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wvParticipantRams get too much respect.
Damn media.
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wvParticipantI watched the condensed version of the game on the InterNetz.
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vWhy didn’t you watch live? Was it up against the Seahawks’ game, or something? I get that you have bad priorities, but maybe you should just post on the Seahawks’ board.
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I just realized the Rams have won THREE games in a roww.
Two on the road.Should they extend Fisher,
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wvParticipantI watched the condensed version of the game on the InterNetz.
There were so many great athletic plays in that game its hard to know where to start.
I’d like to point out one that stayed in my mind — The Barron INT. Did you see how
he just snatched that ball as if he were Charlie Joiner going over the middle ?Ogletree has good hands. He can also snag bullets out of the air. Tru Johnson has good hands.
With a savage, raging Front Four pressuring QBs, it is wise of the Rams to have a back-seven
with good hands. They will get their opportunities almost every game.I remember a time when balls just clanked off of Rams defenders.
Now, if only the defense could teach the offense how to catch the ball.
Also — the Rams seemed faster to me, than last year. Maybe they are playing faster cause they know the schemes better, and maybe some of the players they jettisoned were a step slower than the ones they have now. I dunno.
Run D — I was certainly not impressed with the way the Cards were consistently gashing the Rams with the run. A lot of Cards fans commented on the fact that maybe Arians should have run it more. The D wasn’t ‘terrible’ like it has been at times in the last few years, but it wasn’t good, either. Then again, maybe its just a conscious choice of GW to give up yards in order to prevent Carson from hitting big pass-plays. I dunno. The D still looks good in the Redzone which is critical.
Keenum — I liked the zip he had on the ball over the middle to Britt. I think it was Britt. Keenum just fired it and placed the ball perfectly. The 65 yarder to Quick was well-placed too. (That of course was not, a ‘deep pass’ — just an intermediate one that the Cards misplayed). I dunno what Keenum’s ceiling is, but its fun watching the ugly-duckling-QB, win ugly games, in “Glamor Land”. It makes me smile, for some reason.
Its like Joe Kapp has come to Hollywood.Gurley and the Oline — I got nuthin. I dunno why they get stuffed almost all the time.
Its the big question so far this year, I guess. Why cant the Rams run?Injuries — Four games and no major injuries? What, pray-tell, do the football-Godz have in mind? An earthquake maybe?
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wvParticipantI think Tru Jo’s int was inconclusive and shouldn’t have been overturned….
I’ve said before, and I will say it again: I like the college rule better that requires just one foot in bounds.
I think that’s the only thing I like about college football (besides Notre Dame losing; I am happy when they suffer).
But I don’t like the two-feet down rule. I say, you’re in if you touch the field in bounds at all. And if I was commissioner for a day, by golly, I would change that rule and walk out satisfied.
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Ok well if you are going to turn this thread into a “What I’d Like To See” thread,
then I’d like to see the players use Jet-packs.w
vOctober 3, 2016 at 5:04 pm in reply to: WAPO: It's hard to take the Rams seriously when their offense stinks… #54419
wvParticipantwas the bucs offense this bad though?
in terms of total yardage we’re getting out gained every week. that’s not going to cut it i don’t think. maybe i’m wrong.
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Well depends what you mean by ‘cut it’. Right now, they look exactly like a wild-card-level
team to me. The lowest-level-wildcard teams are usually around 9-7 or 10-6.
Those kinds of teams always have significant flaws.The thing about the Rams though, is, they seem to be improving each week. Getting more in sync.
I dunno what their ceiling is this year, and I dunno how good the offense can be this year, but i do know they can play with any of the other 10-6 type teams
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wvParticipantInteresting comparisons. Jeff Garcia, Pat Haden, Austin Davis.
He’s definitely a competitor. He did a lot of good things yesterday
without a running game.I thought his best throw was that beauty that Tavon dropped.
And yes, i’d call that a drop. Quick dropped a really nice pass too.I dont think we’ve seen the best of Keenum yet. This offense is still
a bit clunk-i-ty. Not quite in sync yet.The Bills are coming to town. Who the hell are the Buffalo Bills?
I dont even know who their best players are.w
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wvParticipantI didn’t say ‘my’ house. I clearly said ‘the’ house, which obviously refers to zn’s house. I thought that was self-evident.
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Does that include the garden? Cause I’m not a hundred-percent-sure we should
be betting another man’s house AND garden.w
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wvParticipantTwo road wins in a row. When’s the last time ‘that’ happened?
Outstanding win. They are learning. Slowly. Its still quite Ugly
on offense, but its fun watching this team emerge.Bills
at Detroit
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wvParticipantI like to get real thin asparagus and cook it
and add it to spaghetti, and then i add some
finely chopped kale.And then while its still hot, i mix injust a little of Paul Newman’s salsa.
