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wvParticipantYeah. Well. There is that.
The media is always eager to question the huge expense of some of those 5% wedges, but they have never in my lifetime questioned the single biggest wedge. Ever. It is a complete non-issue.
Actually, that’s not true. There was a bit of a stink in the 70s over the cost of toilet seats, as I recall. But since Reagan, there hasn’t been a peep on the subject.
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Yeah, when i win the lottery and
create the WV-Newz Network,
I’m going to have that graphic
behind every story.w
vwvParticipantWell, I ‘translate’ Bernie’s column to mean,
If they dont win today they aint makin the playoffs — again.So, i basically agree
with my own-interpretation of what Bernie said.Its basically a must-win as far as this year’s playoffs go.
Its not a must-win as far as improving, or ‘making a run’
or being a spoiler or setting up year FIVE, etc, etc, and so forth.They need to be intense, motivated,
hit hard, play their asses off. And They need to win.And then they need to do it all again next week.
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vwvParticipantLong is out, and Tavon aint gonna be Tavon if
he has a hamstring issue.Gurley left, Gurley right,
Gurley up the middle.w
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Tight end Lance Kendricks (finger) was limited Friday and is questionable; the same is true for receiver Tavon Austin (hamstring).
Cornerback Janoris Jenkins was a full participant Friday and is probable after completing the concussion protocol.
Defensive end Chris Long (knee) and linebacker Alec Ogletree (broken leg) will not play Sunday.For the Browns, two-time Pro Bowl cornerback Joe Haden (concussion, finger) is out, as is tight end Rob Housler (hamstring). Also sitting out Friday’s practice in Cleveland was starting safety Tashaun Gipson (ankle), who is listed as doubtful.
Questionable after going through limited Friday workouts are defensive tackle Danny Shelton (knee), defensive lineman John Hughes III (knee), wide receiver Marlon Moore (hamstring), linebacker Tank Carder (shoulder) and linebacker Craig Robertson (ankle).
Tight end Gary Barnidge (ankle), linebacker Nate Orchard (groin) and quarterback Johnny Manziel (right elbow) are probable after full Friday workouts.
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a must read/listen.…(On the pros and cons of playing press coverage)
“There is, but one of the things too is, I’m giving too many tips away right now, but you see how deep we play our safeties? Deeper than anybody in the National Football League. That’s (S) Rodney’s (McLeod) job and that’s (S) TJ’s (McDonald), whoever it is depending upon on our press alignments. For an awful long time, even when I was a secondary coach back in the early 90’s, I asked those guys to do some stupid things. But I don’t anymore in the respect of, when you press and when you’re very physical with press, you’ve got to have an angel back there in the secondary. You’ve got to have an angel back there. We call it the angel. The angel player has got to be out there to help you out. And Rodney does a phenomenal job of that. He took one poor angle in the last ball game, but you know what, he’s so fun to coach. He just took a poor angle on that one play. It wasn’t that he was not there. The game is about angles. Especially when you play against arguably some of the top guys in the league, there’s no really bad guys in the league anymore. But, he does a great job of that. He and our guys that press for him are confident that he’s there to save them, the angel is going to save them.”October 24, 2015 at 5:54 am in reply to: catch percentage, drops, and other bad things from the dark side #32822wvParticipantMaybe draft a WR high next year?
Maybe sign a solid Vet WR ?w
vwvParticipantWell Brown doesn’t think its a big deal, apparently.
I kinda think its nice that he’s learning both positions.
I just dont see it as a bad thing.w
vwvParticipantI think it is all about value. In the end the Rams/Demoff are going to spend to the cap. They will spend where they think they get the best value.
I think he’ll want top-ten money. Maybe not top-five.
Dunno if they’ll be able to keep him. But they
got gaines coming back.w
vwvParticipantI’d start with all the first born males, unless their house was marked with the blood of a rams coach…
Then I’d kill God. But then the game would end because I was dead.
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Can God,
kill God?w
vwvParticipantThis is the question that precedes genocide.
No, absolutely not.
You could pick any scenario, but oppositional thinking is innate. And some of the things people want to control for are biological and can’t be controlled. Raise people on communes and we’ll still get econo-fascists. Raise people in hyper straight fundamentalist backgrounds and we’ll still get gay and transgender people.
Eliminate people? It’s an abhorrent question.
If the question is ultimately how to improve the planet or our species, there are bunches of ways to approach that other than genocide.
I dunno Mack. I dunno. Maybe Biosphere-cide is worse than genocide.
And the trajectory of things sure looks bad to me.w
vOctober 22, 2015 at 7:54 am in reply to: Justice Cunningham hopes to offer help for Rams at tight end #32723wvParticipant<span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>I am not sure everyone gets what Holt said. He said that if you run the route 10 times in a certain way in practice. Then you should run it that way in a game. He didn’t say it was wrong to stop as much as Cook did something that Foles did not expect.</span>
<span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>At 7 million per year, the Rams have better ways to spend their money. imo</span>
Well, i think we all know what he is as a player at this point.
He stretches the field with his speed, defenses have to account for him.
