despair that you see me on today.
So your blaming Jesus for the playoff
losses to the Vikings?Its a well-known fact Jesus is a Raider fan,
so I dont think he’d even play dice
with a Viking-Ram game.w
vwvParticipantNobody said anything about Touchdown Jesus.
Now that pic is what you think it is.
I will fill it and update the pic in celebrating the Rams victory and our American Freedoms Sunday nite.
I guess u dont live in
O-hiow
vwvParticipantHappy Day of Birth,
Mack.I always read Mack-posts.
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vwvParticipantWell I’m not a hundred percent sure we can
extrapolate much from the last two games.
I mean, the Rams got out to a lead and
Fisher probly really trusted the defense
and running game to win the last two.I’m not sure the same offensive-approach
and play-calling will stay in place
as the Rams face teams that can score
more points. I dunno.Btw, you can ‘usually’ tell when Fisher thinks
he’s an underdog because he tries to steal
a possession with Hekker-Trickery.w
vwvParticipantVikes podcast
http://www.startribune.com/access-vikings-podcast-zimmer-and-the-vikings-keep-proving-doubters-wrong/339969852/
Episode 16: The Vikings are winning games they haven’t won in recent years. But can they do it against good teams?
————-I listened to some of this and it dont sound
like the vike-podcasters are very impressed with their QBw
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