I like the color, which is green and red,
and i like the feel of twirling asparagus with the pasta.w
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wvParticipant“Later I would understand that modern industrial communities are obsessed with the importance of ‘going somewhere’ and ‘doing something with your life’. The implication is an idea I have come to hate, that staying local and doing physical work doesn’t count for much.”
― James Rebanks, The Shepherd’s Life: Modern Dispatches from an Ancient Landscape“Working up these mountains is as good as it gets, at least as long as you are not freezing or sodden (though even then you feel alive in ways that I don’t in modern life behind glass). There is a thrill in the timelessness up there. I have always liked the feeling of carrying on something bigger than me, something that stretches back through other hands and other eyes into the depths of time. To work there is a humbling thing, the opposite of conquering a mountain, if you like; it liberates you from any illusion of self-importance.”
― James Rebanks, The Shepherd’s Life: A People’s History of the Lake District
wvParticipantI think Jack was having woman problems when he wrote “Love Interruption”. It was his first single on his first solo album in 2012. By 2013, he was divorced from his second wife.
When I read the Hope quote, “Blunderbuss” was playing in the background, and “Love Interruption” struck me as an anti-resonant thought tunnel.
So I don’t know what the fuck it MEANS…
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Let’s beat it with a hose,
and find out what it means.w
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INTRODUCTION TO POETRY
by Billy CollinsI ask them to take a poem
and hold it up to the light
like a color slideor press an ear against its hive.
I say drop a mouse into a poem
and watch him probe his way out,or walk inside the poem’s room
and feel the walls for a light switch.
I want them to waterski
across the surface of a poem
waving at the author’s name on the shore.But all they want to do
is tie the poem to a chair with rope
and torture a confession out of it.They begin beating it with a hose
to find out what it really means.
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wvParticipantYeah I listened to it too while I was at work. It was s good show.
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NPR often has some good science/technology stuff.The ‘news‘ of course is best avoided.
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vNational Plutocrat Radio
Corporate One-Percenters dominate NPR affiliates’ boards
By Aldo Guerrero
Typical public radio board members:Typical public radio board members: 66 percent of NPR affiliate board members have the same gender, 72 percent have the same ethnicity and 75 percent represent the same social class as these gentlemen.
For a public radio service, NPR is notoriously known for its lack of diversity within its staff, audience and guests invited onto their shows—problems that NPR has itself acknowledged (6/30/14).
A new FAIR study finds that NPR’s diversity problem also extends into the board of trustees of its most popular member stations: Two out of three board members are male, and nearly three out of four are non-Latino whites. Fully three out of every four trustees of the top NPR affiliates belong to the corporate elite.
FAIR studied the governing boards of the eight most-listened-to NPR affiliate stations, based on Arbitron ratings (Cision, 2/13/13). The stations and their broadcast regions are KQED (San Francisco), WAMU (Washington, DC), WNYC (New York City), KPCC (Los Angeles), WHYY (Philadelphia), WBUR (Boston), WABE (Atlanta) and WBEZ (Chicago). (Two top-rated public stations, KUSC in Los Angeles and WETA in Arlington, Va., were not included in the study because they mainly play classical music rather than having a news/talk format.) Board members were coded by occupation, ethnicity and gender.
Corporate Affiliation on NPR Affiliate BoardsOut of the 259 total board members, 194—or 75 percent—have corporate backgrounds. Many of these board members are executives in banks, investment firms, consulting companies and corporate law firms. Some of the elite corporations include Verizon, Bank of America and Citigroup.
Of the board members with corporate occupations, 66 are executives in the financial industry. Another 22 are corporate lawyers. Eleven other members appear to be board members by virtue of their family’s corporate-derived wealth, usually with a primary affiliation as an officer of a family-run charitable foundation.
Of trustees with non-corporate occupations, academics are the most common, with 18 individuals—just 7 percent of total board members. Thirteen were coded as leaders of nonprofit organizations not affiliated with family-run foundations….see link
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wvParticipantholy shit. took me a few moments to figure out what that flat bumpy thing was
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wvParticipantInteresting topic. I did not realize the TV ratings were down.
I also, did not expect to read this sentence today:
” The younger generation no longer congregates around a large box; they carry small ones everywhere they go, constantly staring at them like zombies peering in to a sardine can full of brains.”
Personally, i don’t watch the NFL because i can’t afford TV. Its just about money.
I mean, for me to pay
for a TV cable or satellite hookup would cost somewhere between 60 and 100 bucks a month.
And watchin TV is just not worth that to me. Now if i could pay for the individual shows/games i want, then I might pay for TV. But i dont want to pay that big a monthly fee for a vast-wasteland of tv-garbage.w
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wvParticipant….what does that MEAN ??