Maybe it opens things up a bit for Tavon and Gurley.
But the guy just dont have good hands.One would ‘hope’ they can upgrade next year.
Maybe the Rams spend the Bradford pick on a TE ?
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vwvParticipantWell if he keeps playing this way, he’ll
be a top-ten CB by the end of the year.JJ has been playing as good as anyone
on that D.w
vOctober 21, 2015 at 8:24 pm in reply to: as we prepare for the post-bye era: reporters preview the BROWNS game #32709wvParticipantwvParticipantEnh. I would put Havenstein’s fumble recovery
at the top of the list. And then I’d have
some of the defensive hits in there. I can
think of a couple of TJ’s hits that were awesome.w
vwvParticipantEverything hinges on the OLine.
Will they come-together,
in time.Time is runnin out.
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“They’re (O-line) way ahead of where I thought they’d be in the run game,” coach Jeff Fisher said before the team’s long bye weekend. “I think we have some work to do in the pass game, just in subtle techniques.“It’s not a matter of having mental errors and things like that. They know what to do. The group has to work together.”
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“The guys are doing great, they’re learning,” Reynolds said. “You know it takes a while to get used to who you’re playing next to, and that’s when you start seeing something special happening. You see little glimpses of it right now.”
“Obviously, I feel like I’ve grown a lot,” said Brown, a third-round pick out of Louisville. “But just looking back at the game we played against the Packers, watching that film let me know there’s still a lot more out there for me to learn. And that’s not necessarily a bad thing. I think it’s a good thing.”
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/growing-pains-continue-for-young-o-line/article_b48dbd47-ada9-594c-a288-d7fff6c22cf4.htmlwvParticipantThe Rams will roast the Browns, like sad pork-rinds
in a refinery fire. The Rams will bake the Browns
like must musty books in an easy-bake oven.
Or somethin like that.Rams 24
Browns 23Rams defense scores 21 unanswered points in the first quarter,
and then gives up 23 unanswered points in the fourth quarter.Rams offense wins the day with a 12 play, 32-yard drive
for a Field Goal to win it.And thus, the Ram Juggernaut is born…
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vwvParticipant“My team is performing like Ruxin’s sperm,
failing all over the place.”Do i wanna know who or what “ruxin” is?
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vwvParticipantI dont even wanna think about the state of the message-boards,
if the Rams/Fisher lose at home,
after a bye, to the Browns.w
vI think there’s a good chance they will do just that.
If they do, I think a reasonable response would simply be to say, “Yeah. Saw that one coming.”
It’s a very simple situation. If the Rams are serious about being competitive, they’ll make a statement in this game. They have the talent for that.
If they don’t … we’ll know that the Fisher Pattern is still in effect. Fail. Tease. Fail. Repeat.
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Well, i cant see them making the playoffs if they start 2-4.
So, its essentially, basically, probably a ‘must win’
with regard to the playoffs this year.w
vwvParticipantMy impression of the Browns was that they aren’t good but they are scrappy. They won’t come into the ED ready to roll over. The Rams can’t afford to sleep walk through this game.
I dont even wanna think about the state of the message-boards,
if the Rams/Fisher lose at home,
after a bye, to the Browns.w
vwvParticipantI dont really care if they trade him this year,
but i damn sure dont want him back ‘next’ year.“..they also could part ways with him after the year with a cap savings of nearly $5.7 million…”
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vwvParticipantLooks like the NFC West has crashed.
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vwvParticipantdenver’s offense might be worse than the rams.
Johnny Football is drinking again,
Cleveland loses a gut-wrencher in OTin Cleveland, and Rams had a Bye and play at home.
Now dammit, good teams are supposed
to win games like this.Right?
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vwvParticipantwvParticipant. I mean, Jake had a history
of injuries. Some posters thot he was put together with duck-tape
before the Rams signed him.He had 2 separate arm surgeries. So what he had was a history of 2 separate arm surgeries. The “put together with duct tape” thing to me was just not credible. The issue was whether he could still play with the arms. And, he could. Not like his old self, but he could.
To me there is no other side to the story. He had 2 arm surgeries and could still play. None of that predicts, foreshadows, or pre-determines 2 injuries to the same knee. That’s just plain bad luck.
People say sometimes, if a guy has had a couple of injuries, he’s set up for more. But see the thing is, they say that as if it were true, and never prove it. They just act like the assumption is real. Well, I say, prove it. What percentage of players who are still within the 4-7 year “prime years” window have one surgery and are therefore doomed to others? Percentages would mean something to me. Cracker barrel armchair wisdom? Not so much.
Well, i know thats how you view it.
Myself, I dunno. Looking back there were people
who thought he had regressed and was not the same
Jake Long who’d been in the pro-bowls.So, there’s different views on whether
it counts as a bad signing or an unlucky signing.w
vwvParticipantBrowns driving — three mins left. Good game.
…two minutes left — Browns on Denver’s 14 yard line.
Cleveland has a tough team. McCown is capable.
I like it. The Rams will have their hands full.
Lets see if they are up to it.
Cleveland will kick their ass
if they play poorlyw
vwvParticipantthe tricky part is the part you called “unlucky”.