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wvParticipantYeah, you have a gazillion of those individual stories about
nice cops, or nice rich people, or nice politicians or nice lawyers, or nice CEOs,
but none of those ‘acts of nice-ness’ change the fact that
racism is systemic and institutionalized….etc and so forth.To use an extreme example, i have no doubt that some of Hitler’s Nazi
buddies back in the 30’s and 40’s did all kinds of ‘nice things’ for
people in Germany. Probably all kinds of wonderful individual acts of kindness
by various Nazis. But them individual stories didnt change
the big picture, right? Yes? No? Maybe?w
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wvParticipantBut the ‘way’ the few are doing it is interesting. The many have had their minds colonized.
That’s always been true.
Peasants didn’t accept the rule of lords solely through force of arms. They bought into the system.
That’s why we invented the theory of ideology.
Why do any majorities accept the rule of minorities? Which is how most of history works.
Because the thinking of the majority basically accepts the system they’re in. Ie…ideology.
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Agreed. But the ‘methodology’ if thats the right word, interests me. The newer technologies of ideology interest me. The new ways the few can ‘brainwash’ the many. I’m interested in those ‘ways’. I’m interested in ‘how it happens’.
But then you know all that…blah blah blah.w
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wvParticipantTo me, this isn’t rocket science. Pretty much from the beginning of organized societies, the few have ruled the many. It’s still that way, obviously. Capitalism was supposed to “liberate” the masses from the yoke of tyrannical kings and queens and aristocracy in general — and most conservatives believe it has. But it’s really just created a legal set of fictions to control the masses by other means — their bodies, their time at work, at home as consumers, and so on. It just created a new kind of ruling class.
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Agreed.This new form of empire-oppression that modern corporate-capitalism imposed
is in some ways the same ole sorry ass repression. Ya know. The few oppressing the many.But the ‘way’ the few are doing it is interesting. The many have had their minds colonized.
Maybe thats how its always been done, i dunno. Maybe the many used to ‘believe’ in the divine right of the few to rule. And now they believe in the divine right of the ‘free market’. I dunno.
But i do know that the entire biosphere was not being poisoned back in the olden days. Etc.
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vSeptember 30, 2016 at 9:30 am in reply to: Greg Cosell comments on Carson Wentz, Aaron Rodgers, and Sam Bradford. #54143
wvParticipantCosell praised “steve spagnuolo and that Giant Defense”.
He also implied that the eagles offensive coaches were better than
the Rams offensive coaches.He also said Bradford had never been in a Norv Turner offense before,
and was playing really well. (But Norv’s offense is pretty similar
to one of the offenses Sam played in for the Rams…yes?)w
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wvParticipantWell, there’s two memes that the middle and upper class believe about the poor that are so ridiculous it’s impossible to fathom. Yet they believe them anyway…
1. The poor have it easy.
2. The poor are poor by choice (ie they don’t want to work).
I see those ideas repeated endlessly in conversations among friends and coworkers and on social media.
As long as that sort of attitude exists among the ‘haves’ the politicians trying to win their votes won’t see a percentage in talking about the ‘havenots’.
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There might be a third meme — something along the lines of“Well, golly shucks, there’s always been poor people, and as tragic as it is,
there’s nothing we can do about it. Its the natural order of things. Best we can do
is build some homeless shelters and contribute to charities”Ya know. Anything but examining the ‘system’.
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wvParticipantSanders rarely talked about the poor. And he’s well to the left of the Dems on most issues. Which tells me that being “radical” these days is equivalent to being a mainstream “liberal” forty years ago.
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Well, i guess there’s just no votes to be had in talking about the poor. Ya know. Itz all about the ‘middle class’.If only the poor would organize….ya know. Ah well.
Oh wait. FIRST the poor would have to be cleansed of their corporate-programming, nationalist-programming, racist-programming, sexist-programming — and THEN they need to organize.
Such a simple little task 🙂
…beam me up…
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wvParticipantDollar and sixty-five cents. Not bad.
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wvParticipantWell a coach can be wrong or misread something without being an idiot.
That said….
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Well, apparently SOMEONE doesn’t know what being a football fan is all about.
Maybe someone needs to go back and read the football-fan-101-Manual.
wvParticipantI am proud to say I did not watch the shit show. Calling it a debate is ridiculous. It is a corporate production. Trump is a teapublican Clinton a pro-choice neocon endorsed by the likes of GHWBush. The only hope for intelligent debate was escorted off campus by armed corporate guard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po4NAoHp1bw
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…believe it or not, I ‘was’ actually interested in what they would wear. I wondered what color tie, corporate-donald would wear and what colors Hillary would wear, etc.
I’m always mildly interested in what the powers-that-be think about colors and textures and styles and how they influence people’s perceptions, etc. I’m interested in all aspects of the evil-arts –ie, the art of ‘selling/persuading’.
How Hillary Clinton Softened Her Style to Win Votes
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…Ms. Clinton is rumored to have hired makeup artist Barbara Lacy from HBO’s VEEP to head her beauty team. And reportedly, she is still a client of her longtime hair stylist Isabelle Goetz. (Neither returned requests for comment.) Ms. Goetz’s work has been particularly apparent of late. Ms. Clinton’s harsh, salt and pepper streaks of the winter have been replaced by warm, buttery caramels and golden highlights, a common hairdresser’s tactic for “softening up” a woman’s appearance. Ashy, white and mousey tones are considered to be harsh and aging. But arguably the most important addition to Ms. Clinton’s team is Kristina Schake. A former aide to Michelle Obama, Ms. Schake uses style, body language and other PR tactics to shape Ms. Clinton’s public persona and make her more relatable.Ms. Clinton’s recent appearances indicate that these tactics of business-like, streamlined outfits and softer beauty are working. According to professor Andy J. Yap, of INSEAD’s Organisational Behavior Area, Ms. Clinton’s body language at the June rally revealed a more relatable side. “She smiled a lot more with her eyes. Psychologists call this a Duchenne smile (or a genuine smile), which involves smiling with both the zygomatic major muscle (mouth) and the orbicularis oculi muscle (crow’s feet around the eyes),” he told the Observer. “This, coupled with her usual confident demeanor—both from her dressing and posture—makes her appear warm and competent.”
wvParticipantTo me this comes down to whether you think Fisher and his offensive coaches are Idiots,
or not. I mean, Fisher and his coaches see the kid every day, And they see Keenum every day.Its just not an issue to me, yet.
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wvParticipantI would have to watch the entire game again. My impression is that the SF defense is far better than people wanted to believe.
And it is possible that the 9ers defense is just much better than many assumed.
So much for that theory.

Right now (ie. a couple of days after the Tampa game), this looks like it was just a bad game. For reasons I don’t think anyone has quite got a handle on yet.
I have some theories and speculations. But they’re just that, theories.
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My own gut instinct is that it was “just a bad game”. I dont really even think about that game when I’m trying to figure out who this team is or who its becoming. I kinda throw that game out. I’m not sure why i think that. Just a gut feeling. I’m pretty sure if the two teams played again tomorrow, I’d pick the Rams to win a close game.SF has played well against the Rams lately. They either match up good or they know stuff from film. But i still think the Rams will win the rematch.
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wvParticipantI think its a lot of little things.
OLine out of sync.
Hav just coming back from injury
youth on the line.
playing against good front Dlines
Keenum being the 32 best ‘starting’QB in the NFL
Rams WRs probly being in the bottom-tier of the NFL
Other teams ‘figuring something out’ about the Rams offensive scheme.Stuff like that. Not just one thing.
The reason I’m optimistic some of that stuff will
improve with time and game experience and adjustments.With Keenum at QB though, and without even having one no.1 WR (some teams have more than one), the Rams can only be ‘so’ good. Wildcard level is the ceiling, I’d think.
But add Goff to the mix (when he’s ready) and find a no.1 WR next year,
and then maybe the get to the next level. No matter who the coach is 🙂In the meantime Snisher plays with the cards they dealt themselves. And they try to win ugly for a while. Play efficient mistake-free offense, and turn loose GW’s dogs of War on D. And HOPE that legatron has his shit together. Legatron will be the difference in three games this year. One way or another.
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wvParticipantI’ve got that in my Netflix queue. Wanted to see it when it came out, but missed the chance.
Did you like it?
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Well, its the quirkiest movie I’ve seen all year. Its one of them ‘artsy avant-garde’ type things.
The director talked about wanting to make a movie about various aspects of human ‘love’ and all the societal pressures that interact with and on ‘love.’
Thing is, i just didn’t see much in the film that was particularly ‘insightful.’ Seemed like it had a lot of cliches to me. I kinda lost interest in it, about two-thirds of the way into it.
It was better than watching Corporate-Clinton, Corporate-Trump and the Corporate-Media, though.
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wvParticipantWell, after three games, the Rams have given up:
0 – 28
9-3
37-32What does it mean? What ‘is’ this team? I dunno yet.
Quinn is back, and that is a HUGE positive. Makes a world of difference to know you can count on him for a couple of game-changing plays per game.
The OLine is healthy — that is huge. I would think the more that young group plays together the better they will get. I think thats a reasonable expectation.
Gaines might help a lot (or hurt a lot, we dunno yet)
What i want to see is mistake-free football on offense,
and i wanna see a big pass rush on Carson Palmer.
I think the pass-rush and run-defense will have to win this one.I’m gonna pretend like they’ve turned the corner
and say:Rams – 24
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