There’s people that would call those players
“bad signings”.Yeah I have had long, long disputes over the years with guys who just do not understand the effect of injuries.
When Wells and Long were playing okay in 2013, the Rams OL was ranked 13th by PFF.
It’s similar to people blaming all of 2007 on Bulger when that year the OL lost 10 guys to injury, including 4 for the season. There were people who could never get their heads around the fact that the OL injuries made a difference.
The issue with Long in 2013 was whether he had recovered enough from 2 arm injuries to play effectively. Well, he played fine that year…not like his old pro-bowl self, but effectively in a play action offense. The 2 arms did not foreshadow 2 knees. Anyone who thinks so, IMO, is just being superstitious.
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I can see several different sides of it. I mean, Jake had a history
of injuries. Some posters thot he was put together with duck-tape
before the Rams signed him. So, i can see giving Snisher
a failing grade on the Jake Long signing.Personally, i liked the signing at the time.
I thought he was worth the risk, etc.Etc and so forth.
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vwvParticipantcleveland pick six, to go up on denver — Peyton comes right back
with a 75 yard bomb — Den 23 Cleve 20. Late in 4thwvParticipantWell how do you guys view Snisher’s free-agent signings
so far?Cortland Finnegan, J. Cook, Jake Long, K Britt,
William Hayes…who else?w
vTrades AND FAs:
Good: Hayes, BarronOkay to Good-ish: Langford, Fairley, Ayers, Chris Williams, Barksdale, Richardson, Turner, Britt, Clemens, Dunbar, Reynolds
Unlucky: Long, Wells, Finnegan
Bad: Cook, joseph.
I would say it was okay to good-ish if it weren’t for the bad luck with guys getting injured.
Cook was a bad signing though, no 2 ways about it.
Mostly, however, what they did was sign inexpensive role players and rotation types. Look at the “okay to good-ish” list.
The UDFA list is far better though.
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Interesting way to look at it. Obviously
the tricky part is the part you called “unlucky”.There’s people that would call those players
“bad signings”.I dunno, myself.
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vwvParticipantWell, I just thought I’d put in my 45 cents. (Hey–inflation!)
I don’t know if folks have an accurate sense of my view of Fisher. I don’t consider myself a basher. I am not committed to removing him. Some folks in this thread do well to say, yeah, but who would replace him? And I can easily imagine worse.
I think his greatest contribution is to stabilize an organization. I dunno know much about what he did in TENN, but I understand stability under transitional duress is a big part of his success there. With us, he has established team stability under a lot of duress. That’s important.
My biggest problem with him is different from what seems to come through to folks reading my stuff. It is not about W/L record. Never has been.
It’s about his failure to lead the Rams as a team to play with discipline and consistency at or near their ceiling. They just do not compete at a high level in relationship to their talent and capability.
I think that’s damning to a guy making a claim to be a quality HC.
And, one more time, albeit briefly, I recall last year. When Sam went down, a winning W/L record probably went out the window. But even WITHOUT SAM, our defense, which was talented and not injury-riddled, was a roller coaster ride of performance. And we repeatedly lost games from winning positions.
That’s not something that can be blamed on injuries to QB or OL. It’s on the team’s discipline and performance. And in football, a coach’s game, that falls on the HC.
Looking ahead … he needs to establish his ability to lead a team to play at or near its ceiling on a consistent basis. He has not done it yet and hasn’t done it this year.
WV’s original post is right. This year is his test. He needs to raise the PERFORMANCE level of the team on a consistent basis. There is reason to hope, but I’m pretty doubtful that we won’t continue to see the same old mistake-riddled, undisciplined gyrations of performance that we’ve seen this year and the 3 foregoing years.
If that continues, he needs to go. And, again, I’m not putting a W/L record on it. Hell, we may get more injuries. But I want to see a team that competes every damn week, even if we lose. (And BTW, we competed against GB in a sense, but not really. We shot ourselves in every limb we had.) It Fisher cannot get this team to play its heart out every week, he doesn’t deserve to be a HC.
Of course, Zooey is right. Doesn’t matter what happens–Stan won’t fire him. When I say “He would need to go,” I am under no delusion that it would actually happen.
Assuming for a moment you are right about them being “undisciplined”,
do you think Fisher trades “fierceness” for discipline ?w
vwvParticipantCleveland hanging in there with the undefeated Broncos:
Denver 16
Cleve 14
with nine mins left.w
vOctober 18, 2015 at 3:23 pm in reply to: Minnesota Vikings: Should the team move on from Cordarrelle Patterson? #32554wvParticipantIt would double the “blame the OC”
threads, I betI see you post at the herd now and then. One fair warning: don’t talk like that there. They are strong there with the “blame the OC” force. Deviations are met with baffled questionings of your sanity and common sense (I exaggerate for fun).
I will always tread lightly over there
on the Big-Board. No Bozo-talk, no non-football stuff,
no Tapirs, no dissertations on Toasters…This little board is always home.
I can say what i want over here — I mean
if wanna scold Ag for being a low-down
Viking fan, i can do it.w
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